FLASH! ENTANGLEMENT APPLIES TO TIME AND NOT JUST SPACE!

If you're thinking I've been having far too much fun the past couple of days with my "physics-related" blogs, you'd be correct. I am having fun. Yesterday, I blogged about an article that appeared at phys.org in which scientists were proposing a sophisticated waveguide method of "trapping" or "stopping" light, effectively reducing its speed to zero in that system.  It was, as I proposed yesterday, a "noodle-baker."

Well, today's story was spotted and shared by Mr. V.T., and it's another noodle-baker, with all sorts of ramifications of its own:

You thought quantum mechanics was weird: check out entangled time

Now, most readers here I suspect have some awareness or knowledge of the weird feature within quantum mechanics called entanglement. The idea itself is fairly simple; it's the ramifications of it that become "noodle-baking":

The problem is that entanglement violates how the world ought to work. Information can’t travel faster than the speed of light, for one. But in a 1935 paper, Einstein and his co-authors showed how entanglement leads to what’s now called quantum nonlocality, the eerie link that appears to exist between entangled particles. If two quantum systems meet and then separate, even across a distance of thousands of lightyears, it becomes impossible to measure the features of one system (such as its position, momentum and polarity) without instantly steering the other into a corresponding state.

Up to today, most experiments have tested entanglement over spatial gaps. The assumption is that the ‘nonlocal’ part of quantum nonlocality refers to the entanglement of properties across space.But what if entanglement also occurs across time? Is there such a thing as temporal nonlocality?  (Emphasis added)

For example, could a future in system "X" be entangled with a "past" or "present" in system "Y", and could information therefore pass from one to the other instantaneously? Answer:

The answer, as it turns out, is yes. Just when you thought quantum mechanics couldn’t get any weirder, a team of physicists at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem reported in 2013 that they had successfully entangled photons that never coexisted. Previous experiments involving a technique called ‘entanglement swapping’ had already showed quantum correlations across time, by delaying the measurement of one of the coexisting entangled particles; but Eli Megidish and his collaborators were the first to show entanglement between photons whose lifespans did not overlap at all.

Here’s how they did it. First, they created an entangled pair of photons, ‘1-2’ (step I in the diagram below). Soon after, they measured the polarisation of photon 1 (a property describing the direction of light’s oscillation) – thus ‘killing’ it (step II). Photon 2 was sent on a wild goose chase while a new entangled pair, ‘3-4’, was created (step III). Photon 3 was then measured along with the itinerant photon 2 in such a way that the entanglement relation was ‘swapped’ from the old pairs (‘1-2’ and ‘3-4’) onto the new ‘2-3’ combo (step IV). Some time later (step V), the polarisation of the lone survivor, photon 4, is measured, and the results are compared with those of the long-dead photon 1 (back at step II).

Now, given yesterday's little high octane speculation about "stopped light," I cannot resist quoting a few more paragraphs from this article:

What on Earth can this mean? Prima facie, it seems as troubling as saying that the polarity of starlight in the far-distant past – say, greater than twice Earth’s lifetime – nevertheless influenced the polarity of starlight falling through your amateur telescope this winter. Even more bizarrely: maybe it implies that the measurements carried out by your eye upon starlight falling through your telescope this winter somehow dictated the polarity of photons more than 9 billion years old.

Lest this scenario strike you as too outlandish, Megidish and his colleagues can’t resist speculating on possible and rather spooky interpretations of their results. Perhaps the measurement of photon 1’s polarisation at step II somehow steers the future polarisation of 4, or the measurement of photon 4’s polarisation at step V somehow rewrites the past polarisation state of photon 1. In both forward and backward directions, quantum correlations span the causal void between the death of one photon and the birth of the other.

Just a spoonful of relativity helps the spookiness go down, though. In developing his theory of special relativity, Einstein deposed the concept of simultaneity from its Newtonian pedestal. As a consequence, simultaneity went from being an absolute property to being a relative one. There is no single timekeeper for the Universe; precisely when something is occurring depends on your precise location relative to what you are observing, known as your frame of reference. So the key to avoiding strange causal behaviour (steering the future or rewriting the past) in instances of temporal separation is to accept that calling events ‘simultaneous’ carries little metaphysical weight. It is only a frame-specific property, a choice among many alternative but equally viable ones – a matter of convention, or record-keeping.

