RESURRECTING THE TSAR BOMBA…
Most people here know my routine: sometime during the week, I open up my "finals" folder and sort through all the emails with articles people have sent me, trying to notice patterns and, if there are any, to blog about them, selecting from the articles and stories people send me. This week, however, Mr. V.T. sent me the following story, and when I read it, it recalled old memories. Needless to say, this article went straight to my "finals folder":
The Mystery of Russia's Doomsday Bomb
So what are the "old memories"? And what do they have to do with our trademark "high octane speculation."
First the "old memories." When Nikita Khrushchev exploded the Tsar Bomba over Novaya Zemlya on Oct 30, 1961, I was four and a half years old. I remember this event. President John F. Kennedy had just taken office a few months before, and then, in April, we went through perilous and anxious days around the dinner table, watching the Bay of Pigs invasion unfold and then collapse, provoking the first major crisis of the new Kennedy Administration. Our family - my father, mother, youngest sister and I - huddled around the dinner table which was positioned so that we could watch a little portable TV, an expensive item back then, and not very good. But it served its purpose.
When Premier Khrushchev exploded the Tsar Bomba, we were similarly so assembled around the dinner table, eating our meal in silence, and watching - as I recall - a CBS news report. A bald Adlai Stevenson, US Ambassador to the UN security council, gave a short statement (you can see this statement here, which is taken from a British newsreel at the time, but the feed ran on the three major US networks back then:)
Our local newspaper also carried a story about it, and I can remember my father, when reading about the size of the bomb, throwing the paper down and saying, partly in anger, partly in frustration, "Chr*st almighty!"
The next year later we had the Cuban missile crisis, and more tense days and anxious moments around the dinner table. Again, an impassioned Adlai Stevenson confronted the Soviet UN ambassador, Mr. Zorin, with pictures of the Soviet missiles, demanding an explanation. Once the crisis was defused, the USA, USSR, and UK signed the Test Ban Treaty, outlawing all atmospheric tests of nuclear and thermonuclear weapons.
Back then, I wondered, with my little boy's mind, what had happened, and why? Why would the Soviet Union first build, and then test, such a large bomb?
I still wonder even now, especially now as it appears Mr. Putin has revived the project.
And this, of course, brings me to our high octane speculations of the day, including some very very high octane speculations. One might even call them "out of this world" speculations.
Why build such a bomb? Why revive it now? The first, and obvious, answer is of course, deterrence. Back then, as we now know, the Soviet Union lagged far behind the USA in its ability to manufacture and deploy operational nuclear and thermonuclear weapons. The "missile gap," on which President Kennedy ran part of his campaign in 1960 against Richard Nixon, has now proven to be a fiction. During the Khrushchev era, the USA had far more theater and strategic nuclear weapons than did Russia, and Russia's strategic nuclear arsenal - that arsenal capable of striking the USA from launch sites in the Soviet Union, lagged far behind. Russia was "ringed in" also by American theater nuclear weapons, including missiles parked in Turkey aimed at it. By exploding such a bomb, Khrushchev was sending messages: "We may not have more, but we can build them very, very big." And it was left for us to guess how many they might have built. (The story now, is, of course, that they only built one.) Indeed, it was the "Tsar Bomba" that formed the real basis for the fictional "doomsday weapon" in Stanley Kubrick's classic dark comedy, Dr. Strangelove. As the above article notes, an air burst of such a gigantic miniature star over the continental USA would pretty much fry all electronics throughout most of the country. Khruschev's subsequent moves, placing Russian theater nuclear missiles in Cuba could be seen as a response to this Russian perception of being "ringed in." A perception that, notably, the Russian government has been voicing in recent years and months, especially since the USA-sponsored coup-d'etat in the Ukraine, and the provocative stationing of NATO troops in the Baltic nations, close to the major northern Russian cities.
In short, we are watching the repeat of a pattern from decades ago. And with modern technology, that old "Tsar Bomba" could be upgraded, its reaction burn made much more efficient, and its weight correspondingly reduced. With advances in technology, it is conceivable that Russian designers could design a bomb with a yield even exceeding the article's claimed 100 megatons.
