THE VETO OVERRIDE: SOME HIGH OCTANE SPECULATION
Recently, as readers here are probably aware, both houses of the United States Congress voted overwhelmingly to override President Obama's veto of the measure allowing families of 9/11 victims to sue Saudi Arabia, a measure which the White House strongly opposed, and with it, the (out)house of Saud. The significance of the vote is that it is one of the rare examples in recent history when significant majorities of "both" parties were in agreement, as this CNN article makes clear:
Congress overrides Obama's veto of 9/11 bill
There were various reasons advanced for this, among them the White House's explanation that such a bill would open the possibility for foreign nationals to sue the USSA for the loss of their loved ones, in Iraq, for example, and conceivably open the door for possible criminal prosecutions. We'll get back to that in a moment. For its part, the (out)house of Saud issued its own statements of displeasure and strongly hinted that if such a measure were passed, there would be retaliation in the form of them dumping a significant amount of American debt. And implicit in that threat was the idea that "we won't buy any more, either."
But in today's high octane speculation, I have to wonder if the "reasons" being advanced by the White House and the Out House are all there is to this, or if, in fact, they constitute a smokescreen and misdirection. It would take a truly blind and irrational person not to realize that the Saudi role in 9/11 became well-known - even in the official narrative - almost immediately, and the 9/11 truth movement quickly zeroed in on this factor and subjected it to a detailed analysis, an analysis that quickly revealed that the entire event occurred during concurrent drills of the US military structure, with many of those drills mimicking the actual event itself. In other words, the whole thing had to have had at least some assistance and planning from within the US command structure. And that, of course, implies a deeper layer than just the Out House. And by now, the connections between certain American political dynasties in Texas and Arkansas and the Out House are well known. Indeed, one might look at the current meltdown in the Middle East, which Washington has engineered, as being something engineered also in the Out House with Washington apparently marching to the tune of drums from the Out House, or vice versa, or both marching to someone else's drums.
So why the concern about the bill? I strongly suspect that the real fear here is that during any such legal actions, be they from American families whose lived ones were lost in 9/11 or from foreign nationals who suffered losses because of resultant American action, that the process of discovery in such court cases could lead to the baring in a court of law of "uncomfortable facts" leading to those deeper layers, and hence, invalidating the whole official narrative in a very direct and significant way. In this respect, recall only the lawsuits between the old right-wing magazine Spotlight and Hunt, whom Spotlight had implicated as being involved in the JFK assassination. Hunt sued, and celebrated JFK assassination researcher and attorney Mark Lane defended Spotlight, and won, and during the course of the trial, was able to lay bare the the whole Warren Commission narrative as the huge disinfo op that it really was. Think, too, of the unsuccessful case of New Orleans district attorney and later judge Jim Garrison in the late 1960s, when he brought Clay Shaw to trial for involvement in the JFK assassination. While that trial was unsuccessful, again, Garrison was able to expose aspects of the official narrative in a court of law, including the first public viewing of the celebrated Zapruder film. Jurors from that trial who were later interviewed about their decision, indicated that Garrison had failed to make his case, but by the same token, they did express doubts about the official narrative and were convinced, precisely because they viewed the famous film, that a conspiracy was involved. Garrison had proved conspiracy, but simply failed to tie Shaw to it.. The result was that a significant piece of evidence - the Zapruder film itself - was pried out of the vaults of secrecy to become a public fixture of all challenges to the official narrative.
These types of considerations are, I strongly suspect, what is really behind the White House's and Out House's protestations over this bill: deeper layers are being protected. In this respect, it's worth recalling once again that former US Senator Bob Graham of Florida stated on various American news shows that the now declassified 28 page document implicated foreign governments as being involved in 911: governments, plural, not singular, and yet, in the documents we've seen, it appears that only Saudi Arabia is implicated. And that is a subtle, a disturbing, change in the narrative itself.
See you on the flip side...
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Thanks for mentioning the Garrison / Shaw case as well as the “Palace Guard” component.
Because, our generation failed to heed Judge Garrison’s warning, we enabled 911. BTW, I met the man. He was as kind as he was intelligent. If all DA’s had Jim Garrison’s compassion. The US/World would be a much better place. Garrison was overwhelmed by the shear magnitude of the conspiracy. I sometimes wonder, would he have started this historic investigation. If he had known the global implications??
