CERES: THE OCEAN OF TIAMAT
(This week's winner in the Contributor Posts column is this intriguing article and blog by Ms. K.M:)
This year is busy in the science department of the Nefarium, as an interesting article was published by the Institute of Physics in the UK. The article:
DIFFERENT ORIGINS OR DIFFERENT EVOLUTIONS? DECODING THE SPECTRAL DIVERSITY AMONG C-TYPE ASTEROIDS was published in January and is now coming to our attention.
It discusses issues that directly relate to the enigmatic question of Ceres’ origin and the origin of the asteroid belt.
One of the first facts about Ceres is its actual composition. I held earlier that Ceres was about 50% water. Spectroscopy, the analysis of light representing the chemical structures that are reflecting that light, reveals that Ceres is coated with a scant two micron layer of surface dust from the asteroid belt itself. The content of the object is mostly water. (>50%)
Astonishingly, the study points out that underneath this two micron layer, Ceres in significantly comprised of oceanic compounds. It states:
"The surface composition of Ceres appears to be dominated by (1) carbonates, (2) phyllosilicates (possibly ammoniated), and (3) enstatite. The presence of anhydrous material (enstatite) on a surface otherwise dominated by products of aqueous alteration (carbonates, phyllosilicates) was unexpected. (The Astronomical Journal, 153:72 (10pp), 2017 February)
OK, so let's unpack this. Carbonate refers to limestone. Limestone is most often the result of living systems. In other words, and country simple: sea shells falling to the ocean floor over millions of years. Phyllosilicates refers to compounds that have as their main structure that enigmatic competitor to carbon, Silicon. Phyllosilicates are found, according to Wikipedia:
“In geology and astronomy, the term silicate is used to denote types of rock that consist predominantly of silicate minerals. On Earth, a wide variety of silicate minerals occur in an even wider range of combinations as a result of the processes that form and re-work the crust. These processes include partial melting, crystallization, fractionation, metamorphism, weathering and diagenesis. Living things also contribute to the silicate cycle near the Earth's surface. A type of plankton known as diatoms construct their exoskeletons, known as tests, from silica. The tests of dead diatoms are a major constituent of deep ocean sediment.”
In other words, either it’s a big magma pool or the result of diatoms, in other words, living systems.
Now, let's talk about enstatite. Enstatite is created in magma and found in lava flows. As the authors point out, this is unexpected. What they mean is that if Ceres was an old thing from billions of years ago, they would not expect to find ALL THREE compounds existing together. Why? Because they are indicative of Earth-Like Conditions on Ceres, which because of its size is impossible. Only a much larger world, complete with a living ocean, and a hot magma center, could display such a combination.
In other words, we are talking about Tiamat, or Krypton. Ceres is the remains of the ocean of Tiamat.
Further (and this is speculative), the three bodies observed in the study, Ceres, Eugenias, and Hygia turn out a spectral analyses all very different from Ceres, indicating that more than one planetary sized object might be involved in the events leading to the development of the asteroid belt. The authors still hold that Ceres developed autologically outside of 10 astronomical units away from the sun. But they cannot prove it, and in my view they never will.
Occam's razor impels us to seek a simpler answer, albeit one with complex implications. That's Joseph's hypothesis as discussed in The Cosmic War.
The razor thin two micron cover, with an even higher water content than I previously discussed, means that the date of the Cosmic war could even be closer than 3.25MYA. If it took a few million years for Ceres to stabilize, and that event happened recently, less than one million years, then it would make sense that Ceres would have such a thin coat of dust over its water features.
Also, Joseph’s analysis of interferometry shows that a shake-apart standing wave must be geared to the composition of the object to be interfered with. It makes sense that much of Tiamat’s great ocean, five times the size of Earth’s, would not fly apart as the rocky molten core of the planet did. Water as a fluid has a different viscosity and density and therefore a different interference formula and it apparently stayed together after the planet shook apart and exploded.
That the Planetoid Ceres is the remnant of a larger world and Ceres once hosted complex life is now effectively proven.
