Ms. B.H. sent me this important article, and I want to pass it along for its sheer implications, and also because there is still a certain segment of the population that not only thinks remote mind manipulation technologies are the stuff of science fiction, but because even among those inclined to view it as a remote possibility, they do not realize how far along it has come since it was first a smile on Sydney Gottlieb's, Allen Dulles', Richard Helms', and Jose Delgado's faces. There have, in fact, not only been persistent rumors on the internet, and a few books here and there, to suggest that some people have been victimized by technologies actually beaming "voices" directly into a person's brain, which only that person can hear - call it the "Voice of God" or more preferably, "Voice of the Devil" technology(usually the latter, since I know of no instance where victims of this technology claim to have heard anything sublime, uplifting, comforting, or loving from the voices they hear). There have been similar claims of people alleging that they "saw" things that only they could see, and indeed, in a few cases, "talked" with them, whereas no one else could see or converse. The problem here, of course, is that there are a number of patents that have been taken out that claim precisely the ability to project voices, images, and, as we've seen on this website in a few blogs over the past year or so, even the ability to read a person's thoughts and emotions remotely, and claimed capabilities of the technology to "translate" those readings into words, thus enabling the technology's handlers to "converse" with the victim.

What I've found intriguing, however, is that the public stories, in "mainstream"(whatever that means) sources, are now openly talking about the same capabilities, though usually in connection to the implied idea that these technologies and techniques are in their infancy, and that all we can do right now is play with a few lab rats and mice:

Scientists use a light beam to implant an artificial image into a mouse’s mind

I hope you read the few short paragraphs of this article carefully, and I hope you found these as chilling as I did:

The researchers were able to control and observe the brain of a living mouse using optogenetic tools – a technique which involves the use of light to control cells in living tissue.

They injected the mouse with a virus containing light-sensitive proteins engineered to reach specific brain cells.

Once inside a cell, the proteins allowed researchers to remotely activate the neuron with light, as if switching on a TV.

During the experiment, the mouse was allowed to freely run on a treadmill while its head was held still under a microscope.

The researchers were able to control and observe the brain of a living mouse using optogenetics.

Before optogenetics, scientists had to open the skull and implant electrodes into living tissue to stimulate neurons with electricity and measure their response.


Optogenetics allowed researchers to get inside the brain non-invasively and control it far more precisely.  (Emphasis added)

I hope you caught the two basic ingredients of the technique:

  1. Injection (of a substance designed to reach certain areas of the brain); and,
  2. Remote stimulation of that region via "light", which I strongly suspect is code in the article for electromagnetic radiation in the non-visible range of the spectrum, specifically, in the infrared-microwave end of the spectrum.

All of this is wonderfully "non-invasive" and, of course, is being presented in the usual "this-technique-may-have-health-benefits" way, but, oh, incidentally, it allows the brain(of mice anyway) to be controlled "far more precisely."

Now, scale all this up to human scale, couple it with a (presidentially sponsored!) brain mapping program, forced injections to combat the latest hyped-up virus scare (think swine flu, bird flu, Sars... the whole parade of virus scares we're hit with every year), and those patents, in some cases decades old, of methods of projecting voices, images, and now, of reading an individual's thoughts remotely, and you have a mind manipulation technology of profound implications. Go a step further: imagine coupling such "voice and image projection" technologies to the soft techniques of manipulation, such as hypnotism and neural linguistic programming, and one has an extraordinarily powerful tool box of social manipulation and engineering.

What I suspect all this indicates, and especially the spate of articles over recent years seeming to confirm the mind-control researchers of decades ago, is that these technologies are much farther along than these types of articles would indicate.

See you on the flip side....

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Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. Eve Leung on August 25, 2016 at 9:59 am

    I come across an interview between George Knapp and Robert Guffey about Chameleo” book, the technology already said it all, it can totally alter people’s mind, see or hear things that is unreal, for example, they can make people to see outside of their window instead of normal street view, they can change it to a alien planet view, multiple moons in the sky etc, and it not only effect on one person, it can effect a area of people.

