STRANGE MESSAGES FROM THE MIDDLE EAST: PART ONE: RUSSIA
In case you haven't noticed, there have been a couple of strange - in fact, very strange - messages coming from the Middle East in the last few days. And for once, they didn't come from the perpetually strange and bizarre (out)house of Saud. While I'm tempted, because of the strangeness of these statements, to wonder if someone might be slipping a little LSD into the water supply in Damascus and Baghdad, that convenient explanation, unfortunately, will not work in these instances, since the populations of Damascus and Baghdad, American lamestream media biases notwithstanding, do not appear to be "tripping." Since the LSD-in-the-water-supply hypothesis will not work in these instances, I am required to fall back on our trademark high octane speculation.
Unfortunately, these statements are so strange and bizarre, particularly given the context and geopolitical situation in which they were made, that I will have to treat each of them in a separate blog, so today's "part one" is about the strange Russian statement, which was noticed and shared by many regular readers of this site, to whom, of course, I am grateful for bringing it to our attention:
General Konashenkov: Russia will take down any unidentified flying objects in Syria
Now when something appears on The Saker's website, I tend to sit up and take notice, for it's one of the most respected websites on the internet for presenting and arguing events from the "Russian point of view." And this consideration brings us chin to chin with General Konashenkov's strange comments in a press briefing, and a message targeted specifically and directed to Washington:
Today the Syrian Army is equipped with the air defense complexes effective enough, such as S-200, BUK, and other defense system
Also, we want to remind the American “strategists” that Russia currently has S-400 and S-300 air-defense systems deployed to protect its troops stationed at the Tartus naval supply base and the Khmeimim airbase. The radius of the weapons reach may be “a surprise” to all unidentified flying objects.
It’s important to come back to reality and to realize that Russian air defense system crews are unlikely to have time to determine in a ‘straight line’ the exact flight paths of missiles and then who the warheads belong to. And all the illusions of amateurs about the existence of ‘invisible’ jets will face a disappointing reality,
Say what? The range of the weapons may be "a surprise to all unidentified flying objects"?
As few days ago I blogged about a similarly strange statement from Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova, who indicated that there would be "tectonic consequences" if Washington continued on its war path. As I noted, "tectonic" is a phrase designed to underscore in the strongest possible language that the geopolitical consequences would be, well, tectonic, i.e., earth shattering. I speculated that Russia was sending signals that it was prepared to use non-conventional weapons of mass destruction, other than nuclear ones, such as "earthquake" weapons. In other words, Ms Zakharova's unusual choice of language had at least two layers of possible interpretation.
Now, a Russian major general is offering the statement that Russian air and missile defense systems have a greater range of operation than Washington suspects, one that :"might be a surprise to all unidentified flying objects." Again, one is confronted with two possible interpretations. At the first and more prosaic, and therefore, more probable level, "unidentified flying objects" could be taken to mean "unidentifiable through transponder signals or any other conventional method of identification," in other words, an "unknown" but conventional aircraft violating Syrian airspace and not responding to commands to identify itself.
But a Russian major general using such language is not going to be oblivious to how this choice of words would sound when translated into English, and to an American audience. Recall only a few months ago, the US army General Kinney made remarks about soldiers, sailors and airmen having to fight "little green men," and I speculated that given the colloquial meaning of such a phrase, he was hinting that we might have to be (or already are) engaged in a covert war in space with "little green men." Of course, at that time, I received angry emails and comments that this was simply a well-known military code for "Russian special forces." At that time, I responded "nonsense," language is language and these men do not speak nor choose their words oblivious to their colloquial and common meaning.
The same, I argue, applies with General Konashenkov's remarks, for he knows full well what the colloquial meaning of "unidentified flying objects" is in the English. To put it bluntly, it means firstly "flying saucers," nuts and bolts high technology of an extraterrestrial, non-human nature and original, and less widely, it implies advanced human black projects propulsion technology. So what's he saying? On this extremely speculative analysis and view, he could be saying (1) we can shoot down the high tech of any "allies" you may have hovering "out there", or (2) any of your own secret high tech, or (3) both.
Of course, the first view, the more prosaic one, is probably what is in view, but the simple fact remains that the other interpretations cannot be excluded, especially given the fact that other strange remarks were made in the same time frame, from Iraq. But for that, we'll have to wait until tomorrow...
See you on the flip side...
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At first I thought it was a mistranslation, but the word used is actually the same as that which is used for UFO’s (“неопознанных летающих объектов”) as I found after searching through a Russian transcript of the briefing.
