CHINA JOINS SPACE RACE TO TEST EM DRIVE
Over the holidays many important stories emerged, and I hope to be covering them this week prior to New Year's, but one of those stories was China's announcement that it has already been testing the so-called EM drive in space. This story was shared by many regular readers here, but here are two versions, and they both come with a lot of caveats:
Chinese boffins: We're testing an 'impossible' EM Drive IN SPAAAACE
China claims it's already started testing an EM Drive in space
Let's look at the caveats for a moment, as expressed by Fiona MacDonald in the second article's opening five paragraphs:
The whole world got excited last month when NASA published the first peer-reviewed paper on the 'impossible' electromagnetic, or EM, Drive, which appears to somehow defy physics by producing thrust without a propellant.
Their verdict was that it seems to work, although a lot of physicists still think the results are flawed. But now researchers in China have announced that they've already been testing the controversial drive in low-Earth orbit, and they're looking into using the EM Drive to power their satellites as soon as possible.
Big disclaimer here - all we have to go on right now is a press conference announcement and an article from a government-sponsored Chinese newspaper (and the country doesn't have the best track record when it comes to trustworthy research).
So until we see a peer-reviewed paper, we really can't say for sure whether the researchers are even testing the drive in space, let alone what their results have shown.
But what the China Academy of Space Technology (CAST) team is saying also corresponds with information provided to IB Times from an anonymous source. According to their informant, China already has an EM Drive on board its version of the International Space Station, the space laboratory Tiangong-2.
Lack of published data or "peer review" notwithstanding, it stretches my credulity to believe that China would not investigate an EM drive, nor attempt to do so as quickly as possible in space. A little over a half a century ago, then Senate Democratic Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson stated it best when he said that whoever holds the strategic high ground, by which he meant space, wins. It was a geopolitical maxim he was well aware of and unfailingly pursued both as a Senator, then Vice President and finally President. The Russians understood this (and still do), and the Chinese, by their announcements of various goals for their space program, clearly do as well.
As such, any technology that promises to give an advantage to any space power will, perforce, be investigated by them. What is interesting is the claims - still repeated - that the EM drive somehow either violates the principles of physics, or operates on as yet unknown principles. We'll get back to that claim in a moment. What intrigues is that both articles mention that the Chinese have apparently zeroed in on the geometry of the cavity itself, testing various shapes and dimensions to see if these improve or impede the efficiency of the device; as Iian Thomson notes in the first article:
China is trying out different shapes for the reaction chamber of the drive to see which generates the most thrust. It's clear that the country is taking the EM Drive seriously and wants to get one operational as soon as possible.
"This technology is currently in the latter stages of the proof-of-principle phase, with the goal of making the technology available in satellite engineering as quickly as possible," said Li Feng, chief architect of the China National Space Technology Institute's communications satellite division, at the press conference.
The EM drive, according to its inventor, British engineer Roger Sawyer, maintains the physics is completely known; all he did was to apply it:
(For the record, it should be noted that like many, Mr. Sawyer gives an incorrect version of Einstein's famous equation, E=mc^2, whereas in reality, Einstein expressed the mass component as a Mass Difference, M, and not simply mass, m, and therefore the correct version is E=Mc^2).
In any case, the real question becomes rather why the device is continually said be be operating either in contradiction to known physics or operating by unknown principles. Correlative with this question, is the question of why NASA seems to be dragging their feet if, indeed, China is pressing ahead? One answer is that perhaps NASA has already been quietly and secretly testing the device in space. In this respect it is worth recalling that Dr. Paul LaViolette, in his seminal work Secrets of Anti-Gravity Propulsion, mentioned 1950s tests of NASA and the US Air Force testing microwave propulsion systems, and according to one anecdotal story that he relates, these experiments were successful. The other possibility is that NASA, like China, has actually been paying attention to what Mr. Sawyer said about his own device, which clearly emphasizes the cavity shape or geometry itself as a function of the device's thrust.
So what's the bottom line here? What's the speculation of the day?