  2. goshawks on August 24, 2016 at 4:08 am

    I wanted to combine some ancient and modern knowledge, and see what falls out:

    1) In the article, there are two components: A virus containing light-sensitive proteins engineered to reach specific brain cells, and remotely activating the neurons with light (or em waves).

    2) In ancient lore, there is mention of the ‘third eye’. This is claimed to be the site (above and between the eyebrows) where psychic powers can be activated and the gateway to higher-consciousness states resides.

    3) Modern anatomy has shown that there is indeed a light-sensitive ‘organ’ located roughly where the ancient lore indicated. It is the pineal gland, located deep in the brain. “The pineal gland secretes a single hormone — melatonin. This simple hormone is special because its secretion is dictated by light.”

    endocrineweb dot com/endocrinology/overview-pineal-gland

    (Also interesting: “The pineal gland often appears calcified in x-rays, which is usually due to fluoride, calcium, and phosphorus deposits that build up with age.” Note the first element, for you conspiracy types…)

    Throwing all the above together, what if you could develop a virus containing light-sensitive proteins engineered to reach PINEAL cells, and remotely activate – or even block activation – of those neurons with light (or em waves)?


    • Roger on August 24, 2016 at 7:25 pm

      Perhaps this is linked to why young kids can see spirits but loose the ability as they grow older and the pineal gland becomes de-activated. Is there a conspiracy to cut us off from God consciousness?

  3. goshawks on August 24, 2016 at 3:46 am

    elaine o. (and all), my comment is finally out of moderation. Enjoy!

  4. zendogbreath on August 23, 2016 at 11:39 pm

    yep, there’s nothing here about what the mouse saw. that’s always the prime issue and the most carefully avoided issue in all such misapplied science. samazdat with immortality toys of ray kurzweil’s.

    it’s clear they are playing with the perceptions of others. and playing with the controls of others. as far as perceiving accurately what others are perceiving? foggedabodit.

    it’s worth noting that delgado and all long ago took over control of human subjects remotely. now what the human perceived, felt and thought about that is another story.

    • zendogbreath on August 23, 2016 at 11:42 pm

      makes me think more than twice about what comes around goes around.

      these folk aren’t just living in houses of mirrors. they were raised (or distorted) in them. and they seem to only be interested in building crazier houses of mirrors.

      might be a good time to calm down and be, huh?

    • MxFusion on August 24, 2016 at 10:36 am

      ZDB, i would also ask, why didn’t the article tell us what image the scientist were trying to implant in the mouse brain. Was it a piece of cheese, another mouse, a burning bush, a cat? And, even if they were successful in planting such an image, how would the mouse react. There would be no sensation of smell involved, and from my knowledge, that’s a prime sense mice use to navigate their environment. How about implanting the smell of a piece of cheese, or other scents, in a mouse brain? No talk of that at all.

      Okay, so what if they elicited some changes in some neurons by putting a virus in them that’s sensitive to light and shining a beam of light on them. Do anything to neurons and you’re going to get some changes. Proves nothing, if that’s all it was to the experiment. The mouse just kept running on the treadmill.

      I’ll be impressed when scientists can shoot an EM beam into a mouse brain and get the mouse to start dancing on its hind legs, then move around in a coherent manner, doing various behaviors at the will of the experimenter.

      I’m not familiar with the work of this Delgado. Any links to the particulars of his experiments controlling humans remotely?

      • zendogbreath on August 25, 2016 at 12:03 am

        mx. not sure what you’re asking here. kinda hard to have no awareness of delgado if you’re reading on this site.

        just the same:

        plenty more all over on this guy. not a very nice guy.

