...well, there may have been more to that recent Russo-Saudi summit than meets the eye...

One Day After Historic Saudi-Russian Summit, US Suspends Military Exercises With "Arab Allies"

Saudi Arabia to produce Russian Kalashnikovs under new deal

Joseph has some high octane speculation to throw into the mix...

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. Robert Barricklow on October 13, 2017 at 2:21 pm

    They’re also signing contracts to change their black gold into yuan[backed by gold].
    After the 30 years war the political powers began to drift more into the realms of private economic powers; giving charters[corporate powers] to different sectors of the Kings/Queens realm.
    The Westphalia angle is spot on.
    But the West is not progressing; they’re regressing. Going back to the Kings/Queens realms and the feudal system where the 1% ruled. The rule by the worst form of violence there is: Structural Violence built into the system; is in fact, systemic violence.
    The only difference is the…

    • Robert Barricklow on October 13, 2017 at 2:27 pm

      mickey mouse golden handcuffs[patents]; the punish/profit Justice systemic corruption, burnished by the latest technology shackles; the internet’s spyware/malware industries; one go on and on like the ever ready feudalized bunny, touching everything into digitized, centralized, monetized control.

  2. Philip on October 13, 2017 at 12:41 am

    I would imagine that there are 2 versions of these systems…the home version and the export version, and the export version while effective will probably lack some of the more advanced tech of the home version. I should imagine Putin is well aware of the fact that any equipment sold to such as Saudi will inevitably end up in US hands. So he’ll take steps to limit what the US can learn from exported equipment.

    • goshawks on October 14, 2017 at 11:02 pm

      True. With the Saudis ‘demanding’ the most advanced model, it would be interesting to see how far Putin bends for the sale…

  3. goshawks on October 13, 2017 at 12:08 am

    As Joseph was talking about the S-400 anti-aircraft missile deal, I couldn’t help but reflect on a visit to a certain USAF base, decades back. This base had dozens of Soviet anti-aircraft missile radars and paraphernalia, obtained through ‘back channel’ sources. USAF engineers and private contractors were ‘back-engineering’ these systems, to understand them for technology-gain and to develop countermeasures.

    Fast-forward to the S-400 deal: US (and Israel) is concerned about the capability of the S-400 missile system. It is used to guarantee Syrian airspace against *ahem* aerial provocations. So, how to get ahold of the complete system, missiles & radar & computers?

    My thought is that the multi-billion ‘arms deal’ with the Saudis is just to get USAF hands on a complete S-400 system. All the other products are just obfuscation, although useful. Whether it is dismantled and pored-over in Saudi Arabia or “somehow” ends up at that USAF base above, I suggest that access to a complete S-400 system may be at the core of this unexpected ‘kissy-kissy’ arrangement…

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