NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM DEC 1, 2016

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This may be the first case of a "you tell me" News and Views in quite a while, because rather than talking about President-elect Trump, or Pizzagate, or any of that, we're going to be talking about Antarctica and the VERY strange goings on there, this time, with former Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin:

http://time.com/4587138/buzz-aldrin-south-pole-evacuation/

And here's the NBC version of the story:

Astronaut Buzz Aldrin Medically Evacuated From South Pole

 

From Buzz Aldrin's Tweet: Note the Russian aircraft
From Buzz Aldrin's Tweet: Note the Russian aircraft

67 thoughts on “NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM DEC 1, 2016”

  1. @”because rather than talking about President-elect Trump, or Pizzagate”

    David Wilcock just wrote a new article titled “ENDGAME: Disclosure and the Final Defeat of the Cabal”

    and this is my reply:

    “The 2016 U.S. election” is perhaps one of the biggest PSYOP in human history, Trump’s “victory” is nothing but further evidence that the “Samaritan” AI is still in control of things on planet earth.

    With Trump’s incoming advisers all apparently pro-Israel and anti-Iran at the same time, the real “endgame”, the age-long satanic prophecy of “armageddon”, which would be sparked by a nuclear conflict in the M.E.
    remains a present danger and well on its way to happening with the dangerous deception called “Trump Presidency”.

    Obama is the first and only U.S. president, in its decades long special relation with the Zionist regime, that has ever angered Israeli leader by preparing to recognize a “Palestinian state”, by sealing the “Iranian nuclear deal”, which angered Netanyahu so much that he stared for 44 seconds during the UN Assembly.

    Yet, the “showman” and “con job” that is “Trump” warned Obama not to intervene in his “ultimate solution to palestine-Israel relation” reflect only a fact that the man is surrounded by pro-Israel personnels, and by scrapping Iran deal, a move that not only pleases Netanyahu but opened the possibility of even more dangerous military conflict in the M.E.

    And its truly bewildering to see David investing this amount of energy into the so called “pizzagate”, but completely ignores the obvious role Julian Assange’s WikiLeaks played during this election, and not be alarmed by the fact the phony “anti-Imperialist” organization is in fact an Israeli intelligence front.

    The fact that the likes of David Wilcock and Benjamin Fulford, are now vigorously helping to legitimize this “Trump deception”, goes to show only one thing, that is how manipulative and calculating this “Samaritan” AI is.
    Until Trump put Netanyahu on a War Crime Tribunal, and make peace with Iran, only a delusional man truly believe he’s the “Savior of America”, let alone the “Savior of the World”.

    Please David, spare us, the rest of the world of this deceptive narrative, and leave it to yourselves, the “dumbed down” people of America, whom are clearly still under the thumbs of same sinister forces that murdered J.F.K.

    Blackwater Mercenaries ready to quiet any “anti-Trump” protests in the country, really?
    so we categorize an Asian mom and her 10 years old son protesting against “racism” as “Hillary thug” now?

    its truly amazing to see both David Wilcock and Benjamin Fulford, once great “truth seekers”, have now descended into a mouthpiece for the incoming fascism in America.

  2. Doctors in some countries, like South Korea, e.g., prescribe Viagra-style drugs to help treat altitude sickness among president’s aides and security staff ahead of trips to far off lands of high elevation.

  3. The last 150 years have seen us go from the horse and buggy to man on the moon and satellites in interstellar space. To believe the masses can’t handle the truth is absurd. Our grandparents seemed to handle it just fine, what they got of it anyway. It’s never been about truth, it’s always been about control.

  4. Dag from Ringerike

    This is a very intriguing issue. Something is going on there. I know Harry Cooper, who is running the Sharkhunters webside and organization, is having plans to go to Queen Mauds Land to investigate any traces or signs of activity down there from the German Antarctic expedition, was it in 1938?

    The Piri Reis Map shows a coastline, rivers and valleys of Queen Mauds Land. And what Charles Hapgood showed, in his book, it was a compilation of several maps, and with clever understanding of the confuguration of the Earth.

    So the Antarctic continent must have been partly ice free or glacier free for som time. One clue.