But another pattern possibly looms behind this disturbing development. We now know that Mr. Khrushchev's wild and erratic foreign policy, manifest most of all in his detonation of the "Tsar Bomba" and the stationing of nuclear theater missiles in Cuba, was in part a measure designed not just to send messages to the USA, but also to appease hardliners within his own party and government. Thus, a similar prospect looms here, for there have been occasional rumblings from Mr. Putin's Russia that certain hardliners within that country view Mr. Putin as being "too soft."
So much for our high octane speculation.
But there may be an even deeper, much more speculative context, in which to view the development. Recall that just a few years ago, prior to the Chelyabinsk meteor incident, then Russian Prime Minister Dmitri Medvedev, a month before that incident, made a call for the Russian development of an asteroid detection and defense system, preferably as an international effort, but going it alone if required. During that statement, Mr. Medvedev stated that asteroids could be deflected or destroyed with existing Russian technology, including thermonuclear weapons, and "other means" which he did not specify. A 100 megaton hydrogen bomb would certainly destroy a lot of asteroid. There were, indeed, strange things happening in the same time frame: an American and Russian satellite collided in orbit, and event that caused me to speculate that maybe someone made them collide. Medvedev's statement also, coming as it did a mere month before the Chelyabinsk Meteor incident, and the strange videos some posted on the internet that appeared to show something else trailing the meteor immediately prior to its explosion, also raised speculations in some quarters that maybe the meteor was not only deliberately taken out, but that it may have literally been "thrown" at Russia.
So I cannot help but wonder if Russia might be attempting to meet several strategic objectives by reviving the "Tsar Bomba" concept, not only terrestrial ones, but indeed, some strategic objectives that are "out of this world."
See you on the flip side...
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Tzar Bomba? OMG Save us all!!
got a favor to ask. just looked over one of doc’s archives:
i just reread your comment there. will look up folk you mentioned and dig a bit. the favor: give more clues where (more like what) an old guy thinking of going back to school might study and get degreed in that will prove pertinent and useful in such electric manners.
gosh and walking dead and others, please do feel free to jump in here too. or perhaps doc, we can start a new university in south dakota? call it the leedskalnin engineering school? where LES is more. get it? LES is more?
in all seriousness a bit more guidance on pertinent engineering education is appreciated.
and of course vomito’s gotta run the english department.
Talking about explosions in our skies Dr.Paul Laviolette a few years ago announced we were to be hit with an incoming cosmic pulse wave, well one of those is coming our way to hit around december 26th_ a magnatar giant flare gamma ray burst like the one in march of 1979 did. It reverses the direction of earth’s magnetosphere against the solar wind because it comes from behind and these dangerous particles can collapse our already weakened shield. Not a great holiday gift. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCyLWFZoAlE
yeh fr. i saw that this morning. thinking more of us watch dutch than yt lets on. think i remember reading sometime in last few years (something to do with hype of 2012 fears) that it has to do with the solar system’s position in the galaxy and its variances every 26 million(?) years. it’s a cyclic thing. has to do with how high or low in the planar disc the system rides and how exposed to stronger plasma, impulses, whatever the system is exposed to from the center of the galaxy. alright i’m pretty sure i’ve botched that theory adequately.
I saw that crazy energy wave hit the Earth on Dutchsense earlier today as well. In the you tube comments I mentioned our solar system was suppose to be entering a galactic hot gas cloud and that might have caused it. But if so then it seems it would be on going. Still thinking about that anomaly; it might just be a computer glitch but it didn’t look like it.
I was in my early teens during the Cuban Missile Crisis. I was living on a large US Army base with my family. I still remember jeeps with mounted machine guns being stationed at the base’s gates, and the pure fear in the air. I had a few nightmares during that period…
The article is interesting, although there is a definite Russia-bashing slant to it. The neocons are their own worst enemy. Russia has been pushed to the wall, territory-wise. The former Warsaw Pact buffer-countries are neutral or in NATO, and most of The Ukraine is rabidly anti-Russian thanks to Soros & Co. The Russians are feeling – deservedly so – like Carthage against the Romans. These are stupid neocon tactics, unless they Want to bring-on Armageddon or have a way off-world…
As an aside, the article states that the Tsar Bomba utilized three stages: “The first stage used fission to compress a thermonuclear second stage, just like in a normal H-bomb… the thermonuclear second stage was designed to compress another thermonuclear third stage and to fission a uranium tamper.” I believe that the third-stage ‘analysis’ is incorrect…
In a star’s life, hydrogen burning lasts for most of its lifespan. A helium layer (hydrogen’s thermonuclear ‘ash’) builds-up at the core over time. Eventually, if the star still has enough mass, the helium layer itself becomes ‘fuel’. Helium fuses until the core is largely carbon and oxygen, with a helium shell around it.
