STRANGE STARS? OR ALIEN CONTACT?

In the light of this week's focus on space news, Mr. R.B. sent along this article and I have to pass it along to the readership here. It seems scientists at Canada's Laval University have done a very intriguing study of the signals emanating from 234 star systems. Why just 234? We'll get to that in a moment. Here's the article:

As the article notes, the reason for the selection of just 234 stars is their similarity to our own Sun. Most of us have read about those recent news items the past few years where various planets in the "vicinity" of a few light years are prime candidates for the possibility of harboring life, perhaps even intelligent life. But this study is different in focusing on the types of stars themselves, and the signals originating from their systems:

What we’re talking about here is a new study from E.F. Borra and E. Trottier, two astronomers at Laval University in Canada. Their study, titled “Discovery of peculiar periodic spectral modulations in a small fraction of solar type stars” was just published at arXiv.org. ArXiv.org is a pre-print website, so the paper itself hasn’t been peer reviewed yet. But it is generating interest.

The two astronomers used data from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey, and analyzed the spectra of 2.5 million stars. Of all those stars, they found 234 stars that are producing a puzzling signal. That’s only a tiny percentage. And, they say, these signals “have exactly the shape of an ETI signal” that was predicted in a previous study by Borra.

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The authors acknowledge five potential causes of their findings: instrumental and data reduction effects, rotational transitions in molecules, the Fourier transform of spectral lines, rapid pulsations, and finally the ETI signal predicted by Borra (2012). They dismiss molecules or pulsations as causes, and they deem it highly unlikely that the signals are caused by the Fourier analysis itself. This leaves two possible sources for the detected signals. Either they’re a result of the Sloan instrument itself and the data reduction, or they are in fact a signal from extra-terrestrial intelligences.

"So what?" you might say. "Where's the high octane speculation in all that? And besides, who cares? They're light-years away."

Bear with me for a moment while we consider the methodology here: it isn't all that unusual. In fact, I remain at a loss to figure out why no one has attempted it before now. And that point brings me to the high octane speculation. Suppose someone had done it, secretly, before now, in a kind of "secret SETI" project? After all, the idea of such secret "space mapping" isn't all that new. In fact, NASA did it shortly after its foundation when it commissioned a Top Secret telescopic mapping program of the Moon.

If this were done some time ago in connection with certain types of stars emitting regular periodic laser signals, then this would bear with it a huge implication, namely, that aside from any alleged secretive "contact" event, scientists would have had a rough idea where any putative ETIs were from or where they might be based.

So the bottom line for me here is that we might be looking at yet another form of "limited hangout" position, a kind of limited "disclosure," which, when taken in the context of the other stories I've been blogging about the past few days, might be hugely significant.

And that, finally, brings us to President Obama's Space Weather Executive Order.

But for that, we'll have to wait until tomorrow.

See you on the flip side...

Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

43 Comments

  1. Blue Dragon Lord on October 27, 2016 at 2:59 am

    Well i would like to point out that those particular signals are not being sent here to contact anyone they are talking to each other it is that simple i wonder why people here still think it is about them this ego thing i guess.

    As no one here uses infa red bands here or anything over 1745 Khz ordinary red to send or receive so they picked up the signals all that proves is at least 234 different systems talk to each what you did not think you are alone in this vast galaxy did you no naturally you all have your head screwed on the right way.

    This example shows other sentient race communicate with each other out of respect and friendship the same cannot be said here which is sad but perhaps one day who know stranger thing happen all the best.



  2. iZeta on October 26, 2016 at 6:21 pm

    I think that articles like the one above are deliberately meant for the alternative communities as red herrings in the Von Braumian great deception narrative.

    Almost everyone in those circles desperately want disclosure and communion with ‘friendly space brothers’. These people will will be the first to shout it from the rooftops when the curtains finally open and the western world is tricked into believing ET is actually here. They need as many little stories such as these to continue to wait for their moment, as they think that they will be the ones to ‘teach and assist’ the not so open minded population. Everyone is being toyed with on many levels because people are no longer capable of critical thinking, comparative analysis, and are severely spiritually and morally devoid.

