We have recently started accepted guest blogs and contributions, and when Mr. M.A. sent this one, I knew I had to include it in this week's blogs. The reason? Well, regular readers here know we like to connect dots. But more importantly, they also know that one of my "themes" is that the Powers that Be, in their bottomless byzantine malfeasance, like to combine several operational objectives or levels in one operation. Think of it as a kind of "conspiracy counterpoint." Well, Mr. M.A. came up with an interesting "conspiracy counterpoint" as a result of some of his investigations that I thought worth passing along for your consideration. He's not the first to make the observation about the passengers on the flight that allegedly struck the Pentagon on 9/11, but he is, I think, one of the first that has suggested a very important speculation. Accordingly, I've highlighted a part of his short article that drove the point home for me.

Here's Mr. M.A.'s guest contribution this week:

"One of the most important things I have discovered during my recent years of enlightenment about alternate knowledge is revision. As I have learned more about what really is going on in the world I have gone back and revisited things that I had dismissed previously as nonsense only to now find I was dead wrong.

"Yesterday I watched Loose Change 911 again. My attention was particularly drawn to the section about flight 77 that crashed into the Pentagon. Points of interest were that the plane only had 64 people on board. That is only 30% capacity for that aircraft. I find it hard to believe a commercial aircraft would be allowed to take off less then a third full.

"Next was the disproportionate number of passengers who had specific expertise in security, defense and science backgrounds on board. For example there were people from Raytheon, Lockead Martin, US Navy, US army, Boeing, US Defense Department, Barbra Olsen and so on.

"'So What!' you may say.

"Well I remember Joseph recently talking about the assassination attempt on Hitler during WW2 and how the culprits were supposedly tried and executed. It is now believed the whole thing was a ruse to get these valuable people out of Germany without causing suspicion prior to Germany's capitulation. After all no one would be looking for dead people.

"I have often pondered about the Secret Space Program that so many researches believe exist. For such a program to exist, a massive, highly-skilled work force would have to be assembled. The program would need incredible security for a start. Then there would be no limit to the number of scientists and engineers required. Finally the shear amount of labour required for building, feeding, housing, medical needs and so on would be monumental. Where would these people come from? How would you control security, employing people from the general public?

"I believe Catherine Austin Fitts has made a reasonable assumption that some of these jobs have been taken up by uncredentialed boarder-jumpers coming into the US from Mexico. I don't believe these people would be highly skilled however.

"My revision of the Loose Change documentary has opened my eyes to the possibility that false flag operations can be used as a means of recruitment for the Secret Space Program. The passengers on flight 77 were all pronounced dead, their relatives believe them to be dead. All this with no real tangible proof that a passenger airliner actually hit the Pentagon. All those on board could have been recruited with little fear of exposure.

"We can also look at missing Flight MH370. It was reported that 4 Chinese scientists who had a joint patent with the infamous Carlyle Group were on board. The patent was reportedly for some type of cloaking technology. Could the disappearance of this aircraft been arranged for the purpose of recruiting the scientists?

"We can also look at the number of special forces that have disappeared over the years. The operation to kill Osama Bin laden comes to mind, when the helicopter carrying the seal team blows up in mid air: no bodies recovered and all Pakistani news was silenced on the incident.

"I'm sure it would be an interesting exercise for a list to be compiled by contributions from members who know of other false flags where recruitment could have taken place."

My only addition to Mr. M.A.'s thesis here would be that false flags might not be the means of recruitment as much as they are the means of "disappearing" people from one civilization, only to have them transferred to re-emerge in another, say, for example, Mr. Richard Dolan's "breakaway civilization." What I also find fascinating here is that seldom-discussed other plane that landed in Cleveland, Ohio, on 9/11: placed in the context of Mr. M.A.'s hypothesis, it does make one wonder. But whether recruitment or creating false legends of specific people's deaths, I think he's on to something.

See you on the flip side...

Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. Wacko on July 12, 2017 at 11:53 am

    It would be easy enough to find volunteers, throughout any organization, for a short term clandestine project. Of course they would later find out the time line had been a little miscalculated and they would not be returning…… recruiting agencies, no records and no problems.

  2. Jim de Wit on July 10, 2017 at 10:18 pm

    If there is a pattern of recruitment/impressment into service is tied to “accidental” deaths, then the selection of individuals might be a tell-tale as to what’s going on in secret. For example, a terraforming project would need biologists where a space war would need soldiers. Maybe the need for financial types hints at interstellar trade? The sequence of these would be telling as well.