I asked a Russian friend to confirm this and she did, but also said that there is some obvious sarcasm bleeding through in the Russian that is not being transferred over to the English-language reporting of the briefing, which is not surprising given the current state of US/UK news media.
In the end I would just read this as no serious double meaning intended, and maybe just a prickly statement given by a general being a bit boastful.
Hmmmm. . . . . wonder if the range of the S-300’s and/or S-400’s would extend into eastern Syria, or Mosul, even all the way to Ankara? The unstable neo-Ottomanist, Recep Tayyip Erdogan appears to have elevated himself into the Heavens with his recent diatribes.
Operational range of the s400..
400 km (40N6 missile)
250 km (48N6 missile)
120 km (9M96E2 missile)
40 km (9M96E missile)
One thing that does need to be remembered here, Russia is completely outgunned if US and Nato decide to tackle the bear in Syria. They are assisting the Syrian Army, (legally.. but lets remember what a real bar steward Assad is.. He’s not a nice person, even if he’s the legally elected Dictator over there) but have no real ground based forces in place.
I think I’ve figured out why the Hitlary group are so peeved off with Putin..*
Check this out.. Bush Senior makes a load of money as the Director of the CIA importing crack cocaine to send all the black people to Jail… (and the white trash too, but who cares about them) Imports the goods through Arkansas.. Enter the Clintons.
Bush and Clinton tribes get together, come up with a great plan to share power for the next 20 -30 years and make LOADS more money.
Then they get upset because Putin does pretty much the same thing, but without (I suppose) the Crack, and bothering to make a (farcer’s) show of changing the power between Bush and Clinton for the last decade. He just said, no, the boss its me, and will be for years to come.. The Bushton couple have to actually go through the Dancing Monkey steps of getting ‘elected’.
Interesting…..
A conventional approach on how Russia wants their message received is simple. It means “unidentified flying objects”. The recent broken cease-fire agreement was precisely because the Pentagon said it will never share flight intelligence with the Russians. Therefore, to the Russians the American flights simply appear to be “unidentified flying objects”. I do like the Russians double entendre because there needs to be an element of truth in the double meaning to make it work.
I can imagine the lying, sycophantic US media headlines, “Putin is mad and wants to shoot down UFO’s”.
I’ll pass this along, just in case. From a controversial website author:
“War with Russia Imminent.
This report is now 100 percent confirmed, with mainstream media picking it up (despite lacing the report with lies about why the war is probably going to start) which further confirms the call back really is true:
dailymail dot co dotuk/news/article-3833941/Russia-orders-officials-fly-home-relatives-living-abroad-tensions-mount-prospect-global-war.html#ixzz4Ms3uoqWn
Russia has ordered all students studying abroad to return home, and ALL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, PLUS ALL RUSSIANS LIVING ABROAD WHO ARE NOT GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS BUT ARE WORKING JOBS ELSEWHERE AND STILL HAVE THEIR CITIZENSHIP, EVEN IF IT IS DUAL CITIZENSHIP. Most people are not making the point that it is more than just a call back of the college students.
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This is the True marker of war on the horizon. The Russians believe a huge war is going to start, and they don’t want people trapped everywhere.
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This is the BIG ONE: It is not just ‘everyone in America return home’. No, it is everyone in Zimbabwe, Iran, Canada, New Zealand, Paraguay, Andorra – you name it – they are calling them ALL back. And, that means War.”
The NWO appears to be getting caught and blocked on their rigging of the election in the early voting maneuvers. They are loosing ground in European elections and if Trump wins it will be all over for the NWO. They will destroy the US power base rather than take a chance on losing it to their enemies. They will likely stand down and force the US to face Russia and China alone to be destroyed without any allies by our side rather than let us regain control of our own government, military and economical might. Their opporatives in our highest key positions of power will likely sabatoge our defense and may even surrender to neutralize the threat of our freedom from them. A police state will clamp down on the rest of the world and political disidents may be neutralized to save their NWO. Russia and China have likely cut a deal with the NWO but will they keep it after the US is conquered? This is just a scenario I see possible.
US allies, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, are buying oil from ISIS via Iraq, and at the same time the US is supposedly fighting ISIS. Does anyone else see the problem with current US strategy. If our allies are selling oil from ISIS, our European allies are buying it. From what I see, the US wants us to believe there is an Iraqi government fighting ISIS too? There is a lot of strangeness in the ME, but it all seems to be about the oil, and who controls it. Meanwhile, these unidentified flying objects hovering in the sky aren’t looking for a gas station. If it wasn’t serious,it would be humorous.