This is where it gets interesting. The EM drive is a publicly known technology, one not relying on standard chemical rockets. Mr. Sawyer clearly perceived his invention as a means of satellite propulsion, and China clearly does as well, and the implications cannot be lost on other space agencies, for note in Mr. Sawyer's presentation, the EM drive has been tested at various universities. What this signals is that there is already a quiet new space race shaping up, one concentrating on very different types of propulsion technologies than we've become accustomed to so far, i.e., chemical rockets. As I've said many times, all the talk about mining asteroids and so on using chemical rockets simply isn't very "cost efficient," and some other means has to be found to do so.
What all this boils down to is simply this: we've seen various private space corporations become reality in the past few years, developing their own chemical rocket booster systems and launch facilities. But watch for these corporations to begin making announcements (a few have already done so in tentative fashion) that they are establishing their own private corporate "exotic propulsion" departments of research. One might expect some of them to pick up on DARPA's stated goal of making the USA "warp capable" in a century, and begin their own proof of concept experiments in Dr. Harold "Sonny" White's warp drive theories.
And when can we expect all this to be announced?
I suspect we will see more of these types of announcements in the coming year.
See you on the flip side...
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Holy .. there isnt 1 comment on this thread that isnt a full blown novel.. Will have to read back through them. Just posted this on community Activity.. Seems extremely relevant here.. http://www.theeventchronicle.com/science/china-plans-land-probes-far-side-moon-mars-2020/
I remember someone somewhere going on about ships being destroyed around Mars because of the fuel that the vehicule has carrying…….. found it……. http://www.pravdareport.com/science/mysteries/05-03-2008/104375-boriska_boy_mars-0/#at_pco=smlre-1.0&at_si=571da7cb5753d83d&at_ab=per-2&at_pos=0&at_tot=4
“Martians transmit special signals to destroy stations containing harmful radiation,” Boriska replied.”
I’m thinking of Phobos I and II here.. (the russian mars probes, not the moon.) Perhaps the EM drive has to be used to ensure that the Igigi wont blow us back into componant parts..
The Chinese news channel did explain the launch of the quantum communication satellite does not mean the transporter technology from Star Trek is available anytime soon, it does however claim (citing a Chinese scientist) that quantum physics in theory would eventually allow instant transportation/teleportation of a human from one point in space to another.
the news piece says in the end, “although the quantum communication satellite is only the begining, but in the future, things like (the transporter technology).. might not be as unimaginable.”
incidentally, the news piece is titled “The quantum communication satellite initiated first voyage of star trek”
Two thoughts: The Chinese are both pragmatic and have strong ‘loss of face’ avoidance.
On ‘loss of face’, I would suspect the Chinese head honchos to wring the hell out of any advanced thruster before making any public announcement. The would KNOW it works before making any official peep. So, for them to be announcing it works is as good as taking it to the bank…
On pragmatism, the Chinese are way ahead of the West in this regard. Do it, and see if it works. Experiment with it, much like Michael Faraday did with electricity. Or, like Thomas Edison did with lightbulb filaments. Get useful data. Use that to inform your theories, not vise versa…
(I don’t know much about international patents, but wouldn’t it be a kick if the Chinese locked-up patent rights on advanced versions of these thrusters?)
Great insights goshawks… thanks for sharing them. I agree with you: for them to make an announcement there has to be more up with it than meets the eye.
@”Two thoughts: The Chinese are both pragmatic and have strong ‘loss of face’ avoidance.”
The irony in this assessment is that one seems to forget the Chinese did not have the “sputnik moment”, in fact, Sukarno tried to form a “Jakarta-Beijing” alliance just to throw an alternative to the polarity of “Cold War” dominated by Washington and Moscow.
If by “loss of face” one means lacking behind the West in technological progress, the Chinese have been “losing face” ever since the founding of the Qing dynasty 3oo years ago.
if one reads Robert Temple, article like “The Modern World : A joint creation of China and the West”,
one understands the real reason behind the Chinese scientific stagnation over the past centuries, was “man-made” instead of a “natural” one,
that is to say its due to the long period of foreign occupation, invasion, internal conflicts, social unrests etc,
but it all started with the “Jesuit conquest of China” in the 17th century with the establishment of the Manchu regime,
before that the Chinese were one of the most innovative civilizations on earth(a comparable example is the Greeks under the subjugation of the Ottoman Turks),
though no “scientific racism” ever occured in over a thousand years of period where the civilization had technological/scientific edges, as opposed to the West where scientific racism, one of the byproducts of modern scientific advancement in the West, is still influencing the mentality of the Westerners to this days.
