JAPAN’S HAYABUSA 2 TAKES PICTURE OF ANOTHER STRANGE ASTEROID
About a week and a half ago, Mr. Richard Hoagland contacted me to come on his program to talk about that strange comet/asteroid Oumuamua, the cigar-shaped object that entered the solar system and whose behavior is just, well, bizarre, so bizarre that scientists don't really know how to explain it. It was a last-minute thing, as one of Mr. Hoagland's scheduled guests was apparently unable to make a scheduled appearance. Not having anything on the plate, I agreed, only we discovered that there were so many audio problems that night that Mr. Hoagland had to cancel the show. But one of the topics he also wanted to discuss was Japan's Hayabusa-2 asteroid space probe mission, and the very strange photograph it took of a little asteroid the Japanese Space Agency, JAXA, named Ryugu.
I hadn't seen what Mr. Hoagland was referring to, when in my inbox appeared this article from Mr. P.J., and Ms. K.M. sent along a picture of the strange object, and after reading it and seeing the picture of Ryugu, I am entertaining lots of high octane speculations. But we'll get back to those. Here's the article Mr. P.J. sent:
Dragon Dice: JAXA Captures Photographs of a “Die-Shaped” Asteroid in Space
That simply couldn't be, I thought to myself, so I went sniffing and searching, and found this bit of corroboration:
A Japanese Probe Is Closing in on an Asteroid 180 Million Miles from Earth
Japan's Hayabusa2 Asteroid Probe Snaps Best Pics Yet of Its Target Ryugu
And if one looks at this this, not only does it look like a kind of die from a dice set, or diamond composed of two pyramids stacked one over the other, there's all sorts of strange "stuff" on the surface.
I don't know about you, but I'll go ahead and say it: this looks to me like an artificial object of some sort, battered over it's long sojourn in space, but nevertheless, artificial. Not only it the object itself rectilinear, but there are some very clear rectilinear features on its surface that are in and of themselves very odd.
But that's not my problem here. My problem is the Japanese Space Agency itself, for as the articles make clear, the agency plans to land its Hayabusa-2 probe on the surface of this asteroid (which, incidentally, is spinning), but to take sample, and then return them to Earth. As you might have guessed, this is the occasion for my daily jump to the end of the twig of our trademark High Octane SpeculationTM. First, there's the name of the asteroid itself. Citing the first article shared by Mr. P.J.:
Ryugu’s shape isn’t the only association it has with myth and lore surrounding dragons; according to Spaceflight Now, its name is also evocative of these mythical creatures, borrowed from “an undersea dragon’s palace visited by Urashima Taro, a fisherman in a Japanese folk story who brings back a mysterious treasure box from the underwater castle.”
Hayabusa2 was launched in 2014, and in the days since photographs were obtained of Ryugu’s unusual shape, the spacecraft has closed its distance to approximately 20 km, with the objective of landing and extracting material for analysis, which it will retrieve and bring to Earth by the end of 2020.
So the asteroid is named for a piece of Japanese folklore about a fisherman bringing back a treasure box from a dragon's underwater castle. Now, I've written in some of my books, most notably The Cosmic War: Interplanetary Warfare, Modern Physics, and Ancient Texts, that the idea of the ocean or abyss was often used as a metaphor for space itself; thus, a "castle under water" could be taken to mean a "castle under the abyss", i.e., in space. But whatever my speculations, the Japanese Space Agency clearly had both the folklore, and the castle, clearly in mind when it named this object, which, for its apparently artificial "look", could be taken to be an artificial object like a castle, with the "treasure box" being whatever the probe might manage to scoop up and return to Earth. The asteroid itself is a little less than a mile across, being almost a kilometer in width.
But I have to wonder, what are the odds that JAXA just happened to pick this asteroid to land on, named it after a bit of Japanese dragon folk lore, take samples from it, and return them to Earth, and that the asteroid should turn out to have such a bizarre and suggestive shape? Why this asteroid? It may be purely coincidental, of course. But there's been a pattern of space probes to asteroids in recent years that has been - if you've been following them - downright bizarre. NASA's probe to the asteroid Bennu produced a similarly shaped asteroid, and then of course, there was the European Space Agency's mission to asteroid Steins, which turned out to look like this:
Rosetta Flies By "Something" Very Strange
I don't know about you, but while one might be a coincidence and two a synchronicity, it seems to me that three comes close to the beginnings of a pattern, and that pattern strongly suggests that NASA, JAXA, and and the ESA knew something about these celestial bodies prior to launching their probes to them, and that they were deliberately selected prior to launch. Their unusual shape, particularly in the case of Ryugu and Steins, also suggests that they are looking for "something." Indeed, the Hayabusa-2 mission not only wants to look, but to bring some of it back. So why all the fuss and bother to bring something back from that asteroid? I suspect that if the Japanese suspected that this object might be artificial - and indeed, the language of the Japanese scientists involved with the project speaks of "structure" and its thus highly suggestive that that is indeed what they think it is - the proof of the pudding, so to speak, would be in the analysis of whatever sample they bring back, for those samples might indicate chemical composition typical of alloys and other machined objects.