    If ETs ever come to Earth I would be watching very carefully what they say, who they hang out with, and very importantly, what deeds they do. And I’ll be watching it for a very long time before I make up my mind whether to trust them or not.



    • goshawks on October 26, 2016 at 8:05 pm

      iZeta, I would love to see a version of The X-Files’ “Jose Chung’s From Outer Space” happen to the baddies. (My favorite episode; recommended.) Let them set-up and even initiate their planned ‘von Braunian’ events. Then, let some version of ‘Lord Kinbote’ show up!



      • iZeta on October 26, 2016 at 10:06 pm

        Oh yeah I miss the good old TV days. In my ideal world, I’d like to see Species 8472 show up with their ultimate cleansing end-game strategies. Trouble is, we’d all get wiped out. Or better still, the Wraith from Stargate Atlantis. Now that’s a nasty lot!

        I watched Independence Day II the other night and went to bed troubled and wondering why TPTB are making the ETs look bad in movies, when in reality, their aim is to have humanity embrace our higher-than-thee space brothers. It bothers me that there is so much duplicity, but I suppose that’s the Yahwehness bleeding through their pores.



        • goshawks on October 27, 2016 at 1:25 am

          Several of the ‘ancient alien’ authors note that the future-Yahwehs behaved as though they were defeated and running from some superior force. Going to ground, as it were. That might be the ultimate origin of the phrase, “Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.” If that is the case, whomever chased-them down-here would naturally be painted as indisputably evil…



          • Blue Dragon Lord on October 27, 2016 at 3:13 am

            The only difference between science fiction and the truth is science fiction has to make sense the fact is you already have some nasty aliens here and their good friends in the shadow government keep them happy supplying people to find your weaknesses.

            What people might consider nice aliens from out of town can do nothing as they have treaties in place you chose your fate rejected the warnings and still do not pay heed it is of no matter as it seems some do not believe their is an us and them those who watch until the treaty is broken to help you and according to what i have read here sadly some still think they are alone in the galaxy so be careful for what you wish for right all the best.



          • Kahlypso on October 27, 2016 at 5:59 am

            There was no Yahweh.
            There isnt even any evidence that the Exodus happened.
            Even Moses’ story is horribly convulted and complicated.
            He bastardises the story of Osiris with the hiding in the bullrushes in a little boat.. they say that he had to be hidden because Pharoah ordered the death of Hebrew Children, but he’s supposed to ba an Eygptian Prince who received owenership of Jewish books.. no one can find Mount Sinai, cant find Horeb, No one from the original Exodus was supposed to have survived the 40 yrs wandering round the desert. (that 40 years.. Like the 40 days of rain during the flood, the 40 days in the desert for Jesus.. It was just their way of saying.. I have no idea how long I’ve been wandering the desert because I was kind of busy surviving rather than counting the days.. Are we tuesday or sunday and can I have some water please? However I believe that there was an exodus of slaves, lead without doubt by a disgraced and exiled prince..or priestly dignity probably ruinnnig away for mono-theistic beliefs prosecution..
            There was no YHWH in any pantheon at that time, there was a YHW (prononced Yahwuu) in the south of Caanite that was probably jumped on and used as a figure head.
            These guys turn up and the City states of Caanite auto-destruct. or its auto-destroyed just before.. In any case Isreal ended up being made of Caanite refugees once the city states imploded and Abraham’s Elohim worshipping ancestors got sucked into the newly created Israelites religion. (Elohim apparently means GodS and not God)



        • goshawks on October 27, 2016 at 8:47 pm

          Kahlypso, you might enjoy Ralph Ellis’ writings on the Egyptian and proto-Judaic period. Good scholarship. I have read his books and find them to be persuasive, if radical. There were actually TWO Exoduses; one big one back around the time Thera (Santorini) exploded, and one around Akhenaton’s time. King David and King Solomon turn out to be Hyksos kings in the eastern Nile delta region. Thut-moses. Duh. Recommended reading.



