CONCERNED ABOUT CERN? NOW THEY WANT A BIGGER ONE (CERN, THAT IS)
(Sung to the tune of Vic Mizzy's theme song for the old television sit com, Green Acres):
CERN'S vision is the place for me,
quark collisions is the life for me,
gluons spreading out so far and wide,
Keep Sandia I want the Swiss countryside...
So might the CERN theme song go, if they had a theme song, which they should, because they need one. At the minimum, they need a Mighty Wurlitzer theater organ to accompany the show. And they need one because, to this layman's eye, "big science" is approaching the comically surreal and is beginning to have that "Green Acres" quality, where the characters in the story are reading the opening credits, and wondering where the letters hanging in the air are coming from.
So why am I on another tear with my conCERNs about CERN? Well, my conCERNs started when I read a book by a scientist describing the machine in terms of religious ecstasy (see my book The Third Way). To read him, you'd almost think the collider was the cathedral at Chartres. It was like reading some scientific Savanarola, "when a coin into the collection plate doth ring, a stream from the synchrotron doth spring," or something like that. In short, my concern with CERN was, and is, that being a quasi-sovereign entity, it set itself up as some sort of "cosmology cartel," with the college of cardinals teams of scientists interpreting the latest results of their studies experiments for the rest of the world to be duly impressed by and to accede to. Therein lies my first conCERN, for having a monopoly on all copies of the bible and church fathers results of experiments, you and I can hardly run out into our garages, turn on our own hadron colliders, and check them. The fact that we're dealing with a "cosmology cartel" (as I put it in The Third Way) may in part account for why the Protestants China announced it wants to build its own, bigger version. (Cue music: Anything you can do, we can do better; anything you can build, we can build bigger).
Well, not to be outdone by those pesky Protestants Chinese, CERN, sensing its cosmology cartel might be in some danger of competition, has announced it intends to maintain its meson monopoly by building an even bigger version, according to this BBC story shared by Ms. S.H. and Mr. L.G.:
Cern plans even larger hadron collider for physics search
The graphic in the BBC article says it all, CERN wants a 100km collider, and I find it odd that the graphic depicts its location to run under several interesting terrain features. The cost, as noted in the article, is some twenty billion pounds, all for the following purpose:
The proposal involves digging a new tunnel under Cern and then installing a ring that would initially collide electrons with their positively charged counterparts, positrons.
Stage two would involve colliding protons with electrons.
In other words, they want a collider able to collide matter and anti-matter particles, and then electrons with protons. Think "total annihilation reactions." But wait, there's more:
But observations by astronomers indicated that there was more to the Universe than could be explained by the Standard Model. Galaxies were rotating faster than they should be and the expansion of the Universe is accelerating rather than slowing down. On top of that, the Standard Model cannot explain gravity.
So there must be a deeper process going on, involving yet to be discovered particles. Uncovering them would provide physicists with their much sought after theory of everything, one that would tie together all the forces of nature and unify the twin pillars on which modern physics rests: general relativity and quantum mechanics.
But there's a catch:
The difficulty with Cern's proposals for a larger Large Hadron Collider is that no one knows what energies will be needed to crash large hadrons together to discover the enigmatic, super particles that hold the keys to the new realm of particles.
Cern hopes that its step-by-step proposal, first using electron-positron and then electron-large hadron collisions will enable its physicists to look for the ripples created by the super particles and so enable them to determine the energies that will be needed to find the super particles. (Emphasis added)
Now, you know as well as I do that those unknown energies will be "a lot", and "a lot more" than the current energies of the Large Hadron Collider, and that will probably also mean that those immense magnetic fields in the current Large Hadron Collider will have to become even bigger. And as I've speculated already in conjunction with CERN's little project, it's those large magnetic fields, plus my other speculated possibility that there may be hidden algorithms in its computer selection filters pulling anomalous data and shuffling them to secretive committees for review, that give me pause. Those large magnetic fields, I've speculated, may create large scale resonance effects in the planet, and by implication, outside the planet, and possibly effect systems of planetary scale (like geophysical processes or the weather. In that regard, I've even suggested "hidden data correlation" experiments being conducted in conjunction with this, and speculated on torsion effects and "magnetic precessional wobbles" (to coin a term) in conjunction with it. In fact, I'd be greatly surprised if there were no such data correlation experiments correlating CERN's collider activity and other systems. And now they want to scale it up, and are now talking about looking "for the ripples created by the super particles"... Oh? Ripples in what? Maybe the fabric and lattice-work of space-time itself, maybe, kinda sorta? Well, that would stand to reason, given they've admitted they're also looking for evidence of higher dimensions.
But then there's a real stunner toward the end of the article, because at what point do colliders get so big that the return on investment begins to decline. Indeed, we seem to be in some sort of "collider race" to build the biggest best most smashing cathedral collider:
The UK's former Chief Scientific Advisor, Prof Sir David King, has advised the UK government and the European Commission on large funding requests.
He told BBC News that he believed that the escalating costs of conducting basic research in particle physics means that it is now time to carry out a cost-benefit analysis, especially when it was unclear whether the £20bn machine would discover any new particles.