Time, of course, will tell, but only if the Japanese choose to tell...
See you on the flip side...
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so maybe now Einstein would believe that God does indeed play dice with the universe. The question is, where is the other die? and is the game rigged?
would this square peg fit into a mini black hole?
Iapetus is the ultimate on so many levels.
Check this discovery i made at the Iapetus transition zone between light and dark. Looks k at it for five minutes and tell me what you see! Photo is a much smaller piece of a super hi res panorama from Cassini.
Anthropomorphic bias is a stickler to deal with……. especially if plasma discharge is implicatiive in surrounding area. I see what you see. Some times we see figures in clouds and patterns are recognized.
Question fundamentally remains etiology of formation.
The photo of the object that Japan is interested in sparks a memory…….
Looks like something DeBeers deals with…….. why would they spend so much to look at an asteroid? Could it perhaps be a humdinger of a carbon tidbit?
16 psyche….another strange asteroid…that this article even mentions the possibility of it being the Death Star ??http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4128582/Nasa-plans-explore-expensive-asteroid.html
Yes, a damaged Borg cube ship come to mind could many of the so-called asteroids and comets be space derelicts. Remains of defunct spacecraft or sleeper probes left in orbit to listen in and keep an eye on us here on Earth. A spacecraft coated in rock cement would be more robust and last longer and pass for debris and go unnoticed more easily to those, not in the know.
Yes, it does remind me of a damaged Borg Cubeship and rock covered spaceship would be more robust and shield it crew and instruments on long missions. Then these objects could be derrick spacecraft or probes left over from an ancient space war. Or sleeper probes keeping an eye on us disguised as space junk.
This is nothing compared to the moon of Saturn called Iapetus. You want strange, then why is nobody talking about it. Joseph talked about Iapetus in The Cosmic War and put a photo of it next to the Death Star in the Star Wars movie. So this latest el strango piece of rock is really taking a back seat to Iapetus.
(10:08) die shaped they say? https://youtu.be/ajRVhR2drVE
As if the answer is astrological in a set time period.
That an ancient astrology chart is surprising accurate.
So much so, that those “in-the-know” regard the sacred “chart” as gospel?
Just got off the bus. I sat next to a man in his late sixties who said that he saw a meteor explode recently just outside McCarren Airport. He said there was absolutely nothing in the news. Complete blank. As if it didn’t happen.
A while back, JPF blogged here:
https://gizadeathstar dot com/2018/03/secret-payload-tesla-roadster/
In it, he discussed the “secret payload” known as the, Arch. Could these select rocks that we continue to show interest in, harbor similar “archives?” Are we passing messages? Has some advanced civilization left us blueprints, which could be why we never saw a need to officially go back to the moon? Perhaps we are on a treasure hunt. Perhaps, my imagination is simply running away on me.
The other elephant in the room is why are these agencies releasing these photos for public consumption in the first place? It’s not like there aren’t other asteroids whose images they could publish that aren’t so suggestive–unless they are now seriously in need of “public support” for these agencies activities from the public treasury. Are we seeing the Ringling Brothers of NASA now?
Love your analogy.
The universe is a rather large space, I would imagine there are objects of almost infinite shape and size within it. Why chase after objects so far away when there is an object orbiting this planet which would seem to be of greater interest and which exhibits some rather odd behavior, the Black Knight. It is readily accessible and would provide immediate results; or, have they visited this object, gotten their results, and that has sent them looking for other such bodies in space which exhibit similar anomalies.
Why do we seem to be avoiding/ignoring this object, or Cydonia, or any number of other areas of obvious interest?
Hayabusa-2 obviously flew past a damaged, inert Borg Cube covered by eons of space dust…
Semi-seriously, what would a space-based shipyard or factory look like after being on the edge of the Tiamat explosion? Besides being flung into a far-different orbit, I could imagine it being battered and covered with dust/debris…
How to make spaceships during the stone age.. use stone 🙂 Didnt think of it being parts of Tiamat.. I was thinking more along the terms of resculpting in situ. Space Mining asteroids is a simple enough cover to justify creating a space force… and using them to sculpt intersteller travel units.. seriously..it’ll have to be done.
Interstellar flight will require the use of asteroids to house the spacecraft and engines needed, and protect the soft meat inside against space radiation (rock works fine thank you very much) We’ve known this since Space Warden and some have known it since Ringmakers of Saturn.
Just check the globes siphonning plasma off the sun.
Large Cylinders (more than 1 km) launching from Mars and ramming Phobos II.
H G Wells talking about long cylinders coming from Mars (its a fiction I know..)
I agree with using existing rocks as ships/stations. I would imagine it to be exponentially cheaper to find a rock, mine it for resources to construct necessary structures/components, and attach engines of some sort. Very similar to The Expanse book series.
I’m a bit new in my “alternative space research,” I would be interested to learn more of the Ringmakers, Cylinders and globes you speak of. Could you point me in the right direction?
Hello Ronin – why… of course I can…. 🙂 I cant list the links here (for they are legion) Check your personnal messages.. and happy reading/hunting
Most appreciated, Kahlypso.