THIS WEEK’S READER CONTRIBUTION WINNER: SOMETHING WICKED THIS ...

Ms. K.M. wins this week's reader contribution blog with the following post:

 

Metrology and Chronology are the studies of measurement and time. Most people are not aware that all measurements are inherently subjective, subject to error, and require constant revision. The methods of modern science, beginning with Francis Bacon, have all been directed to reducing error in measurement, increasing the relevance of the data, and enabling more effective scientific models to develop. Metrology and chronology are important element in the foundations of empiricism and the scientific method itself. Joseph Farrell ably discusses the topic in his book, Grid of the Gods, written with Dr. Scott DeHart. How are we measuring? How can we assess when things happened?  The paleoancient narrative seems highly subjective and more effective techniques continue to be developed and hopefully shared.

Nothing is as dicey as figuring out when events happened in the distant past. The Earth system is in constant motion. The environment of the Earth is dynamic, and this activity smudges the fingerprints of the past. Much has been written in the alternative science field about the origins of the Younger Dryas, a violent change in Earth weather that resulted in a rapid cooling of the Earth that lasted for about 1,000 years. It was a very short ice age. It has been difficult, even with a time span of only 12,000 to 14,000 years ago to fix a precise date for the event. The reigning alternative hypothesis is that a comet of some kind impacted the Earth. Some say that the object hit the Great Lakes region of the United States, wiping out nearly 40 species and dooming the Clovis civilization.  We’ve heard a lot of excitement from able researchers like Mr. Graham Hancock and I applaud his efforts. At the same time, I must express skepticism on the comet theory; if only because the hole in the ground has not been identified with clarity.  But work is ongoing.

A recent article in Mediterranean Archaeology and Archaeometry provides more textual evidence of the date by reference to Gobekli Tepe and astronomy. But the problem has never been the date. The problem has always been “the what.”

I think we will ultimately find that multiple events over about 100 years happened to trigger the Younger Dryas and the great melting. But what can explain all the data? Since we know that the Younger Dryas happened, further chronological precision may be unhelpful. The real question is what the triggering events were, the scientific narrative, if you will.

Many readers of Joseph Farrell’s work on the cosmic war will be familiar with Dr. Paul LaViolette, a physicist with a PhD in general systems theory. His unique background enables him to syncretize the various scientific disciplines and bring to bear all of the available information in an analogical way. One important book is his work, Earth under Fire. In it, he gathers all the best information he can from many dozens of sources and proposes that the effects of a massive explosion at the center of the Milky Way arrived to Earth about 13,500 years ago, which coincides quite nicely with the more recent research.  His theory explains most of the data while the comet theory only explains some of it.

Since these events occurred within human memory it also is worthy to consider textual evidence - the stories, tablets, and monuments of the past, in order to glean new calibrations of what and when, as Mr. Hancock is so good at doing; a technique when employed by Dr. LaViolette is quite fruitful. The strongest evidence is for LaViolette’s galactic wave theory, and it still remains the most interesting and relevant theory when combined with real scientific data and properly-interpreted textual evidence provided by human memory.

The bias against human historical narrative, misconstrued through the lens of colonial arrogance, must end if we are to find the final answers to the mystery of the great catastrophe. My advice is to reject the comet theory as the sole trigger. The story is wider and deeper; understanding  "Who are we?" "Where did we come from?"  "Where are we going?" will be better answered if we extend our sights beyond the heliopause.  An accurate historical record is the key element in humanity understanding itself.

It also might allow us to gain some predictive skill in galactic weather forecasting; which we need since those of us on the surface lack the underground cities of the government and the wealthy. The recent purple skies from the CME event in April 2017 as well as the Carrington event in 1859 should give anyone pause as the extent of our vulnerabilities on the surface. The cave cities in Turkey and tunnels throughout Europe seem like a better idea all the time.

43 thoughts on “ THIS WEEK’S READER CONTRIBUTION WINNER: SOMETHING WICKED THIS ...”