That there is now evidence that not only was Tiamat itself blown to bits, but that other satellite's of Ceres or "other bodies nearby" may have been blown up along with it. Think of Dr. Tom Van Flandern's "Missing Planets" assertion that Mars was locked in orbit around Tiamat, was hit in the face by it, which wobbled in its orbit until it flipped southward, explaining why the south is so much higher in altitude. With Hoagland’s work on Mars, the Moon, and Pluto behind us, the work of Van Flandern giving us a date of 3.25 million years ago, and Joseph giving us the political and physical analysis of the war, combined with this recent scientific evidence means that all the pieces are now falling into place. We know what, when, and likely how. What remains, is who?
I’m just wondering if our genetic cousins are still “out there” with advanced tech, or degraded and isolated, with their own questions about being alone, with their own Enrico Fermi’s wondering why it is so quiet.
Source:
The Astronomical Journal, 153:72 (10pp), 2017 February
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Just wanted to gather a lot of links together to help me understand exactly what it is they are doing here… now I know why they are so excited.. The Meteorite is made up how they thought it ought to have accreted..
The big Whoozy ma Doo for me.. is on the actual article site page :
“Finally, we raise the possibility that CI chondrites, Tagish-Lake-like material, or hydrated IDPs may be representative samples of the cores of these bodies”
Why all of a sudden after lambasting about phyllosilicates and Enstatities and Hydrated compounds.. (organic??) do we suddenly in the final line, get a sudden reference to Tagish Lake-like material…?? I can only find an article about it in French.. sorry.
I’ll refer to my mega-dump of links on the community page in order not to completely lay waste to the blog page (follow link to the community as I posted above… go to the LAST link for Lake Tagish…)
This (to my mind) is very possibly WHY they want to create ‘on the spot’ DNA sampling technologies.. albeit the dark future Welcome to Gattica side of Eugenics.. yeh call it what you want, its still the Aryan Superhuman seeping through the NAZ(s)A’s mentality… They want to sample the Amino Acids that they are sure to find on Ceres.. maybe..
But its all good.. More proof and evidence of what our ancestors were really telling us.. before Bigoted Aristocracy came along and fubar’d archeology forever and ruined the messages being written in STONE on the walls..
(Figured out what got me modded: “T1tus-Bode”. Feel safer now?)
Intriguing article, Kelly M. What you point out may be why NASA chose to keep Dawn orbiting Ceres rather than heading-off to a third asteroid for its final hurrah…
You make good points. Whether it was a scalar or interdimensional weapon, or something ‘conventional’ like an antimatter weapon or a planetoid looping-through, Tiamat is utterly gone. I still like-it that the T1tus-Bode ‘Law’ predicts a planet in that orbital slot…
Orbital mechanics says that objects sped-up or slowed-down (by the boom, whatever it was) will take-up higher or lower orbits. They will then lead or lag the center of the remnants. Gravitational attraction will ‘clump’ material within these fragments, and you will get mini-worlds of different composition.
Ceres likely ‘clumped’ from ocean-dominated areas, as you assert. Vesta may be an original remnant from core material. (Vesta may have interesting ‘phases’ of materials formed under high pressure/temperature.)
Many interesting ‘clumps’ may have formed – including around space stations or craft in Tiamat orbit at the time. We may need some kind of penetrating radar to see what lies at the core of seemingly-ordinary asteroids…
Brilliant thought about vessels and space stations in Tiamat’s near orbit being encased in material from Tiamat…. makes me think of Phobos’ current condition as well as its substance.
Pellevoisin, thanks. Good point about Phobos. I have wondered about all the linear cracks and ‘craterlet’ lines on same. This might be explained by Phobos’ crust having no natural ‘core’ to bond-to. There would be a ‘discontinuity’ in materials (metal to rock/dust) at some point, and this might allow shifting/stretching/settling in the aggregates – resulting in the observed features. Intriguing…
Thanks for a fascinating post that decodes the purposeful obfuscation of scientific jargon, used to hide yet another uncomfortable truth in plain sight.
