THIERRY MEYSSAN ON THE REVOLUTION AGAINST POLITICAL ISLAM

Regular readers here know two things about my  attitude toward Islam: (1) I am definitely not friendly to its doctrine, and (2) I definitely do not believe every last Muslim of the world's billion-plus Muslims are out to "get" everyone else. From my viewpoint, the history of that ideology, especially in the twentieth century, has been one long frustration - usually by the imperial powers of the West, and particularly by Great Britain and Imperial (and later, Nazi) Germany - of the indigenous attempts of those within Islam to reform the religion and the culture. Indeed, for the German contribution to this sad story, one can read my The Third Way.

Which makes the following article by Thierry Meyssan, notwithstanding its glaring inaccuracies concerning early Christian history, all the more important, for as I mentioned in the previous week's News and Views, Meyssan's hypothesis is that Mr. Trump's recent visit and arms deal with Saudi Arabia is about more than just continuing the same old pattern of support of a royal-clerical state. The deal, Meyssan contends, could not have been made without commitments from the Middle Eastern nations involved, and particularly Saudi Arabia, to move away from "political Islam" and support of radical groups like the Brotherhood:

A wind of secularism blows over the Muslim world

Behind the hypothesis, however, Meyssan is also implying that there is a fundamental break between London - which in his view continues to support "political Islam" - and the Trump Administration, which he contends is trying to lead an initiative to break from prior policy of tacit support and funding of such groups and the states that support them:

We know today that the « Arab Springs » were a British initiative aimed at putting the Muslim Brotherhood in power and thus reinforcing Anglo-Saxon domination over the « Greater Middle East ».

For 16 years, the Western powers have been rightfully accusing the Muslims of not cleaning up their own house, and of tolerating terrorists. However, it is clear today that these terrorists are supported by the same Western powers in order to enslave Muslims by means of « political Islam ». London, Washington and Paris have no problems with terrorism until it spills over from the « Greater Middle East », and they never criticise « political Islam », at least as far as the Sunnis are concerned.

By giving his speech in Riyadhh, on 21 May 2017, President Trump intended to put an end to the terrorism which is consuming the region, and is now spreading to the West. The words he spoke did indeed act as an electroshock. His speech was interpreted as an authorisation to finish with the system.

What resulted, according to Meyssan, was something akin to uncorking a bottle that had been living under pressure for centuries, and now, with the bottle uncorked, the result cannot be undone:

What had seemed unthinkable over the last few centuries suddenly took shape. Saudi Arabia agreed to cut off all contact with the Muslim Brotherhood, and raged against those who continue to pursue their collaboration with the British, and particularly against Qatar. Riyadh gave the signal for a cleansing which will sweep much frustration along with it. In a spirit of Bedouin vengeance, diplomatic relations have been interrupted, and an economic blockade was organised against the Qatari population – while in the Emirates, a sentence of 15 years of imprisonment was established by law for any individual who showed as much as a little compassion for the inhabitants of accursed Qatar.

A gigantic displacement of forces and alliances has begun. If this movement is to continue, the region will organise itself around a new fissure. The question of the struggle against imperialism will wither and give way to the struggle against clericalism.

And this has led to a corrresponding "outburst" of editorials:

In two weeks, the Arab Press, which until now had viewed the Muslim Brotherhood in a favourable light, as a powerful secret organisation, and jihadism as a legitimate engagement, has suddenly made an about-turn. Everywhere, everyone is publishing denunciations of the pretension of the Muslim Brotherhood who want to regulate people’s lives, and the cruel folly of jihadism.

This flood of commentaries, the centuries of frustration that they express, coupled with their violence, makes any back-pedalling impossible – which does not, however, mean that the alliance Iran-Qatar-Turkey-Hamas will go all the way. This revolutionary tsunami is happening in the middle of the month of Ramadan. Meetings between friends and families, which should be consensual celebrations, sometimes turn into arguments about what until now had been perceived as the basic truths of Islam.

As Meyssan goes on to observe, even Iran's Revolutionary Guard harbors simmering resentments against the ayatollahs governing the country.

We then get a bit of complete nonsense regarding Christian history, which Meyssan assumes - like so many - was completely "clergy-less" in its early years:

Like original Christianity, which had no ministers (these only arrived in the 3rd century), original Islam and current Sunnism have none. Only Chiism has been structured like Catholicism and Orthodoxy. As a result, political Islam today is incarnated by the Muslim Brotherhood and the government of Sheikh Rohani (the title of Shiekh indicates that President Rohani is a member of the Chiite clergy).

If so, Christianity would be almost unique among world religions, especially from that part of the world, in not having any clergy; after all, it was an offspring of Judaism, and Judaism certainly had a clergy, and the rabbinate could be taken to be a kind of ministry in lieu of the ancient Hebrew priesthood. In any case, the Epistles of St. Ignatius of Antioch would certainly stand as a pre-third century witness to the fact that early Christianity was not the  clergy-less paradise that so many think it was; it was, on the contrary, very hierarchical and very sacramental.  Additionally, Meyssan makes more of Pope Paul VI's dropping the use of the papal tiara - symbol of papal claims and authority - than should be: for while the symbol was dropped, the claims were not. Indeed, when one reads the documents of the Second Vatican Council, amid all the modern-sounding verbiage, those sections dealing with the papacy itself read very much like the "old fashioned" language of Innocent III, of Pius IX and Vatican One: there was no diminution of claims whatsoever. In short: the tiara could return tomorrow, because what it symbolizes - the claims themselves - are still there.