My belief is that the third-stage of the Tsar Bomba was meant to initiate the “helium into carbon & oxygen” cycle. This would generate vastly more energy. (A “uranium tamper” would be consumed in the ‘stellar’ fireball. Chances are, the uranium atoms would be split so-far-down that the resulting by-products would not be radioactive or of short-lived isotopes. Not ‘doomsday’ radioactivity…)
I have read that Andrei Sakharov, who was the bomb’s design leader, reduced the yield out of unspecified fears. My thought is that – akin to the original fears of the fission bomb igniting the atmosphere in the Trinity test – Sakharov may have feared that the large-scale thermonuclear-fusion of helium into carbon and oxygen might have had a chance to get out of control. Our atmosphere IS partially made-of carbon and oxygen. Sakharov played it safe, thank God…
(In case it was unclear: Carbon and oxygen can also fuse, all the way up to iron.)
gosh, whatdya think of theory that sun is electric not so fusion/fission?
ZDB, I have not had the time to look into the Electric Universe. Perhaps later…
ZDB, several million volts and plasma creates fusion/fission. Pressure helps as well so the two aren’t exclusive.
Trump gats the green light from the electoral college.
Now, will he make America great again?
Or, is he going to liquidate it? Auction-off public properties and monopoly rights to favored oligarchs – like Yeltsin did?
Will we one day fondly remember when the CIA controlled our presidents and not the Russian mafia? The quirky sense of humor the CIA had putting nitwits, transvestites, Egyptian mummy clones, and cigar smoking nymphomaniacs in the Whitehouse? Remember when they roughed up George W. Bush and made it look like he fell off the sofa while choking on a pretzel? I fully expect Donald Trump to one day emerge from the Oval Office with the stem of a margarita glass in his throat. I think the genteel days of societal soft kill and polite thievery are over as we enter a new era of unrepentant thuggery where extortion payments are the norm for every business big or small and every attractive female is a potential s*x slave no matter her background. Introducing Putin’s Revenge. Yeltsin’s Russia has now washed up on America’s shores.
I have a friend who says Trump is in it just for the Big Lavish parties and all that royalty treatment, the pomp and circumstance, etc., etc.
Like with Bush and Cheney;
Pence is the Deep State operator?
[Engdahl did an article showing all to deep ties Trump has to organized crime]
yeh, we talked about that about a month ago on here. think we came up with trump being the non-alcoholic yeltsin and tried to figure who was the gorby and putin coming up. forget which blog it was on.
VB & ZDB
It is Corporate Fascism that is sweeping out countries and buying up nation state after purposing making them fail. They turn them into Narco States and/or put them up on the auction block, like Greece.
It goes deeper than that…
Hate to think it; but this was a thought of mine when Russia took the hit. I imagined a deal struck by the puppet masters that basically said Russia would take the first hit, followed by the US, at a prescribed date, that would put an ungodly amount of private power & profits in their control.
“We” have a schism between the way we currently reason about war and the manner in which war is being fought; and that is the ever-ongoing & exponentially growing reprivatization of force – beyond the reach of any one state.
In fact, is the DEEP State anything public except in its façade to hide the private interest of private power; and its use of public funds, to work against the public’s interest at every turn of the screw?
Fukushima wasn’t manufactured with public consent. The Breakaways are using both private and public funds, public instetyooSHens, and various government departments to suit & fit their own private interests.
So let me get this straight; Hillary sells Oregon’s Uranium to Putin’s comrades who are building the next Tsar Bomba and yet in the run-up to the recent election she was telling the Council on Foreign Relations she would attack Russia first. Even over a cyber-attack!?
I know the woman is power-mad but have we given enough credit to the KGB/FSB mind control programs reported by Tom Bearden?
The electoral college must not be compromised lest the Witch be superseded to power and the convenient “Russia hacked the election” meme is turned into a full blown call to war.
On a separate note; anyone else noticed how the MSM has completely solved the Pizzagate scandal with this supposed shooter from the Carolina’s taking over Comet Pedo Pong? Yeah, he supposedly ‘gave up’ after finding no evidence of the things being purported by the witch hunters online. Nothing to see here folks, move along.