What Robert Temple didnt say is the role “Western Christian religion” played in China’s scientific progress, (as it once did with Middle-Age Europe, and is still doing it with “Vatican presence” in America’s space programs.)
But Temple is right about post-Deng China, which marked the ending of the social condition that had once halted the country from producing world impacting scientific innovations for over 300 years, meaning if one understands Chinese and world scientific history, one should expect the Chinese to start produce again in the scientific field.
That is also to say “Jesuit/Western” infiltration and undermining of the civilization has reached historical lowest level since the 17th century conquest.
Recent Chinese scientific advancement like this are increasingly becoming characteristics of “post-Xi” era,
that is to say the post-Tiananmen West sanction in 1989, which witnessed not only the establishment of relationship between China and Israel but evidences of Israeli lobbying/influencing the country’s leader and its media has effectively phased out as well,
resulting in “greater” scientific progress as opposed to scientific sabotages.
The “pragmatism” in scientific advancement thus, has nothing to do with “loss of face”.
But being “non-Christian” culture, does distinct China from the West, in the sense that despite the West making strides in the scientific field in recent memories, it is still entangled in old mentality of “religious crusade”, now changed its name to “anti-terror” wars, or “clash of civilizations”, or perhaps WW3 against ETs,
but in essence, its the same old same old game, that means one should expect the same old same old religious fanaticism behind the scenes, still pulling the strings.
I agree henry witness the stagnation of the indigenous people of the Americas. The people who created maize potatoes terra negro among other useful things to the world.
henry, the two ‘thoughts’ were not linked. The pragmatism and the ‘loss of face’ avoidance were separate.
On ‘loss of face’, this referred to the ‘generic’ sense of anger and shame experienced if one were one-upped, or shown to be wrong on some issue. While a human trait in general, the Asian cultures have been known to be very sensitive on this point. Applied to the EM Drive, this would have resulted in the Chinese being very cautious in proclaiming that it works. They would not have wanted to suffer ‘loss of face’ if it turned-out not to work after making a public announcement. Hence, they would have tested it thoroughly before making any official statement. That was my point…
It is true that China never had a modern ‘Sputnik’ moment. However, Admiral Zheng He gave China a similar experience in the 15th century. Zheng He built-up a magnificent Chinese ‘trading’ fleet that reached at least to the eastern African coast, and possibly around the world. (Since Zheng He’s logs were publicly burned – see below – we will have to wait until his Emperor’s pyramidal tomb is finally opened and studied. It is possible that a duplicate copy, or other ‘proof’, was placed in this tomb.)
At that point, China’s pragmatically-developed expertise was far-beyond the rest of the world, in many ways. (I have read Temple’s book.) Had Chinese leaders wanted to make the effort, they could have become the next Roman Empire, so to speak. Europe was still barbaric, in comparison.
However, a reactionary, insular leadership-group took-over after the Emperor’s death. They destroyed Zheng He’s fleet and burned his logs. They turned China inward. No ‘outsider’ contact was allowed. It was not a ‘Dark Ages’ situation, but it was stagnant.
Gradually the fruits of Chinese pragmatism slowly filtered-out to the West. Meanwhile, China ‘slept’ – technologically – for hundreds of years. Eventually, the up-to-speed Westerners came East and subjugation ensued. In essence, the Chinese did it to themselves. (If this was not Anunnaki ‘dragon’ doings…)
The good news is that the modern Chinese leadership seems to be re-engaging with the world. This has re-engaged the pragmatic ‘impulse’ in the Chinese sciences. While the West is mired in scientific ‘political correctness’, pragmatic research by China has the chance to leap-ahead once more…
@”henry, the two ‘thoughts’ were not linked. The pragmatism and the ‘loss of face’ avoidance were separate.”
i know, perhaps i didnt express myself clearly, i apologize if i made a confusion, what i intended to say is the social condition now has provide the Chinese to scientifically progress once again regardless of what the outside world may interpret it, once the social condition is there, the civilization will produce again, something similar to what was said in Robert Temple’s opening.
