WHAT’S UP DOWN THERE IN ANTARCTICA?
It's beginning to be the case that I almost need a special "Antarctica" tab for this website, because it seems the strangeness of stories coming out of there just keeps coming. This week, so many people saw one version or another of this story that I know they were thinking what I am thinking: could this be the reason for the strangeness of the stories about the place lately?
Possibly. But before we get to all that, a brief memory refresher. Regular readers of my books and of this website know just how peculiar Antarctica really is, not so much because it's covered in ice, and is inaccessible, but rather because a very strange list of people are associated with it, and with those people, there are also strange stories. By now, we can probably recite the list of strange people associated with Antartica by heart:
(1) Rudolf Hess, (2) Hermann Goering, (3) Admiral Byrd, (4) King Juan Carlos, (5) Prince Harry (or was it William... they all look the same), (6) Secretary of State John Kerry, (7) the Patriarch of Moscow, Kiril III, (8) Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin, and, lest we forget, the elements of the Russian Baltic Sea Fleet are scheduled for a visit.
The stories have been almost as strange as the list. Admiral Byrd and Operation High Jump, as readers here know, returned from an expedition to the continent that was supposed to have lasted months, after only a few weeks. Along the way back home, Byrd reportedly gave an interview to a reporter for El Mercurio of Santiago de Chile, in which he warned that the United States would have to prepare to defend itself against "enemy fighters" (leaving the enemy unspecified) that could fly from pole to pole with tremendous speed. And of course, there are the stories of secret Nazi flying saucer bases under the ice (a story I've never bought, incidentally), a couple of Adolf Hitler survived in Antarctica stories. President Clinton contributed his own bizarre story by holding a press conference during his administration about a meteor from Mars that was allegedly found in Antarctica, which meteor also evidently contained microbial sized fossilized life.
As if it couldn't possibly get any stranger, there were also those stories several years ago that the Russians had "found something" near their installations at the vast under-ice lake Vostok; there were emergency evacuations at that time of people becoming suddenly sick (which of course fueled the rumor mill); perhaps the weirdest of all the stories was that the Saudis found something during an excavation around the Grand Mosque at Mecca, something which so terrified them that they turned it over to the Russians, who promptly (so the story goes) took it to Antarctica where Patriarch Kiril "performed ancient rituals" over it. Well, needless to say, I don't buy that story either (the part about the Saudis finding "something" and then turning it over to the Orthodox Christian "infidels" just isn't washing with me), but I mention it for the sake of completeness.
Then Buzz Aldrin decided, within mere days of Secretary John Kerry's visit, to visit the southern continent, and before boarding the flight in South Africa that would take him there, he tweeted he was getting ready to "go to the launchpad," a statement that I pointed out at the time could be taken as "astronautese" for boarding the airplane, or that it might mean that Antarctica was the "launchpad." Then, while in Antarctica, Aldrin gets sick, and has to be evacuated. A variant on the story also had him tweeting that what had been discovered was some "absolute evil."
Oh, and let's not forget, Lockheed Martin of Black Projects Fame also has a presence in Antarctica. Buzz Aldrin, John Kerry, Kiril III, Herman Goering, Rudolf Hess, and Lockheed Martin.
That's quite a line-up. The stuff of a bad Hollyweird B movie.
Well, now we might finally have a glimpse of what all the ruckus has been about:
Mysterious shapes and patterns discovered in Arctic and Antarctic sea floor
Of course, there is the usual blather that all this represents nothing strange or bizarre at all: all those polygons and so on are merely what happens when minerals and ice freeze. No argument from me. But of course, this doesn't really explain why Mssrs Kerry Kiril and Aldrin would be so keen to visit beautiful scenic Antarctica. I suspect, however, in the case of the second image, that the freezing-polygon explanation falls "a little short," for I don't know about you, but something sure looks artificial to me. And - what the heck - I'm willing to crawl out to the extreme end of the twig of speculation on this one, and say that my first thought, when I saw this picture, was that it looked like an electrical coil or installation of some sort. We're given no idea of the scale of what we're looking at, but it looks like "input, coil, output" to me.
In short, it looks like a "something", and that certainly would account for Kerry, Aldrin, Kiril, and Lockheed-Martin and the Russian Baltic Sea fleet. The real question is, did Hess and Goering have similar information, and if so, how did they come by it?