          • Kahlypso on October 28, 2016 at 5:21 am

            Hi Goshawks. Yep I’ve been reading round that period as well.
            I think that the Moises (but this guiy is like the Jesus figurehead.. there is no proof he existed) Exodus was very likely the one around Akhenaton’s period. Eygptian noble escaping religious persecution (mono-theism..) If these guys were wandering around Sinai Penisule, they certainly would have gone the south route to avoid the trade routes and patrols of Pharaoh. They would have put them directly in contact with the YHW god figure as they passed through (now) southern Isreal and arrived towards the Caanites City States. Bizarre how these wild eyed conquering forces from the south were obessed with mono-theism as well.
            But then again. Im’ convinced that Isreal was made up of the ‘fallen’ Caanites, reunited around this Mono-theism from Eygypt, to give themselves a common culture in order to unite them back into a working society… Abraham never talked about One God when he migrated out of Ur. He talked about Elohim, which is apparently a pluriel noun. (my hebrew is a little rusty.. no Im joking I dont know Hebrew..)



  3. Aridzonan_13 on October 26, 2016 at 3:28 pm

    If they are modulating stars.. Then I’m guessing they are not using gasoline.. And they could clean our clocks pretty quick in a confrontation. So, we are at their “good graces”.. I’m guessing those 234 stars have civilizations that differ greatly. So we probably have +200 of possibilities of how “Contact” will go.. To be filed under “We’ll see.”



    • goshawks on October 26, 2016 at 7:53 pm

      Aridzonan_13, well said! And that answers the question why the elite will bury any news that is not rendered-irrelevant by light-year distances…



      • Blue Dragon Lord on October 27, 2016 at 3:23 am

        You know that over light speed is possible by now surely or because there is a law here that says it is not it has limited you even the secret space program has zero point eight nine the speed of light capabilities and they are relatively new to going out of town those nice triangles they made using the ninety degrees coils TR3 i think they call them but they are getting there but if the were hoping their alies were going to give them better that part of their contract was never fulfilled but what do we know as being kept in the dark has its own rewards with ignorance being bliss all the best.



  4. DownunderET on October 26, 2016 at 2:57 pm

    Don’t forget Dr. Paul La Violette pulsars that are located in a non-random fashion.
    These are emitting some sort of signal directed towards Earth, so Joseph, jump in here any time you like.



  5. Robert Barricklow on October 26, 2016 at 10:46 am

    Just as they manipulate the price of gold/silver.
    Just as the manipulate energy by suppressing zero-point energies.
    They suppress and control all types of information in mathematics, histories, and sciences. Is it surprising they are suppressing alien signals?
    We need open-source everything.
    We’ve got a closed system on everything.
    Are we in a top-down hierarchy of control freaks? Running this global circus of clowns?



    • mpaff on October 26, 2016 at 11:29 am

      Can I please have the red pill?



      • Robert Barricklow on October 26, 2016 at 4:34 pm

        Deception spawns a mental ability to detect it.
        The smarter the species the more often deception occurs.
        Like Alice, for many who take the red pill comes this observation from the book itself:
        For, You see, So many out-of-the-way things had happened lately, that Alice began to think very few things indeed were really impossible.
        “Dear, dear? How queer everything is today! And yesterday things went on just as usual”.



      • Robert Barricklow on October 26, 2016 at 4:36 pm

        mpaff.
        My reply is under moderation, as I quoted a line or two from Alice In Wonderland’s book.



        • Nidster - on October 26, 2016 at 9:54 pm

          Yeah! Exactly as I described it years and years ago, we seem to be living in an updated world version akin to what was written about in “Through the Looking Glass”.



          • Blue Dragon Lord on October 27, 2016 at 3:29 am

            Yet we do know that the impossible is achievable as we never give up so i have to agree with you both and Alice is our inspiration bless her.



  6. Daryl Davis on October 26, 2016 at 10:44 am

    Could we examine the concept of a “limited hangout”? Perhaps, in order to have been an effective public management operation, any such partial disclosure ought to have first been:

    1) necessitated by an impending and unstoppable public event;
    2) revealed to a significant majority of the voting/consumer public;
    3) corroborated by “independent” agencies/laboratories;
    4) sanctioned by officials/government authorities;
    5) heightened by a chain of seemingly-natural, climactic discoveries;
    6) prepared for via imposition of otherwise intolerable emergency measures;
    7) concluded with the arrival of said unavoidable public event.