The Nazi International if it were a publicly traded concern, would be worth mutliples of what it was before the JFK assassination. Now, it appears after decades of ruling from the shadows, their NWO is coming apart at the seams.. Let’s hope.. We are definitely in the throes of an End of Empire cycle. Who knows? Maybe some reality might slip through the cracks.
if my read sources are correct the House of Saud is Jewish and not Moslem-
not a criticism on my part; just an observation-
many blame 9/11 on Israel but I think there was another force behind this, a force so sinister it boggles the mind-
by the way, do read Dr. Judy Wood’s book “Where Did the Towers Go?” (if it’s still in print- books like this don’t sell very well); the twin towers collapsed at a speed slightly faster than gravity-driven speed- read the book then draw your own conclusions-
Larry in Germany
9/11 is amerikorps tyre fire. This sucker just won’t go out.
Liberty’s torch pales but 9/11 will burn on and on until it undermines all authority within USA, chaos ensues.
Classic Jesuit
Sshh
The orchestra plays on.
The theatre is packed,
and the music is still playing as orchestrated –
and written long ago.
I have had to study a bit to understand the US law of overriding a Presidential veto. It would appear that the Congressional override was largely about self-interest: no one facing election wanted to be seen as failing to do whatever could be done to give justice to the families whose family members were murdered on 9/11.
But it strikes me that there are subsets within the Republicans and the Democrats who oppose the Bush-Clinton-Saudi axis and want to see it dismantled in advance of Hillary Clinton becoming President. That is my high octane speculation at first glance, but upon deeper review I think there must be a significant number in the US House and Senate who want what is hidden in darkness brought into the light of day.
I do feel sad for you in the USA. Perhaps someone should start a last minute Ron Paul write-in campaign. I do not expect WikiLeaks to come forward with the information to sink Clinton in advance of the election. But Assange may have decided that her election is inevitable and that the best tactic is to release the most damning information in advance of her inauguration as US President.
The one most interesting thing about Ms Hill being elected would be the ‘transparency’. Let me explain:
Ms Hill has SUCH a load of blackmail material on her, coming into office, that she is absolutely, fully OWNED by TPTB. TPTB do not have to fool-around with getting-around any remaining resistance from the office-holder.
So, Ms Hill’s ‘actions’ should be a transparent-view into TPTB policies, strategic & long-term planning, misdirection, etc. Pure quill (“Lensman”-series reference). No need for any side-show, this term… (God Help Us)
Friends in Berlin are expecting Assange to release a mountain of information today in association with his presentation at the WikiLeaks anniversary celebration. Who knows what news the herald shall bring, and if he is assassinated I expect there would be such a release of information that would melt the West.
I would not hold my breath.
Also, I suspect Assange may part of “The Show.”
From 82.221.129.208/basepagei2.html :
“Clinton Foundation hacked to smithereens, released by Guccifer 2.0, hundreds of thousands of docs, get while you can! Assange was not bluffing after all!”
Call me crazy but I can’t help feeling neither Hilary nor trump will be president….
(Dramatic pause here)
Assange would go for impact. If he deemed he couldn’t get the message past amerikorps media machine he’d hold, dig deeper. OR
friends may have suggested/pointed out global stability calls for a deeper game in this context at this time.
I’m pretty sure though that Hilary still wishes she took him out with that drone.
The clone and her drone ?
I hope I’m wrong but I see this presidential election falling into complete chaos…
then what?
Larry
That small group is also available when someone needs a good lawyer or medical specialist. db
If you were one of the millions of people who were glued to your TV that day, you will remember that they knew who did it and how BY LUNCH TIME. This in itself is quite a detective story, and the main stream media gulped it up with both hands. So Saudi Arabia now has a target painted on its back, well I say who cares. Watch the replay on You Tube, there are hundreds of them, and ask your self did Saudi Arabia bring down the two towers ??? I think not. The third player in the whole game is unnamed, and in my opinion, it will never be revealed, just like the JFK murder.
Joseph: The lawsuit discovery that comes after this will almost undoubtedly vindicate your assertions in “Hidden Finance, Rogue Networks, and Secret Sorcery: The Fascist International, 9/11, and Penetrated Operations.”
Similar to U.S. not being ready or willing to admit Nazis involvement in Roswell, neither DummyCrooks nor RepubliThugs will admit that a ‘Third Level’ was involved on 9/11 (possibly the same ‘Third Level’ as in Roswell).
Military stupidity & intel ignorance were easier for our political ‘leaders’ to accept than that the U.S. had been penetrated by a ‘Third Level’ of Nazis, Rotten-Childs and/or others.
This is such a strange situation…Obama vetoes the bill and explaining his reasons for doing so, then Congress overrides it, then Mitch McConnell blames Obama for the fact that they overrode the veto. Strange goings on. That convinced me right there that something was up besides the suing element.
