Mr. G.K. found this article, and given today's "space emphasis", I wanted to elaborate on my high octane speculations about this one:

Growing US unease with China's new deep space facility in Argentina

There's a key to what China is up to in this article:

China's space base in Argentina's Patagonia is making Washington feel unease amid Beijing's consistent expansion in Latin America, once considered the US' backyard.

"The isolated base is one of the most striking symbols of Beijing's long push to transform Latin America and shape its future for generations to come - often in ways that directly undermine the United States' political, economic and strategic power in the region," remarked Ernesto Londono, an editorial writer for The New York Times.

However, according to Gustavo Cardozo, an analyst at the Argentine Center for International Studies (CAEI), the Chinese endeavor is pursuing far more ambitious goal: Beijing is seeking to become a major space power.

"China has a very serious intention to go into space and compete strategically with the United States," Cardozo told Sputnik Mundo. "This military base allows not only to control outer space, because the Argentine Patagonia and southern Chile are very good regions in terms of visualizing the cosmos."

The construction of the Chinese base for deep space research in Argentina was negotiated between the government of the country's former President Christina Fernandez de Kirchner (2007-2015) and the administration of Chinese President Xi Jinping. The 50-year contract was officially signed in April 2014 and was approved by the Argentinian parliament in February 2015.

The installation started operating in March 2018. According to The New York Times, the station plays a pivotal role in Beijing's bold endeavor to kick off "an expedition to the far side of the moon." (Emphasis added)

This is entirely correct, and adds some "spice" to what is transpiring vis-a-vis the Moon. China, as the italicized portion of the quotation notes, is planning a mission to land a probe on the far side of the Moon. There are any number of anomalous features on the side of the Moon and one primary candidate for such a mission might be Tsiolkovsky Crater, which demonstrates some highly anomalous features, even suggestive of structure and artificiality.  But whatever China's motivations, the landing of a probe on the far side of the Moon will require an elaborate communications relay system, including communications satellites in orbit around the Moon to be able to maintain communications with any such probes. This comes in the same time frame that German companies have announced plans to build out a 4G network on the Moon.

Needless to say, the conjunction of these two things have my mind entertaining all sorts of high octane speculation, namely that these two things - the Chinese base in Patagonia, and the German 4G lunar plan - might be connected in some fashion as yet to be revealed. Those who have read my books, particularly The Nazi International, will recall that I have argued that Patagonia is a region fairly well infested with post-war Nazis and research projects of a bizarre and exotic nature.  Additionally, the Estancia, a large post-war region virtually a "Nazi state within a state" existed in that area for some time, and according to some, still exists. The presence of the Chinese base in this region suggests to my mind that it would not have been allowed without "permission," and that this permission may have come with some covert strings attached.

There's another factor at work in my high octane speculation here as well. In various books, beginning with The SS Brotherhood of the Bell, I've been arguing that the Apollo lunar missions may not have occurred without a covert deal between those "Patagonian veterans" and their fellow countrymen in NASA. Specifically, I've speculated that the "deal" which was worked out may have been the exchange of access to some sort of exotic Nazi technology - a development of the Bell perhaps - to allow us to get to and from the Moon, in return to access to data of whatever we found there. In that respect, I've concentrated upon the presence of Kurt Debus as senior flight director of Project Apollo at Cape Canaveral, and that Debus, far from being a rocket scientist was a plasma physicist, and one moreover with clear connections to the Bell project. And over the years, there certainly has been some suggestive data, implying that "something" anomalous was known about the Moon prior to those missions, and that anomalies may have been documented by Project Apollo. The problem for the "Patagonian veterans" - if my "secret deal" scenario is correct - is that the USA, after Apollo 17, did not go back, and has not been back for decades. If one is wanting access to "anomalous data" this is tantamount to letting a contract lapse, or go into default. Hence, one will look for a new "partner" that intends to go to the Moon, and cut a deal.

China, for example.

Ok... it's wild and woolly speculation to be sure, and with only two dots to connect here, I'm fully confident that I've stepped off the end of the twig. But here as always, time will tell, and perhaps add more confirming information, or information contraindicating my speculation.

See you on the flip side...


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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. Ronin on August 3, 2018 at 9:59 am

    Perhaps China has something the Patagonian’s need?

    Many think that MH370 was “disappeared” over some super chips. That same crowd believes a Bauer (aka: Rotten Child) then coincidentally gained control over this tech company after the airline went missing. If you’ll recall there were also 2 massive explosions in China around the same time frame. If you dig a little on these explosions, you’ll find that they both destroyed and/or disrupted the two most powerful super computers on earth. Lots of coincidences surrounding exotic tech.

    My point is, perhaps China was brought to the table because they clearly display a talent for developing advanced computing technology, or an all together different talent and/or possession.

    • Ronin on August 3, 2018 at 11:43 am

      After thinking about what they may possess that would peak the interest of our Patagonian Overloads, I’m leaning towards a trade. The overlords let them into the limited hangout that is SPACE, and in return the Chinese provide their knack for all things super computing AND, access to the ancient tomb of Qin Shi Huang. Ancient runes have always peaked Nazi-Internationals curiosity, I should imagine that a massive sealed Pyramid with moats of mercury would be an excellent bargaining chip.

