...of the Moon, that is.

That's right. That mission of China to land a probe on the far side of the Moon that I have blogged about before, is finally under way according to these stories shared by Mr. E.J. and Mr. H.B.:

Meet you on the dark side of the moon: China launches historic lunar exploration mission

China launches rover for first far side of the moon landing

As one might imagine, this has the high octane speculation part of my mind pondering all sorts of weird "coincidences," but before we get to that, there are a few details from both stories to note. First, there's this from the RT article:

Friday’s successful launch sent China’s Chang'e-4 into orbit, scheduled to make an unprecedented touch down on the dark side of the moon in January of next year, Chinese state media reports. The rover will land in the 3.9 billion year old “Von Kármán” crater, where it will take measurements and conduct experiments with the potential to uncover new information about the moon's formation and history.

The Von Karman crater is in the southern hemisphere on the Moon's far side, close to the southern pole of the Moon, which may or may not be significant, but we'll get back to that:

The Moon's Farside Von Kármán Crater

As the version of the story notes, should China's Chang-e 4 lander succeed, it will be the first time anyone has landed a probe on the far side of the Moon. The problem is of course that the lander will need to communicate with Earth, and the only way to do this is to place a relay satellite in orbit around the Moon, and this China has already done:

A major challenge for such a mission is communicating with the robotic lander: as the far side of the moon always points away from earth, there is no direct "line of sight" for signals.

As a solution, China in May blasted the Queqiao ("Magpie Bridge") satellite into the moon's orbit, positioning it so that it can relay data and commands between the lander and earth.

Adding to the difficulties, Chang'e-4 is being sent to the Aitken Basin in the lunar south pole region—known for its craggy and complex terrain—state media has said.

Again, it is to be noted that the lander will land toward the southern polar region, and as this article also notes the Chang-e 4 will be followed up by another lander which will collect samples and return them to the Earth.

It's this fascination with the south polar region of the Moon that has me intrigued. Already it is thought that the southern polar region is a good bet for the presence of water in the form of ice, deep in craters or perhaps even subsurface, and China has already expressed an interest in the region for a potential base.
But there's some things that intrigue about this story, not the least of which is the relay satellite China has placed in orbit around the Moon. Little is stated in either article about the expected "shelf life" of this satellite, but I rather suspect, given China's space ambitions and the expense and delicacy of placing a satellite in orbit, that it's meant to be a long-term "investment."
It's the south polar region itself, however, that really intrigues me. A few years ago NASA made a big hullaballoo about its L-CROSS satellite mission to crash a probe into the lunar surface and observe the ejecta. The story was it was looking for evidence of water which it would be able to detect by spectography of the ejecta. The run up to the mission was that everyone would be able to see the crash and explosion from Earth, so more than a few eyes were turned skyward for "the big event," which, when it happened, appeared to be a big nothing burger. But the nothing burger may have been an even bigger event than the originally hyped explosion, for Mr. Richard Hoagland made a strong argument that the reason there was no gigantic explosion was that the L-CROSS crash landing might have penetrated a hollow area (See NASA's Smoking Gun: Part II LCROSS' (and LRO's) Secret NASA Mission to the Moon ....) . One of the more interesting features Mr. Hoagland stressed in his analysis of the L-CROSS "nothing burger" was the presence of numerous rectilinear features near the impact zone which suggested artificiality and structure. In more "out there" analyses, speculation ramped-up, too, over the name "L-CROSS" itself, for it was argued that four "L's" in the shape of a "cross" makes (here it comes) a swastika.
In other words, something caught NASA's eye in the southern polar regions of Luna, and whatever it was, it may have had to be "taken out." Speculation? To be sure, but then came the news that India wanted to take a look "down there" as well, with it's Chandrayaan 2 lander, remember? (See INDIA’S CHANDRAYAAN 2 TO LAND AT LUNAR SOUTH POLE). And what a flood of information has been coming out of that lander, right?
So now China wants to land on the far side of the Moon, in the southern polar region.
So - bottom line - what do I make of all of this? Well, public stories notwithstanding, the presence of the L-CROSS mission in the context of this interest in the lunar southern polar region implies to me at least that they're (1) aware of something and they're not telling, and (2) they're looking for something. And isn't it very interesting that China wants to do it by looking on the far side, and as it controls the relay satellite for the probe-to-Earth communications link, that's a mighty convenient thing to have in case you find something, and don't want to tell...
See you on the flip side...
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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. Michael on December 13, 2018 at 3:11 am

  2. augenguy on December 11, 2018 at 11:03 pm

    What makes this mission all the more intriguing is that the far side of the Moon has a thicker crust and more chaotic terrain, much like Mars’ southern hemisphere. If Hoagland and the Exploded Planet Hypothesis (EPH) are correct, the back side of the Moon is actually covered with the “splatter” of an ancient, now lost, planetary explosion.