        • MxFusion on August 25, 2016 at 7:47 am

          ZDB, thanks for the link. I’ve heard about this Jose Delgado, but was not familiar with the specifics. I’ll check deeper into his work. After a cursory look, I have to agree with your assessment of him: “not a very nice guy.”

  5. MxFusion on August 23, 2016 at 9:41 pm

    I’m no neuroscientist, but after reading the article a few times I fail to see how they proved they implanted an image inside the mouse’s’ brain. Sure, the light beam did something to change the neurons in a certain location, but what did the mouse see, if the hapless critter saw anything artificial?

    The mouse’s skull had to have been open for them to get the light beam into the brain, so it’s not exactly non-invasive. The article says the mouse was running on a treadmill the whole time. So, if an artificial image of some sort(the nature of which is never mentioned) was seen by the mouse’s consciousness, it certainly didn’t cause any change of behavior.

    In my opinion, this experiment doesn’t demonstrate any kind of “mind control” of the mouse. I think, perhaps, we’re jumping to a lot of negative conclusions too fast here.

    • Roger on August 23, 2016 at 9:59 pm

      A lot of science experiments fail to pass intelligent scrutiny, especially many physics experiments. There are always alternatives to what may actually be going on but the academics always jump on whatever interpretation continues their funding. And by choosing certain interpretations they may temporarily enter a reality where that interpretation proves useful and legit. That is until someone comes up with a better interpretation that moves the reality potential in a new direction. It’s pure sorcery I tell you and science is really just another branch of the occultic arts.

      • Liontree on August 23, 2016 at 10:19 pm


    • goshawks on August 24, 2016 at 4:47 am

      MxFusion, I agree with the general conclusions in your comment. A slight ‘tweak’ in that the mouse’s skull may not have had to be opened. There are ‘gaps’ in the skull for the ears, ocular sockets, under the jawbone, maybe the base of the skull. If clever enough, those areas might be used with a pencil-beam of light. Not saying that’s what they did; just speculating…

      • MxFusion on August 24, 2016 at 10:18 am

        goshawks, the article should have had a photo of the setup between the mouse and the apparatus used, or at least a diagram of such. The whole description is vague.

        Also, it says the scientists were able to observe the particular neurons involved via some special microscope. A microscope can’t see through bone and/or tissue, so some kind of invasive opening had to used.

  6. iZeta on August 23, 2016 at 8:14 pm

    Yep couple it with vaccines, super-soldiers, mystic visions, automated mob riots and what a great world this will be.

    Wait until they start publishing articles regarding their time travel experiments, and how they can put visions into the brains of little children (non-invasive of course is their usual disclaimer).

    When humans on this planet wake up to the horror of this civilisation, it will be too late to do anything. By then the majority of sheeple will be well vaccinated to ensure nobody gets to have a say about anything.

  7. Robert Barricklow on August 23, 2016 at 7:20 pm

    Suppose mankind was engineered to be a slave.
    Suppose then that there exist all kinds of whistles & toys that simply have to be reengineered from the stand point that these slavish-tools are inherent within the alien-engineered DNA script – waiting[so-to-speak] to see the light.
    Ironic, that light, in the hands of man, is playing such a dark role.
    Of course, like father, like son?[in the biblical sense, GOD being light years ahead in technology].

  8. mercuriAl on August 23, 2016 at 4:21 pm

    Friedrich List … Friedrich List … Friedrich List …zzz …

  9. Guygrr on August 23, 2016 at 2:31 pm

    My question, does the presence of geopathic stress enhance the effects of this type of electronic mind control or is it a result of its use.

  10. Aridzonan_13 on August 23, 2016 at 11:59 am

    My belief is this is waaay more mature tech. Again, who knows how much off world tech is present in our world today?

  11. marcos toledo on August 23, 2016 at 11:28 am

    This has been the meme of fantasy and science fiction stories for centuries and millennia. X-Files, Fringe, Twilight Zone, Outer Limits series on television have dealt with this idea in various episodes. The ultimate wet dream that goes beyond Killer Kane amnesia helmets from the Buck Rogers serial.