@”However, a reactionary, insular leadership-group took-over after the Emperor’s death. They destroyed Zheng He’s fleet and burned his logs. They turned China inward. No ‘outsider’ contact was allowed. It was not a ‘Dark Ages’ situation, but it was stagnant.”
I believe that’s actually a popular “myth”, the first six voyages were conducted under Yongle emperor, its true after the main halls in the Forbidden City were completely destroyed by “fires from sky”, conservative officials seized the opportunity as “a sign of heaven’s disapproval” to force the emperor to abandon the voyages, the demoralized emperor died soon after and his first son inheriting the throne was a conservative, so during his short-reign the voyages were stopped, but when Yongle’s other son inherited his brother’s throne, the Xuande emperor was even more ambitious than his father, the largest fleet was assembled under his reign, and it was during the Seventh voyage, that supposedly the Chinese were reaching all out to far places like New Zealand, and the Americas,
however recent evidences suggest the fleet had been devastated by huge tsunami possibly caused by meteor strike near New Zealand, so what really stopped the Chinese voyages (thus effectively changed world history) was yet another “natural calamity”.
Also, the ending of Zheng He’s voyages doesnt mean the Chinese stopped their scientific progress, far from it, the late Ming Chinese were especially open to technological progress, that they began to adopting certain western firearms that were superior to native ones, and they were starting to further develop these technology on their own, certain surviving Ming records are now indicating far more advanced weapons were been developed during the late Ming period, and the dynasty was on the verge of becoming the first nation to arm its military with exclusively gun-power based weaponry,
but yet another mysterious “natural calamity” just happened to have struck the “armory” in the Capital city, the equivalent of two atomic bombs rocked the Capital Beijing,
to these days, the so called “Capital explosions” during the late Ming is still an unsolved mystery to researchers, there were reports of mysterious “fireball” coming out of a building and flew straight towards sky, “unnatual” movement of “fireballs” were also recorded during the destruction of the palace halls during Zheng He’s time where it prompted temporary hold of the voyages.
The greatest “destruction” of records and scientific and technological achievements were not done by the Ming, its just a “Myth” postulating in the West to explain its modern scientific ascendancy, it was actually done by the Manchu conquerors, at a time when the Jesuits were honored guests in the Manchu court, and you think thats a coincidence?
Chinese encyclopedia like Tian Gong kai Wu (The Exploitation of the Works of Nature) documenting various aspects of scientific achievements were actually banned in China, the Chinese only relearned its existence many years later through the existence of foreign copies. Such is the state of “scientific environment” or “social condition” under the rule of the Manchus.
So, Robert Temple is absolutely correct in his given reason that the Chinese were more or less reduced to “slave status” during the entire Qing period, much like that of the Greeks under the Ottomans, they were simply unable to function normally as a civilization.
So, the assertion that “In essence, the Chinese did it to themselves.” is absolutely a gross disregard for history i have to say.
@”If this was not Anunnaki ‘dragon’ doings…”
acutally, one of the theory for the mystery of the late “Ming Capital explosions” was indeed “alien attack”,
if you read Cobra’s intel, he once said the Ming dynasty posed as a “threat” to the West.
The demise and decline of the last native Chinese dynasty certainly benifited the West, where no viable technological adversary was there to compete with it. And Cobra’s intel also confirms my own suspicion that the Qing was absolutely a ‘Jesuit conquest/ocupation of China”, that effectively allowed the West to leap ahead in science and technology over the next centuries.
as for “Dragons”, this is my thoughts on Chinese dragons, based on my study of ancient artifacts
“archaeological evidences suggest later Chinese “dragons” in the early dynastic(Shang) period are directly descended from “Pig dragons” found in the “Hongshan culture”, the original form of the ‘pig dragon was basically a “serpent”, and “serpent cult” is an ancient “world-wide phenomenon” found not just in ancient China.