Uncovering the composition of Ceres must have been a real ‘Whoopsie!” moment for the scientists involved. Expect this information, hugely significant in its implications, to go absolutely nowhere. And now for some more pretty Hubble pictures of the Crab Nebula…
Low octane speculation (good for under water living).
remember Doctor Doolittle? (real name Doenstein) The Giant Snail? The giant flying moth to the moon?
Combine the two, dump on Tiamat. There’s the limestone from the shell, and a thin layer of fried snail mucus.
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Intriguing article, Kelly M. What you point out may be why NASA chose to keep Dawn orbiting Ceres rather than heading-off to a third asteroid for its final hurrah…
You make good points. Whether it was a scalar or interdimensional weapon, or something ‘conventional’ like an antimatter weapon or a planetoid looping-through, Tiamat is utterly gone. I still like-it that the Titus-Bode ‘Law’ predicts a planet in that orbital slot…
Orbital mechanics says that objects sped-up or slowed-down (by the boom, whatever it was) will take-up higher or lower orbits. They will then lead or lag the center of the remnants. Gravitational attraction will ‘clump’ material within these fragments, and you will get mini-worlds of different composition.
Ceres likely ‘clumped’ from ocean-dominated areas, as you assert. Vesta may be an original remnant from core material. (Vesta may have interesting ‘phases’ of materials formed under high pressure/temperature.)
Many interesting ‘clumps’ may have formed – including around space stations or craft in Tiamat orbit at the time. We may need some kind of penetrating radar to see what lies at the core of seemingly-ordinary asteroids…
Speaking of the Asteroid Belt. Who’s mining it? Where is the money going? And how do we get our cut?
Aridzonan, I would bet that somewhere out there, in the vast reaches of inter-derivatives space, there are asteroid mining futures lurking…
if you want your ‘cut’, you need to start investing heavily now in Space mining Corporations.
http://www.planetaryresources.com/#home-intro for example..
I remember reading a article in the Science eighties magazine about a planet four times Earth size blowing up four million years ago. In the area that is now occupied by the asteroid belt besides it was a water world. Besides Ceres there is Vesta could that be the nickel iron core of that exploded missing planet. And I have read a science fiction novel for juveniles about the rings of Saturn being a exploded moon that had been inhabited.
Enoch was given a tour of the Heavens by one of the angels. Apparently there are many dimensions to Heaven, each with its own purpose. He recorded, as best he could given the knowledge at the time, what he witnessed. Other ancient texts mention a war in heaven, therefore there are two sides to this war, which we may refer to as “good” and “evil”. As on Earth, the victors write the history to favor their side of the conflict which occurred. Apparently that conflict is still ongoing and the Earth is caught in the middle of it at this time, per those same ancient texts, with the final battle to be waged here. The question remains, whose side will we take in this conflict? Remaining neutral apparently is not an option. We have been given the ability to decide for ourselves which side we will take and it is a personal choice. It would behoove us to choose wisely as that final conflict nears.
“But the divine and the terrible are so close to each other. Nommo and Yurugu are partners; both are necessary. Osiris and Seth, too. In the Book of Job, Yahweh and Satan form a partnership. For us to live, however, these partners must be split. The behind-the-scenes partnership must end as soon as time and space and all the creatures come into being.
“It is not God nor the gods which must prevail; it is wisdom; Holy Wisdom.”
–Philip Kindred D.
Ok now, about that ocean on Tiamat which didn’t get scattered like the formerly solid portions of the planet, but which “apparently stayed together”…wow. It boggles my mind to imagine a planet getting blowed up, and makes me feel queasy for a moment to imagine anyone carefully plotting to do so. Heavy stuff, and good on KM.
As a student of astrology, it is hard not to imagine the shock to our DNA from loosing a planet in our solar system. Considering the precision in which the planets meter out our karma, I have to assume they were carefully put in place by something or someone for just such a purpose. Was the cosmic war a war on celestial mechanics? What would happen to humans if Mercury just exploded? Would we all becoming babbling nitwits who couldn’t communicate to one another? If Venus disintegrated, would we lose our ability to reproduce? It seems like loosing a planet of that size in our solar system would have tampered with past Earthling’s internal genetic mechanisms. Perhaps these past Earthling’s were dependent on the electromagnetic influence of Tiamat in their daily lives and when Tiamet was no more these ancient Earthling’s devolved into the apemen of the paleoanthropological record? Casualties of the damage to to our solar system’s astrological order.