"We have to draw a line somewhere otherwise we end up with a collider that is so large that it goes around the equator. And if it doesn't end there perhaps there will be a request for one that goes to the Moon and back." (Emphasis added)
In other words, the end process of this collider race is to make a collider of planetary size. No potential for planetary-sized resonance effects there folks. But when we're talking about such highly speculative possibilities as magnetic precessional wobbles and anomalouos torsion effects with the current collider, scale that up and you get "what could possibly go wrong?" Already the Earth's magnetic pole is moving so quickly that its affecting positioning systems, and this "purely natural" phenomenon has geophysicists baffled as to why (hint: you might want to consider that the effect is man-made by considering some of these speculative possibilities, and do so before you build an even bigger collider with even more colossal energies and gimongously huge magnetic fields. Don't believe me? Then see this version of the story shared by Mr. P.J.: Next-generation LHC: CERN lays out plans for €21-billion supercollider).
Now, since I've already crawled way off the end of the high octane speculation twig, I might as well state what's really weighing on my mind, because this collider race seems to confirm my suspicion - as is obliquely admitted in the article - that this is about more than just standard particle physics. It's about building systems able to manipulate physical systems of planetary (if not larger) scale.
Or to put it country simple: it's an arms race.
See you on the flip side...
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I find it interesting that this announcement about a bigger collider, occurred just after the announcement that the Large Hadron Collider will be shut down for two years.
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/cern-large-hadron-collider-shutting-down-2-years
I get the distinct impression that, whatever CERN is doing with the LHC, CERN is not getting the results it thinks it needs. This announcement almost seems to have a bit of “desperation” attached to it, not unlike the desperation so plainly evident in mainstream media.
Arguments for or against CERN all end up going around in circles with each side claiming to run rings around the other, most arguments being circular in nature… or outside it.
[ off topics… this one came up this week. eleborate fantasy or far out fact?
https://rense.com/general96/Rockwell-Integrated-Space-Plan-2-in-color-4-6.pdf
and this is old school, deterministic, and delightfully refreshing. julius sumner miller Australian ABC TV show 19
https://www.youtube.com/user/dramaticphysics/videos
mind you what would he have made of
https://archive.org/details/ChristopherJonBjerknesTheManufactureAndSaleOfSaintEinstein
and would he have confronted Einstein about it?
I enjoyed First Man movie (Armstrong) by suspending my disbelief, which is a kind of mental anti-gravity. ]
Some thoughts:
I remember reading in the Scientific American, years ago (about 30 years now) that the LHC was going to open up branches of new exotic physics; It was going to be the most exciting experiment that has ever been conceived; it was going to prove the Standard Model; it was going to prove that the Higgs Boson exists etc etc etc.
I was so excited to read about this (I was at the University of Edinburgh at the time studying Physics and Math(s) toward getting a degree in Astrophysics … didn’t quite turn out that way but that’s another story).
Anyhow … the LHC in my opinion has done nothing of the sort. It has brought out some new particles … but to me it speaks volumes about the current ideas for the Standard Model, and particle physics as a whole.
And now as they are supposedly going to build a new bigger particle accelerator aka the RRRRBAEHC the Really Really Really Really Big And Expensive Hadron Collider, it tells me that the Standard Model is broken … or … in more prosaic terms, these scientists haven’t got a freaking clue about what they’re talking about, and it may all be about more than just proving the Standard Model.
seriously? how exactly does one assess return on investment of such concerns.
quinn micheals has a few utubes connecting haldane, fermi and all with ai research/development. provided some appealing logic and much more appealing evidence that the primary purpose of rings is ai.
this link might feel more appropriate to the last blogpost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5c90vxFFD0&feature=em-uploademail
but i think it ties in directly in ways we’re not quite getting yet. feels like what we’re missing in how and what accelerator rings work and are has to do with what we were never allowed to learn about tesla that fermi and all almost certainly were allowed. somehow it feels better to get evidence of hidden tech from yt channels advocating flat earth.
especially at 27 seconds in.
ZDB
Thanks for the wicked link
first thoughts on reading this blog
https://www.amazon.com/Nobel-Dreams-Ultimate-Experiment-1987-01-12/dp/B01JQ8LUEG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1548193240&sr=8-1&keywords=gary+taubes+nobel
haven’t read it yet. taubes’ interview on rogan was good though.
My conCERN is what is the telluric currents map is looks like relative to the current CERN geographic location, and would love to compare it with the incoming new large CERN, and wonder if I could find anything interesting from there.
good point. before, after and during construction and run ups would be cool too.
Joseph, subtle line outs! What a hoot. Ah yes, high velocity particle collision energetic output that is carefully superimposed upon the geometry of a rotating magnetic field (JXB) huuuummm no worries there……… oh, can plasma couple? Nah, everything will be hunky Dory.
Won’t ever hear something like Hey wait a minute…..What was that Purple Flash? Tell me if I’m mistaken, we used to only have one star right? No your right, I must be mistaken, I must have been staring at the lightbulb again for too long……or perhaps have identified the new malady of spontaneous superluminescent diplopia syndrome.