    The other clue is. I remember, when I read the book of D.S. Allan and J.B. Delair, “Cataclysm”, they referred to scientific study that showed that sediments on the seabord out of Qeen Mauds land had signatures of clays and sands from a period of benign climate. I think, if I remember correctly it was happenning about 5000 to 7000 years ago. Sorry, I tried to find the page and the refernce tonight, but this book is so jampacked with information that I have to read it again.

    So, it is obviously that Antarctica had a climate that could support settlements.

    D.S.Allan and J.B.Delair are writing about a cataclysme that occurred about 9.500 BC and what Graham Hancock is also concurring to.

    But, there is another cataclysmic event that maybe was occurring several thousand years later, and this is described in the “Oera Linda Book”. A book that was, after it appeared, as an old Frisian scripture, and — it was “determined” by the Dutch scollars at the time (about 150 years ago) as a hoax.

    This autumn I have read the book, written by the South African author Alewyn J. Raubenheimer, “Cronicles from Pre-Celtic Europe”. And he thinks that the”Oera Linda Book” is authentic and treat the content as valued

    He goes throuhg the “Oera Linda Book”, “the Book of Adela´s Followers” , is the original title, chapter by chapter. In short the book are telling a story about a high Frisian culture that was destroyed by a cataclysmic event and this was happening at 2193 BC; big tsunamis and land submerging; they lost their Altland (It is interesting that on some of the old maps, a big island north of Scotland appears). We know also that Abraham of the Noas House in Ur had to go west, beceause their soil had been destroyed. What Raubenheimer suggest is that it was a big impact af a comet or space rock into the Indian Ocean. It made big tsunamis, the salty seawater evaporated, and was falling down on the nearby regions and destroyd the soil and the agriculture. It had also concequencies for the earth´s crust.

    If there had been a civilazation in Queen Mauds Land before the 2193 BC event, the big tsunami could have been a devastating event.

    My thoughts
    Dag

    1. Dag, I have their predecessor book “When the Earth Nearly Died” by D.S. Allan and J.B. Delair [1995] (reissued as “Cataclysm: Compelling Evidence of a Cosmic Catastrophe in 9500 B.C.”). It was one of the main books that converted me to catastrophism (in addition to uniformatarianism). There was such an immense amount of detail that the conclusion was unavoidable. I usually reread it once a decade…

      I have been on the Orkney Islands in the north of Scotland, and there are ancient megaliths there like the Stones of Stennis and the Ring of Brodgar. Most interesting ‘energies’…

      On the other end of UK in Cornwall, there are many ‘locals’ who insist on the truth of ancient stories that this area used to be much broader. Much was lost to the sea… (Recent sea-bottom searches in those areas have shown remnants of forests. The area around UK is shallow seas, similar to what we have off the East Coast of the US. ‘Continental shelf’ depths. The question is: Were those drowned-lands just gradually-subsumed by the ocean at the end of the last Ice Age, or was it a more-rapid inundation?)

      1. Dag from Ringerike

        Thank you goshawks for your reply. It is very interesting that there is common knowledge or awareness about events that were happening thousend of years ago in south west England. I visited Cornwall 20 years ago and what i remeber from that trip, at the south west coastline, there are abrupt cliffs all along.

        Then, 6 years ago, I visited Gran Canaria, Puerto Rico, at the south west coast. I was bringing with me the book “Cataclysm”, sitting on a balcony without any abruption for the needs for internet and tried to comprehend the content of this outstanding book. Of course dining out in the evenings…..

        Well we decided to go to the nice little place called Puerto de Mogan, a horrible experience by buss, a road carved out of the cliffs. We decided to take the boat, or ferry, back to Puerto Rico. What i noticed; there were hills descending to the coastline, and then kind of a saw that have been cutting the hills. The rocks out of the hills had been just falled into the ocean. What i noticed, there were up to twenty layers of rock, or lave at each cut. I found this YT-clip, of a boat trip from Puerto de Mogan to Puerto Rico. The first minutes of the clip are showing the cuts.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhw785k8Nhs

        Interesting also is that there are no showing of lava falling over the cliffs. So this event, the saw cutting of the hills, must have been happening in a “recent” geological time frame.