I cannot help but pause and inject a little more high octane speculation here, for it sounds like what is really being done here is the creation of common surfaces(as it were) between two different timelines that share certain common elements. (And for those into parapsychological research, it is intriguing to note that future influences on the present have been repeatedly demonstrated in pre-cognitive experiments. Perhaps temporal entanglement is the basis of such phenomena. Some have suggested it!). It is as if we're reducing the multi-verse theory to a theory of "one universe, many timelines", because in this case, those timelines can interact with each other.

Let that one soak in for a moment.

Lest I be thought as having crawled out to the end of the speculation twig so far that I've again fallen off it, at least I'm in the company of other falling speculators:

The various frames of reference in the Hebrew University experiment (the lab’s frame, photon 1’s frame, photon 4’s frame, and so on) have their own ‘historians’, so to speak. While these historians will disagree about how things went down, not one of them can claim a corner on truth. A different sequence of events unfolds within each one, according to that spatiotemporal point of view. Clearly, then, any attempt at assigning frame-specific properties generally, or tying general properties to one particular frame, will cause disputes among the historians. But here’s the thing: while there might be legitimate disagreement about which properties should be assigned to which particles and when, there shouldn’t be disagreement about the very existence of these properties, particles, and events.

Of course, all of this relates to the physics of the very small quantum world. It's far from asserting similar effects of a macrocosmic nature. But while I was in high octane speculation mode, I couldn't help but wonder if in fact there might not be macrocosmic effects. After all the article itself suggests that there could be. Consider this paragraph once again:

What on Earth can this mean? Prima facie, it seems as troubling as saying that the polarity of starlight in the far-distant past – say, greater than twice Earth’s lifetime – nevertheless influenced the polarity of starlight falling through your amateur telescope this winter. Even more bizarrely: maybe it implies that the measurements carried out by your eye upon starlight falling through your telescope this winter somehow dictated the polarity of photons more than 9 billion years old.

Indeed, the article takes a giant leap of its own speculation by proposing that such "time-entangled" systems might have ramifications for historiography, and for memory: "The various frames of reference...have their own 'historians' so to speak", and therewith, their own historiographies and memories.  I couldn't help but think that yesterday's "light stopping waveguides" might be directly related to this phenomenon, and perhaps be a way to "scale it up" to a non-quantum level to gain a measure of influence over macrocosmic timelines themselves, via careful manipulations of the Observer effect.

I'll leave it off there, because this is noodle-baking enough. But I'll leave it off with one more question:

Mandela effect, anyone?

See you on the flip side...

 

29 thoughts on “FLASH! ENTANGLEMENT APPLIES TO TIME AND NOT JUST SPACE!”

  1. Was Albert correct about ‘C’? He did say it would only take one experiment to prove him wrong!

    EPR is a strange place and because of Werner H.’s uncertainties, we know there are limits to our measurements, but what are they?

  2. Hey there! Just thought I would point out that you mean to write “mandala” not Mandela, who was a South African freedom fighter vs. appartheid. Otherwise, I understand about half of what you have written here, but such should not worry you… it’ my problem, not yours… (probably…)

    1. In the sense that Dr.Farrell uses the term “Mandela Effect” above he alluding to an anomaly (possibly induced) of remembering certain events. In the case of Mandela’s death some people have reported that they remember Mandela having died only later to realize that he was, in fact, alive. It has nothing to do with a mandala.

  3. While I’m not a physics major I can conceptualize some of this and seems to me we’re starting to have a convergence of different studies all pointing to one thing: the ever-present “now” isn’t static, it’s fluid, and we’re experiencing this now.
    IMO 9/11 was a temporal flux, just the right “Pearl Harbor” they needed.

  4. Since time is essentially a concept of memory, time entanglement makes sense. And curiously, there could be personalities now that are playing out or re-living (even synching) with certain events in history . Time and memory.