  3. Jim de Wit on July 10, 2017 at 10:09 pm

    If there is a pattern of recruitment/impressment into service is tied to “accidental” deaths, then the selection of individuals might be a tell-tale as to what’s going on in secret. For example, a terraforming project would need biologists where a space war would need soldiers. Maybe the need for financial types hints at interstellar trade?

  4. Kahlypso on July 10, 2017 at 4:23 am

    Seems.. Overly complicated and ratherly too intelligent for the PTBs.. It makes for some insane HOS.. I dont think for a moment that a plane hit the pentagon..
    So.. the people on board must have gone somewhere..

    However.. I find it hard to think, that people would let their whole families go through the grief of death, so they can go and work on the SSP.. I mean.. these people are used to going on black projects and not seeing their families for a long time.. But to say, you’ll never see your familiy again.. that’s harsh – and I find it hard to believe, that they’d want the scientists and engineers who are working on their SSP to begrudge the fact that they are there… (kinda like Rogue 1 where you see a scientist put a major faille in the system on purpose in order to get some revenge..) So you dont say to the greatest mind on plasma field generation. . work scumball, your family already think you’re dead.. it can happen.. ok actually yes, they can do that and did it.. (thinking of the forced labour camps that the Germans put into place..)

    • OrigensChild on July 10, 2017 at 9:24 am

      There Germans were not the only WWII combatants who did these sorts of things. Russia, China, Japan, the UK and the US all have their own past and present forms of coercive techniques to get what they require from the general public. Some of them are not pleasant.

      9/11 would have afforded a perfect opportunity for conscripting new recruits into the service of the SSP and other black projects under the cover of a terrorist attack. It’s not like they have the moral scruples to avoid such an opportunity. They would even use JFK’s own words to defend their actions (just as they did when they killed him for what they called treason over the Bay of Pigs and the Cuban Missile Crisis): “Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country.” Oh, and in this context, their use of the word “ask” is only inserted to make it sound “polite.”

      Having said this, yesterday’s commentary was written too quickly and published without edits, so some things were left unsaid and others poorly stated. It happens. There is on other way to spin this top–the conscripts could have been delivered as a tithe to someone else. With the ritual component surrounding the event you cannot rule out the possibility of all forms of human sacrifice as payment for mercy. Granted I may be a little hyperbolic in my presentation, but the idea is a sound one. A breakaway civilization could use a human capital infusion from time to time to improve it’s genetic diversity.

    • OrigensChild on July 10, 2017 at 9:26 am

      Hey, Kahlypso, I attempted to respond to your comment, but it now lies in that dreaded quantum state of “awaiting moderation” again. So if you want to see the result of that experiment you will have to check the results later.

  5. terminally skeptical on July 9, 2017 at 12:20 pm

    So do all the passengers of those disappeared or destroyed planes live out the rest of their lives somewhere else completely closed off from family and all that they knew?

    If we assume a breakaway scenario how does one placate the survivors who were not an intended part of the exodus? Is it simply a life or death ultimatum?

  6. OrigensChild on July 9, 2017 at 8:47 am

    Bravo for sharing a matter that I have often considered as an explanation for the missing people related to 9/11. It’s the Alternative 3 scenario all over again, but this time with the possibility that recruitment for some workers was not an equitable choice. The Dysfunctional States of America has a track record of interment camps of various guises where peoples are drafted into a pernicious type of indentured servitude. Why not employ these techniques on scientists during false flags–but on common laborers as well. The armed services train people all the time for certain jobs–then place them into menial tasks for lower pay until they climb the officer’s ladder. Having witnessed the tragic events of that day while in NYC, and on discovery of the Alternative 3 scenario, this option began to take shape in my mind as a possible explanation for the operation. Due to the absence of death certificates at some mass shootings of recent years my thoughts have drifted there again for a solution to these missing people as well. It’s an idea I do not often share with people because people already think I am completely bonkers. Yet as a trapped visitor in NYC during this period I know how easy it is to hide details within one market without sharing them to the general public. There were many stories contradicting the official narrative of 9/11 published and discussed in NYC that never received any traction anywhere else. Loose Change chronicles many of these, but not all. If any agency can hide information so easily one without anyone questioning the veracity of the claim, that agency can indenture people within DUMBS or off-world just as easily. All you need is someone to publish the official narrative as gospel and promote it as truth. My word, the WWF is often more credible and honest than the media–at least it advertises itself as sports entertainment.