See you on the flip side...
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goshawks – May 3, 2017 at 9:37 pm.
What is fake news or not fake news is difficult to determine. But, I think, or suggest there are some clues to the photoes that are displayed.
What Carmen Boulters has revealed, using georadars to see what is beyond the Hawara complax, it is naive to acknowledge that this technology have not being used all over the globe to moniture the feature and the upper geological texture. So the under ice map of Antarctica is there, but only for the few. And what they have found is still a secret.
Because, I put up a wrong reference on another thread about this subject, about the floor of the seabed out of Queen Maud Land, showing it that the sediments 5000 years ago coming from a thriving benign climate, were claiming it was in the book of D.S.Allan and J.B.Dalair, ” CATACLYSM”, I found some weeks ago the reference in the book of Charles H. Hapgood, “Maps of the Ancient Sea King”. I am sorry for my confusion.
But, in the book of Charles H. Hapgood, there is a very intruiging map of the North Atlantic, the Zeno Map, 1380 A.D. It shows Greenland with a small icecap, fjords and valleys in the north that is now covered with ice. If you look to the south of Island, there is an island called Friesland. Today it is called The Faroe Islands. In todays maps they are only fragments of the original of the Zeno Map. You can sea the same feature at the Grand Canary, taking the ferry from Puerto Mogan to Puerto Rico, abrupt cliffs, 18 layers of different geoligical periods, a cut like a saw expenditure. And you can see the same feature in the Faroe Islands.. There must have been a very sincere geolical event that was happening there.
Then we are going to the socalled hoax, the Oera Linda Book. They are talking about the Altland (old land) that were submerged in the catastrophy that occured 2193 BC. According to Alewyn J. Raubenhaimer (a south african writer), “Cronicles from Pre-Celtic Europe (survovers of the Great Tsunami)”, in his understanding, there was a comet impact in the Indian Ocean that afflicted the Mid East very severe with salty rain, and by the way, the Ibrahims of Ur had to go west to find arable land. So there we are at another interpretation of history. But this impact was so severe that it affected the geolocal structure of the North Atlantic. Look at the map, page 339 in his book.
But, if it is true, that the Frisian people they were good seafarers (they had to sail from the Netherlands to Altland), before the cataclysme at 2193 BC, they could had been going that far as Antarctica, that were icefree centuries or millenials befor this event (according to Charles H. Hapgood). And I would guess that there were other people that had the technology and knowledge to sail a ship on the vast oceans with all the complexity you are challanging as a seafarer.
All the Best,
Dag
Dag, thank you for the info. I have both editions of D.S.Allan and J.B.Dalair’s book , separately-titled “When the Earth Nearly Died” and “Cataclysm!” because I consider them required reading for Earth-catastrophy knowledge. Their info on the Alaskan ‘muck’ deposits is especially disturbing…
On the Celtic ‘drowned lands’, if you look at a seabottom map of the area from Norway through the French coast, it is mostly shallow water – much like the US eastern seaboard’s Continental Shelf area. With that ‘lowland’ exposed during the last Ice Age, any sizable asteroid/comet strike into the Atlantic Ocean would cause a devastating ‘tsunami’ to cascade through that whole area. Near-total depopulation in minutes. A bad day. Then, the end of the Ice Age submerged that Shelf land for keeps. Sad. (When you are on the cliffs of the SW coast of England, the feeling of ‘drowned lands’ is almost palpable…)
Perhaps more Project Bluebeam type pre-conditioning. If there is to be an “alien invasion” (nextgen and wholly unassailable, unaccountable “terrorists”) of considerable violence then you also need their alleged “bases” to be in situations not easily monitored or investigated. Where better than Antarctica and not Area 52?
On a side note; 1996 – 6 years old Jonbenet Ramsey was found dead in the basement on Christmas morning in Boulder, CO. (She had a garret around her neck and was sexually assaulted) The father was president of the company Access Graphics, a wholly owned subsidiary of Lockheed Martin. I’m thinking he had been given a strong message to keep quiet. Also some pedophile falsely confessed to the murder while he was in Asia. Now I can see the picture a little more clearly.
Sandygirl, I was not aware of the Access Graphics/Lockheed Martin connection to the Ramseys. I must confess I did not follow this story very carefully since Jerry Rivers (aka Geraldo Rivera) covered it so dramatically at the time. His mock “trials” reminded me of Nuremberg, so I chose to attend another circus. You’ve piqued my curiosity–and that’s a difficult thing to do with respect to this case. Thank you.