  5. When i was coming up as a [human] kid we called it time-space or space-time…so this, time or space, boundary didn’t exist…nor does it in this [ancient] One…

    the key is internalizing polar-voidness…

  6. Great news, so it isn’t me going mad with a 4k television making me think words that then come on the screen (or audio).. it’s them going mad with my cohesive influences.
    Next up… 6 million ‘Hebrews’ really did die from fumicides and cremation but the signs somehow got mixed up and now don’t add up. Scientists postulate that in some alternative universe, actually ours since 1977 4m – ~1.5m = 4m still.
    Everything is now relative, except for the eternal boot in our faces.
    There is a god and he plays light sabers with the universe.

  7. I am reminded of the old Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure movie, where the scene involves time-entanglement. They need some keys, but don’t have them. So, one says that – after the end of their adventure – they need to remember to time-travel back and deposit the needed keys behind that bush (pointing at it). Then, he walks over to that bush, rummages around, and picks-up the needed keys. (When I first saw that scene, I literally said Woah! Brilliant theoreticians wrote that flick…)

    Keeping Bill and Ted in mind, the other bake-the-noodle observation involves time-entanglement and the Almighty. When was the last time everything was time-entangled? Why, the Big Bang, of course (or slightly before). So, every time (grin) you contemplate “all-God”, you are reaching-back to the Big Bang. If you are contemplating all-God with an ‘objective’ in mind (praying for some result), you are reaching-back to the Big Bang (or slightly before), having a time-entangled ‘discussion’ there, and then having the results of that discussion ‘project’ back-out into the manifest Present. Poof, a ‘miracle’…

  8. Robert Barricklow

    Reminds me of what Yul Brynner said in
    the Biblical movie The Ten Commandments.
    The Pharaoh Ramses clashes with Moses and says/
    So let it be written. So let it be done.

    Is this some kind of extremely sophisticated “written” universe/hologram/singularity; where past/present/future/[s] and location[s] are all done/written.

    “Ay, there’s the rub”

    says Hamlet, when thinking of ending it all,
    in his famous “To be or not to be” soliloquy::
    To die – to sleep. To sleep – perchance to dream:

    Ay, there’s the rub!

    1. Robert Barricklow

      Whatever reality mazes “we” may be caught in; PKD has the right take: the true base reality is not absolute or perceptual, but moral and empathetic.

  9. In the Seth material, the present moment is described as the primary node in all this – the past and future both extend out from the present. In a more 3 dimensional analogy, you can think of your consciousness in the present moment as a point, with an infinite number of lines (representing probable time lines) passing through it. The present moment is the nexus which connects all past and future time lines passing through it.
    One could begin to think in terms of spheres expanding from the “now” out in all directions, with layers connecting through each time line, making time signatures a sort of spherical surface wave.
    Many spiritual practices discuss the necessity of concentrating on the “now” or present moment as being the thing which is most necessary to attain enlightenment. They could be simply discussing physics. The present moment is that thing which synchronizes consciousness as it impinges on the multiverse. The energy of consciousness enters this reality in the present moment, and its wavefront expands out from there. Perhaps the “big bang” is simply a misunderstanding of what happens whenever any consciousness impinges upon any specific region of reality.

    Just a thought.

    1. Jon, that’s right where I went and you explained it so well, the present moment is “timeless” when you’re there.
      I also think of deja vu as being some sort of time phenomenon. It’s a an odd feeling that you’ve done it before or know some place you have never seen before.

  10. Well, you know that, per quantum theory, it is inevitable that at one given moment the entire universe will be in phase and simply wink out of existence? So time entanglement is frankly no biggie.
    In fact, I think they call it “intuition,” or “sixth sense,” or reincarnation, or channeling, or remote viewing, or any of a vast array of “paranormal” (read “normal”) experiences that show that consciousness drives and shapes our physical “reality.”

    When the footnoted, peer-reviewed paper-writers get there, wake me up and we can talk; until then well, think good thoughts, because well those thoughts are going to make the tomorrow you’ll be experiencing tomorrow.