  1. Vomito Blanco There’s IS no doubt that I am the dumbest ass ON this site Lol …no doubt !!! (99 % of the TIME I have NO freaking idea what the Good Herr Doc & you’s guys/gals are talking bout ???? Lol But 1 thing i do KNOW ….is i get to choose what/who i spend the ‘time’ i am given by my Creator ….on as for me …come what may i’d rather stay UP here wit u’s guys 🙂 i cannot stop smiling & thinking bout how 🙂 i am ta spend it wit u’s guys/gals

  2. zendogbreath

    km, awesome.
    basta, what about other energy forms from the galactic center out through all the orbiting stars (aka capacitors) rather than plain old explosions?
    phil and vomito, the logic that brings such thoughts is invaluable. please keep bringing it.
    gosh and lgl, feels like youre onto something. how bout throwing in a bit of talbott and thornhill (and their adjustments to velikosvksy)? why does it have to be impact? how about large interplanetary bodies exchanging dishcharges and electromagnetic machining on massive scales into massive sheets of ice and earth and leaving the stuff we all assume comes from stars being formed?

    1. zendogbreath

      marcos, word.
      ian, gosh and robert. what about if the source of such cataclysm was looking at us and close? what if venus, mars, jupiter, saturn all did various dances with earth? what if earth and all these all bodies are stars as they form out of stars like the sun as the sun forms out of other larger capacitors whose plasma energy runs from the center of this galaxy. what if each of these bodies is a capacitor dissipating plasma from larger capacitors on down the line….?

      1. zendogbreath

        reminds me of a story told by field bioligists in california. jogger gets killed and surgically taken apart on trail. several types and levels and agencies of law enforcement get involved. immediately start in on silence of the lambs and hannibal the cannibal scenarios and psyche drawings of the killer and pretty quick there’s 30 or 40 serious LEO’s standing around the body trying to figure who and when and how and on and on about a body who’s face is surgically removed, who’s entrails are gone, who’s trauma that caused death seems minimal, who’s torso was surgically unzipped from neck to groin and on,….

        while they’re all standing there in their various confabs coming up with their grim scenarios for future serial killings, couple rangers walk up and point out the killer to the rest of em. bout a 100# cat is sitting on the perimeter watching all this, just taking it all in.

        1. zendogbreath

          curious how the answers to our problems are not solutions so much as obvious observations once we turn the problem around and redescribe it ably enough in different lights and ways and angles. the answers, or more accurate observations, are routinely simple and sitting there right in front of us.

          and yeh imagine what that cat was thinking as he saw all these potential prey messing around with his recent kill.

          1. zendogbreath

            on top of all that, i remember sometime back reading about edward leedskalnin having figured out (and stated it) the methods of Giza builders and clearly making efforts to elaborate on the electro-magnetics of his tools and generator and….

            on top of it he uses similar patterns to that found on the interior architectures of masonic halls and temples. anyone ever wonder if these builders aren’t the big cat in the room watching all the rest of us?

          2. zendogbreath

            thank you for letting me run that whole long chain of possibilities out doc. i feel better anyway. anyone else got some wild rides like that we can call scott onstott about?

      2. Good speculation; indeed some of the rext evidence directly describes planets in mayhem.

        Re: veli; just need to see some inductive and deductivecevidence. Tge evidence is actually stronger for, as Naval astronomer Van aflandern poited our: deliberate action
        Dr. Brandenberg offers IRREFUTABLE evidence of nuclear war on Mars to hundred million years ago.

        For what it’s worth, that was also around the time of the Permian extinction, as well as the incredible break up of ancient Pangaea .

    2. Ambrogio Rossetti

      The Electric Universe theory https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/ is incredibly scientifically sound and its scientific movement is progressing, from both observational as well experimental view point (SAFIRE project). The evidences of electric plasma role at all scales is appaling avoiding all the ad-hoc of mainstream (dogmatic) science.