Antarctica certainly seems to have taken a back seat recently… with North Korea and Syria and Russia.. and China.. what a wonderful show it is..
One thing that really.. really.. really needs to be looked at. (imho)
Lockheed Martin lost a 2 billion dollar contract.. that they dont even seem that bothered about.
https://www.your-poc.com/how-leidos-wound-up-taking-over-antarctic-support-contract-from-lockheed-martain/
Now then.. who is LEIDOS.. Well apart from being another stinking private CIA military industrio company… They also used to be called SAIC.
If those names mean nothing to you, I’ll let you look into it on your own time.. if you want. Otherwise I’ll get told off for leaving links all over the place…
You forgot everyone’s favourite cold weather country, TURKEY, is building a base down there.
https://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/article/21/02/2017/Turkey-plans-first-research-base-in-Antarctica
It would appear that this base is to let Turkey think that they will ‘have a say’ in the future of Artic and Antarctic policy.
I think that the base itself is actually… and get a load of this… legitimate.. and actually filled with real scientists…; (O.o) I feel woozy…
Burcu Özsoy.. Directrice.. The only thin I’m finding about her (other than she loves Artic Ice..) is that she worked a little bit with Nasa..well she was hovering around the Goddard Space Flight Center during her university time..
Dr. Bilge Tutak.. director..Now this is a bit weirder.. THe guy works with Tropical storms and water flow… Liquid physics? In my mind.. Liquid mechanics go slowly towards super conducting… but my mind is a weird place..
Another director…(director and she was out of University 2 years ago…???
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/271209973_The_Temperature_Jump_at_a_Growing_Ice-Water_Interface
I’ll keep looking into them. . but for the moment… looks like the real thing.
The only ‘suspicious thing’ is that the Turks keep going on about ‘having their say’.. They want to be able to have something to say about the Antarctica..
Of course the power went out just as I was about to finish my avant-garde post. Welcome to lamestream USA infrastructure; whose bottom line is profit. Repairs for these absentee owners are Lenny Bruce obscene[Zsa Zsa Gabor’s one week in Las Vegas makes what teachers earn in a lifetime].
So, recapturing some streams of consciousness – From the vantage point of our fearless leader’s commanding heights; they’ve come into some rather chilling information; especially, in respect to their sacred pyramid schemes of control/cages. Thus horizon lines of information are being dribbled out in a scripted manner to not only adjust to their currents models, but to this joker that’s turned up. These unforeseen future developments are then continually adjusted to control the vantage-point perspectives. All done to achieve misdirection. Yet, there are clues in their signature ink.
Is there types of Codex Symbolic key code to this?
OK. I must have broken an unwritten taboo. It must be the sequence of a given set of initials. It seems every time I used them and the word that naturally follows from a significant 1960’s event, moderation follows!
Nasa?
Nice try, but no. A former president who died prematurely in office while riding in an uncovered automobile in Texas and whose vice president was in the process of being removed from the ticket and charged with racketeering and murder. I cannot tell you how many times comments of mine went in moderation where his initials are referenced.
But the comment remains in moderation–and will probably remain there until it’s released by Dr. Farrell at some point when he’s able to get to it. I almost didn’t push it out anyway, fearing it was too long and of little importance.
One does not need to be thoroughly versed in the techniques of reading thermal images to recognize a con job when one sees it! The photographic shoes do not fit the prosaic feet! Therefore, the proposition that both the images and the explanation are real has serious problems. Consequently, I see only one of three possibilities:
1. Both the images and the explanation are fabrications.
2. The images are real but the explanation is a fabrication.
3. The images are fake but the explanation is real.
If the 3rd option is the explanation, there is no need for the images at all. A story does not need an image to make an impact. Still one wouldn’t fabricate images that violate the premise unless they were designed by an idiot without the proper scientific expertise. Though possible in these times, it’s not likely the best explanation. We are talking about a lazy media and secretive scientific community with respect to the release of anomalous data.