        Alewyn J. Raubenheimer in his book, suggest that “Altland” (Atlantis in greek), was an extension of the Faroe islands, but that more than 60 to 70 % of the land fall into the ocean, like you were seeing in the YT-clip, in the cataclysmic event that was happening at 2193 BC. He has very compelling maps at page 324 and 325 in his book. what he thinks how Altland looked like before the event.

        Enjoyed this thread,
        Dag

  5. Well, I originally gave you my opinions and I’ll add only this: I believe that there have been at least 4 previous civilizations (of human beings) before ours, as the evidence is EVERYWHERE, but mostly under water, some under sand and why not one under the ice, either alone or connected to one or more of the others (?) And what of lower Africa and the Great Rift? Things unspoken of there too, IBECHA.

  6. I think that this all is starting to fit in conveniently with the talk given my Dr. Steven Greer (http://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/new-shocking-info-false-flag-coming-dr-steven-greer-the-carol-rosin-show/) presented by Carol Rosin on her show. He is warning of a global false flag in which we are to believe that we are being attacked by E.T.s/UFO’s and it will have the consequence of the final loss of every shred of sovereignty, if not loss of life on a major scale. He goes on to say that there are UFO’s here that are in fact “terrestrial” but that they are easily identifiable by looking at seams and rivets, and that the “real” extraterrestrial models have no seams or rivets because they transform themselves here, not fly in any conventional way. He also suggested that animal mutilations and many/most abductions are “terrestrial” in nature in an effort to work the population up to this fear required for the big event. Actual extraterrestrial sightings by a large population of people are often followed up by terrestrial extravaganzas so that people do not know or question from where these UFO’s might originate.

    Having said all that, it sets up the idea that, like the Trump election for which Steve Pieczenik suggests is credited to CIA, FBI, military ensuring the election or not allowing the Hillary camp to steal it, is it possible that we are actually being visited by an ET delegation through what some people believe is a stargate in Antarctica, one of the reasons that the Nazi’s were there and why Byrd got the heck out of there? Neil Armstrong made it pretty clear that they were not alone when they landed on the moon, surely Buzz Aldrin had similar encounters and would be able to present a peaceful presence (been there done that sort of way), or are we being set up for the “big one”? Or better yet, is this delegation here to prevent the false flag and stop all this “globaloney” nonsense? As you would say, Dr. Farrell, “You Tell Me”.

  7. Oki.;. So if contact has been made, does this have anything to do with it?

    http://yournewswire.com/ufo-attack-turkey/

    Maybe Turkey’s getting a basting for doing this :

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-entered-syria-to-end-al-assads-rule-president-erdogan.aspx?PageID=238&NID=106709&NewsCatID=352

    If the Aliens are on Russia’s side, Russia won’t be happy that Turkey is rolling over into Syria.. would he?

    https://www.sott.net/article/335367-Russia-negotiates-with-Turkey-jihadis-surrender-in-Aleppo-Putin-forces-Erdogan-to-back-down-on-his-rhetoric

    What better way to get Erdogan to back down than with a good ol’ Alien Invasion butt whooping?

    Unless… Its all just illusions and smokescreens… I’m sure we all remember this one.. http://exopolitics.org/leaked-document-recommends-false-flag-alien-invasion-to-save-clinton-campaign/

    I dunno.. If there are Aliens down there, that may have pushed the Nazi’s into overdrive on the Master Race baloney, that whammied Byrd into paste and lets remember.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/antarctica/antartica11.htm
    Roswell : First week of July (I cant find an exact date. Anyone have it?) 1946
    Operation Highjump. 26 August 1946 (starts), “The Western Group of ships reached the Marquesas Islands on December 12, 1946”
    Then Byrd went back to his Nazi masters in Argentina to beg for forgiveness and no we won’t be going back to Antarctica without your permission sir, thank you can I go home now please? -Well , gave an interview to a newspaper, therefore warning his USA bosses and putting it on record (who knows maybe Hanz hiding in China would have read it and decided to get down south to meet up with the boys?) (and pubickly admitting his spanking to the world) that we’d better get ready for some serious flying machines.