one particular form of jade ritual object from that culture is called “xuan ji”, its shape is composed of two aspects, a “Bi” (which represents the “Heaven”), and three protruded parts along the round edge of the “Bi” in a “rotating” motion, (like that of a swastika perhaps), and these protruded parts are often depicted as “dragons”.
if you look at the shape of our galaxy as well as all the galaxies out there in the Universe, they actually shaped like coiled serpents, and all doing “rotation, rotation”, which is called “torsion” according to Richard Hoagland.
prior to the rise of “dragon/serpent” cult in human cultures worldwide, “spirals” carved in stones were found all over the world instead, and according to Giorgio Tsoukalos what these ancient spirals carved in stones by early humans represent was the “galaxy”.
the use of the serpents as cultural motiff was probably a continuation of the ancient “spiral” tradition.
Also found in Hongshan culture(not to mention this is the culture the signs of “Taoism” first emerged) were jade figurines depicting half-human and half-serpent beings which in Chinese tradition are associated with “the spirtual, divine and the creator beings”.
Graham Hancock’s “Ayahuasca experience” in South America shows that “serpents” and half-serpent and half human “spirits” are often present during the shamanistic hallucinogen induced state, which strongly suggests the serpentine beings from Hongshan culture were the result of similar “hallucinatory experience”/shamanistic practice by ancient Chinese Shamans as well,
and like the ancient “spirals” in stones and the “serpents”, “Shamanism” was also a “world-wide phenomenon”.
interestingly, the double helix can also be viewed as result of the “torsion”, which could explain why ancient Chinese depictions of “Nuwa” and “Fuxi”, “the creators of mankind”, not only as half-serpent and half-human beings, but the serpentine part of their bodies were entwined together in such a fashion that it looked exactly like the shape of human DNA.
so my suspicion is that what the “dragons/serpents” really represent, culturally speaking, is the “Cosmic force of creation”, this force is responsible not only for our creation, but also our galaxy and other galaxies.”
henry, thanks for the extended history lesson. Chinese history is not my specialty, so I appreciate all the additional details. I was aware of the Manchu conquest, but not of the Jesuit influence. Something to ponder…
Reading about the three ‘cataclysms’ that changed Chinese history (the main halls in the Forbidden City destroyed by “fires from sky” after six exploratory voyages, the renewed-fleet devastated by a huge tsunami possibly caused by a meteor strike near New Zealand [I read about that], and the so called “Capital explosions” during the late Ming) with modern eyes, it does make me wonder: Were these all just random, natural occurrences or was it ‘enemy action’? We’ll never know, but that was my first thought…
It is interesting to combine the Chinese literature/history that you have mentioned with the Sumerian cuneiform record. The Sumerians, along with the Indus Valley civilization in India, insist on ‘real gods’ walking among them and plenty of advanced technology. Chinese history also talks of dragons/serpents in the sky and Emperors descended from dragons/serpents. To me, the sum of evidence indicates advanced-beings among us in early periods, perhaps extending-through to today in a more ‘background’ role.
If there were ‘factions’ among these beings (or several races ‘dueling’ for Earth), those ‘cataclysms’ may have been related-to these beings shaping human history for their own purposes. In Sumer, we have the Enlil versus Enki leadership contest, often played-out with human blood. I am curious whether Chinese history shows a similar ‘internal division’, or perhaps a mighty foe (of ‘divine’ nature) that disliked China…
Thanks again for much to think about.
the chinese dont understand what intellectual property means.
they’ll certainly be ill placed to get on a moral high horse about plaigarism and copyright infringement.
I am reading Giza Death Star Deployed again and this poem might be of interest to Joseph as he covers literature references to the Pyramids and Giza with aplomb.
William Butler Yeats (1865-1939)
THE SECOND COMING
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: a waste of desert sand;
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
Could the “shape with lion body and the head of a man,” be the Father of Terrors or at least his legacy starting to stir?
Could the “rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?” be the unified physics that was forgotten and is about to be (re)discovered.
I know the “could it be” Socratic questioning makes me sound like the Ancient Aliens narrator 🙂
As an addendum to this comment I should point out that W. B. Yeats was also a high level member of Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. Curiouser and curiouser 🙂
In the near future, one will have reality and fools bumping into each other in some personal virtual reality world with a silly jigga magick on their noses.
