Well, it's official: a Putin-Trump summit meeting is in the works. The real question is, what are they going to talk about? So many people sent me this article I have to comment about it, but again, what are they going to talk about? Some things are, of course, obvious:

1) Sanctions

2) The Ukraine (and with it, possibly, the Crimea)

3) Space militarization and commercialization.

With respect to the latter point, Russia has recently issued yet another caution about the militarization of space. This is predictable, since Russia has nowhere near the West's private space corporations. In fact, to my knowledge, it has none at all, and as we have noted elsewhere on this site, Mr. Putin recently curtailed Russian defense spending to focus on building up Russia's domestic infrastructure, particularly in Siberia. Such a step is necessary with the dramatic expansion of Russian agriculture, which demands a dramatic expansion of Russia's rail and road transportation infrastructure.

So what's the story? This article, as noted, was shared by many people:

Britain in panic as Trump-Putin summit looms

From one point of view, Britain's alarm over the approaching summit is perfectly understandable, for it has long been a goal of British geopolitics to contain Russia, and to prevent "the two unthinkable nightmares", i.e., (1) a Russo-German understanding or alliance, and (2) a Russo-American understanding or alliance. The latter possibility was starkly dramatized during the American War Between the States, when France and Britain were both considering an intervention on the side of the Confederacy. British officers, for example, were present with General Robert E. Lee's Army of Northern Virginia at the Battle of Gettysburg as observers. The failure of that campaign, plus the Russian Tsar Alexander II, who sent his fleet to Union ports, made the message clear; France and Britian backed off, and the American Civil War remained an American affair.

The article makes it clear that the summit could upend NATO plans to "deter Russian aggression":

Mr Trump called for Russia to be readmitted to the G8 this month, wrecking Mrs May’s efforts to further isolate Mr Putin after the Salisbury poisonings. Mr Trump then linked US funding of Nato to the trade dispute with the EU, singling out Germany for special criticism.

The prospect of a meeting between Mr Trump and Mr Putin appals British officials. “It’s unclear if this meeting is after or before Nato and the UK visit,” a Whitehall official said. “Obviously after would be better for us. It adds another dynamic to an already colourful week.”….

A senior western diplomatic source said that a Trump-Putin meeting before the Nato summit would cause “dismay and alarm”, adding: “It would be a highly negative thing to do.”

Nato is due to discuss an escalation of measures to deter Russian aggression. “Everyone is perturbed by what is going on and is fearing for the future of the alliance,” a Whitehall source said.

From the Trump Administration's perspective, however, little is to be gained by listening to the weak and indecisive May Government. And on the continent of Europe, Mad Madam Merkel's government is in an even more precarious state.

But I suspect there is one more item on the Putin-Trump summit agenda, and it has nothing to do with NATO, Europe, or the two Mad Madams of Europe, Merkel and May. In last Thursday's News and Views from the Nefarium, I advanced two hypotheses about the recent Kim-Trump summit, namely, that the memorandum of understanding that was signed was really either the product of a three power pressure working behind the scenes, coming from Russia, the USA, and Japan, or it was the result of four power pressure, with China being added to the list. Mr. Xi is in a weaker position than most may think, for China does not want a trade war at this time with the USA. I advanced the idea in that News and Views, and also at greater length in the forthcoming Solari quarterly wrap-up with Catherine Fitts, that what we may be seeing are the first steps in the creation of a Korean "neutral zone", with all for powers creating an economic trade zone where their interests are spelled out and protected. Behind this there lurks the recent North Korean discovery of a bonanza of Rare Earth Elements that, with Russian, American, Japanese (and possibly Chinese) money, could develop the country. If such a neutral trade zone is in the works, then none of the four powers will want the destabilizing presence of nuclear weapons in the hands of the North Koreans.

So I strongly suspect as my high octane speculation of the day that the most important item on the Trump-Putin summit agenda will be some frank and perhaps prolonged discussions of the Korean situation, and the ironing out of the details of such a venture. Let me be clear: the USA probably cannot completely lock Russian or Chinese influence out of North Korea. That influence is there now. What needs to be gained is a foothold of American influence in Pyongyang. Time, of course, will tell if either of my two hypotheses have any merit at all. If they do, then there will be the usual two steps forward one step back dance along the way; the pattern, if any, confirming either of those two hypotheses will only emerge over the next few years.