  8. Well, if anyone can keep a secret it is a Russian priest and a NASA astronaut. Imagine being the Russian priest who listened to Joseph Stalin’s few confessions? That would be hard information to keep to yourself, let alone not have a heart attack after or turn to liquor. My hats off to that priest. One would have a hard time believing in god after that. And then there is all that intellectual treasure from the library of Alexandria that may have landed in Moscow by way of Constantinople that the Russian church may be keeping secret. Maybe that is why the Patriarch was called in. The Russian church may have intel on an ancient south polar civilization. Rumor has it the Patriarch has not been the same since returning to Moscow. He has stopped going to church and spends much of his nights in Moscow discotheques and his days conferring with Siberian shamans and ingesting psychotropic mushrooms.

    1. Naturally, when I first heard this news about Buzz Aldrin, I assumed it was viagra related. Probably took too much or it had adverse effects on the South Pole. Even at 86, I would wager he is still in high demand by the ladies, who just want a piece of the man who walked on the Moon. (Not the second btw. The second man to walk on the Moon was Horst Schimmel, WWII stuka ace and legendary foo fighter test pilot). Funny that he is wearing the Mars shirt, like a tourist who just left there and is now on the next leg of his trip. I imagine flying in a plane with Buzz Aldrin, even an old rickety Russian plane, would make one feel pretty safe. If being strapped to a chemical rocket and being launched into space can’t kill this guy, he must be pretty lucky.

    2. Regarding John Kerry, perhaps he was going to Antarctica on behalf of the Clinton Foundation and all his friends in DC who may be looking for new toppings for their pizza. I would imagine the chief role for a Secretary of State in this wicked age is to negotiate these kind of concealed, sordid exchanges. Or maybe he was going on behalf of the Disney corporation who may be interested in developing the remnants of the ancient civilization into a theme park. Does Disney have the political clout to get Washington to melt the Antarctic ice cap to make the continent more tourist friendly? I don’t know, but Donald Trump certainly does now. I suspect it won’t be long now before Trump Enterprises starts developing the southern continent for his new luxury hotel and golf course. I just hope he doesn’t treat the penguins the same way these American golf course developers treat geese. Appalling. True genocide.

      1. The other thing to seriously consider– the natives of Antarctica would most certainly be opposed to WWIII just like any other sensible inhabitant of planet Earth. Perhaps they were gravely opposed to Hillary as well and were expressing their concerns to Kerry or maybe even informing him that they, the secret civilization on Antarctica, were behind the wikileaks.

        1. Check out the Werner Herzog documentary about Antarctica. As the true bottom of the world, the South Pole seems to attract all those people who used to flock to San Francisco before it became too expensive. Lots of philosophers and beatniks. Most fascinating bit in the film is about the suicidal penguins who leave the clutch to do a solitary trek into the high lands. A penguin spirit quest?

          1. White Desert tour director Patrick Woodhead is also the author of Rider Haggard style adventure novels…

          2. Vomito .. As with all Herzogs films .. this is excellent .. God!! .. they have made an unholy mess of McMurdo whilst everyone working down there appears to have mild to severe mental issues .. are either on parole or in witness protection .. Endlessly harassing the wild life and blowing up sh!t seems to be one way of passing the time .. Weaponizing the milk from lactating seals and DNA sequencing of clams appear to be another form of polar entertainment .. If I was one of the “others” .. I would be pissed off too .. Herzog was correct .. “Everest and Antarctica should have NEVER been touched by humans” .. Great link … thanks for that and highly recommended … 🙂

        2. Robert Barricklow

          Again, love your writing style
          with your wickedly darkly cool twist
          on the ruling elites and current global events.

          The only author I’ve read close to your style is
          Robert Glancy
          [currently reading: Please Do Not Disturb].

    3. Vomito … LMAO .. (Its 3.35am here at the moment and I have caught up on sleep .. but some of your comments have me crying laughing) .. FANTASTIC stuff .. I love it !!