But enough of that, for beyond this, Meyssan's view is worth pondering, for it carries some implications, some of which, Meyssan contends, are already happening:

Meanwhile, the whole region is buzzing - in Libya, the Muslim Brotherhood have left Tripoli, leaving a militia to liberate Saif el-Islam Kadhafi, and General Haftar to expand his influence. In Egypt, the General-President al-Sissi has asked his opposite numbers in the Gulf to draw up a list of terrorists. In Palestine, the political directors of Hamas have fled to Iran. In Syria, the jihadists have stopped fighting against the Republic and are awaiting orders. In Iraq, the army has redoubled its efforts against the Muslim Brotherhood and the Order of the Naqshbandis. In Saudi Arabia, the Muslim World League has excluded from its administrative council the Brotherhood’s star preacher, Sheikh Qaradawi. And Turkey and Pakistan have begun the transfer of tens of thousands of soldiers towards Qatar -which can now only feed itself with the help of Iran.

A new dawn seems to be rising over the region.

But assuming he is correct in his diagnosis, there are also some implications for the west, not the least is the cleavage between Washington and London, and this is where it could get interesting, for one implication of his analysis is that the Trump Administration has broken with prior British and American policy in a major way, and in so breaking, has broken with those factions within the American deep state that have been cooperating and to a certain extent leading and orchestrating the prior policy, including the tacit and very covert financial support of the same radical groups. We call them "neo-cons" or "neo-libs", and they have been running American foreign policy since at least the Clinton Administration, with roots in that of the G.H.W. Bush administration. On this view, Mr. Trump has set the fox loose in the henhouse, and if it portends major changes in the Middle East, and a renewed commitment to American allies there such as Saudi Arabia, it also portends a major shuffling in the "deep state". Time will tell if this effort will bear fruit.

And that means a long term effort will have to be sustained, for the nature of the change Mr. Meyssan is suggesting will be long term in nature, with bumps and fits along the way. What to look for? I suggest that if Mr. Meyssan's analysis is correct, then the response of such nations like Indonesia, a predominantly secular Muslim state, will be crucial to watch, for that nation is undergoing its own internal struggles against "political Islam". How such nations respond to this, how the Saudis respond to this, will be crucial in order for Mr. Trump's initiative to work.

See you on the flip side...

 

 

19 thoughts on “THIERRY MEYSSAN ON THE REVOLUTION AGAINST POLITICAL ISLAM”

  1. Is it possible to disassociate or decrease or shift focus of importance.any aspect of Islam if one is Muslim?
    Is not Islam an amalgamation of Political, Religious, Economics etc? What drives the action to alter trajectory to any believer in Islam ? What about other belief systems? Who has the call to change the belief system?
    Exogenous vs endogenous impetus?
    What is possible, and what is permitted vs sanctioned? In Islam is duplicity permitted in dealing with non believers?When and why? Is not the heart of the issue what is at the core of the call of Islam and how it is effected on a broad scale? Destinations can be arrived at taking a multiplicity of routes………..
    Which road is taken is seemingly of less importance………

  2. I see the current situation in ‘deep history’ terms: as dating back to the Tower of Babel Moment (ToBM). There, some ‘agency’ outside of general humanity decided to break us up. Knowingly, and with ‘extreme prejudice’. They HAD to know it would lead to the state we are now in.

    I am of the opinion that the ‘confusion of languages’ Biblical-phrase really means some form of interference with the deeply-human traits of telepathy and empathy. They are the basis of a ‘group consciousness’, as it were. With those traits, you can have a global society. Without them, individual egos and accumulating pain/stress guarantee schisms and wars. Whether it was some kind of a ‘dampening field’ or a damaging of our higher capabilities, they knew where to hit us. This was a Strategic strike, not a Tactical strike…

    Moving onward many thousands of years to 1529, look outside of Vienna at the siege forces around the City. The Ottoman Turks have conquered all the way from south of Byzantium (Constantinople/Istanbul) through to Vienna. In the turning-point 1683 Battle of Vienna, Western civilization Finally got its act together and started pushing the Turks back. Until then, there was a good chance Europe would ultimately become another Caliphate.

    This is the ‘deep history’ why some in the deepest state will do Anything to keep the Arab World broken-up and semi-powerless. Want to know their deepest fear? Search on Saladin. (Born into a Kurdish family, by the way…) The PTB remember the last time the Arabs really united. You can bet that – at the deepest level – they still remember the Siege of Acre in 1291 and have vowed ‘Never Again’.

