BILLIONS MISSING FROM RUSSIAN SPACE AGENCY
There's an old adage: once is unusual, twice is a coincidence (or perhaps, a "synchronicity") but three or more is a pattern. Well, this story was shared by Catherine Austin Fitts, and Mr. T.M., and as one might imagine, it has my high octane speculation motor running in overdrive. Why? Well, there has been (finally) an acknowledgement in the lamestream media that there is a lot of missing money in the US Federal budget, trillions of dollars' worth of missing money. Now, this is not news for those who've been following Ms. Fitts' regular blogs, interviews and articles over the years. Recently Dr. Mark Scidmore also has chimed in. And of course, let's not forget former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, who revealed that about two trillion dollars could not be accounted for, on September 10th, 2001. Of course, that story was quickly forgotten in the aftermath of 9/11. Nor is it news for those who've been following my speculations about hidden systems of finance, obfuscated amounts of gold and so on, over the years in connection to the bearer bonds scandals.
What is different about this story is that this missing money is not dollars, but rubles - 785.5 billion of them - missing from the Russian space agency, Roscosmos:
Russia space agency targeted over "stolen" billions
Now, as the article notes, 785.5 billion rubles is a "mere" 11.9 billion dollars, a veritable drop in the bucket compared to the trillions mentioned by Mr. Rumsfeld, or tracked by Ms. Fitts or Dr. Scidmore. Nonetheless, the article contains some intriguing statements, and more interestingly, does not contain other statements:
The Russian space agency Roscosmos, whose reputation has already been hit by the failure of a Soyuz rocket last month, was on Sunday targeted by the country's audit court over financial irregularities including "stolen" billions.
"We have serious problems with Roscosmos," the Accounts Chamber chairman Alexe� Kudrin said in televised comments.
"Procurement procedures are bad, prices are too high, many projects are unfinished or halted, and funds stand unused for months, and several billion have been lost - stolen - and investigations are ongoing, " the former finance minister added.
A 2017 report by the court signalled(sic) a total of 151 irregularities within the space agency accounts, totalling(sic) 785.5 billion rubles ($11.9 billion), Russian news agency reported.
What's interesting in what it does say is that the explanations given for the lost money have been placed on the usual culprits in the former Communist nation: bad procurement procedures, inflated prices, unused funds, and just plain good old fashioned theft. Well, if "bad procurement procedures" are to blame, then Russia is a bastion of fiscal responsibility and efficiency, compared to Rumsfeld's Pentagon or the federal budgetary "process" in America.
But I find much more interesting the things that are not being said. The impression given in the article is that this loss was just for 2017, yet that is not explicit. We're left with a mere impression. We don't really know how many years the investigation covered, nor are we given any indication of who supposedly stole some of the money, and what percentage of this 785.5 billion rubles was thought to be stolen, not simply missing or gobbled up in "bad procurement procedures".
It's the absence of explanation of that stolen money that intrigues me, and as one might guess, has my high octane speculation running in overdrive. A mere 785.5 billion rubles, or a mere 11.9 billion dollars in missing and/or stolen money might not seem like much in the context of American missing money stories, but as I've pointed out in other contexts, while Russia spends far less than the USA on military and space matters, it gets more bang for the ruble, for one of the consequences of a hidden system of finance, lots of missing money, and reserve currency status, is that prices inflate, corruption dominates the system, and comparative technologies becomes higher priced in the one context that might cost a fraction of that in the other.
So with that somewhat simplistic idea in mind, I turn to my high octane speculation of the day:
Recently in one of this website's members' vidchats, the question was asked if I thought there was a similar hidden financial system, and "breakaway civilization" or "secret space program" in other countries, particularly Russia. My answer was yes, and then the observation was made that one never hears about massive amounts of missing money from Russia, which is why I find this story so interesting. Recently I observed that the amounts of missing money in the US federal budget were now so astronomically huge, that the old explanation of $20,000 toilet seats and $10,000 wrenches and coffee makers were no longer an adequate cover for inflating ledger prices of supplies to cover the diversion of money into classified and deep projects. Thus the possibility emerges that Russia - with its smaller economy - might still be in the era of cooking the books to divert funds into deeper classified projects. And the fact that this is occurring within Roscosmos is suggestive enough that one possibility for that diversion of funds is into classified secret space projects.