    But both in the case of this space signal discovery and in the previous case of anomalies detected on Saturn’s rings, the second control condition surely has not yet been reached, since both news stories have barely found their way to online science publications. In fact, the last significant worldwide media coverage of a scientific discovery was either the 2009 Mars water discovery, which thus far has led nowhere, or the 1994 Shoemaker-Levy Jupiter collision, which might have been a limited hangout only had it been a deep-state-engineered shot across the bow of our Saturn ring “friends”.

    A mere glance at the deep-state’s ham-handed demonizing of Russia makes it clear how subtle, or “limited”, their “hangouts” are likely to be. Recall the 1989 Pons-Fleischmann cold fusion disclosure, which, if the late Eugene Mallove is to be believed, stands as an example of a legitimate worldwide disclosure event that somehow managed to skip the first control condition and even pass the second before being eliminated at the third. It may well be, however, that the news spectacle itself was engineered to discredit mainstream science/cold fusion and thus discourage the media from covering any future claims thereof.

    And it is this trick perhaps that would be the more fitting use of the term “limited hangout” — the Oswald patsy treatment. In any case, since the deep state can always be counted on to reveal only what falls outside their power either to conceal or to otherwise explain away, said “hangout”, if legitimate, should roughly follow the control protocol above.



    • Blue Dragon Lord on October 27, 2016 at 3:34 am

      DD you make very valid point and your suggestion is noted however when the event whatever that maybe happens all the above goes out of the proverbial window if not already in place but it was a great read thanks wonderful to see people thinking ahead at options gives a real sense of hope keep it up all the best.



      • Daryl Davis on October 27, 2016 at 11:19 am

        Thanks, Blue Dragon Lord. As you suggest, this was only a protocol for a deep-state “limited hangout”, a partial disclosure. Any actual invasion, whether false-flag or real, may come without any warning to us and possibly without a warning to the deep state itself. Such a protocol would primarily be intended to preserve the authority of the deep state’s public proxies by preventing their looking as though they’d been caught off guard when said unstoppable event arrived.



  7. marcos toledo on October 26, 2016 at 9:51 am

    One question why are Western European Elites terrified of finding proof of extraterrestrial life. It’s one excuse after the other to promote the idea that life is rare or they can’t roam the spaceways. When will they get serious about looking for intelligence in the universe instead of coming up with lame and stupid excuses for denial of their existence. They nickel and dime the space programs but spend like a drunken sailor on any idiot war they can concoct to make money when they have more money than they can spend already. Are they that afraid they are really not alone in the universe?



    • Kahlypso on October 26, 2016 at 10:57 am

      “They nickel and dime the space programs but spend like a drunken sailor on any idiot war they can concoct to make money when they have more money than they can spend already.”

      AMEN Marcos! That Metaphor absolutely and completely hits it on the head.



    • Nidster - on October 26, 2016 at 9:48 pm

      Yes, very well stated Marcos.



    • Blue Dragon Lord on October 27, 2016 at 3:46 am

      MT i do love the way you coin a phrase sheer poetry but to answer your question in truth those elites do not have to wonder if they are alone in the galaxy as they know for absolute sure they are not as they are in business with them we all know this however the point was well made the funds spent on what the pubic sees is a mere pittance compared to what funds the shadow men have at the tax for black ops that is unlimited with over three point two trillion dollars missing from the accounting i say they had plenty to work with always a pleasure to read your well thought out provocking comments.



  8. Kahlypso on October 26, 2016 at 9:16 am

    Ah.; this should be in a Darth Soros or Heil Hillary thread… but its really interesting and because I like sharing.. germs illness and misery.. muahaha.. http://82.221.129.208/basepageq2.html

    However, I urge my American friends to document their vote this time. Don’t let it become another Bush/Gore Farce. No one can tell you that its illegal for you to film something that you are doing.