  9. I am probably out of line but I hope they did not encounter a “civilazation” from here or elswhere. For first contact I would not want to be represented by Americans.. Every movie/series this is allways represented as a normal, the norm even. Well I find it offensive.

    I would not know in a “respectfull way” how to set up a first encounter group representing earth. But sending a few from the greatest bully country on earth isn’t it.

  10. By a serendipitous chance, today I was visiting (no, NOT McMurdo Station) the National Geophysical Institute in Rome, and saw some posters about one of the educational projects they organise for high school students about Antarctica.

  11. These articles concerning the clandestine events occurring at the South Pole are THE most intriguing and mysterious events of the year .. Whatever is going on down there is in the realm of H.P. Lovecraft .. For me … nothing else comes close to this … not UFO’s .. not geopolitics .. nothing !! .. I can faintly hear “The Call of Cthulhu” “At the Mountains of Madness” …

    1. HP Lovecraft’s work was indeed mysterious.. in the sense that he seemed to have knowledge that HE wasnt supposed to have.. (may just be urben legend..)
      Undiscovered cities hidden deep under the Ice.. Seems particulary pertinant here.. I have to admit, that book inspired me to start digging around Antarctica..
      However, what needs to be remembered is that Lovecraft was also a close personal friend to Robert E Howard.
      Read through this : http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks06/0603571.txt

      He starts off saying, wait, this is a fiction, I’m not ‘really’ suggesting an alternative history..
      He talks about a great cataclysm that overthrows the Earth (Crust Deplacement?? )
      He goes on to discuss Thule, Hyperboreans, Atlanteans, Lumerians, and Alien Cultures.

      “Far to the south
      there was a mysterious civilization, unconnected with the Thurian
      culture, and apparently pre-human in its nature.”

      If you follow a map of what he describes, this is pretty much where Eygpt/Mesopotomia would be in his ‘fictional’ history.. Pre human? And the Stygien civilisation that replaces them much later, worship snakes.

      Following later on in his description..

      ” The people of Nordheim are of similar build,
      but with white skins, blue eyes and golden or red hair”

      So, is it a question of Fantasy reflecting (phase conjugate mirrors!!!!) Reality??
      Or Reality inspiring Fantasy?

      And one of his most famous novelet The Tower of the Elephant, goes on to show Conan meeting up with a Space Alien. (which looks like Ganesha) Who says to Conan..
      “There are many worlds besides this earth, and life takes many shapes. I am neither god nor demon, but flesh and blood like yourself, though the substance differ in part, and the form be cast in a different mold.

      ‘I am very old, oh man of the waste countries; long and long ago I came to this planet with others of my world, from the green planet Yag, which circles for ever in the outer fringe of this universe. ”

      This is from a book written in 1933.

      1. Robert E. Howard is my favorite author. I thought I had read all the Conan books but I might have to read or re-read The Tower Of The Elephant!

      2. Thanks Kahlypso! I read all of the Howard books as a teen. I may have to go over them as an adult, looking for the ‘clues’ you mentioned.

        (Do you remember Fritz Lieber’s “Fafred and the Grey Mouser” sword & sorcery books? Travel to all sorts of strange lands. Might be more ‘clues’ there…)

        As mentioned before, I love the breadth and depth of the audience here. Especially, the science fiction and ‘fantasy’ side. Someone pops-up and says, “Hey, do you remember this? Now, look at it This Way…” Great, and thanks.

  12. “Your comment is awaiting moderation.” Hmm. I noticed a ring of flak towers just before I was hit…
    goshawks – December 2, 2016 at 12:43 am.

  13. For me, I see a pattern:

    One of the most senior politicians on the planet was summoned to Antarctica. One of the most senior religious leaders on the planet was summoned to Antarctica. One of the most senior spaceflight veterans on the planet was summoned to Antarctica.

    ET or advanced humans, this sounds like some (living) entity or group is doing a diplomatic ‘first contact’ and is doing it by some formal process (by its own standards or procedures) meant to be balanced and authoritative. No fooling around.