    Even more interesting, the Aitken Basin, which contains the Von Karman crater target, is known to have a higher concentration of radioactive elements than any other location on the Moon. Aitken Basin also has a high concentration of carbon in its southern half. Aitken also has a terraced rim indicative of electro-magnet discharge, not impact (see Thunderbolts Project).

    Furthermore, Von Karman is a crater within a crater, with yet another crater overlapping its northern half. That would make it fairly deep (over 8 miles according to NASA). If, as some propose, the Moon is hollow and surrounded by a titanium shell (see extensive discussion of this elsewhere), the the logical place to look for the exposed shell would be someplace like Von Karman.

    Indeed, Von Karman has anomalous levels of iron, titanium and thorium, compared to the Moon’s average composition.

    Finally, if as legend and myth say, there was a time before the Moon, then the Moon was steered into its present position. The most likely place to set up thrust and guidance apparati would be the spin axis, i.e. poles.

    If I were conspiracy minded, my high octane speculation would run to ancient technology, destroyed planets and a nice deep place to look for the proposed titanium shell that surrounds the Moon’s hollow interior.

    • goshawks on December 12, 2018 at 2:37 am

      augenguy: “Aitken Basin, which contains the Von Karman crater target, is known to have a higher concentration of radioactive elements than any other location on the Moon. … Furthermore, Von Karman is a crater within a crater, with yet another crater overlapping its northern half. That would make it fairly deep…”)

      In Fred Saberhagen’s “Berserker” series of SF novels, one way an ancient race devised to kill a Berserker* was with a series of ever-more-deeply penetrating explosions, attempting to get to the controlling mechanism. Aitken Basin could have been the ‘primary charge’, with Von Kármán Crater burrowing further inwards. It sounds like the third charge was blown off-course and did not center on Von Kármán Crater. Did they destroy the AI or just incapacitate the ‘ship’? (In this speculation, lunar Mares would not be just magma lakes, but evidence of ferocious battles.)

      * AI-guided doomsday weapons up to asteroid/moon size left-over from a long-ago interstellar war, and subsequently seeking-out and destroying all life on ‘innocent’ planets.

  3. zendogbreath on December 11, 2018 at 1:37 am

    amazed at how friendly and helpful my friends at youtube are to consistently send me such recommendations:
    The Past Is Hidden To Keep You Ignorant |The Old World Order & Tartaria Empire

    i have read a little about old cultures and how they’re kept hidden by current dominant culture (giants, burial and other mounds, sites from older cultures in places that reformation writers tell us can not be, and on) .

    then i’m watching this and between architectural skill levels and continuities throughout all continents, comes up the crossed L symbol.

    anyone here got any familiarity with this yt channel or or any such? how good a source for atlantean knowledge might they be?

  4. NYMZA Flugzeug on December 10, 2018 at 11:40 pm

    I wonder if they want to reestablish “communication between Heaven and Earth” as it it was in the old days…

  5. SoCal G on December 10, 2018 at 8:36 pm

    At the time of the LCROSS event I had pointed out that Jeremy L. Cross was a renowned Masonic author and lecturer:

    No man, since the death of Thos. Smith Webb, has exercised so wide-spread an influence upon the practical workings of Masonry in this country as he whose name stands at the head of this article. Our profoundest writers on Masonic history and Masonic jurisprudence will die and be forgotten, and their works will be forgotten, before the labors of this plain New Hampshire Lecturer will be wiped from the Masonic trestle-board of the Nineteenth Century. The oldest and soundest ritualists of the past generation . . . proudly trace their knowledge of the “Work” to Jeremy L. Cross, as irrefragable evidence of its correctness.

    Knowing NASA’s penchant for naming missions and such with a secret slant towards Masonry, it seemed to “fit” that mission.

    But Mr. Hoagland also pointed out the NASA statement that the LCROSS mission found “about the same abundance of Mercury as they did water”. Continuing Mr. Hoagland also pointed out that Mercury is one of rarest substances in the universe.

    Some one at NASA must have noticed the gaff as I cant recall them continuing to make that statement.

    Just as the poles have nearby crater floors with permanently shaded regions because of the moon’s orientation to the sun, they also have nearby mountains and crater rims that are in nearly perpetual sunlight. In theory, they would be perfect locations for solar-powered systems and equipment. But the LCROSS mission also found a substantial presence of mercury in the soil.

    “The detection of mercury in the soil was the biggest surprise, especially that it’s in about the same abundance as the water detected by LCROSS,” said Kurt Retherford, who worked on one of the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter instruments. “Its toxicity could present a challenge for human exploration.”

    So if you need Mercury to, say, use some type of substance in propulsion technologies I am sure you would want to mine that.

  6. marcos toledo on December 10, 2018 at 6:12 pm

    What the betting pool that the Chang’e 4 gets the Phobos-Gunt treatment. But then the Chinese have probably sat down with the Russians and are forearmed against sabotage.