  9. Vomito Blanco on October 26, 2016 at 8:54 am

    And why can’t it be the stars communicating with each other? could they not be social entities like the rest of us? Perhaps they are reciting mantras for our benefit? Or possibly they are communicating like whales using pulsed calls. Perhaps all these stars are of the same pod. Maybe our Sun is in danger and is calling for help? Could it be the psychic load from it’s third nearest satellite is overwhelming and draining our Sun of it’s vitality or, possibly our Sun is complaining to his star friends that some pesky, myopic Earthlings have turned their new toys on Him in an attempt to control Him? Maybe our rather young Sun is asking his stellar comrades how he should react to this disruption? Should he send more of the life force in the hopes of raising our consciousness or should he just scorch the Earth and allow it to be reseeded with dinosaurs again?

    Oh wouldn’t you love to be able to decipher the conversation of stars? Perhaps some of the ancient texts have translated stellar communication and we have dismissed this knowledge. What if stars are as petty and gossipy as humans? What a disappointment that would be. That would make the Universe all that much bleaker. Considering the average age of a star, they must have some wisdom. Maybe instead of trying to interface with aliens, we should be trying to commune with stars. I for one will spend my evenings henceforth trying to listen to these stars. Maybe they are producing wonderful music that we only need to strain our consciousness slightly to enjoy. Maybe one day I will even be able to share my interpretation of this star music with you all around a warm campfire under the night sky with Dr. Farrell smoking his pipe and quietly wondering how to arrange this music for harpsichord and the rest of you humming along all the while silently making wishes to these large balls of fire above us.



  10. Kahlypso on October 26, 2016 at 8:06 am

    moderation?? oooh come on Doc.. there was only 2 links in that last one 🙂 🙂 🙂

    I do have one question that I’d like to ask the good users of this enlightened place.. What do you think about Alien contact? Will we be able to live with off wordly species, seeing our inability to live with members of our own species on our own planet (although the Reptilians would say that its their planet ..)



    • Roger on October 26, 2016 at 9:01 am

      Alpha beast global leadership is doing everything in their power to eliminated evolved man to remain in power. They would do everything in their power to discourge ET contact to remain in power at best; at worst they would attempt to take any ET of opportunity captive to try and find an exploitable genetic vulnerability to prevent them from interacting with us or to first strike them on their home world to remain in power. Evolved man would get along just fine with ETs but unfortunately we’re too few and aren’t allowed to run the show. If we ran the show everyone on the planet would be drug and disease free and educated to their highest ability or desire and the world would be a technological wonder and a new garden of Eden. But the current leaders wouldn’t like it because they wouldn’t have the power to abuse and exploit anyone which to them is what life is all about.



      • Kahlypso on October 26, 2016 at 10:50 am

        What if we dont want to be drug free ? 🙂
        Of my own investigations, I’m pretty sure (kind of.. there are things that make a lot of sense when you look at them upside down…).. that Viracocha set up the Meso-Americans as THE society that was supposed to eventually reach up to the stars and become part of the galactic brotherhood of nuclear powered Aliens.. I mean, these guys social structure (and stone working techniques), calender, astrological knowledge (rivalled the Sumerians) were more advanced and complicated than anything we have today.
        Even the spanish conquistadores as they were slaying and raping people and burning codexes in the name of God.. (that’s like saying killing in the name of Baron.. its just an Honorific.. like Inca for exemple…) at least some of them realised that they had destroyed a peaceful structured civilisation.. and why? So a criminal could get as much gold into his greedy graspy hands as possible and he didnt even live long enough to profit from any of it. Gold> than an entire civilisation of people who were taught to count years in units of MILLIONS!! They had no wheel, no pulley system, didnt even use animals as pack beasts, yet they knew how to count years in units of millions….
        (next bit is a rant and is all my own thoughts about what may have happened.. I have no evidence other than high speed coffee induced speculation..)
        And I’m also pretty sure that the original starting civilisation was in Antartica before the earths crust slipped due to the last ice age coming on and packing millions of tons of ice on the the north pole..and all that ice spinning in circles pulled the crust on the crust which sent Antartica into .. well the South Pole. At which point everyone rushed upwards to escape the Ice.. The two nearest land points to Antartica? South Africa and the Cape Horn. Which may explain why there are so many similitudes between Incan and Eygptian cultures.. (and Mesopotamian culture as well.) Pretty sure that there will be Pyramids and Gold Mines discovered in Antartica once its finished defrosting..