My thoughts are somewhat parallel to those of Walking Dead. If we interpret the Russians literally, then the possibility emerges that the Russians have installed vortex generator propulsion units (macroscopic models of an electron) –similar to those used to obtain the antigravitational potentials of the full-blown disc shaped craft– in tandem with some rocketry (to mask the higher tech). In this case, the effective range of, say, the S-400 could very well then be unlimited. –at god-only-knows what speed– would indeed come as “a surprise” to the American military. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if the Russians could actually target the Lunar Operations Command base rumored to be on the dark side of the Moon.
In my opinion he clearly meant both unidentified aircraft (a favourite of the USA’s CIA and intelligence operations) and the aerial vehicles of non-terrestrials allied with the USA.
I have been convinced that there are three major extra-terrestrial powers at work on Earth … with one allied with the USA and NATO, one allied with the People’s Republic of China, and another allied with the Russians.
I have noticed that we in the West think we and our “allies” are the only game in space, but it is far more complex than that.
I’ll believe in aliens the day I have an invading one I’ve captured squirming under the heel of my boot.
That is certainly a vivid image. But I was not speaking of “aliens” in a non-human sense. My opinion is that the non-terrestrial powers are non-Earth humans or humanoids. I will refrain from saying more because it simply sounds like science fiction.
LOL!
I think the main point here is that Russia is in Syria “by invitation” and are legally assisting the Syrian government to fight he bad guys. So what of the warning to shoot down anything in Syrian air space. This without doubt the line in the sand, the Russians are fed up with the US air force bombing Syrian military forces.
One wonders if US fighter pilots are actually aware of what their bombs are doing, I mean they are just given targets. As for any “UFO’s” I don’t think the US would “RISK” sending any “secret space” technology to Syria, it is the worlds most top secret program and has been for along time. But the mere mention of UFO is a message to the US, that Russia is fully aware of the secret space program.
I think this is the true argument.
If the world don’t know the real situation of every american projects, clear or secrets, Russian probably know very well every initiative and project of americans (from Hitlary or from Cia or from sionists, or from all together) tectonic/telluric, lunar bases, satellit guns, alien weapons and other more or less fantastic are not only from americans, and they must give carefully attention to all. Today America is not yet able to subjugate the world …. if the world does not want Hitlary must be very careful in her movements.
with regard to the elections, Trump could also win, but at the date of today . . . . . . in 100 years, in America, how many presidents have been assassinated? without ever finding the real culprits?
I tell you,
MANY !!!!!
if my read sources are credible it seems the Middle East (especially Iraq and the Gulf of Aden) maybe star-gate havens-
I came to the conclusion long ago the weirder, bizarrer, more outlandish, preposterous a concept may initially appear the more truth there is probably behind it;
anyone still believing we are the only possible sentient beings in our vast universe is not in touch with reality; if we’re the only thing the universe can concoct for sentient beings then the universe is retarded-
wasn’t it Ben Rich who said “now that we have the formula right we can send ET back home”?-
and the Russians don’t have the same “formula”?!-
besides, if my read sources are correct the planes bombing Syria are US planes painted as Russian planes (easy thing to do)- Russia definitely seems to be keeping the upper hand in the middle east conflict although we don’t hear much of anything about this in our tainted western media-
“the hope for the world will emerge out of Russia”- venerable psychic Edgar Cayce
make of the info what you will-
Larry in Germany
If Russia is indeed speaking of the extra-territorial state and their flying aircraft, do they really know what the defensive capabilities of these things are? They may shoot at them and find their ‘arrows’ returning on their own heads. If they did manage to shoot one down, don’t you think it would be rather like poking a dragon in the eye? They could retaliate in ways the Russians have no concept of. I think if it was me, I wouldn’t be blustering too loudly until I was absolutely sure of what I was dealing with.
Intriguing speculation like usual. I believe that the little green men comment is about the use of Russian special forces that quickly and efficiently secured the Crimea. It was all in the news at the time. This is a type of hybrid warfare where the military forces are somewhere between official and clandestine. But, Joseph, your speculation may also be true. I really had a good laugh when I heard General Kinney make these comments. It sounded almost like a satirical skit on Saturday Night Live.