  12. posotivechico on August 23, 2016 at 11:22 am

    So when it is illegal to refuse a vaccination and vaccination conversations are outlawed are combined with the knowledge that designer viruses can be included in the serum that could allow for remote brain stimulation, the stage is set for control beyond even HOS!

  13. WalkingDead on August 23, 2016 at 10:38 am

    Just another tool in the black ops toolbox. You get your “lone wolf” assassin along with “plausible deniability” and unaccountability. I’m sure this is also being used for the “gun control” agenda via the ramping up of mass murders and senseless attacks.
    Let’s not forget that just about all the “terrorist” plots prevented by the FBI are plots they initiated with unsuspecting and semi mentally incompetent individuals. After all, you have to justify that budget and police state mentality, somehow.

    • WalkingDead on August 23, 2016 at 10:43 am

      • Sandygirl on August 24, 2016 at 5:08 pm

        The Monroe Institute has been working since the early 70s to change brain wave patterns on people during meditation to help them have OBO’s. They use a different level tone in each ear which changes the wave.

        • goshawks on August 25, 2016 at 3:34 am

          Sandygirl, a blast from the past! I attended several week-long classes at TMI in the mid-80s. I can testify that hemisync works…

          By the way, they explained that the ‘secret’ to hemisync being able to help people into deep meditation states had to do with, ta da, brain-hemisphere synchronization:

          They would initially-broadcast two distinctly-different tones, one in each ear. Then, they would progressively move each tone toward the other in frequency.

          At some point, the brain would not be able to easily sort-out which tone was which. So, lots of ‘inquiries’ would occur across the corpus callosum (the thick bundle of nerve tissue connecting the left and right brain hemispheres). This would serve to ‘synchronize’ the two hemispheres. At that point, the person could drop into whatever level of meditation they wanted.

          (Other researchers have noted that experienced meditators – hooked up to brainwave-monitoring machines – moved their left and right brains into similar brainwave patterns before going into deep meditations.)

          Once the synchronization occurred via the tone-merging, TMI had embedded different tone patterns (developed experimentally) and verbal messages into the rest of the ‘tape’ (probably CDs by now). These differed, depending on what meditation-level the person wanted to reach or what ‘task’ the person wanted to accomplish.

          They worked. And, they ‘trained’ the brain to be able to get there again…

          • Sandygirl on August 25, 2016 at 4:20 pm

            Did you have an OBE, do you think its the same as the Akasha field, is it the same place as where remote viewers go to ride a wave or frequency to travel? Really wondering since I haven’t quite got there, yet.

          • goshawks on August 26, 2016 at 8:46 pm

            Sandygirl, there were multiple different experiences over the classes, some of which could be classified as OBEs. The only slightly-OBE that had corroborating ‘evidence’ concerned Robert Monroe himself…

            After some days in a TMI class, I would sometimes ‘see’ RM in a dual-flickering mode. One mode would be regular-him, and one would be a more copper-skin-colored, bald, angular-featured man. Both distinct, even in the flickering.

            In a group question-and-answer session with him, I described this occurrence. A nice French lady (there for classes with her husband) popped-out with that was exactly what she had been seeing. A second witness!

            RM spluttered and looked like he had been caught-out. He gave an explanation that it was just an Atlantean life bleeding-through. However, his body-language suggested something else…

            To answer the second part of your question, my best-guess right now is that WE are really non-local phenomena, squeezed-down to where we believe we are local (have bodies, etc.). In other words, we are really spread-out over the cosmos and dimensions, but have chosen – or been forced – to experience ourselves as a 3D organism. Possibly for soul growth, possibly as punishment, possibly as a ‘game’. Who knows?

            I believe various phenomenon from OBEs to NDEs to ESP (esp. telepathy) to deep meditational ‘events’ all reflect us breaking-through (in a manner of speaking) the imposed ‘veil’. In other words, we are breaking down the Matrix of ‘locality’, even if only for a moment. The level of our breaking-through determines the depth and profundity of the ‘happening’.