    Until we find a-way-around what was done ‘unto us’ at the ToBM, we can expect neverending more-of-the-same. This is WHY all the separateness is there. We need – individually and collectively – to change our point of focus to beyond the distractions. To find a ToBM ‘anti-toxin’…

    1. A further thought: “To find a ToBM ‘anti-toxin'” is only a defensive response. If still needed, we also need to find a way to ‘push back’ at the ToBM Doers…

  3. Robert Barricklow

    The struggle continues from the various powers broker vying to implement uncontested national policies. Even the National Security State[whose continuous criminality falls under the invisibility cloak of national security]. Trump is continually checking his gum line to see if he has any teeth/bite as a selected president of the most U.S. 1%[after all he steals it; gets it].

    1. Robert Barricklow

      And don’t forget the proper frame into which to view this. The State Actors are THE terrorists. Of those states the U.S. is the ruling junk yard dog[junk bonds w/reserve currency status]. Though Israel is unabashed in her thirst for blood].
      So trying to broad brush stroke Islam as terrorist, even with all the major press choirs singing along, in synchronous tune, with the dancing ball teleprompters – is just a bridge too far.

    2. Robert Barricklow

      The neo-con, neo-liberal anaconda policies have certainly constricted the life out of many heretofore vibrant progressive policies; and, have fed the Islam fascist anaconda for too long, & too deep –
      then to ask it to release its prey is jus a little too naïve.

      More likely…
      Chopping of the hydra heads will be a Herculean task indeed. Especially, when the snake’s handlers are within your own circles of power.

  4. Christianity especially Roman Catholic structure is based on the Roman Senate via the Curia of Bishops. Before that the Sanhedrin of the Temple of Jerusalem all organized belief systems developed a hierarchical systems it called a bureaucracy. These are global spanning and in the end found they need a central command now whether it’s run by council of elders or single leader is up to what works or they are familiar with. As to Saudi Arabia it adventure in Yemen may in the long run do it in seeing what a disaster nightmare it
    has become. The Anglo-Saxons have not been in power in Britain since 1066 AD the real elite has been the Normans.

    1. 10 guesses for which Tribe William The Conqueror really belonged to (hint probably not Ashkenazi)
      https://duckduckgo.com/?q=william+the++conqueror&t=canonical&iax=1&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2Fcontent.answcdn.com%2Fmain%2Fcontent%2Fimg%2Fgetty%2F5%2F0%2F51244150.jpg


      if Trump was for real he would investigate 911 and investigate the Soros funded invasion of Europe (and the US) by agitated and sub intelligent Muslims and sub Saharan Africans, and so too would the Vipers of London if they didnt want an Outrage A Day, London’s Burning, Fortress Lies.

  5. So, in a nutshell, Trump sells a Yuge amount of war materiel to the Saudis, who cross their hearts and hope to die if they don’t stop funding whack-job fundamentalism and terror and who in turn decide to put the screws to Qatar because it is so manifestly small and rich and so yet more US war materiel can be sold to it, and out of all this comes — as the chemtrailed clouds part and a beam of celestial light pierces the Middle East and the hearts of every Muslim who has read the Koran and especially the parts about killing the infidel and permanent jihad — and suddenly the entire history and outlook of Muslims everywhere is remade; in a room in Mohlenbeek crammed with weaponry, a suddenly dispirited and confused young man pauses from fitting his sister with a suicide belt and feels a stirring in his heart…

    “This is wrong,” he said to her, unwinding the wires around her waste. “There is another way. ”

    In other words, pure fiction.

    1. Phil the Thrill

      Above, I provide links to books which provide a bit of history on early Christianity. John Lash’s work tends to sound more critical of Christianity than some may care to tolerate, whereas Macchio is very sympathetic, coming from within the Christian tradition himself. Macchio’s work addresses the thorny issue of Psalm 82 and John chapter 10, which no evangelical christian seems to know how to handle with any sort of grace.

      1. Phil the Thrill

        https://www.amazon.com/dp/083560795X/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I6XP3IYIMMGRI&colid=3QBPVL2RLY50Q

        Here is a link to a book written by a white American who is a practicing Sufi and is a very smart man, as well. He has interesting things to say about Jesus’ words being translated from Aramaic into Greek then into English. Dr. Douglas-Klotz has taken the trouble to translate Jesus’ words from Aramaic straight into English, Peshitta-style. Sooo, if “Our Father, Who art in heaven” sounds clunky, whereas “O Father/Mother/Birther of the Cosmos” speaks to something inside of you, then check out Dr. D-K.

  6. While the blockade is a serious move, it stops short of war so could perhaps be used as a bargaining ploy by the $audi regime. In any case, the latter has not as far as I know committed itself to sending a single riyal less in funds to its Wahabist agents from North Africa to the Philippines. The ties between them and the Anglosphere deep state are intergenerational, with 100 years of addiction to the oil money / arms sales còcktail; an addiction even stronger than ties with Tel Aviv. The withdrawal symptoms will get worse. Is there a clinic somewhere in the world to send the oligarchs to “detox”?

  7. Brilliant way to put Iran in a difficult position without one soldier in sight.
    If many “fundamentalists” flee there it might very well blow up in their faces.

Comments are closed.