  7. anakephalaiosis on July 9, 2017 at 3:18 am


    Magnetic storm pyramid
    is a soaring spiral
    in wake up elevation
    of bird’s eye view.

    With a shovel knee-deep
    I dig vivid waters,
    and deeper and deeper
    I get nowhere.

    Language framework
    is floating free
    in creation of reality
    dreaming away.

  8. Yiannis Katospiti on July 8, 2017 at 11:04 pm

    Cathey O’brien -Trans-Formation America- she goes into details in her book about her being an MK Ultra slave. The NLP neuro-linguistic programming and being taken to NASA D.U.M.B.S and getting programmed .

  9. Pierre on July 8, 2017 at 10:37 pm

    They probably didn’t kill Jesus, just beamed him up and made him an offer he couldn’t refuse… though in reality one hopes, to give them enough rope, in time… real soon now I reckon.
    Willy Wonka with kidnapped kids for twin prostitutes, Interstellar with Judas Goat Michael Cain replaced with the Stephen King IT manacing clown for the Saturnian holiday in cambodia option, Eyes Wide Shut with children prostitutes, and Faust after the hangover. whatever, it would have to be alien, or at least, more alien than us humanoids. Well’s time machine and US being herded like cattle (goyim) .
    It would take a lot of convincing me that the lies were all worth it, and that they were not lying still. What would they take me for, an enslaved freemason?

  10. Jon on July 8, 2017 at 4:19 pm

    And one wonders about all such people who go missing or presumed dead – did all those bankers really die, or were they offered a role in the breakaway civilization? With the right kind of pull, death can be pretty easy to fake these days.

    We also can’t forget all the people missing in war zones, etc., especially young children. Get them young enough and you can train them any way you want – they won’t know any different. Tell them there was a nuclear war, raise them underground, and teach them to be your new Space Legion. This is what has been done to tens of thousands of Arabic orphans to staff groups like ISIS.

    It is reasonable to assume that anyone caught up in an event who was not part of the program would be given the choice to “join the team” or become collateral damage – what would you do?

    The movie “Millenium” with Kris Kristofferson and Cheryl Ladd detailed an operation where a doomed human race in the future would go back in time and pull living people out of a plane or other mass transportation vehicle and replace them with matching corpses in order to repopulate with healthier people. One could easily imagine a similar type of operation based in our own time for the purposes of populating a black project program.

    This subject was also dealt with a number of times in the Stargate SG-1 TV series – one episode in particular had a billionaire with black project ties trying to go public with disclosure after gaining evidence of an off-world battle being fought over Antarctica. When he cannot be dissuaded after being “debunked” by Stargate Command, he is targeted by a rouge faction of the Black Projects world (the Trust, a criminal banking/industrial/intelligence organization) and ultimately being offered refuge off-world in return for working for Stargate command. (Episode 808 – Covenant – you can check out for a more detailed synopsis.)

    People may be tired of me saying this, but SG-1 is a very good series to examine the issues of a breakaway civilization. Despite it’s “Hollyweird” wrapping as an action series, the is much intelligent and passionate discussion of the logistics, ethics, politics, morality, etc., of such a breakaway situation, especially as it would unfold being run by the US military. The fact that our “heroes,” SG-1, are the voice of reason, compassion, sanity, and ethics, is refreshing, and I think showcases the nobler side (the “sheepdog” mentality) of the better members of our military and first responders. I like to believe that there really are people with that high a standard of ethics and behavior in the breakaway civilization, and, if so, they are our best hope for a sane and “human” future.