  3. There are several things that scientists have not worked out, or have sidestepped:

    One is the stupendous amount of nickel & iron in the meteorites that have been collected. These are heavy elements, which must have been formed/forged in the death throes of ancient stars. Supernovas and such. Why, then, is So Much around at the start of our solar system? Remember, this is not the lighter-elements we are talking about; it is star-core material. Having our solar system forming literally in the inner-debris-area of a ‘boom’ zone is highly interesting. So, why the ignoring?

    Also, there is the problem of large amounts of heavy elements (including uranium) right on the surface of our planet. By rights, anything heavy should have sunk to the core while the Earth was still molten. By this logic, anything heavy on the surface should have arrived so late in the game that it neither sank nor was recycled towards the core by plate tectonics. So, was there a Late ‘bombardment’ to bring-in all the heavy stuff we can scoop-up today?

    Also, I don’t buy into comets arriving from the Oort Cloud by jostling or collisions. Engineering-wise, you have to cancel an astonishing amount of momentum to get an object to fall towards the inner solar system. Gravitational-jostling just won’t hack it, and any collision strong-enough to get rid of 90+ percent of an object’s momentum would nearly-vaporize it. Something else is going on…

    Several other areas, but rant done…

    1. As Doc and Tom Van Flandern reported, the long period comets all got their start on n the orbital range of the asteroid belt, 3.25M y/o. The remains of the planet that was once there.

      1. KM, that ‘reslotted’ old info. Thanks. I had spaced (ha) that ‘boom’-association…

        The mainstream scientists make a big deal about only our Moon’s cumulative mass left in the asteroid belt. Not enough for a destroyed planet. Well, if the destruction of the Tiamat planet was energetic enough, ‘shrapnel’ would be thrown both outwards and inwards (momentum gain and momentum loss, relative to Tiamat’s orbit). This includes away from the orbital plane, north and south. Some may have been thrown WAAY out, and are actually making their first ‘return’ after all these mega-years.

        ‘Comets’ would have been plentiful in the first millions of years after the ‘boom’. Then, the major planets would have sopped-’em-up or gravitationally-slingshot them any-which-way (including into the Sun). Our present ‘comet’ population would only be the tiniest-remnant of that planet’s mass. Sad, somehow…

      2. Also, the ‘heavy elements on the surface of Earth’ problem would be solved IF that was debris from Tiamat impacting Earth over the eons since the ‘boom’. Most debris would intersect Earth’s orbit in the initial millennia with a random, ‘descending’ curve over time. This would be ‘Late’ enough that there would not be significant plate-tectonic recycling of those elements back (down) towards the core. Hmmm…

        (It is interesting to speculate whether the Extinction Event that took-out the mammoths, large NA mammals, and Clovis man – only 12,000 years ago – may have been a chunk or ‘gravitationally-bound-association’ of Tiamat material finally intersecting Earth’s orbit after all these years…)

        1. (It feels so strange/weird that Earthly heavy-element mining operations may be mining Tiamat…)

    2. I completely agree with you that the OORT Cloud kicking off comets is an incredibly silly idea. But it’s so far away, they can make you do anything.

      I am significantly interested in your analysis of the elemental qualities of our solar system. We are recycled

  4. Further, I would not be so anxious to give up the cometary theory, it has been expanded to show that it was not one impact but a whole series of impacts across the northern hemisphere, and if memory serves me a new group claims to have deciphered the Gobekli Tepe monuments to indicate that they reference constellations on the monument with some writing and an indication of a catastrophe caused by a comet.

    1. Not giving up on it; just saying that it was not a complete answer.

      The data do not support a claim like that. Multiple events.

  5. Robert Barricklow

    There is apparently ever-present conundrum of the observer[measuring] changing the outcome.

    1. Phil the Thrill

      Or, recognizing that observer and observed are a system, each interdependent with the other, perhaps it is ok to say, that which is observed is affected by the consciousness of the observer. I used to think that what I observe, is distinct from myself. But my skin is not an impenetrable barrier, my lungs interact with the atmosphere, I cannot determine that there is some disconnect between my eyes and that which they perceive…man, I tell ya. It’s weird!