        Anyway.. if Aliens were looking into our history and seeing THAT.. you can bet you back teeth against bootstraps that there is NOOOOOO way that WE are getting up there .
        You can rant on about POwers that be, Reptile Overlords, Jewish Conspiracies and Yale Devil Worshippers all you want. We aint going NOWHERE mate!

        . . If there are Aliens hovering over our head and looking down..



        • Roger on October 26, 2016 at 7:54 pm

          If people choose to use drugs after knowing all the facts about the drugs they choose to use then that’s their business. But I don’t think the shadow government should get a free pass flooding our streets with cheap heroin and teaching our youth how to turn coke into a more addictive cheaper crack. I don’t think it’s just about the money, I think it is being used for control, destroying our youth’s potential, and getting people to compromise themselves in ways they would never do if drugs hadn’t rewired their brains and destroyed their morality. I’ve seen people before they got addicted to hard drugs and after, it’s not something I’d wish to see happen to anyone’s sons or daughters. The power structure likes the result of drugs not only because they profit off pretending to fight it, but also off filling the prisons with slave labor and getting government money to house them, and especially exploiting the more attractive youth in the shadows while they are addicted to drugs and willing to do just about anything for their next hit. They know well what they do and it’s all about exploiting to the max societies weakest and most vulnerable.



          • Kahlypso on October 27, 2016 at 5:41 am

            Hmm. You’re complaining about effect. Drugs dont cause all that misery, people do. When you talk about ‘hard’ drugs, its all following a chemical reaction that those drugs are made and become the ‘addiction inducing poison’ that they become.
            People do that because they are motivated by money. They get money because the drugs are illegal and therefore their commercial value increases. I agree, addiction must be dealt with, please dont think Im advocating drug use, but I do have a problem with someone telling me what I can and cannot do and I dont need a governmental decree to tell me if something is good or bad. I do not in any way demean nor deride the misery that is lived by addicts and their families. But look at the schema. Those addicts are in trouble because their drug is expensive. Its expensive because its illegal. It illegal because it makes too much money for the CIA, and therefore there is no interest to legalise…
            Makes you think about the Cannabis revolution happening in America at the moment. Look at how miuch money is going into tax receipts for those states.
            Anyway.. I was referring mostly to statues of Meso American Gods, that almost always have drug apparatus in their hands( cactus scrappers, etc) basically saying that if its good enough for the gods.. 🙂
            But you can blame the Nazi’s for most of the drug problemes now. If they hadnt come up with meth-amphetamine… or rather amphetamine at that time, then most of todays ‘hard’ drugs wouldnt even exist.



    • Neru on October 26, 2016 at 9:33 am

      Depends, more of our own psychology (or worse) = no thanks. And the ones with morals and principles I don’t see setling here in droves. Besides a few rare humans with morals and principles allready live amongst us lets get that multiplied first.

      And since that takes knollage intake, pondering about it, dot conecting and intake of more knowledge ect.. I am quite busy for years to come. I thought working for moderate wishes was hard work, never dreamed “freedom” would be that hard sweat earned. Not to mention I have but a inkling of what “freedom” means.



    • goshawks on October 26, 2016 at 7:41 pm

      Kahlypso, I think that we were systematically ‘helped’ to hate our fellow man. I suspect that we were vulnerable in some way, and were exploited. That does not mean that we were/are pure-as-snow, just that a few thousand years of division-promoting has had consequences. I would expect any semi-benevolent aliens to notice that we have been driven into ‘slum’ consciousness, and begin a reclamation program…



      • iZeta on October 26, 2016 at 10:40 pm

        That is a very interesting point. I read in Kerner’s book, his suggestion that the white man was a deliberate creation by the greys so that he could be easily controlled by their technology: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_zetareticuli04.htm, and, that by breeding out the melanin in humans, white man is no longer able to naturally connect with the higher realms and with other inhabitants of the planet, thus succumb to fear, cruelty and the pursuit of power.

        I’m not quite convinced that there is reclamation program (ie from a previous debt), but rather a harvesting for the purpose in creating human/alien hybrids, or better still, human/AI hybrids so they can hack into our natural connection with God.