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Thanks for the idiotic comment about putt-putt Origens Child. The reason why I hate making comments on this site. You must be one an Americian to make such an immature comment and inept analogy comparing chess culture to leaders playing golf. Oy Vey! Americian culture on display at its finest !
your moniker should be ‘GoyimsChild’ instead of OrigensChild.
I’ll will give you credit though for being honest about your level of maturity by calling and exclaiming to the world that you are a Child. But even without that declaration it is obvious to all that you are incapable of having an adult discussion, from both an emotional standpoint and an intellectual one. Your lack of social skills as well ….
Hey OrigensChild … GoyimsChild, I never hear any submissions from you on the vidchats?! You just one of those intellectual phonies making snarky empty superficial incoherent and inept Goyim comments after the fact but are utterly incapable of actually contributing anything of substance to the Community of Ideas that we try to create and sustain here.
Intellectual coward
wow. helden. chill. please?
i’m thinking you mistook origiens for me and mistook my intent for anything other than a harvey penick frame of mind.
In line with Why all the money went:
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/thumbnails/image/arrival-bennu-full-rotation.jpg?itok=1tQDlv7o
A great, close-up photo of the “diamond-shaped” near-Earth asteroid Bennu. To me, this seems like what a carved ‘cube’ would look like, if hammered by eons of space debris. The corners would be softly rounded, while the faces would still stay semi-flat. Oh, and look at ‘something’ at the SW edge of the asteroid…
hey look. it’s got an M on the roof. it’s not a mcdonalds is it?
I saw a funny thing last week. I am not informed about the finances of France but as I was watching the protest by the gillets jaunes, someone is Paris was screaming: “Where did it go? Where did all of this money go?”
It’s not just in the US, is it?
785.5 billion rubles is a lot of money if the workers are being paid with that currency. Which they must be. Also if you couple in the manufacturing of materials in Russia for their secret work that would explain that large amount as well.
I think the fact the USD conversion was even mentioned was to give the impression that it wasn’t a lot of money in global economic terms but it’s a ton of money if everything is being kept in country and made from the ground up using their own people and resources and importing nothing.
why are we plebes hearing about the corruption at all in these organizations? why are they letting us talk about it and folk like caf keep us as well informed as we are?
RB Quote: Is there another possibility; where there is a common platform, both are sharing at an extremely deep level?
Oh yes, Robert. The answer is listed in Dunn & Bradstreet and all the Private Corporations have the same owners. Of course they conveniently omitted the “Inc.” from the end of their names so as to bamboozle the great unwashed.
It was published in the book and Copyrighted 2014:
“You know something is WRONG when….”An American Affidavit of Probable Cause”
Click on the picture of the book on Amazon and read what you can ~ Appendix- B. The Russian Federation is listed on Dunn & Bradstreet’s publication in England to conceal it from their people.
You recognize how sneaky criminals have be to continue their fraud more than 150 years.
thank you waterbug. adding that to the list.
I hit the report by mistake ,sorry!!!! What’s the name of the book ?
. . . Missing money, missing money, and more missing money, and then there are instances where punctuation marks designating place holders for numbers, such as comma’s and periods, have been misplaced, swapped, or simply misread (possibly on purpose) that throw numerical totals and rounding figures off of expected calculations. . . One question might be, “Who’s doing the punctuation designations on the numbers?” another, “If machine computations, have they had correct entries in the proper places and are the processing units functioning properly or melting-down and their failures not yet discovered?”. . These potential circumstances also beg the question of whether there are those who know how to and when to game those misrepresented calculations of wrongly punctuated number figures. . .
. . . Then again, given how easily money is generated by the banks, repulsively simple no less, it’s not too surprising that that money generated easily evaporates when the money handlers blink. . .