The comments by the Russian general could simply be telling the US that don’t think your stealth aircraft are really that stealth at all. But I find your high octane speculation also very plausible. I’m really looking forward to your video tomorrow.
A year or two ago there was a discussion on the website about the nature of various ship and aircraft disappearances or wrecks reported over the years and possible connection with so-called ufo phenomena and how the terrestrial space powers are dealing with it. If we add the unreported disappearances (i.e. military aircraft and vessels of various nations), we may be seeing yet more confirmation about use, over a very long time, of “unconventional” technology by parties known and unknown. This is against the background of the apparently ongoing Russo-American space collaboration, which seems to be running along its own track whatever the amount of neocon hot air produced here on Earth.
All males of the offending nation state could wake up some morning and find that they’ve been rendered permanently impotent and infertile, for example.
Regrets. My reply above was intended to be tagged to Loisg’s comment above Dana’s.
Care to hazard a guess why America is the laughing stock of the world?
http://www.arclaw.org/newsletter/9-2.pdf
Talk given by Frederick M. Hodges; DPhil, at 12th International Symposium on Law, Genital Autonomy and Human Rights
Helsinki, 2012
The Russian general’s meaning could be that an active response on their part might be directed at any number of potential US targets in the area and not necessarily the one from which our missile or missiles originate from. The idea we have some super high tech operating in the theatre I believe is a given, and the Russian’s announcement simply voices their intelligence capabilities, their commitment to their stance as well as their intention to respond to any US agression.
Joseph: Your high octane speculation is consistent with reports from Corey Goode, David Wilcock, William Tompkins, Clifford Stone & Bob Wood about current battles in space.
As per Wilcock & Goode, Putin is the leader of the “Earth Alliance” (mostly BRICS-aligned nations), which is now winning the war against “The Cabal.” Both sides allegedly have non-terrestrial alliances and very advanced weapons & technologies.
Apparently genuine documents from Tompkins, Wood & Stone appear to corroborate the whistleblower-type testimony of Wilcock & Goode.
Has the Nazi International’s strategy changed; that of pitting the U.S. and Russia at each others throats?
Is Putin in non compliance with this strategy by wanting to achieve a dialogue of compromise?
Now when push comes to shove; you don’t shove the Russians. Don’t assume they lie & bluff like the crazies out-of-a-box, neocon/neoliberal West.
Of course they lie and bluff, every single nation/state does it.
Lies from a Russian perspective are more of a “gambit” than outright falsehoods you hope your opponent will fall for. Think chess instead of poker. The Russians have been playing chess so long from childhood on up that it is in their DNA by now.
Russia = chess
USSA = poker
In chess you do make moves that are not correct intentionally sometimes. In military terms it is called a cauldron and we’ve seen a lot of them lately. It is done at all levels from small ones like Debaltseve, and Aleppo up to probably earth wide.
Well what the Boy Scouts motto Be Prepared well the Russian and Syrian government forces. Are saying they will not be stumped on and will not roll over and die. And if you’re violating Syrian airspace without their permission you be considered a legal target and will be dealt with accordingly . UFOs means any unidentified flying object be it terrestrial or extraterrestrial and if there in a place they’re not suppose to be they will be taken out plain and simple.
I find it a small step to “knowing” that off-planet beings have a big agenda regarding what we are doing to ourselves here. The ET’s have taken sides and Putin has the good-guys on his as well as their technology. We are not alone; it just seems like that. The chaos about to be unleashed will allow change for the betterment of us humans; small, simple, and self-destructive as we remain. It seems that only more chaos will allow the tide waters of peace to start flowing.
Hmmm, anyone else been having emails to this site returned as “undeliverable”?
Rama Putin certainly has his hands full. He appears to be confronted by the nightmare scenario: a zionist, nazis, and alien alliance. Add to that the specter of Lady Ravana Clinton taking the empress crown in the west.
I guess the big question may be: will War Demon Hillary take orders from these extraterrestrials be they space nazis, alien cousins, or little green men? Will she even take orders from the deep state? The one intriguing thing about a Darth Hillary Presidency is the prospect of this megalomaniacal sociopath turning on her handlers. Her evil forebear, Joseph Stalin, seems to have done just that. I suspect Banksters, neocons and deep state nazis, better beware of their Frankenstein monster. Get your popcorn, gas mask, iodide tablets, and tradeable meds and basketball sneakers ready, we are in for quite an experience.
Sorry, Vomito, hit the Report button by mistake. Please ignore.
I just wanted to congratulate you on your sadomasochist tendency since you seem eager 2 watch an upcoming horror show.