      1. Robert Barricklow

        This observer conundrum goes very deep; and, at the same time can be simple. The observer here can be influenced by fakery, and the present arguments based on observations that were purposely distorted. Others can then be led astray, until a true course correction overwhelms the purposed deception. Or, it can go deep into the particle vs the wave.
        Or, it can be as Phil says, “weird”.
        Indeed, Alice In Wonderland weird.

          1. Analysis of MKultra-style video clip intelligently posted without soundtrack to prevent “copyright violation” censorship

    2. Robert Barricklow

      It appears that there are some who do not want mankind, at the as a whole, to know they’re true origin[s]. They either; obfuscate known facts, or related discoveries; dip six them; tamper with the artifacts, or substitute fakes; outright support known hoaxes; purposely misdirect[misleading translations]; smear and ridicule those that are getting too close for comfort; or doing God knows what to hinder mankind’s efforts to discover his/her origins – and thereby, perhaps, discover who we are; where we are going; and our true origin[s].

    3. Robert Barricklow

      This comment should slide through, as it is not derogatory to those that are directing the façade[charade].
      There are a number of intriguing theories like the aquatic naked ape, or those comets[?] that struck causing ice ages/floods[?], or the aliens genetic engineering, or combinations of these and other theories.

    4. Robert Barricklow

      The comment that didn’t make[expressed in longer script] that the powers that be[wherever they are?] are purposely derailing us/mankind as a whole, from finding out the possible answers.

  6. marcos toledo

    Atlantis the Great Flood anybody we are stuck with Bible-Koran creation history stories as the official party lines along side scientific evolution.

  7. Vomito Blanco

    I just wonder if Trump got briefed by the Deep State on Hancock’s returning comet Encke in 2030 and if that is why Trump no longer cares about upholding his campaign promises to the deplorables? Maybe the next Republican presidential candidate should warn about the doomsday meteor and campaign on the promise to give room in all the underground bunkers to everybody. Will the promise be enough to beat the Democratic candidate who will no doubt be promising voters a jubilee on all their student loans, mortgages and credit card debt? Does the American voter opt for debt relief and the chance to run up new debts for 10 years or does the voter choose the safety of surviving a doomsday comet in 10 years time? A conundrum for sure. I think many voters would jump at the chance to get out from under their debt even if it means they only get 10 more years to live. The opportunity to get an all new line of credit on the credit card and home loan is hard to pass up. But, living to an old age has its appeal as well. This kind of election would be a nail biter for sure. I can see Ron Paul now telling us to vote for the bunkers and then there would be Nancy Pelosi telling us we should vote for the debt jubilee and the shortened life.

    One thing is for certain, I’m not sure I want to live below ground with the likes of the Trumps and the Clintons. It’s as scary a prospect as this catastrophic meteor. Makes me wish I had never left my biobag.

    1. Phil the Thrill

      By the time 2020 rolls around, Nasty Puh-leezy may be too addled to remember just exactly what policy positions the Democrat candidate is supposed to endorse, and she may fall back on familiar talking points: “We have to elect this candidate to find out what she stands for!”

    2. And then there’s the Observer Effect. If everyone gets happy and sees life as utter joy, perhaps THEY will be the ones that survive the impact.

      I’d rather my chances on the surface, cultivate a deep trust in Nature and go from there.

      1. lazy counterargument McCormack McCarthy’s The Road (book and movie).
        ie nothing left of nature ‘cept people meat.

    3. vomito, it’s the standard left/right false dialectic. they’ll promise jubilee and deep underground bunker access and charge insanely high premiums (like multigenerational slavery) and deliver neither the jubilee nor the tunnels. george carlin proves accurate again. its a big club. n u n me aint in it.