. . . One use to formulate fiscal budgets, by hand, as computers were catching up and being made available to the immediate budgeter. . . For instance, those $20,000 – $10,000 items mentioned are blatantly outrageous for the items they’re said to be for, but adjust for misplaced decimal points and / or comma’s and one can see that those cost amounts could easily result from punctuation misplacement and / or misidentification. . . One once had an individual item priced at $5.40 in 1990 dollars, a known dollar amount, but was misidentified as $54,000.00 per unit. . . In that instance one could see that properly adjusting for the punctuations (comma and period) of that unit price the outcome meant an overall adjustment of thousands of dollars on the end budget total which later followed. . . One should point out that deliberate doctoring of other budgeting expenses where travel, lodging, and other closely related items on an expense account was also discovered and subsequent prosecutions successfully implemented because of provable intent and associated self-serving motivations. . .
. . . In some ways, it comes down to whether or not there is criminal intent and associated motivations, typographical errors by programmers, or machine failures though they’re not the only things that can happen. . . These mentioned may not be the only causality of very large numerical errors, but how and who is doing the oversight and math checking, if any, might need to be re-evaluated. . .
. . . Various payment clearing schemes seem easy sources of misidentification as well as a skilled thief’s best friend for money laundering. . . Details, details, what about those details, eh. . . Far too many presumptions for subsequent assumptions despite past criminal prosecutions. . . And then there is the matter of unaccounted for middle steps in the supply chain. . . Those might need to be simplified for clarity for just shipping and handling of materials and funds. . .
richard, are you saying “to err is human. to really screw up you need a computer.”?
. . . Heh, one knows quite a bit about Being human and erroring without intent, malice, or motivation, in fact quite the opposite, but still on record of a botched-job with consequences. . . It’s the masterfully crafted plausible denial that’s not always immediately apparent, but can be lethal – The stuff of mysteries, Sources and Methods, are still verboten zu sprechen. . . Computer hardware like computer processors (CPU’s), memory chips, and hard disc drives (HDD’s), with built in designs to fail at the Nano-scale level, also, are not always apparent. . . Manufacturing checks during fabrication might need another look, if not already taken up. . . Although, computers do seem to make screw-ups more efficient at today’s gigahertz speeds. . .
That was the last vid chat where the question arose if Russia had a hidden space program w/its subsequent hidden system of finance. You gave the short answer yes, w/some reasoning behind it[as I recall].
Loved the question, as it appeared obvious that Russia was using its share of Nazi scientist to catch up on its military/space programs, and had to know the U.S. was doing it in spades. Yet, I failed to follow up w/the obvious question of expense. It takes an extraordinary amount of money & security.
Each side must know something of the other. That the Zionists, er., the globalists are trying to expose the tip of the iceberg in Russia is interesting. Because Russians can hit that bird back into the U.S. court & watch the Zionist media spin on that puppy. A Lou Dobbs Keith Olbermann debate where real news starts coming out in their heated debates, and the owners had to shut them down because they were becoming real journalists.
Is there another possibility; where there is a common platform, both are sharing at an extremely deep level?
Interesting times.
Speaking of China[Napoleon, “Beware the Dragon when she awakens”]?
How much does China know of these systems & the hidden sciences they have discovered? No doubt, they have done some Venetian double book entries themselves & then some.
The Russian space agency missing money maybe just normal corruption. The USA military missing money on the other hand looks more like protection payments to a powerful crime boss. The question is who is the recipient of these payments.
Well.. I remember news about one or two years ago, when the admiral of the Baltic Fleet was arrested in St. Petersburg, Russia. They found 115 million $ cash from his home. Putin is doing great anti-corruption work, it’s dangerous and difficult for him. I think western folks don’t quite understand it, but it is what it is.
The head of Roscosmos is Rogozin, one of Putin’s right hand men. Lavrov (Russian Foreign Minister), Shiogu (Russian Defense Minister) and Rogozin (Head of Roscosmos) are the 3 top people behind Putin. Rogozin was a very public figure until just the last few years, where he suddenly disappeared from the public view and was ‘demoted’ to become the head of the entire Russian Space industry, both the Agency and all the tech companies making the high technology for Space. So the demotion was not a demotion at all but rather putting Rogozin in charge of the entire space program.