    • James Woolsey on July 8, 2017 at 9:36 pm

      Here’s another one where I now put the pieces together differently.
      We know that strategic air force pilots in the 50’s flying over Alaska noted the increasing shift of the magnetic pole. shortly thereafter there is a Pentagon briefing on impending possible mass panics.
      COG starts building underground cities and retreats which continues to this day.
      Next they start geo-engineering … i.e., chemtrails, which seems idiotic! wouldn’t that affect everyone above ground?
      but not if you’re below ground because you have insider info that things are heating up in the entire solar system.
      David Wilcock has summed this up nicely in his latest Gaiam TV Wisdom series.
      NASA has known for some years that the Pioneer probes out beyond Pluto at the edge of our protective heliosphere, have detected a massive magnetic “cloud” called the Fluff cloud. The high energy “cloud” is going to cook all the frogs in our solar system.
      Misdirection about climate change, etc, keeps the rubes distracted. Meanwhile the elites either go off planet or underground.
      So back to chemtrails. The efforts to electrify earth’s atmosphere may be an experiment to lessen the effect of the coming surges in plasma that will hit earth. It is a given that many will not survive, so being practical hard heads, what matters it if many suffer and get ill from the side f/x if it allows an Ark of humanity to make it through?
      This will be a transition or birth into a more highly charged world, and bodies will have to evolve. If you go down the “ascension” path, it may also be like waking from a dream into a new reality. How much would we remember? “Wake up Joseph” says his mom gently shaking him. “It was only a bad dream!”

      • Robert Barricklow on July 9, 2017 at 11:44 am

        Heard about this and other forms of destruction headed our way. Too bad “our” leadership keeps “us” in the dark about this “possibility”, and other scenarios, discovered under the rubric of the public dime in the “people’s/national” interest.

        • Sandygirl on July 9, 2017 at 1:09 pm

          The people who think they have a room reserved in the basement would do well to watch that Twilight Zone episode “It’s a cookbook.”

          • Robert Barricklow on July 9, 2017 at 8:06 pm

            To Serve Mankind

    • Jim de Wit on July 10, 2017 at 9:54 pm

      I like your Stargate reference. Occasionally I wonder if the show is a recruitment/training/morale tool for the Breakaways.
      “Hey Mr. Navy Seal, how would you like to work for the real Stargate?”
      “Absolutely, I watched all the episodes growing up.”
      “That’s good, because most of those stories are based on real missions.”
      “Cool. Does that mean my missions will be in shows too someday?”
      “In all probability, and when the secrecy is eventually lifted, you’ll be able to tell your kids which episodes were your missions.”

      • DanaThomas on July 11, 2017 at 4:02 am

        A morale booster? That’s a thought. Whatever the “breakaway” technological marvels, the human aspect must NOT be very pleasant, considering the penchant for all forms of mind control and worse among that crowd.

  11. Syncromyst on July 8, 2017 at 4:13 pm

    Great post! Absconding or enslaving the necessary scientist/high tech talent would be consistent with the Third Reich, most probably used by the Fourth.

    Two other “recruiting” conditions come to mind. The first, with the advancement of tech the need for human labor has greatly declined, so no need for millions of people.

    The second, anyone can enter through a porous border.

  12. marcos toledo on July 8, 2017 at 1:57 pm

    I remember reading a science fiction story that dealt with disappearing of people to a secret space colonization program. I don’t remember the title but some member on this website can come up with the title. Faking one demise is the oldest trick in the book to go off the radar so to speak.

  13. goshawks on July 8, 2017 at 1:40 pm

    Mr. M.A., a good insight! Funny, I had just read the first paragraphs and thought ‘What about MH370?’. Lo and behold, there it was, a few paragraphs further-on.

    I had done research on the Pentagon hit, and the ‘blast’ pattern is all wrong for an airliner. There should have been massive, crumpled-up aluminum from the fuselage within the first ring or so (remember, the outer wall was heavily-reinforced) with nothing proceeding deeper. There should have also been two spear-like penetrat1ons from the engine cores, going way-deep. Instead, published damage-diagrams show one very-deep penetrat1on centered on the small (initial) entrance hole. It looks much like a high-speed penetrat1on of a small, dense object with perhaps a shaped-charge, blast-warhead…

    Given this an alysis and the laughable ‘crater’ formed by the fourth aircraft, I had wondered about all the passengers’ TRUE fate. Mr. M.A. gives a plausible answer. The only question is whether this was a true ‘recruitment’ (volunteering), or the faux-passengers were told to obey or be killed…

  14. Aridzonan_13 on July 8, 2017 at 12:33 pm


  15. Robert Barricklow on July 8, 2017 at 12:28 pm

    Ken Lay comes to mind. The take the money n run[Enron].
    Methinks there is genuine fire in all this death, smoke & mirrors. [Like the death of tobacco.]
    Now all we need is “proof” of life after death.

  16. John G. on July 8, 2017 at 12:23 pm

    Sounds plausible, that the ‘plane crash’ was a cover for the recruitment of engineers and researchers for the Secret Space Program.