  7. goshawks on December 10, 2018 at 1:51 pm

    On the conventional side, China landing a rover to the far side South may constitute a legal ‘planting the flag’ maneuver in case of future treaty-wrangling.

    Also semi-conventional, from Wikipedia (or could be the cover-story):
    “The Chinese spacecraft Chang’e 4 is expected to land in Von Kármán Crater in January 2019. The site has symbolic as well as scientific value. Theodore von Kármán was the PhD advisor of Qian Xuesen, the founder of the Chinese space program.”

    Note that the Chinese relay satellite in the Earth-Moon L2 halo orbit can be easily eavesdropped. Just place a second relay satellite a little beyond it in a similar halo orbit. When the rover beams-up the reports, the second sat will automatically (and covertly) sweep-up a copy. Gains all the benefits with none of the work…

    (Note that the RT quote on the “dark side of the moon” betrays scientific illiteracy on the author’s part. The dark side of the moon does not exist, except in passing. In this context, it is the “far side of the Moon.”)

    • OrigensChild on December 11, 2018 at 9:02 am

      Perhaps you’re right in a purely scientific sense. While the moon is in transit in its orbit around the earth the far side and near side are all relative. The “dark” side becomes the near side and the “light” side becomes the far side. Technically, there would never be a dark side. I get that, too. As a literary device, though, to describe the side that moon that is never lit from the earth’s perspective as it rotates during transit, it would be truly dark. From earth, we would not see its “face” without the assistance of technology–and that is potentially the real point to the reference. It would be the perfect staging area for covert military activity and otherwise. You have a built in cycle for transit using the “dark” side as cover from the sun as the base-side faces the earth in shadow. If there is someone there I am willing to bet the Chinese will keep just as quiet as everyone else. Oh my, the layers to “dark” just get more and more dense…

    • OrigensChild on December 11, 2018 at 9:09 am

      Speaking of artistic license, I still listen to Pink Floyd’s album whose title contains the reference with deep affection. I know many of these lyrics were written during the 70’s at a time when so much was happening politically and socially to give them immediate concern. Over time, as we add the research of CAF to the mix, the songs now appear to be more relevant than ever. I also like the “Division Bell” as well for a whole different set of reasons, yet it is traveling on the same arc as the former. It’s interesting how this happens.

  8. DanaThomas on December 10, 2018 at 12:50 pm

    A story to be followed. An announcement that communications with this lander have suddenly been “lost” would not be surprising.

    • Robert Barricklow on December 10, 2018 at 12:58 pm

      The Vegas line would, no doubt, heavily favor the “lost” bet Dana.

  9. Robert Barricklow on December 10, 2018 at 12:10 pm

    Many tell tale signs point decidedly towards a hollow moon…
    Has a secret space program already been there and rung that bell?

    No doubt sabotage is in the winds that are blowing all around
    this China land probe mission on the moon’s far side.

    • Robert Barricklow on December 10, 2018 at 12:14 pm

      [By the way, Michael Hudson’s new book is now priced over $100.00.?]
      Is that free market capitalism at its finest?

      • Robert Barricklow on December 10, 2018 at 12:48 pm

        The author needs more control of his or her works and a bigger slice of the pie[not the typical crumbs]. Forget about those mega bucks mainstream authors that support, w/in their story lines, myths like 9/11.
        Only decades later do they dare move the goal posts to the now accepted guidelines of the times.
        There needs to be a major paradigm shift towards self publishing.
        One that makes economic cents/sense.
        The last two books I bought/read were from self published authors:
        Joseph P Farrell & Stephen Rennberg[the mapped space universe series]

        • Robert Barricklow on December 10, 2018 at 12:53 pm

          The Antaran Codex, In Earth’s Service & The Riven Stars.

  10. Gabe on December 10, 2018 at 10:43 am

    So there’s an America and a Chinese guy in a bar. The American says, ‘How do you get to the sun’. The Chinese man says, ‘fly there at night’.

  11. WalkingDead on December 10, 2018 at 8:42 am

    Secret space programs with secret Moon bases and spy satellites in an alien sky, makes for a good movie plot. We’ve already had one Nazi’s on the Moon movie, maybe there will be a sequel.

    • Joseph P. Farrell on December 10, 2018 at 4:14 pm

      Ha! Iron Sky, the Sequel: Nazis vs. Chicoms on the Moon… I love it.

    • Laurent on December 10, 2018 at 9:51 pm

      Swastikas on the Moon!
      I busted out laughing. I saw that movie already.

  12. anakephalaiosis on December 10, 2018 at 6:54 am

    Apple curating Moon Man.
    Six million communist credit score.
    Snow White flying Nazi propeller.

    • Kari Nanstad on December 10, 2018 at 6:07 pm

      Interesting would be interesting to see what’s really on the dark side of the moon!

      • Kahlypso on December 11, 2018 at 4:30 am

        “Santa Claus” apparently…or Crystal spired cities if you give any credence to Apollo videos on Youtube.

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