    If it was just an artifact or ruin of some sort, there would be more ‘bureaucracy’ involved. Layers of intermediaries, if you will. Not going straight to the top (available) humans of each field. (Buzz Aldrin may be deeply symbolic, in this regard.)

    I still hear those murmurs around “Disclose by this date, or we will…”

    1. Goshawks .. You have NAILED it .. It’s not “some things” that are down there .. it’s the “some ones” that are down there ..
      “Send US your leaders” !!!

      1. Robert, I am more hopeful. I think that they sent for our Masters (not Mine) in order to tell them to straighten-up. To show these ‘Masters of the Universe’ where they REALLY stand in the pecking-order of things…

        (I also think that the doings in Antarctica has a ‘psychological’ perspective. Land aliens or advanced humans on the White House lawn – or in the capital of any advanced country, Neru – and the more fear-ridden will freak out. When it comes-out publicly that ‘beings’ have a facility in Antarctica, those same people will roll-over and go back to sleep – as Antarctica is emotionally as distant as Mars to them…)

  14. thank you doc. and daniel.

    perhaps christmas will bring me a not-for-profit (or not for prophet) company with bricks and mortar address (or po box) that we unpaypallers and unbitcoiners can send checks and or greenbacks to.

    you didn’t really think we’d give up did ya? no worries either way. if nothing else will continue buying multi copy orders of the books to show support. great christmas presents everyone.

    thank you again and thank you all. merry christmas. happy new year and see you when we can.

    1. Tourism push is not likely. I am attempting to go on a trip there from Tasmania and the list of rules and regulations regarding what you can bring, do and touch there are extensive. I dobut seriously that they want a greater influx of tourists to the continent, as they go to great lengths to keep the place pristine. There is also quite a waiting list, since the limited number of operators and the occasions that one can go prohibit a massive expansion of tourists. Ther eis a tiny window of about four weeks that tourists can actually go there. Outside of that, you have to have really big bux or special permission and support.

    2. There is no way on god earth I would get on a plane to flown down to Antartica .. No way!! .. I would rather do a camel trek to Pine Gap …

      1. Excuse typos and mistakes .. I have had an EPIC day .. (first grandchild arrived at dawn) .. Above comment should have read .. There is NO way on gods earth I would get on a plane to fly down to Antarctica .. NO way !! .. I would rather do a camel trek to Pine Gap .. I still have vivid memories of the 1972 Mount Erebus plane crash and that’s enough for me ..

          1. Thank you everyone .. there will be no TV ‘s or anything with an “i” proceeding it (iphones .. ipads .. ipods etc) while she is with “Nanna” … lol .. Suddenly I feel OLD .. Cheers guys .. much appreciated .. 🙂

      2. Some parts of Antarctica has tundra in the summer months and gets close to 60* F. I would love to go there and relic hunt and prospect. International treaties like the embargo on going to Antarctica without permission is a crime against the human spirit of adventure and creation so should be ignored by all.

  15. A super powerful electric generator capable of generating enough power to send ET home perhaps and other super conductor experiments.

    1. My link to hydrogen sulfide super conductors that could easily operate in the colder part of Antarctica keeps getting disappeared. But you can google it.

      1. No telling what devices based on super conducting tech one might be able to operate and test down there and run long term.

        1. Perhaps aliens or the break a ways run their secret bases on the potential infinite amount of free zero point energy that might be unlocked by super conductors.

  16. Several years ago when I listened to thebyteshow there was an Aaron Kaplan who was interviewed on Jan 4 2014 who talked about issues that occurred during the Korean War near the pole and the news of 2014 of the Russian ship stuck in the ice needing help. Please check out that interview. While he is a slow talker and repeats himself the information really relates to this topic today. He discusses treaties and so forth set up that I had never heard of. I believe you can still find it on thebyteshow site. I am sure his comments have to do with what is happening now. The first thing I thought of when I saw the Mars t-shirt was the issues of the Korean war era which occurred away from Korea.

  17. If they found some ancient civ down there they wouldn’t send a Bishop, Diplomat, and old astronaut. You would sent scientists and archaeologists. Those 3 would be some kind of delegation. You got Kerry, representative of the most powerful country on earth. You have Krill, a representative of the 2nd most power country on earth. And you have a man, Aldrin, who is one of the few known earthlings to have had actually traveled in space and and walk on a different sphere.