After reading Joseph’s books I am convinced that the breakaway civilization, or parts of it, are fully engaged here, but who are they? They have used the Arabs for their purposes since the end of WWII, so who is behind them besides the Bush dynasty, etc? I am wondering just how involved the Vatican is in all this, with their vast amount of money…that would make a lot of these lawmakers pause and reconsider their actions.
Yeah, well, after 15 years, the Saudis done-did-it 28 pages (aka the Mossad+ZioCon get out of jail free card) has finally been played.
And in the meantime, while the American public stares open-mouthed into its Iphones, the same perps have flattened the Middle East and brought the mayhen to Russia’s doorstep.
The congress critters don’t jump in such lockstep except when AIPAC wills it, so ultimately it is the very same afore-mentioned perps who are truly tossing the Suadis under the bus.
Why, and why now? Well, I’ll bet my worthless fiat money (also printed by the afore-mentioned perps — what a coincidence, that!) that the plan is that the Suadis are the ones to initiate the long-overdue financial meltdown, allowing the perps to annul the $8+ trillion Saudi oil debt and kicking off their official NWO jubilee, when the will annul all their own debts while pillaging and looting from the global peasantry the rest of what hasn’t already been pilfered or stolen since they set up the FED in 1913.
Then again, maybe its reptilians.
Wouldn’t put it past them.
Only problem?
It just might not be evil enough for their taste.
What our scheming elites worse nightmare is that these lawsuits will bring out. All their dirty laundry of mayhem, murder, destruction for profit. And lay bare the skeletons in the closets and the bodies under carpets-rugs. They live in glass houses and their victims are gathering the rocks and stones to smash them.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104×367297
Just for starters.
Extrapolating the work of Dr. Peter Dale Scott and others, it seems the Saudi “infrastructure” has been used for some time to fund various activities falling under the umbrella of weaponized Islam — going back at least as far as the Afghan mujahideen. Perhaps here, too, the Saudi covert “payments/logistics system” was rented for the purpose of prepping (or creating a legend) for 9/11. If so, a trial or multiple trials would indeed be risky to a great many people. Perhaps this is one reason why Mitch McConnell and others are already making noises about weakening the legislation during the upcoming lame duck session. In fact, the lopsided vote to pass and override suggests the fix was probably in from the beginning.
Old auntie’s top brass must have been complicit having foretold building 7s free fall. Show that clip to people and even the most ardent follower of the zombie box starts to look perplexed.
Bingo! Because there is simply no PLAUSIBLE EXPLANATION.
My observation, for what it is worth, is that anything fat with cash that is not owned or controlled by banksters inevitably gets plundered. Be it a tobacco company, a Catholic diocese, a Japanese car manufacturer, or a foreign oil producer, if you are sitting on a pile of money, you are in the cross hairs of these modern day pirates and they will use any means necessary to rob you. Eventual lawsuits against Germany for its alleged role in 9/11? Now that is chutzpah!
It’s been 15 years since 911, I would imagine that all the evidence that could possibly be destroyed, has already been destroyed. Anyone alive who could provide evidence and could be considered a liability is either dead, dying of all the toxic waste they had to deal with, or will, no doubt, “commit suicide” in some extremely questionable manner should they be called as a witness. Everyone else involved, as has been so recently proven with Hitlery, are “above the law” and immune. The MSM spin doctors have been and will, no doubt, continue working overtime on this one.
The simple fact that the “official narrative” has been disproven countless times over the years and every disinfo site still attempts to prop it up; even a significant portion of “conspiracy” sites still tend to prop up portions of it unwittingly; just goes to prove how much propaganda and disinfo has been pumped onto a witless public.
If you shout a lie loud enough for a long enough time, most will accept is as truth.
I have my own suspicions on who, ultimately, may be responsible, and it involves a small, recently created nation whose population has been kicked out of every nation of which they have ever been a part for good reason.
One should never argue with an idiot, politician, or the MSM; they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
WalkingDead: “…a small, recently created nation whose population has been kicked out of every nation of which they have ever been a part for good reason.”
This kicked-off a plausible scenario: What if all the Truth is being allowed to come to a head because that nation (really, the shadowy figures behind it) has finally gotten a way off-planet? Either enough SSP-ships or a big-enough portal. That way, when the crowds with pitchforks show up, the last-gargoyle-out can give the crowd the middle finger and, chortling, lift-off or go ‘poof’.
Or, to quote Basta on the above, “Then again, maybe its reptilians” lifting-off…
One can only hope…