Perhaps Trump should consider asking the Russians to use the ole Tsar Bomba to drain the swamp in D.C.
It’s not like the District of Maryland is actually a State.
It’s not actually part of what makes America great.
It’s the least American part of America.
It makes decisions that terrorize Americans
It makes decisions that terrorize it’s allies and neighbors
It supports terrorists and terrorism abroad in every corner of the world
It might even be the terrorist capital of the world
And on that note; it pretty much just needs to GO!
I can’t wait for the wall to be built around southern California. Forget Mexico, a wall around Southern California would do the nation much more good.
brings to mind. how long do you think before comet pizza and that whole strip mall are declared a terrorist tragic site, restricted from public scrutiny and demolished. dejavu all over again. the sandy hook of restaurant experiences. god bless david brock, the podestas et al. they’re gonna need it
roger, you also brought to mind:
djya ever see what folk with diplomatic immunity do? let alone get away with? and where in the ussa are there more folk with diplomatic immunity? and where in the ussa are there folk with the lowest standard of living and the least civil rights living with the craziest mix of the wealthiest nastiest on the planet? always wondered why mr global went to such lengths to pooch the rights of such a small group in such a small place.
meant to address that to 8th degree.
I think some cities have what is called an International Designation or Destination title. In all of these I’ve lived and worked in the wealthy who’ve been granted certain priveledges by tptb seem to have free reign to do whatever they want and have it covered up so long as it’s not too out into the public. In all these cities drug abuse is higher to ensnare a constant stream of fresh young meat. If it’s a city full of strip clubs and international tourists you can bet some delivery businesses are probably delivering more than what meets the eye and the private clubs are private for a reason.
ZDB, my reply is in moderation. Cities that are declared and titled International Destinations are the ones to keep an eye on. This title appears to be code for we got you covered.
ZDB, cities title International destinations are elite safe havens.
ZDB, my several replies are in mod.
Washington DC is actually a separate city/state as is the Vatican and the Queen. We are actually ruled by a foreign corporation and a bankrupt one at that.
Enter “A Canadian” commenter stage left; yes, I meant District of Columbia (and I know you totally agree)
Anybody want to discuss a “Cosmic War” that happened either 65 million years ago or 3.2 million years ago. Somebody on this planet knows what happened, and those people have relatives living here, so atomic bombs in the modern era are not applicable in todays world, lessons learnt I might say.
I suspect Venus might have been called Heaven by their inhabitants and they may have colonized Earth. This war, like most wars, was likely about a struggle of power between different planetary factions. According to the Sumerians Venus was having global warming issues and Earth’s resources were their primary reason for coming here at first. Either Venus was destroyed in a great war or there was a great war between the Venus evacuee’s power structure over Earth’s colonist power structure when Venus became uninhabitable due to a supposed resurfacing event. Probably why the Mayans were more concerned with Venus’s cycles with earth more than any other celestial event. Likely transports happened when the two were closest. Just speculation based on Zacharia’s mangled translations.
In the “Babylon 5” mini-movies and the subsequent “Crusade” series, the Shadow-side successor-species would give a world the chance to submit, and then (if refused) hit it with a ‘vengeance weapon’. This consisted of thousands of missile-style thermonuclear-plus devices that would arrow-in from their launch-platform in space, penetrate deep-into the crust (maybe the mantle) of the planet, and simultaneously detonate. This would result in a planet-wide ‘resurfacing’ event, and the extinction of life on that planet…
The first time I saw that ‘capability’, I thought of Venus. Ever wonder if B5 was a way the good-guys utilized to get-out historical Truth?
Could be. Most movies seem to have some real life parallels, maybe science fiction and fantasy have more than we suspect.
DownunderET, a group of scientists (Firestone, et al) is proving that something Big hit the miles-deep icecap somewhere between Hudsons Bay and the Great Lakes to cause the end of the last Ice Age. It took-out all the large mammals in the north, and most of Clovis man as well. Three hundred feet of ocean-rise after that probably wiped-out most evidence of any sea-level civilization.
It would be bad-enough if it was a random comet or such. If it was the result of a ‘recent’ Cosmic War, all the more so…
saker or anyone have anything clarifying on the russian amassador’s death in ankara?