Huuummm: new effort clarifying calculating Saturns day….
https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=7316
Wonder why all the fuss?
Relationship of inner workings and effects on rings……. nah never mind nothing to see here
now that cern is officially the biggest (for awhile) and texas is officially non-existent, does anyone know the swiss translation for “hey hold my beer and watch this.”?
I am very displeased about this & even more so if the Swiss Federation goes along with it. My speculation is that Switzerland was chosen due to the Alps. There are different types of granite around the world, it might be the granite of the Alps has a very conductive type of granite that Cern relies on. But where there’s granite, there is quartz …. milk quartz that holds information indefinitely & quartz crystals for energy… not including other variations quartz there might be. Then one has the ability with geological resources to produce piso electricity & other experiments that Tesla worked on. Anyway, thst’s my 2 cents….
I find it intruiging that America was taken out of the Collider Arms Race. After being started by Reagan, under a less-than-enthusiastic Clinton funding was withdrawn for the collider down in Waxahachie, Texas, after $2 billion of the money had already been spent and it would take another estimated billion to shut the project down. Congress canceled the project on October 21, 1993.
Interesting reading:
https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/how-texas-lost-the-worlds-largest-super-collider/
“We walked up to the peak of a grassy hill to find a large dip, fifteen feet in diameter, filled with brambles and dead vegetation. The scene looked like hair collected at the bottom of a shower drain. Three other areas like this one lay on the property. The hill was probably a capped shaft, sunk hundreds of feet into the main tunnel where the collider’s magnets would have steered the beams around the curve. Nobody knew for sure; the physicists had left with all SSC schema.
…
Ellis County happens to lie atop the Austin Chalk, a cretaceous geological formation that mirrors the curve of the Gulf, arching from Mississippi to Mexico. It is a tunneller’s dream; easy to bore and shape without compromising stability.”
We at Giza know that if the PTB had wanted the Texas collider to be completed, a few words in the right ears and funding would have been found. The opposite is also true; a few words in the right ears and the funding would be gone. The Texas collider was championed under the power-group handling Reagan/Bush Sr and cancelled under the power-group handling Clinton. What changed?
In that regard, I also find it interesting that CERN is a de facto ‘nation’, like the City of London, the Vatican, and the District of Columbia. That speaks volumes as to intent. Then, throw-in that CERN’s HQ is outside Geneva, Switzerland. Ah, Switzerland – home of BIS and old home of Templar remnants. Quite a brew…
quinn micheals gives a little evidence that texas might have been taken dark and completed in the dark. i think he’s crediting it with powering his friendly ai mentor named tyler. get it? tyler texas?
That theory does sound a bit akin to the huge NWO base ‘slipped-in’ under the Denver Airport replacement…
Or is this the last gasp of the Big Bang String Theory Physics and this charade will be the public bank accounts free lunch so to speak.
Maybe they need a bigger collider to discover the universe is not made out of particles.
Loved it!
Do you really believe what they tell you that they’re using these colliders for?
Not only are these colliders very bad for us and the planet, ultimately the cabal is stiffing us with the costs.
an arms race , on an “planetary” (if not larger) scale …against what or ….whom? Lmao good God, I hope they are not Predators mud mud Mud MUD !!! 😉
Being given to the High Moses’ of Sciences
are those contiguous technological sacred telos tablets;
via THE technological GOD – CERN.
CERN is turning everything it touches:
In His Own Image[technologies].
So CERN effects a number of mediums?
My main concern is:
Mind manipulation on the unwashed masses.
typo
conCERN.
spell check technology corrected my purpose error.
Technology knows what’s best for us; even when we humans are not complying w/the rules.
Technology has/is evolving from transforming
nature to suit its purposes;
towards technologies completely replacing nature.
Thus, the efforts to make humans function
in a nature that becomes more & more robotic.
Look around you; everything is being measured & quantified, in as many fields/realms of human endeavor as can be imagined – to be technicalized to the greatest degrees possible.
CERN can certainly crunch the numbers; and perhaps, come up with methods of madness, and actioned probability delivery systems – to test on the unwashed?
What a long & hellish road technology has paved.
From my perspective I see a technology that was once vanquished by its own dust[a highly evolved smart dust, if you will]. remnants of the vanquished used highly genetically advanced technologies on naked apes.
This vanquished, in human starved for unimagined exponential energies to become reborn.
So, imagine a beginning, where all that was available to this vanquished foe was the energy that came from sunlight captured by plants through photosynthesis and used directly as fuel, or indirectly as muscle power from both animal & human.
Fast forward to…
an energy bonanza extravaganza of a CERN arms race!
Bravo Sir David King the line MUST be drawn somewhere, and great intuition from Swimsinocean on intention in physics
SQUARE POINT THEATER 12
Ice cap migration.
Tilting earth capability.
Terraforming Year.
Do you ever get the feeling that the more particles they WANT to find, the more particles the WILL find? Intention?