        If any of this is true, then Dr Farrell’s suggestion that Lucifer is or was an AI masterpiece makes sense, because it would appear that these greys are executing their program against God, and against God’s greatest creation, us 🙂

        Unfortunately TPTB are tripping so much on their power grabs that they haven’t considered the possibility that THEY are also being played. So yes, it would be really good to see if the real thing did come down and say “you called?”



        • goshawks on October 27, 2016 at 1:02 am

          iZeta, I suspect good-guys and bad-guys can be defined (in one way) by whether they manipulate other species to be ‘more’ or to be ‘less’ than the original. Up the chain, or in chains…

          Also, the more that I soak up today’s culture, the more I suspect an AI motivation in the deep shadows. I have mentioned how ancient AIs are likely to be the continuing-remnant of long-vanished biological cultures. I suspect that one-such AI found us. Slowly, we are being ‘assimilated’ in a Borg-like way by the tech-goodies insinuating themselves in our lives.

          The path-less-taken is the one the AI probably doesn’t want us to investigate. Note what is being shut-out. The human-potential path is less and less mentioned. Substitute tech items accomplish much of the same goals, but at what long-term cost? Transhumanism is not just being Borg-ified, it is the neglect or abandonment of becoming a multi-dimensional being (over time). Think of the Stargate “Ancient” race and their division into technos and higher-humans (culminating in ascension).

          I am coming more and more to believe that we are in the midst of an invisible ‘war’ that will determine whether We are some future “greys” or some higher-beings…



        • goshawks on October 27, 2016 at 1:04 am

          iZeta, I tried to reply, but “Your comment is awaiting moderation.” Talking about AIs. Coincidence, of course…
          goshawks – October 27, 2016 at 1:02 am.



        • Roger on October 27, 2016 at 5:59 am

          Every race has these short comings.



    • Daryl Davis on October 26, 2016 at 9:01 pm

      Kahlypso, perhaps two main possibilities exist: Aliens are either enlightened and therefore have no need of us — yet wish to shepherd us away from posing a threat to the unsuspecting denizens of other planets; or they’re more or less exactly like us, i.e heirs to baffling technologies, defined by species limitations and prone to cultural or racial biases. And since aliens are unlikely to be all the same, we may find even within some species individuals more amicable than others.

      Another question: Do we actually enjoy more freedom on Earth, ironically, than we would up there — where the price of admission to the high-technology show will be our strict adherence to galactic or universal protocols? Those who first join “the show” might in fact look back at Earth as some of us have done childhood, with a quiet yearning for freedom and innocence lost.



      • goshawks on October 27, 2016 at 12:37 am

        Daryl, kudos again. A deep and ‘hmmm’-producing post. I love the mix of techno, history, and deep-questions in our little edge of the universe…



  11. Kahlypso on October 26, 2016 at 8:03 am

    Hmm, I’ve seen the Executive Order being discussed, but havent actually read through it.. until now. I like this part of it ..

    “The Secretaries of Defense, the Interior, Commerce, Transportation, Energy, and Homeland Security, along with the Administrator of NASA and the Director of NSF, shall work together, consistent with their ongoing activities, to develop models, observation systems, technologies, and approaches that inform and enhance national preparedness for the effects of space weather events, including how space weather events may affect critical infrastructure and change the threat landscape with respect to other hazards.”

    ‘Other Hazards’… are they referring to terrestrial hazards or not terrestrial hazards..

    However – getting back to this thread…
    We had noise and rumbles from Russia : http://phys.org/news/2016-08-strong-alien-life.html.. which was debunked a day later by http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/08/seti-signal-sun-like-star-hercules-aliens-life-space-science/ but for me (and therefore my opinion, that means nothing. It could easily be a Radio spike due to an industrial accident or military action. Just because its not emitting the next day doesnt mean that it wasnt emitted in the first place.

    More about KIC 8462852 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/11937177/Has-Nasas-Kepler-Telescope-spotted-signs-of-alien-life.html



  12. Kahlypso on October 26, 2016 at 6:04 am

    KIC 8462852, Dyson Spheres. Ringmakers in Saturn, Huge balls of something flying in front of our sun, Is one of Mar’s Moons artificial? Was our moon put in place by a rampaging rogue planet?…
    Artificial planets and moons…



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