    Another possibility, more mundane: that 9/11 and other programmed disasters have multiple purposes, some of which are to distract, to depress, to cause fear, etc. (in addition to allowing recruits to relocate, on or off planet). A really sharp fellow named Miles Mathis has pieced together convincing-to-me papers that posit that many disasters — e.g., Sharon Tate murders, MLK assassination — and events — e.g., Lindbergh’s crossing of the Atlantic — were hoaxes, in which no one died (and in which, it appears, Sharon Tate, years later, lived out in the open, under a created sister’s name) or which did not happen. It is hilarious what The Cabal posts in plain sight on Wikipedia, which upon close examination, makes no sense.

  17. Phil the Thrill on July 8, 2017 at 10:37 am

    A very interesting article, and I offer no logical challenge to its premise. I would state, however, that in the case of the Seal Team 6 members (credited with capturing Mr. Osama), the more likely explanation is that they were actually offed–snuffed in real life. This would be the case because Mr. Osama actually DID pass away in December of 2001; a dead enemy being a useless enemy, he was revived via technology for the unsuspecting public’s consumption; and too many Team 6 members knew that their “raid” was nothing but a big show, for them to be allowed to continue breathing.
    In the case of MH 370, it was reported that the 5th patent holder is Jacob Rothschild; it was further reported that, upon the death(s) of people holding a share of any patent, the living patent holder(s) acquire those shares. That would leave our Mr. Burns look-alike sitting quite pretty; the sole patent holder of a stealth technology.

  18. WalkingDead on July 8, 2017 at 9:35 am

    “Atlas Shrugged” comes to mind, a fanciful tail of alternate energy and disappearing scientists and industrialists. Odd how sometimes, books, movies, and the occasional TV mini series mimics life or foretells of things to come; almost as if they are compelled to let you in on it in a round about way. Good is the root of all human knowledge and values β€” its absence the root of all evil.
    Much like real life and the “elite” the story can be summed up as Sociopathic idealized nerds collapse society because they don’t get enough hugs.

    • george on July 8, 2017 at 4:15 pm

      Also there was a sci-fi TV miniseries called Ascension.. shows the twisted working of a breakaway space civilization

  19. DanaThomas on July 8, 2017 at 6:26 am

    This is an insight to ponder, so much is hidden in “plane sight” (pun intended). In minute 26 of the film, they mention an exercise called ” amalgam virgo ” where 2 fbi agents were to hijack airliners and “take them to secure locations”, a phase supposedly never executed. Now if the secret space (or secret Antarctic?) disappearance hypothesis is correct, it would either be involuntary or voluntary. Let’s say it’s more or less voluntary on the assumption that outright slave labour is inefficient for higher level experts. But this would still require a very special personality, something like a religious fanatic, willing to abandon family and friends (if they had any?) in exchange for a leading role in a place beyond their wildest dreams. Now that the dust has settled, a detective investigation could perhaps be done on these people to see if they fit the bill. And also following leads that researchers are using in the increasing spate of staged events like (I have to be a little graphic here) the credible identification of body parts. Strange how huge cases are build up around the alleged discovery of a drop of saliva while in huge public events there is none of the real evidence of decease that the courts would ordinarily require. Finally, there are the circumstances of the funerals, to check for the now-recognised tell-tale signs of fake obsequies in which attendees in the know are quite evidently NOT grieving and have agreed to keep quiet after getting “an offer they can’t refuse”. In which case there would be yet further “loose change” to check.

  20. Eve Leung on July 8, 2017 at 6:14 am

    Actually I’m very curious about those who join the Break Away Civilization, what is their major motivation for joining it, what are the attraction for the Break Away Civilization? A ticket to a more superior life style? LOL Don’t get me wrong, I’m more curious about what are the B.A.C. doing than want to participating it.

    • XAydMary on July 8, 2017 at 7:48 am

      I am going to guess that people being recruited are told that the Earth is in danger from Nibiru, asteroid strike or whatever, Global Warming is the cover story. Then they are shown the underground bunkers as proof.

    • goshawks on July 8, 2017 at 2:50 pm

      Eve Leung, I’m guessing that they are shown some ancient artifacts/technology – human-based or not. With that as a teaser, the ‘offer’ follows…

    • Pellevoisin on July 8, 2017 at 3:44 pm

      I suspect that are shown that they all have a certain ancient DNA sequence that guarantees them a place in the New World Order… albeit off-world order.

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