            (What was Actually There is filtered-down through our life-experiences by our brain, resulting in Christians having C-filtered events, Hindus having H-filtered events, etc.)

            To me, we are not so much learning new skills as we are unlearning blockages…

          • Sandygirl on August 27, 2016 at 6:34 pm

            Now that is very interesting, who you saw and then his reaction to it. I’ve heard ayawaska and psilocybin take the user to the same mystical place and they get similar messages. So for two of you to see the same

          • Sandygirl on August 27, 2016 at 6:45 pm

            Whoops, hit reply.
            So strange you would both be on the same frequency. I’m not sure we can trust audio and computer generated meditation help.

          • goshawks on August 27, 2016 at 8:37 pm

            Sandygirl, just for the record, I was not ON hemisync when I saw Robert Monroe in ‘flickering’ mode (several times).

            In addition, hemisync was developed by analyzing the brainwave traces of ‘natural’ meditators. That was the source for developing frequency patterns that would ‘entrain’ people into similar brainwave traces.

            In the West, we have been semi-forced into beta brainwave states. That is all we know. Fully-alert. Alpha when day-dreaming; delta and theta in sleep, only. No training, and actual censorship against deep-knowing…

            Hemisync was developed to get past those facts of our culture. If you wanted to, you could devote 20-30 years to develop the meditational skills to reliably reach delta/theta land – and this is the key – while ALSO holding enough beta to remain conscious (otherwise, you are just falling asleep).

            Few people are, or will-be, doing the above long-term work. Hemisync-like technologies are a way to pre-condition the brain for further individual progression. Is it as good as taking 20-30 years out? Probably not. As an ‘antidote’ for ingrained cultural weaknesses, it is probably good-enough…

  14. T.J. on August 23, 2016 at 10:08 am

    Similar technologies have been available since at least the 1960s, when I was studying for a B.A. & PhD in psychology. Now much more advanced. Allegedly able to target individuals from space via genetic/energy identification, as per an ex-CIA & ex-U.S.-Army Special Forces Colonel friend. Insidious stuff.

  15. Liontree on August 23, 2016 at 9:45 am

    Very interesting. I also think this kind of technology has been tested for decades. I played a weird observational game as a child, and still do out of habit, a game to see on what level people are brainwashed and if so, how and why. Class or race or sex doesn’t factor in. For best results, you have to have an understanding of behavioral psychology, both for individuals and crowds. I’m going to keep the conclusions of these weird investigations to myself. I can say that I’ve never seen anything anyone is suffering under where said human being has not opened a door or invited interference of whatever order, on some level. Mostly, I would like to point out that plain old-fashioned entrainment, propaganda, trauma, fear, manipulation of the sexual urge, and repetition, etc, got us right here without implants. (That being said I also think there are whole genetic strains that can be treated within the narrative of realtime as de facto implants, if only in terms of novelty of consciousness, which by factor of its newness can be a huge and short-term disruptive change agent as explained by Rudolf Steiner’s the Occult Nature of Blood.)

    I also wonder if financial game/survival scenarios are just as useful as a purely social control mechanism even after its lost all or most of its connection to real productivity. People seem to be hiding and quivering behind their little professions and book bindings and using them as weapons more than ever. I also read Marshal McLuhan’s cultural ideas here as having useful things to say about the quasi-mystical relationship the group dynamic of the west is currently having with the internet (media) landscape. When it comes to the mind interference stuff, I wonder more about soils depleted of minerals, fluoride, smart meters, phones, screens and the on-going contempt of love. If only we were able to watch ourselves as we interacted with our world as so many of us do – sitting in silence hunched over and staring blankly at a screen. The medium is message, the McLuhan approach works for me here in both the positive and negative sense.