I can’t find anything on the tv that captures my attention anymore. WWIII is just the kind of thing to pull me out of this malaise.
She has no life left in her to pull off what you suggest. She can’t even campaign for the most important 3 weeks in her life. She will do whatever she is told to be given the elixir of life to keep her going just a little bit longer.
Stalin was in his prime physically and mentally when he pulled the coupe off.
Oh dear, I must have read and listened to much JP Farrell and caught the new desease “farrellitis”. When I read and saw the clip with the Russian Major General I tought just that. Oh those Nazi Internationals out there somewhere with your fancy toys better watch out if you get strange imperial thougts in your head, Russia is apparently ready and able.
Let’s take what was said at face value. Russia is signaling that they have and will use something other than “rockets” to take down any “flying” objects of an unidentifiable nature, be they cruise missiles, stealth aircraft, aircraft “recently repainted” to resemble theirs, or “advanced” craft of an unknown nature. We can probably assume this might be of a “Tesla” type technology which they, most likely, have already demonstrated with the USS Donald Cook and in Syria. Tom Bearden warned of this capability years ago and highlighted the fact that we were woefully behind them in this type of weaponry.
Now, lets take this a step farther, what they are also saying is, should we even consider a “first strike”, they have the capability to negate it, which would leave us at their mercy. That ups the ante astronomically if you factor in the insanity of the Neocons and add Hitlery, as President, to the mix; who has already stated she would attack Russia and Iran should she win the “selection”.
The “little green men” type comments we have been hearing may just be their way of letting us know they know about our “advanced” craft which have been observed and labeled “UFO’s” by those observing them.
This is my “high octane” speculation and has me thinking it may be time to move to a “safe zone” of a more practical nature should Hitlery manage to steal the “selection” through fraud (about the only way she could win it IMHO). The outcome of this Presidential race will determine the fate of this nation. Most are totally unaware of the fact the globalists are willing to sacrifice this nation or any other to achieve their goals.
Russia is calling ALL their people home, from every country!!!
Baahh.. Last comment under moderation.. I suppose I was asking for it with that many hyperlinks in one response….
In case it gets liberated tomorrow.. (FREEEEEEDOMMMM!!!)
The essentiel thing is.. The Russians, the Vatican and even Naza are pushing through the disclosure meme.. They’ve been talking about it fro some time.
However, the important thing to see here.. Is that the Russians are confident that they can knock down ‘UFO’s…. Have you seen how fast these things go?? THAT’s the important thing here.. The Russians think (they even publically state it on international news media, so forgot about ‘what did they mean to say when they said UFOs??’ they say that they can knock them down..
The Russians have been talking about Aliens for sometime now..
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.223/russia-orders-obama-tell-world-about-aliens-or-we-will.html
Even that “social conditionning through state sponsered terrorism group .. (yep never managed to forgive the Inquisition..) the Vatican are re-writing the Bible to include the Greys.. Yes they too can be baptised into the saving light of Lord Jesus.. http://exopolitics.org/vatican-preparing-statement-on-extraterrestrial-life/
Even NAZA are getting the legal loopholes ready for ‘future’ discoveries.. http://www.loc.gov/loc/kluge/news/nasa-program-2014.html
Now then.. This raises some interesting points about the UFOs… themselves..
Are the S400 series able to send rockets up fast enough and track effectively UFOs that can do this…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgha03umwhw
It has been said.. (i’ll stop with the links before the Website starts banning me..) that Anti Gravity Aerodymes.. (I refuse to call them UFOs, we know what the heck they are) can manouveur so quickly as they are not affected by gravity (and by my way of thinking, therefore not affected by time in the same way) so the occupants are not subjected to G force.
If the Russians have something that can knock those out of the Air.. (last time one dropped out of the Sky was when they rammed another ‘Extra Terrestriel’ craft over the Neveda desert in the 40’s .. ) then it sure won’t be a missile..Maybe they have figured out how the Pyramid Machine works with their experimental pyramids built around Moscow..
The primitive radar of the 1940s apparently made the UFOs unstable. The USA were using it as a weapon to bring them down and were successful. The Russians have very good RF scientists.
Hi TRM, that’s interesting, I hadnt heard about that – can you link anything that explains Radio waves being used to destabalise UFOs? I think that I’m “starting” to understand the basic science behind the ‘flying saucer’s’ with the enormous disclosure info coming out. I’m interested to see how RF affects gravity.