The 2nd option is the proposition to which most people, including myself, are most often inclined. Show the “real” picture (with a few touch-ups) to engineer the opinion you want them to believe so that attention will be diverted from looking more closely. This doesn’t change the attitudes of those who have real commitments to something happening there, but it is enough to cause casual readers to walk away satisfied. This begs the question which audience is the largest. Most people care more about the Simpsons (both real and cartoon) than they do Antarctica, so why bother at all. Could it be there are more readers who are committed to the idea of mysterious goings on in Antarctica than casual readers? If committed readers are larger in number, they would be far more discriminating with respect to the article and the pictures. These pictures and the explanation do nothing to settle the discussion with me, and I am open minded. Superficially it looks like proposition 2 is the most likely explanation.
Proposition 1 must offered and entertained. What if both the story and the pictures are fake? At some point we have to take seriously the idea that some secrets are so important that all evidence of the explanation must be faked in order to truly hide what must be hidden. We have to take their word that the story and the pictures refer to the same ocean terrain, yet both could be describing two totally different points on the globe. If we have not reached the place where this proposition represents “official policy”, we soon will be. Yet this proposition speaks volumes too. It tells us the story must be so tightly controlled that no data can be possibly leaked into the public without significant risk. However, some explanation must be offered because there are compelling reasons to seed the idea into the public consciousness for some socially engineered purpose. (Oh, we accidentally used the wrong pictures and the wrong story–but we did tell you we found an explanation for something weird on the ocean floor in Antarctica. We didn’t lie: we just printed the wrong story and photos.) This could be the geophysical or archaeological equivalent to the JFK assassination and Roswell memes. Yet all three of these do have a curious Nazi nexus. Now isn’t that interesting!
Joseph, you left out of your ‘summary’ the most intriguing (to me) bit of scientific data: the Lake Vostok magnetic anomaly. You mentioned it as a Tidbit (referenced article from 2001) in:
gizadeathstar dot com/2016/12/tidbit-yet-another-interesting-story-antarctica-lake-vostok/
At the time, I commented:
“A very interesting article. Makes me want an ‘update’ article, since this was from 2001. ‘The discovery of the peculiar Vostok [magnetic] anomaly underneath the ice — encompassing an area almost 3,000 miles in area…’ Assuming that Mike Bara meant 3,000 square miles in area, that is Huge. The city of Los Angeles covers an area of about 500 square miles. If artificial, what possibilities!”
Also, I just turned up another interesting melange of info on that subject; look about halfway down the article:
bibliotecapleyades dot net/antarctica/antartica07.htm
No mention of artificiality, but note:
“…As such it would also fit Prof. Gold’s hypothesis that there is a substantial – possibly world climate dangerous amount if released – volume of methane (as hydrate at the expected temperatures ???) plus oil and other exotic gas (He, X, etc) component to the hot water lake – sourced from the Mantle-Core along the upwelling structural plumbing.”
More strangeness!
As to the last, methane hydrate would make an excellent ‘power supply’ for any Ancient enterprise (or buried city), with methane also useful as ‘feedstock’ for many processes as well.
Also, if there is any truth to the Lake Vostok ice cores showing we are on the precipice of a new Ice Age, release of substantial methane hydrate could offset the downward temperature slide. Just saying…
Goshawks,
An ironic twist, where they froze Antarctica to hide it; yet, when melted to reveal it – it then triggers an ice age to hide it/in effect, a perpetual hide.
Hi, RB. Maybe I was unclear…
The Vostock ice cores indicate we have started moving into the next Ice Age, through periodic natural causes. Our 10,000-year-long Interglacial Period is finished, according to those ice cores. It is ironic that human-caused global warming may be the only thing offsetting the slow drift into a 100,000-year-long Ice Age, starting NOW. (Actually, the ice core data show the ‘natural’ tipping-point was 1000-2000 years ago…)
The ‘methane release’ through methane hydrate escape in Antarctica was meant as a half-joke to aid in forestalling the next Ice Age. So, a slow, timed melting-off of Antarctica may literally mean our civilization continues. Our descendants, in another hundred years or two, may be able to walk among the (possible) remains in sunlight…
If we get lucky, the new ice age will freeze over the south pacific and bury that continent of plastic floating ion the middle of no where..
think i read of multiple forms of evidence of sudden shifts into ice ages. probably from electric universe websites. one such evidence comes to mind in a discussion of how the earth came to its current odd wobble (22 deg precession?) compared to all the other planets’ rotation and orbits.