Good times ahead for the few staying in reality and see real magic enroll before their real eyes.
You left out TT Brown and John Searle research in the fifties and their propulsion systems. Lets face neither Verne or Wells thought much of rockets as a way to explore space economically or safely. EM drive looks to be one of many propulsion systems that will achieve that goal. I wish the Chinese all the best in their research into this technology.
Expect for the private fascist corporations to blow the public dust their EM drives by setting the scopolamine drip[50’s truth serum] of reality up a notch or two when it comes to the corporate fascist reality on the science side of the NWO[established 1944 at Bretton Wood when they set up the corporate fascism infrastructure]conglomerate’s ledger. Meanwhile back in fantasy land[sheeple’s manufactured reality(bla, bla, baa, baa, bla , bla) by corporate fascist news] the beat…, er, the continuous river of dis/mis information rages steadily all around us.
The Continuous river of dis/mis information rages steadily on all around us.
Aaaw.. The liddle EM drive bwoke your laws of physics.. Guess we didnt understand the laws of physics well enough.
Ah yes.. there was a mistake in the calculations…We’re sending ET home as we speak. But we dont know why it works..Turn on the CERN and hook it up to the satellites that Space X are sending up there. (With the new improved Sony EMagination Drive on board) Use them to EM wave bounce Planet X back into the outer stellars and see if we dont get flipped like a pancake in the process..
Shouldn’t “liddle” read widdle? 😉
it would all be so wonderful if we were really informed about the intentions of people and nations and the level of technology available. but we are not. it seems now that we are the best programmed and controlled population that has ever lived on this earth. and we revel in it! give us that 70″ tv virtual reality simulation gmo enhanced junkburger [supersized] energydrink smartphone Bluetooth connected [I could go on…] and gee my life just got better! don’t worry that those funny clouds over us are the latest in warfare-they are just another way of ridiculing and denigrating us that the world sees as the tinfoil hat brigade. [but I digress…thanks for putting up with that folks] the observation I want to throw out for your consideration is that there appears to have been no technological since about 1947 when the invention of the transistor was announced. [I will give you that a possible exception would be the laser/maser but I have not studied its history in any depth] all of the technologies that are mainstream are simply applications of old ideas for the purpose of waging war more efficiently [read profitably] from the development of the sewing machine to produce uniforms and the lathe to produce guns to the stealth technology [german] to counter radar [british] and again I could go on…. the thrust of this is that we do not have a clue what is going on in the places of the advanced technology developers nor can we understand the motivations behind the keepers of same. consider that technology has continued on an even linear rate since then what there must be in the possession of thems what lord over us! while it would be nice to think that the world is a Disneyesque place of rainbows and unicorns the reality is that behind that façade old walt has had gmo implants of the horns of the 7 headed hydra of ….[sorry..i digressed again but the butter for my toast was hard this morning!] for the simple purpose of better controlling us. I do hope that some of this higher tech stuff trickles down to make our lives better-just think how much satisfaction the home handyman derives from the Apollo development of WD-40! [with due consideration given to the Apollo mission was derived from a program of how to more efficiently kill the enemy and enhance profits for the bankrollers of the technology] so I guess what I am saying here is we really have no clue how far this technology has gone but I suspect it is way beyond our wildest imaginings. little snippets turn up like the phoenix lights and ufos in general and haarp and chemtrails and we get to be the subjects of the disdain from the mainstream as being of the aforementioned tinfoil hat wearers with the catcalls of being conspiracy theorists [oh-update! fake news purveyors] so joseph…please continue to do what you can to pull back the curtain!
So true bear.
Look where they’re trying to go…
Thanks for the link Robert 1984 is coming a way bit late but it still coming.
Coming on like a hellbound train.
Lasers and masers.. new technology..??? I’m sure Archimedes would have something to say about that.. 🙂 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_glass
Feels good getting it off your chest eh? Keep your eyes on the Fake Mews..I think it’s starting to backfire on them..
Yes that about sums up the situation!