  11. Dr. F: May I request a follow-on post, SVP? The paranormal dimension to this begs attention. Aren’t there quantum or non-local theories of consciousness? And haven’t you, in the past, posted a link to a TED talk regarding the imaging of the rotation of nucleus in human cells, thus implying the potential for human torsion cohesion to the aether / zeropoint field / subspace / universe / whatever?

    Also, if present thought, etc. is potentially temporally entangled with future thought, perception, memory, or resultant actions, could some major events of our times (e.g., 9/11) have been, in part, a deliberate attempt to influence the future via mass temporal entanglement of thought and emotion?

  12. ANGRY PHOTON

    This singularity
    refuses to entangle
    because liberty
    is to be single.

    Universe
    leave me be
    without remorse
    for you and me.

    Can the Pyramid create entanglement with the planetary core? Yes, that is the whole point. Spinning axis & gravity center is Euclidean geometry. Thought & intent.

  13. Most of this is over my head, so I will leave it read several more times and “mull” on it a bit. But as someone who has had too many significant “precognitive dreams” over the years to count (6-months prior to both fall of Berlin and pancaking collapse of freeway structure in Oakland during the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake being the most memorable; also, significant details in a couple of dreams about a childhood friend dying in what then became the largest airplane disaster in history to date (PSA crash over San Diego, 1979)), I have long known that time is not linear in the way that we think it is.

    It makes me think of everything as “NO ACCIDENTS” and “EVERYTHING IS SYNCHRONOUS!” If I could know, two weeks in advance, that my former friend would be a plane that crashed, and also in the early morning of that same crash before anyone had arrived at the airport, then she had probable realities in which she was NOT on that plane. The dreams were explicitly clear why she CHOSE to go out at that time and in that way and what she hoped it would accomplish. NO ACCIDENTS!

    Also, I think of the many times I have met someone and had that spooky recognition and flash of “knowing them across time,” complete with imagery of who we were in that other time/space, to discount entanglement across time. Especially where the heart (or hate!) is concerned. Emotions entangle, do they not?

  14. I dont think time exists, its measurement is based on distance travelled, we’re just measuring distance. we couldnt travel the seas properly until we had accurate time, just coming down to distance = speed x time spent at that speed. If we stop light do we stop time? I think so. Isnt all energy supposed to travel on the same EM wave? at different lengths of it.. but normally it’s all on there..
    I dont believe we can travel back through time, but I’m sure some serious research is being put into how to stop it.. or really slow it down…
    That would get us through the intergalactic voids.. if we could freeze the biological decay of our bodies by freezing them in time..

  15. After reading works of i.e. Dean Radin I would suggest the following to start with.
    There is no space and there is no time. There’s only mind(s) that construct a reality to make reality comprehensible. When you then consider that all minds are connected (the God is one and all paradigm), the construct should look the same to every mind in the ‘hive’.

    I consider the entaglement experiments as looking at the same ‘reality’ from different angles. So actually, you’re looking at 1, when you look at 4.

    Please throw in some extra dimensions on what plane all this is occuring, i.e. our mind is manifesting in higher that 3D. Although unproven, it provides a framework to understanding a lot of paradoxes.

      1. Hmmm, I have read into this 11 dimensions brain story and they are not really talking about real world dimensions, but about the mathematical theorethical version.
        Nevertheless, following Konstantin Meyls research into scalar waves, him stating that the brain/nervous system communicates with scalar waves, and assuming that thereby he means +3D, I would not be surprised that our mind is not made by the nervous cells but that these are the interface between say the higher and the lower world, to keep the mythical lingo up. So we are ‘mind’ projecting our body in a common projection of an ordered version of (chaos) reality. Just browsing some ideas now.

  16. Well the trick here is to imagine (if you will) a universe which is, or cluster of universes past and future which are, composed of only one single particle. The particle moves so fast that it locates itself anywhere and anywhen zillions and zillions times in any yocktosecond (one septillionth of a second)…..

  17. What are the effects of conscious perception of light? Considering that in our world sight is considered to be the most important sense organ. As Caesar said, “Veni, vidi, vici”.

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