  2. paraschtick on August 2, 2018 at 7:25 pm

    Hilarious how these things seemed to have links. Argentina/Patagonia and China. Brilliant. Wonder if the Welsh will be involved too. Patagonia is full of Welsh people … well it was at one time, anyway.

    Anyhooo … most of the stuff we have seen out of the Chinese space program has been hoaxed. Or, some of the footage we have seen from the Chinese space program is hoaxed footage. There are a number of videos on youtube that show bubbles flying up past the camera as the footage was taken in a water filled tank. And it is so obviously fraudulent, it makes one giggle like a ninety foot giraffe … whatever that means.

    But … China, Argentina, and exotic physics. That’s a lot to deal with. I believe the Argentinians are still working on plasma stuff so … the future may be interesting (?).

  3. marcos toledo on August 2, 2018 at 6:54 pm

    Well, why is the USA complaining for nearly half a century they have turned NASA into a pathic dog and pony show. All the USA seems interested in is spreading death and destruction around the World. So whoever is running things in Patagonia is sick and tired with these delays and wants to explore space. So when China came along they jumped at its offer a got on board the lunar express who should blame them.

  4. enki-nike on August 2, 2018 at 3:28 pm

    The Chinese are not pioneers. If they are going to the moon then it’s because somebody else is already there and they want to trade with them.

  5. Robert Barricklow on August 2, 2018 at 11:05 am

    Perhaps a more suitable partnership has been under development that splits the potential power structure in the future of space. That is where true power lies hidden and with potential violence; w/in the structure of the ‘system’.

    • Robert Barricklow on August 2, 2018 at 12:38 pm

      An example of structural violence in Argentina.
      [Patagonia, Chile & Argentina have in common]
      The next financial crisis…

      What structure will be the future in space?
      Class warfare to infinity & beyond?

    • Robert Barricklow on August 2, 2018 at 12:41 pm

      [Structural violence within the commercialized internet?]

      • goshawks on August 2, 2018 at 11:01 pm

        RB, I think that what got you modded was greater than two ‘live’ URLs. I have watched other posters with more than two ‘live’ URLs (when the post showed up) having complained of modding. So, I now don’t put more than two ‘live’ URLs in one post. (If I need to use a third or fourth URL, I make them ‘inactive’ through the whatever dot com substitution.)

        • goshawks on August 2, 2018 at 11:03 pm

          Hah, “subs-tit-ution” goes through now. Maybe Joseph got tired of useless modding…

    • Robert Barricklow on August 2, 2018 at 12:54 pm

      I suspect that China is holding it’s cultural history cards close it its vest; that it is counter to the closed systems’ approach…

  6. WalkingDead on August 2, 2018 at 10:30 am

    If they want in on the action, China needs to go where the action most likely is.

    Manning termed the Bormann Organization, the “world’s most important accumulation of money power under one control in history”.

    Controlling Germany’s major corporations, the Federal Republic itself and much of Latin America, the Bormann Organization also maintained a formidable circle of influence in the United States.

    • DanaThomas on August 2, 2018 at 11:32 am

      A. Dulles to Manning: “You are on the right track”. And if Dulles didn’t know, who did?

  7. Miguel Oniga on August 2, 2018 at 7:03 am

    I mean, ‘Neil’.

  8. Miguel Oniga on August 2, 2018 at 7:01 am

    There is some interesting ‘footage’ of ‘Buzz’ and ‘Niel’ finding an entire city.

  9. DanaThomas on August 2, 2018 at 6:01 am

    Cutting deals is the name of the game. On the surface, the Monroe Doctrine seems to have lapsed… but has it? The US oligarchs have blasted Argentina time and again for alleged misdemeanours using bankster techniques, but this time “someone” in the labyrinth of space programme protagonists has given the ok to China.

  10. goshawks on August 2, 2018 at 5:56 am

    The ‘base’ itself is pretty pedestrian. From the cited article:
    “In fact, this base is part of a long-distance space network created to support Chinese operations in outer space… As The Diplomat noted in 2016, while covering the Sino-Argentinian project, Beijing maintains other ground stations ‘to support its manned space program’ – in Namibia, Pakistan and Kenya.”
    In addition:
    “A space tracking, telemetry and command facility operated by a unit of China’s People’s Liberation Army is nearing completion at a site in Patagonia, Argentina. The new base, the first of its kind outside of China, includes steerable parabolic antennas 13.5 and 35 meters in diameter, computer & engineering facilities, lodgings for technical staff, and a $10 million electric power plant.”

    However, the interesting aspect is the far side of the Moon. This landing-area requires setting-up a whole new communications-relay apparatus, and so is not cost-trivial. So, why bother? My thought is that the Chinese may have gotten ahold of ‘forbidden’ info on what’s really up there, a decade or two back, and have gotten impatient with US decades-out trips to the Moon. (Especially, if offered only ‘junior partner’ status.) Freezing-out the Chinese from sharing a space program with NASA could be seen in a whole different light from this angle.

    In fact, the whole Chinese rocket program may have been initiated because of that ‘forbidden knowledge’…

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