    • Sandygirl on August 24, 2016 at 4:45 pm

      Synchronicity, I looked his book up earlier today to buy.
      Yes the people open the door to accept a reality already made up for them by constant programming and a lie becomes the truth.
      AP reported researchers working on a DNA Zika vaccine, they use a circular piece of DNA to carry genes that prompt the body to produce Zika virus proteins alerting the immune system. They use volunteers naming them the Human Challenge Protocols.

  16. DanaThomas on August 23, 2016 at 8:45 am

    Running on a treadmill. Injection of a “beneficial experimental substance”. Cool lighting. This could just as well be in a specialised “human” training milieu.

  17. Kahlypso on August 23, 2016 at 8:03 am

    If they are releasing this in Mainstream news.. I quiver at the thought of what they have already succeeded to do in human trials.. that of course haven’t happened. Tie this to to the ‘Bringing back the dead’ blog you did.. We’re looking at Universal Soldier.. I’m still convinced that the Neaderthals and cybernetics issues you’ve been blogging about are part of this scheme.. Undead Cybernetic Remote Controlled (by Smart Dust engineered to trigger certain reactions.. rage, lack of empathy, etc..) Neaderthal Soldiers… Or Igigi as they were called oh so long ago..

    • iZeta on August 23, 2016 at 8:19 pm

      interesting about the Igigi Kahlypso. I remember reading about them in Sitchin’s books. I thought they were the Greys.

      • Kahlypso on August 24, 2016 at 4:20 am

        Hi iZeta. Just so we’re clear, its my personal opinion that the Neaderthals and Igigi are related, based on observations that I’ve made. I don’t have any empirical data or evidence to support this.. just HOS..

        • Kahlypso on August 24, 2016 at 5:29 am

          For exemple, according to the Neaderthal Genome study, its become clear to ‘scientists’ that Neanderthals and humans shared a common ancestor in Africa 600 000 years ago… Round about the time the Annunaki turned up..Then we have observations which claim to support the theory that .. “(their) genetic legacy is the result of interbreeding roughly 50,000 years ago between Neanderthals and the common ancestors of Europeans and Asians.” We have Neaderthals being discovered in Siberia as well.
          According to Sitichins text (borrowing heavily from Lost book of Enki here..) The Igigi rose up and belly-ached to Enlil about the hard work, who promptly wanted to kill them all for their cheek.. We have texts claiming that an Igigi was used to mix his hero’s essence with the local ‘clay’ (which I think is a colloquial term used by the Annunaki for the Homo ‘animal’ that was running around Africa that got gene spliced.) Which brings us to the ‘common ancestor’ Then they were bred out 50k years ago… Again, from Lost Book of Enki, its stated that the Igigi from Lahmu turned up to Marduk’s wedding, grabbed a bunch of Adamite women and then promptly disappeared into (what is know) Asia, in the last known direction of the Ka-in-nites. After Marduk had him banished for killing his brother.. (Anyone else wondered about the name Cain (as we now know it..) and the Qin Empire?
          Which would place them in Mid-Asia..
          However, what is interesting is that it appears that the Neaderthal Y genome is incompatible in human DNA.. INCOMPATIBLE… so they are not human?? Which would relate to the problemes that Enki and Ninhursag and Ningishzidda had when trying to make an Annunaki hybrid. It wasnt until they used Annunaki surrogate mothers to pass through the X chromosome that the experiments worked. Which may relate to the Annunaki practise of interbreeding through femlae lines to purify the ‘male line.. ergo the Y chromosome’.. Hmm.. Hang on.. my spider sense is tingling..