    But who were they to meet? ETs maybe, but what defines an “ET.” If a group of Nazis left earth 60 years a ago and their offspring have returned, wouldn’t these people be classified as ETs?

  18. Robert Barricklow

    No doubt a phenomenal discovery was made.
    My bet is an ancient artifact[s] tied to an ancient terrestrial civilization with shades of Atlantis/Lost Continent.
    Within this could be a treasure trove of artifacts that can either serve or enslave mankind.
    Being that “we” don’t have a good tract record there[just look at money being used as master instead of servant. Nor, do we have an excellent media track record in conveying truth to the public.
    So, what do we have here?
    Whatever it is; I don’t think we, the people will being the currency of truth being spent on our behalf.

  19. Another case of “You can’t handle the truth.” Nothing to see here, move along.
    Either an ancient civilization or something “alien” would be of great religious significance and the church would want to suppress it as long as possible for obvious reasons. It would most definitely upset the apple cart for the age of the earth and how long humanity has existed upon it for some believers. It would also overturn that linear progression timeline so aggressively defended by mainstream “science”. It could also deal a blow to plate tectonics, if it turns out crustal displacement or an expanding earth may be the cause of Antarctica’s present location. A long shot, no doubt, but a possibility none the less.
    We can speculate as much as we like; however, without any concrete evidence, it’s anybody’s guess.

    1. I disagree that any of the “catholic” based traditions of the church would want to suppress it. The idea of different intelligent life forms is part and parcel of church tradition and doctrine. Such suppression, at least as far as Christianity is concerned, is more likely to come from the extreme forms of Protestant evangelicalism and fundamentalism.

      1. I don’t know Joseph. The theory behind the dogma might be to want to do the opposite of suppress knowledge. The practice of the dogma pushers has sometimes (ok, more like routinely) been to suppress way too much way too long. Brings to mind James Redfield’s Celestine Prophecy scenario. It more and more sounds like preps for disclosure though. working that disclosure process to maximize problem reaction solution profits.

      2. I have my doubts there, considering what possibly could be hidden away in the Vatican archives and the churches tight control over “heretic” knowledge over the centuries. I agree with your “extreme forms of Protestant evangelicalism and fundamentalism” point though. Religion, in general, taken to such extremes is more about control of the masses than God.

          1. Any religion is extreme as far as I’m concerned, but thats my personal opinion…(yep I had a religious Fire and Brimstone education..)
            Yep.. Enoch, Ezekiel, Jacob, Gilgamesh (watching the Shems rise up in the Sky and keep on getting woken up by them landing) Even Mohammet’s description when he chases Gabriel out of his cave.. Read it.
            I’m more of the feeling that we should get back to Thoth’s explanations and rememeber that there is no Divine.

          2. I have always viewed them as such, personally, as they are not of this earth, the same applies to God and Lucifer; however, the Nephilim, which may have been the “gods”/Titans of the past, were born on the earth, though their fathers were extraterrestrial, a hybrid race, and were taught “forbidden” knowledge by their fathers. They may account for the advanced civilizations of the antediluvian past and shortly afterwards. I would be interested in your opinion on this, should you care to share it. There is enough evidence to suggest that they did exist.
            Your studies on religious matters eclipse mine, and your learned opinion carries weight mine simply does not have. Knowledge gained on my part.

    2. Whats up with that Mars t-shirt? Also, looks like he’s human growth hormones. Way fitter than any 86 year old I’ve seen.

      1. Thanks blacktask you beat me to the punch I was going to mention the Mars t-shirt. Antarctica has been the setting for many a fantasy-science fiction stories and novels. Could there be a Antarctica-Mars connection given the discovery or disclosure of a large body of water on that planet I think bellow one Mars poles just a speculation.

        1. Perhaps his final tourist destination was really the secret Mars polar base reachable by the super conducting Earth to Mars polar string quantum connected portal, teleporter, or super conducting polar string riding shuttle.

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