Did homo sapiens evolve to the new astrological configuration or did someone have to come in and tinker with us to put us back in calibration with the remaining planets planets?
You may be on to something there, VB. They say our DNA looks to be surgically disconnected/re-calibrated; as opposed to, fried and toasted. As above, so below; the rise of Western-type two-sided logic, a mechanistic view of the universe, the regarding of the body as a collection of parts….and events in our solar system that look like a radical, invasive surgical procedure, like a colostomy or something. I wonder…the folks over at the thunderbolts.info site, those smart guys who extol the virtues of the electric universe theory, think that Saturn was the large planet in the ancient heavens which accounted for part of the “wheel in the sky” motif. Could that planet have been Tiamat?
It may explain the fish and frogs which fall from the sky from time to time. I would offer this speculation: someone, galactic gangsters(?), stole Mars’ water and held it for ransom. Mars couldn’t pay so its inhabitants moved to Earth to start from scratch. After killing off all the dangerous dinosaurs and other hominids, the Mars immigrants were able to make Earth safe for homo sapiens. The galactic gangsters couldn’t sell this water at a reasonable price to anyone else in the galaxy so they just left it there. And thank god! Now I don’t feel so bad about destroying Earth’s oceans with pollution knowing that we got a fresh supply of water out in space to replenish us one day.
One can almost hear Lieutenant Columbo saying :
Is the “Where” totally, completely ascertained” ?
Yes, scientific data is establishing a narrow windows for the “what ” and the “when”.
Another text suggests (arguably) that conflict was multi-dimensional:
By its very nature, the presumed torsion-type weapon employed in this conflict would be trans-dimensional, which then would indicate that war was waged in heaven (the heavens ? multi dimensions ?); which then would leave the resolution of “Where” beyond the current reach of our public science …
Granted: lots of nested conjectures …. 🙂
What about the “why”? What would lead a civilization to such colossal self-destruction? With the 20th century behind us we know that a full-scale nuclear war would leave the Earth uninhabitable, so the “victors” of the war would have no spoils to enjoy. What would have made the struggle of the ancient war so desperate that they were willing to sacrifice a planet in a solar system with so few habitable planets (together with the shock to DNA as Vomito mentioned) ? The only clue we have are the references to the indestructible “tablets of destiny”. As Joseph has suggested, they might have been somehow genetically activated. Perhaps it is the search for this “why” that generic science is advancing so frenetically in the 21st century.
The why was apparently about sovereignty for Tiamat and other worlds. The “Cosmic Corporation”, nee Pantheon was apparently exploiting Tiamat and other worlds. Tiamat stole the technology known as the Tablets of Destinies, which in my view was able to organize the torsion of the solar system. Having control of this would be the equivialent of possessing weaponized astrology. We can see the same idea captured in the Chinese masterwork, the Yi Ching, which is a reformulated version of “a much older work.” It is a “read only” version to use a computer metaphor. You can ask it about the unfolding. Perhaps it, because it is precisely designed to human DNA, is a descendant of the Tablets.
Astrology today is also read only. If it was “read-write,” then it becomes active magic with untold powers to manipulate things like time lines and “decisions” in the same way that observations manipulate the evolution of quantum systems.
Good one, Kelly M. That other posts too but your’s stands out for me.
Leo
“Weaponized Astrology” — that has to be the title of a blog. It’s a beautiful summary of the ‘Giza Death Star’ hypothesis. Just unpack that term and what you’ve said in this comment and that should make some interesting reading.
You also made some interesting comments in a vidchat about Godel’s research into Leibniz, and evidence that he may have actually succeeded in formulating the ‘characteristic universalis’. That I think would be worth exploring, at least hint at how much more is revealed in vidchats.
Please excuse my unsolicited advice; I just think this aspect of Dr Farrell’s work is too-little discussed, and you seem to be gathering some important info on it, would like to hear/see more.