If Mars is the legendary home planet of caucasian people, their promised land (and I don’t rule out that these legends could have been manufactured ages ago by refugees of the cosmic war who were anticipating the future return to space and wanted to prime caucasians with a territorial ideology in advance) is there a planet that the Asian people can call home? They seem very fond of the Moon. Will they one day claim this as their ancestral homeland? Or will they leave the door open and claim whatever planet they can one day reach that has the most mineral wealth? Perhaps they will one day claim the asteroid belt was their birth home and declare it off limits to non-Asians, even adopting the theory that their planet was destroyed by the descendants of Mars. Will the Chinese even carve out a special victim status for themselves, vehemently push this new status in the UN and in the universities, and demand reparations and special protected status both on Earth and in space? Only time will tell.
If the Chinese’s future-homes are already occupied, will they push the ancestral-population into small enclaves? And then, with time, will they start to build ‘settlements’ into those enclaves? If the Chinese are REALLY good at propoganda, will they even manufacture some way of presenting themselves as ‘the good guys’ while slowly exterminating the ancestral-population?
I wonder if Trump and his advisors will reverse decades of US policy which enabled China industrially and militarily, both overtly and covertly, and instead initiate a new US policy which will attempt to contain China? Would the Russians, maybe secretly, be on board with this? Do the Russians still have terrifying memories of the dreadful race war they fought against the invading Asiatic hordes from Mongolia where the Russians had to submit to their brutal rule for nearly 200 years? Would our military hawks and pentagon supercomputers maybe even determine it is better to fight China now rather than later when the Chinese are even more prepared for war? Would the supercomputers tell Trump that, considering the growth of human population, the limited resources, and the overall violent, racial and territorial nature of the human animal, that it would be better for caucasians to initiate a war now against our Asian rivals while we have military supremacy? Could the supercomputers even convince us that humans are so greedy and possessive that they can’t even share something as expansive as outer space? Could the supercomputers in fact just be initiating a global race war to pave the war for the takeover by machine?
Then the question arises: does the United States actually have military supremacy or are our naval fleets sitting ducks? I for one believe they are protected by force field technology and the allowance of flyovers by Russian fighter jets is just a ruse. (Hard to believe the Pentagon would be dumb enough to continue building war ships in light of current missile technology unless they had a trick up their sleeve, but DC is pretty darn corrupt and that and hubris is usually what takes down empires). Would it be a wiser foreign policy to just continue to pit the Asian countries against each other and keep the whole region divided? Should Trump worry about the CIA aligning themselves firmly with China now and possibly even the Deep State turning over much of their war technology to the Han people in order to thwart Trump and Russia? (Could we even see Trump Tower NY disintegrated by a space based energy weapon just like the twin towers? This might be the surest way for the Deep State to rid themselves of Trump). Ultimately, doesn’t our inhuman deep state and China have much more in common philosophically and wouldn’t a marriage between the two serve both their agendas magnificently? Perhaps China could allocate one of their man-made South China Sea islands to be the new headquarters of our Deep State in the Trumpic Age where the Deep State can continue to plot their solar system wide conquest, now with the help of the desperately expansionist Chinese.
In the above scenario the Pentagon’s plotting “supercomputers” can just as easily be replaced with Trump’s “zionist advisors.”
Loved your last few lines of conclusion!
Ah, yes. A more-subtle version of SkyNet…
Also, I have wondered about the Western PTB offshoring most of the their physical manufacturing capability to China, et al. They had to have known that this would come back to bite them. (It is like a major contractor such as Boeing that offshores most of its plane-building capability and just keeps design & logistics in-house. Sooner or later, the major subcontractors look around and see that the Emperor has no clothes. They can built the pieces AND assemble the plane, as well.) The PTB are not stupid. What were/are their game-plans to address this aspect?