the discussion was about past electrical interactions in the solar system and their effects to and on earth – venus, mars, saturn,… coming close enough to earth to allow/cause interplanetary plasma (aka lightning) which splains structures like grand canyon with electric discharge machining much better than current theories of water erosion. such interactions can and probably did change earth’s rotation and orbit. it probably did change the rotation direction and angle a few times.
in all events the evidence of such sudden shifts that comes to mind most is remains of ancient frozen mammoths with clover and flowers still in their mouths. this is not as convincing as the mineral types and quantities found in geologic structures. these indicate mountain ranges and other structures formed in hours if not minutes of massive electric discharge rather than millenia of erosion and more or less stable environments. it’s the mouthful of clover that keeps coming back to mind though.
ZDB, I also have memories pop-up of that mammoth and the clover/flowers. The scale of the ‘Occurrence’ to have that effect in that time is almost beyond comprehension. I, for one, am incredibly curious WHY scientists have not jumped on that evidence and pursued the ‘trail’ remorselessly. Too scary?
velikovsky did. so are thornhill and talbott. no wonder we see electrical circuits everywhere. and no wonder we get such short and sparse glimpses of images that new tech makes easier to produce every day.
just like nongmo says about ancient culture images, anyone else notice how meteorologists’ images get more cartoonish and childish every day even as available imaging systems get better and better?
mr global does seem determined to mainstream more and more parts of the truth interspersed with disinfo. but it is still more and more truth than we were seeing brought out into daylight.
u tube dot com/watch?v=gX7HSNtLuO8
Vostok was pierced in 2001??
That’d be about the right timeline with all the new ‘UFO-typey’ technologies coming out.. from 2001 onwards..
I was reminded recently that straight lines do not exist in nature (nor anywhere but our minds, evidently). I am intrigued by Doc’s suggestion that one of the pictures looks something like a coil; this reminds me of the pyramid complexes in the Americas which, when viewed from above, look astonishingly similar to a circuit board.
I am beginning to agree with Alan Watts: the “Problem Of Evil” isn’t, really. Evil and good are merely reference points for the linear-thinking, two-sided logical mind.
“An interesting game. The only winning move is not to play.”
Hi Phil.. If you think that they ‘look’ like electrical circuits, wait until you take into consideration the piesoelectrical properties of granite.. and why they used Limestone.. (or Earth if you have to.. I dont think they had good insulating material in mesoamerica…)
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/98GL51179/pdf
Then just keep telling yourself…. Its a tomb.. built with diorite balls and copper chisels..
Why is it that almost all mainstream science articles relating to ancient civilizations or remote landscapes show cherry picked images that fit the meme / propaganda that they wish to present and then never give a link to the scientists full research or archive of images / evidence? (sorry that was rhetorical).
The 2nd image was clearly a heat map and yet the author of the article only talks about sonar mapping of the arctic and antarctic. All of these “scientific” articles are a set piece with the consciousness gating perpetrated through multiple choice tests in our schools. All evidence must fit existing (sanctioned) theories.
There is the question when did Antarctica freeze over and could it have been settled by humans before the big freeze. Or were there prehumen civilizations in existing of which this could be a remnant of evidence of their past existence a la At The Mountains Of Madness. Or evidence of a ancient alien crash or settlement site a la Who Goes There.
NonGMO_Alchemy,
You thinking is synchronous with Lucky Supreme’s Darby Holland[fictional sleuth] who admonishes those who think in a predictable/engineered range that shows an undisguised misinterpretation of value…OPEC, the diamond trade, the Mexican drug cartels, wine…so much of what people bought[think information] was based on the illusion of value “they” engineered.
I liked your/all evidence must fit existing[sanctioned] theories.
Robert – Exactly. I always pursue the “Cui Bono” line of questioning when I read any news story that does not include unambiguous facts and links. The current fear mongering around North Korea is a good example. Is this fear mongering meant for us or China? With decades of proof that North Korea has direct ties with the Yakuza in Japan and that the OSS (CIA) set the Yukuza up as the muscle behind the Japanese Liberal Democrats, it is hard to believe that North Korea is anything other than a puppet of Deep State objectives. Deploying THAAD in South Korea is a set piece with bombing Syria when Xi was meeting with Trump.
My son used to bring home finger paintings that looked like this.
Yup… it DOES look like a finger painting!