  8. Phil the Thrill

    “The bias against human historical narrative, misconstrued through the lens of colonial arrogance, must end” if we are to know the truth….I agree. Now, let’s see what I can do to paraphrase the preceding sentence, to give it a little more oomph.
    “We have allowed the powers-that-be–the governments, armies, religions, and financial institutions–to hoodwink us human beings….” –nah, that’s not a paraphrase, that’s a re-write. Lemme try again. “For too long now, we have been looking at human history through the cock-eyed aperture of colonial arrogance…”–hmmm, lemme dial down the Henry James, and bump up the Hemingway a bit. “There is no hunting like the hunting of men, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never cared for anything else thereafter.” –Dangit, the Hemingway throttle is stuck wide open.
    On second thought, I think I will leave KM’s blog alone. It is perfect just the way it is.

    1. Vomito Blanco

      Perfect the way it is Phil but you have given it a little more oomph. Thanks.

  9. Thanks for the La Violette plug, but I’ll stick with the comet, which has many of the same signatures found in the KT boundary event, rather than bet on periodic galactic core explosions, which would probably mess up the galactic core pretty badly after a few of them had gone off, if true. Also, seeing as we are located way out in the boondocks of our galaxy and thinking of the inverse square law, then an explosion that could do such damage this far from the center would likely rip the galaxy apart, no? Perhaps it has and the apocalypse just hasn’t gotten here yet, but I kind of doubt it. What makes galaxies explode, anyway?

    Also, I don’t understand the purpose of the introductory paragraphs, which place such emphasis on time and dating, when later we’re informed that the dating doesn’t really matter that much. Is this cut down from a longer essay and we’re missing something?

    1. Hi, thanks for the comment. As I stated, the comet theory is not proven, and yes, a mile of ice would dramatically effect the energy distribution of a comet’s energy.

      But one problem with the comet hitting the ice sheet (which might have happened) is that still does not explain the origins of the Younger Dryas, a strange ice age if there ever was. Then there is also that pesky Beryllium 10, which is created by cosmic ray bombardment.

      Lastly, a close reading of the piece reveals the position that a comet does not explain ALL the data, but some. It also relates my position that multiple events were involved, which leaves open the possibility of a cometary impact as a part of the sequence of events.

      1. Beryllium 10 spikes when the earth’s magnetic field is reversed or disrupted, you saw exactly this happen with a brief reversal 41k years ago, and what’s not to say that the comet and aftermath created a temporary weakening or disruption of the magnetic field, leading to this anomaly? Would you then say that a galactic core burst cause that spike as well? Are these bursts flipping the poles? How do we know when these are in play and not?

        As for the comet not explaining the Younger Dryas, well I thought the mechanics were pretty well recognized, no? A big enough comet hits earth and creates a non-nuclear nuclear winter, precipitating rapid cooling — that pretty much sums it up.

        1. Also, the comet may not yet be proven, but are these galactic bursts indeed proven? I’ve read la Violette’s theory about them; he has lots of theories, some exceedingly ambitious, but where is the corroboration?

    2. There are future pieces coming that address the rest of the ideas on metrology and chronology. Thanks for noticing!

  10. In <a href="Graham & Carlson“>Mr. Graham’s and Carlon’s theory of comet impact, if a comet strikes an 2-mile thick ice sheet, one wonders how much of a crater would have survived…..

    1. LGL, you beat me to it! Firestone’s (et al) work has shown that the Carolina Bays phenomena has ‘pointed’ to an impact-area towards Hudsons Bay (since revised by some as towards the Great Lakes). Multi-thousands, if not millions, of shallow, crater-like ‘ellipses’ all project their semi-major axis back to this area. Indeed, the strange ‘splat’-like nature of the Bays point to Something making the individual splats that was mostly ice/water/steam. A comet most-fits this bill, striking onto the miles-deep Ice Age ice-sheet and ejecting a near-infinite number of ‘mush’ balls. No crater need have formed, if the energy was dissipated in excavating the ice itself.

      For mainstream scientists to ignore this GLARING evidence is ‘malfeasance’ of the highest order…

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