          • Kahlypso on August 25, 2016 at 5:45 am

            HOS – High Octane Speculation.. just borrowing the term from Dr Farrel. As it fits so nicely to this train of thought..:)I think that the Neaderthals were around before Homo Sapien Sapien. There are bones that were found in Spain that were dated to over 400 000 years ago, but they have Neaderthal AND Denisovan genetic traits in those bones.. However, and this is what ‘bugs’ me.. Is that the Neanderthal was better built, more resistant, had a bigger brain capacity.. It makes no sense in the classic form of Evolution that this species didnt rock out and dominate the genus. Unless they had difficulties with breeding patterns and were soon overwhelmed by the ‘humans’ who seem to be able to take any ‘seed’ from anywhere.. and make it grow.. in the bibical sense.

          • goshawks on August 27, 2016 at 12:19 am

            Kahlypso, thanks. Some highly-provocative (in the good sense) comments. There is so much history where we can just read-about-the-edges. Proscribed/taboo. It will be the ‘mavericks’ that put it all together, not the mainstream academics…

            I have had a copy of “The Lost Book of Enki” for a few years, but had not gotten-about to read it. I figured it was just a rehash of earlier books. Your extracts put it toward the top of my book-pile (grin). Thanks.

            With the Igigi being the likely-source for the non-Neanderthal/Homo Sapiens-progenitor genes, it becomes VERY IMPORTANT to identify who they were (in a species way). Half our genetic heritage, as it were. If they were just another caste of Anunnaki, that is one thing. If they were a completely-different species (say, captured/conquered Pleiadians, doing what they must to survive), that is another thing. Much research to be done here…

            On the Y-chromosome, “Scientific American” magazine had an article 8-10 years ago on the human Y-chromosome. It noted two major ‘disruptions’ to the Y-chromosome through the ages. (I can’t remember the age-dating by genetics). The mainstream geneticists attributed those major changes to natural ‘genetic mutations’, of course. They also had a generic microscope photo, showing all the human chromosomes. It was very evident how ‘mangled’ the Y-chromosome looked next-to all the other chromosomes, including the X-chromosome. (Based on the Y-chromosome’s mangled-ness and its conserved-state in reproduction, the researchers even wondered if humans were headed for extinction.) More research…

            I also agree about questions around the ‘capability’ of the Neanderthal/Homo Sapiens progenitor. Casts of the interior of Neanderthal skulls show a larger brain capacity than Cro-Magnon. (Not to mention whomever the ancient Peruvian extended-skulls were.) Were important ‘skillsets’ edited-out in the gene-editing process?

            Much to ponder…

          • goshawks on August 27, 2016 at 12:22 am

            Kahlypso, I tried to respond, but “Your comment is awaiting moderation.” Bah.
            goshawks – August 27, 2016 at 12:19 am.

        • iZeta on August 25, 2016 at 12:40 am

          I have considered this also Kahlypso. Neanderthals quite suddenly appeared on the human timeline and it seemed to me that they might have been fabricated or an attempt at an upgrade from the previous set of hominids – an odd thing considering that universe that is subject to entropy. By the way, what is HOS?

      • goshawks on August 24, 2016 at 4:27 am

        The Igigi were a ‘second contingent’ of the Anunnaki that came after the first wave (Enki, Enlil, and all). They were ‘second class citizens’ in status, obeying the primes.

        Some authors try to make the Igigi out as refugees from an Anunnaki base/facility on Mars. (I don’t remember the exact source-material on this issue.) If the Anunnaki were dracos, they are frequently cited as having conquered the greys’ home planet and forced them into subservient roles. This would fit, if true…

        • Kahlypso on August 24, 2016 at 5:34 am

          Darn it Goshawks.. me too waiting for moderation.. and I cannot bring myself to re write that wall of text… but do come back and read when Dr Farrel sees it later. I’d be very interested to see what you think of my ‘thoughts’..if the comment is released.
          Yeh – Igigi were the slave race created by the Annu, which throws Enlil’s outrage and pompous trumpet blowing out the window when he complains about only the Father Creator having the right to create ‘new’ things.

          • iZeta on August 29, 2016 at 1:58 am

            Kahlypso and Goshawks:
            this entire thread was fascinating! You both know so much!

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