Kudrin is a shill for the Globalist and one of the power players in the anti-Putin faction within Russia. Putin had to get Kudrin kicked out of the Russian government through an internal struggle within the Kremlin o er the last decade.
So the fact that Kudrin is the one bringing this up means it is another avenue of attack on Putin by the NeoCon Globalist. This is an attempt by the Globalist to try and figure out what all the secret technology Roscosmos has created and also an attack to discredit Putin’s reputation, slander him as being corrupt when the missing $12 billion probably went to Avatar robot technology defending the Motherland!
I agree with you about Kudrin. But the danger here is by going after Putin they may shoot themselves (Kudrin’s puppeteers) in the foot. If this is pushed too far and too hard, CAF’s hypothesis may get a much larger audience here. All it would take is a few well placed words from the right spokesperson offering a few details using CAF’s hypothesis to bolster her research results. I suspect they have a few details worth “trading”. Kudrin’s puppeteers stateside have not thought this through very far and have allowed their curiosity to get the better part of their judgment. When Russia does “account” for the discrepancy I bet there may be a subtle clue for others to review our own internal “affairs”. It would not surprise me if they tell us where to look. Russia doesn’t play chess for nothing. Here the national pastime among our elites is golf. Go figure…
I would agree with what you say except for the golf comment. Golf is great sport and game, invoking both atheltic skill and strategy. And you get outside and walk around a scenic environment at the same time.
I agree with your comment regarding golf as a game of strategy, but usually the strategy is deployed against the course and not necessarily a human opponent. Sure, tournaments require players where they keep scores, compare and the winner is the one completing the course with the best score. There is always some strategy there too, but the primary objective is to obtain the best score possible against the terrain. In chess the opponent is more directly the person–and more directly the psychology that drives their play. In the game of spy craft and geopolitics the advantage is usually in favor of chess players–not golfers. I could be wrong. Convince me if you can.
Great point. I concede. I just feel golf gets trashed for being superficial and not a sport yet that element of strategy, even if just against the course, is still there, plus the athletic and communing with nature aspects. I have always found it interesting how many retired professionals athletes from all sports become such golf enthusiasts. Michael Jorden being a good example.
Another aspect is that while walking in Nature, I have my best thoughts and best conversations with people. So I think one reason the USA politicians golf so much is that it allows them to communicate on a level they cannot when sitting across a table.
I do not think that the Russian leadership sits down and plays chess together. (But that is not your point!) But yes, the Russian have a chess mind from having a chess culture, and are strategic thinkers because of it.
… so perhaps the chess vs golf analogy is not an apt one ?! (I am now using this opportunity as a student of Dr. Farrell to apply his insights on apt analogies from the last vid chat!)
without dancing around the masonic origins, why would anyone want a good walk spoiled.
besides, that’s not nature anymore than chemtrailed skies are nature. startpage a search of cancer golf course superintendents.
to be sure there’s a dog staring at a frisbee somewhere right now. please consider your responsibilities to this planet (and the dog). thank you.
so what you’re both saying here is that rogozin is about to do a purge? albeit not the kind of purge rumsfeld threatened on 9/10/2001 the day before he executed the accountants he gathered in that room in the pentagon on the opposite side of the building as his office?
I would never trash golf–or those who play the sport. It’s the type of strategic thinking I was pondering. (Then, of course, you also have those who use golf as an informal meeting place for cutting deals that cut others throats–but that is an aside.) I have friends who are avid golfers. I never took a shine to the sport. I would occasionally play a game of putt-putt with my kids when they were young, but I never took to it myself. I understand the skill levels required, and the strategy of course. In putt-putt the strategy is much more pronounced since you’re dealing with a much sharper set of obstacles over a smaller amount of space, whereas a normal course is mostly subtle variations in the terrain. Of the two, putt-putt gets the greatest bum rap.
We have yet to hear from China in regards to missing monies in the midst of their spending spree world wide. This may be common among all space faring nations where world wide cooperation still seems to be somewhat normalized.
A CHRISTMAS CAROL 2
When Ebenezer Scrooge in spell cast
kindled future, present and past,
he found entanglement
in grave lament,
and pleaded guilty at last.