Oh, and I prefer to think of “our inhuman deep state” as “our unhuman deep state” or “our nonhuman deep state.” We will soon see how literal this is…
@”Would the supercomputers tell Trump that, considering the growth of human population, the limited resources, and the overall violent, racial and territorial nature of the human animal, that it would be better for caucasians to initiate a war now against our Asian rivals while we have military supremacy? Could the supercomputers even convince us that humans are so greedy and possessive that they can’t even share something as expansive as outer space? Could the supercomputers in fact just be initiating a global race war to pave the war for the takeover by machine?”
the “AI” devil has no regard for “race”, since its not even a human. “race issues” are for humans to consume, only been used and exploited for certain agendas.
it has destroyed countless worlds, planets and star systems, all result of “war”, be it religion, ideology or resources scarcity, etc
the oil economy is a lie, the oil scarcity is lie build on a lie, and the Middle East oil war(also known as the “anti-terror war” in its religous variation) is a lie build on another lie, all these lies are created just to chess move the world into an “armageddon” theatre which would be triggered by a nuclear conflict in the M.E.
its like a virus, it infects human and non human cultures alike and turn them into something that would eventually destroy life itself in that biosphere(in this case planet earth), regardless of “races”, even species on a planet.
and there is a reason for the “AI” to chess move this world into a global nuclear armageddon scenario, a reason that’s most likely beyond the physical realm, as what makes a human “human” is more than mere flesh and blood, but also mind and spirit, the “trumatic damage” would be far more worse than the physical destruction of the two Japanese cities, perhaps, without higher intervention, the damage would be irreversible.
like the “skynet” in Terminator, “Cylons” in Battlestar Galactic, “Borg” in Star Trek, “Taylor” in Extant, even “the little girl” in Resident Evil. etc
even featured as “savior of mankind” against “evil ET invaders” in the new Independence movie..
and a “devil’s horn” in the Matrix,
not to mention, that M made “horns” over Donal Trump’s head on the Time magazine’s cover, “man of the year” it says. “Trump” is just a “chess piece” and more than likely he doesnt even know it.
speaking of “Trump”, the same day a phone call between Taiwan’s president and president-elect Trump which has caused a diplomatic spar between the U.S. and China, “old friend” Henry Kissinger just happened to visit Beijing to meet with Chinese leader,
i’m sure, people like Kerry Cassidy can use this as an “evidence” to say China is just another side of the coin for the “New World Order”(btw, so called NWO is a lie too),
except only 2-3 days after Kissinger left the Chinese capital, the air quality of the city jumped from “good” to “red alert” in an instant as a sudden wave of smogs rolled into the city from outside source like a thundercloud suddenly moved in and changed weather pattern drastically, this time its the worst in years, not just for the Capital, over 180 Chinese cities, covering some 1.9 million km² area of the country all covered in heavy smogs for days, the municipality authority of Beijing are so “baffled” by the phenomenon they have just controversially categorized the “smog” into “natural calamity” which has caused discontent and outcry from scientists and lawyers alike, but i think the authority has been “genuine”, in the sense they really have “no control” over this phenomenon no matter what they do, and have no idea what caused it either.
It is equally easy to claim Evelyn de Rothschild actually is the one running China since he too visited the country back in 2011, except ofcourse when he was in Beijing, the country’s mid-west(a rich crop production region since ancient times) part was experiencing a worst draught in decades, and this pattern is repeated with Henry Kissinger’s visit.
but one should look at the NASA photo of last year’s heavy smog over China, occured exactly at the time of Climate Conference in Paris, but its not just the “timing” of the “smog” thats suspicious, but also its peculiar “shape”, as the smog “concentrated” in the “middle” area of the country, in such fashion it looked like a “straight line”, stretching all the way from north-east to south-west,
since when do “air pollution” have “geometric patterns”.
not to mention, just 2-3 days before Henry Kissinger’s visit, the Chinese scientists have announced that they are on the verge of finding a way to potentially combat any deadly virus in the future, like SARS, Ebola, Swine flu, i’m sure this is just another coincidence.
so “Trump presidency”, It seems William Engdahl is the only one who really gets it, but even he misses the big elephant in the room.
“The patriarch” as William calls them, are just “following orders” from a “super intelligence”, kind of like what was depicted in the TV show “Person of interests”, aka “Samaritan AI”, the “Jew world order” is just the cover story and a lie too.
Now, “transhumanism” suddenly makes sense, the urge of fusing man with machines, as do many of the ugly “inhuman” and “unhuman” phenomena in this world, historical and present, if its inhuman/unhuman, the origin of it is probably really “inhuman/unhuman”.