But... if we hear that Mr. Putin and Mr. Trump did discuss Korea, then that's an indicator that the cat, while not wholly out of the bag, may at least be partially so.

See you on the flip side...

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. Levi G on July 2, 2018 at 8:53 pm

    Well this was way off

  2. XAydMary on June 29, 2018 at 11:01 am

    You can find real history in the strangest places. utube video of ‘If Walls Could Talk’ episode. A couple discovers evidence of British Collusion in the American Civil War in the attic of an old house built by an Officer in the Conferderate Army. I believe the couple donated the documents to a local museum. Hopefully the Smithsonian folks didn’t get their grubbies on it:


  3. anakephalaiosis on June 25, 2018 at 9:41 pm

    Every man has to get away from female swamp. Hole in ground goes nowhere. Gambling saloon is male territory. Smoking cigar and drinking whiskey is freedom. Rare metal Korea Klondike is good excuse, to get away from matriarch meltdown in communist EU. British elite fears supreme patriarchy. That is garlic to vampire.

  4. marcos toledo on June 25, 2018 at 8:39 pm

    The top of my list for a Putin Trump summit would be to bury the sooner the better NATO. That milestone around the USA neck has been a drain on its resources and should have died with the Warsaw Pack demise. It would the first step in the USA declaring its true independence in over a century.

  5. goshawks on June 25, 2018 at 6:42 pm

    Trump (b.1946) and Putin (b.1952) are both ‘youngsters’. Neither were directly involved in WWII, Korea, or even in the early Cold War tensions. (If I might be so bold, they are even of the Flower Power generation. *grin*) As such, the raw confrontiveness may not be there…

    So much depends on whether they are their own men, or just puppets. (If Jared Kushner is in the room, well, that question is answered.) Both men are smart enough to know the game is rigged, and probably even who the ‘riggers’ are. The big question is whether they are playing a ‘deep game’ for Humanity, or are aligned (willingly or not) with the 0.001%ers…

  6. DanaThomas on June 25, 2018 at 3:07 pm

    Obviously there is little the UK and not even Germany can do (even in some overt or covert alliance) if Russia, China, Japan and the US decide to move together in a situation like Korea that closely concerns the first 3 countries. Obviously this does not mean the “end of history”. The US is strong in space but weak in infrastructures and possibly food supply if we consider GMOs to be a long-term liability. Russia is strong in space and Japan probably has more than they are talking about. China and Russia need to flesh out their infrastructures, recalling that the mere fact of building expensive high speed trains etc. is only one aspect.
    Now the Russian-bashing school of the British oligarchy will have to do some real juggling acts to try to prevent both a US-Russia and a Germany-Russia entente, much less the “quadruple entente” we are probably seeing in Korea. But unlike many of the US and European oligarchs, they will have a Plan B, C, D etc. just in case….

    • Robert Barricklow on June 25, 2018 at 5:45 pm

      Yes, I think Trump wants to deal w/Russia;
      and conversely, Russia w/the U.S.
      The other Deep State faction doesn’t want either to happen.
      They don’t want nation states period.

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  11. Robert Barricklow on June 25, 2018 at 11:43 am

    What economic model they’ll be using?
    The neoliberal Orwellian one of Tyranny?
    Or, a public one like China -the same as the Early American Colonies model [the primary reason of the Revolutionary War & the subsequent War of 1812 – to get out from under the thumb of the international banking cartel of the times].?



    scroll down to: Chinas Export Compet ti tiveness

    • Robert Barricklow on June 25, 2018 at 11:44 am

      That economic zone
      has at least two models
      @ crosswords.

    • Robert Barricklow on June 25, 2018 at 6:09 pm

      Perhaps they’ll even discuss those new “made in space” labels?

      • Robert Barricklow on June 25, 2018 at 6:11 pm

        Maybe the last place to manufacture or sell guns?

    • Robert Barricklow on June 25, 2018 at 6:14 pm

      Putting some new nails into a coffin for the WTO would be nice?

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