Washington post rag says it was issis so it probably wasn’t. Talk about fake news, the msm has it in spades. Poor isil, isis, issis, er, I mean cia…. they get blamed for everything. Laugh. db
It very well could have been the Israeli Secret Intelligence Legion trying to drive a wedge between Turkey and Russia.
ISIL might also stand for Israeli Saudi Arabia’s Islamic Legion.
seems more likely than not. or we could be biased against those poor mossad guys. it’ll be worth watching how mr global’s press plays with putin, assad, erdogan, trump et al on this one. how are they planning on having their cake and eating it too on this?
They’ve told us the facts, but are not commenting yet. They are hoping that there will be more news tonight. They’re really pushing Russia to the extreme, aren’t they. Do they really want war that much?
There was this on Information Clearing House:
Almost comic in light of Fukushima and other atrocities the PTB wag daily on an unsuspecting? public.
Moscow’s ambassador to Turkey killed, the initial media message is that the perpetrator was an “Islamic extremist”….
I am most curious to find out whether it was truly an “Islamic extremist” doing the deed, or whether he was a Lee Harvey Oswald -style ‘patsy’ with an agency-type actually doing the ‘wetwork’…
Does anyone remember the film This Island Earth and the use of comets as weapons against the planet Metaluna . By the way the Russian ambassador to Turkey has been assassinated in Ankara coincidence that the electors are voting to confirm Donald Trump as President of the USSA I think not.
They have their Tsar bomba, we have Hillary. We can always put her back in the Whitehouse as a deterrent. Although, if I know my deep state nazis, they are probably laughing at the tsar bomba and relishing the look of surprise on the Russians’ faces when they learn (maybe the hard way) that the meteors the nazis are capable of hurling at Russia have tsar bombas inside. My big fear is if China constructs a weapon of this magnitude and decides to use it for fishing the Pacific; explode the big firecracker on the bottom and watch all the dead fish rise to the surface for easy harvesting.
I was wondering lately if some of those giant deep sea trenches in our planets’s oceans are really war wounds from the cosmic war, similar to the huge gash on Mars, the original scarface? I wonder also if anyone ever gets that eery sense, when visiting the Grand Canyon, that they are not looking at a natural wonder but a huge lesion carved out by a death ray from another planet?
I always get a kick out of all those new age types who go to Egypt in order to frolic around the Giza pyramid for a consciousness raising experience. Why don’t they just visit a Hiroshima, Gettysburg or a nuclear missile silo instead? The whole Giza plateau is probably just a war memorial with the giant lion statue commemorating the day we Earthlings blew up our enemies on another planet. I guess that’s the price you pay for not reading fake news. Ignorance truly can be bliss.
VB … Excellent observation .. Our ocean floor holds many secrets .. The Marinana Trench and Challenger Deep off Guam are indeed enormous depths shrouded in mystery .. Here in Australia we have the Perth Canyon .. averaging 1.5 kilometres (5,000 ft) deep and 15 kilometres (9.3 mi) across, making it similar in dimension to the Grand Canyon .. We know more about the surface of the moon than we do about our ocean floors .. I have often wondered about the extreme scarring that resides below us and how some of those canyons were REALLY created .. Then you have mysterious “Hillegoms Hole” (west of Perth way out in the Atlantic) SO deep it CAN’T be measured ..
They have their Tsar bomba, we have Hillary.
“Why build such a bomb? Why revive it now? ”
If you were facing an erratic, failing, resource-looting empire run by a cabal of erratic, hubris-filled, warmongering, criminal nut-jobs, you’d build one too.
Interesting speculation. The Chelyabinsk meteor incident is not the latest such event over Russia, there have been two more since then. Three near misses over one, though rather large, nation seems a bit against the odds. Meteors can be just as destructive as nuclear weapons and are considerably “cleaner”, though the overall effect would tend to plunge temperatures world wide for a few years.
If your goal was to “eliminate” a large number of “useless eaters” while keeping the land “usable” without nuclear fallout, meteors would serve this purpose rather well; assuming you could “aim” them that accurately enough to take out your intended target.
This might be more in line with the goals of a “breakaway civilization” rather than any one nation, especially if the goal was world domination through technological means; a one world technocracy “one ring to rule them all” kind of thing.
Since we have no hard evidence, speculation is the best we can do and the speculation in today’s post is as good as anyone else’s.
Yes, these issues are certainly a part of the “asteroid meme” which is kept simmering on the back burner…