TIDBIT: BERNARD GROVER’S LATEST TAKE ON “Q”

Friend and colleague Bernard Grover has just offered another analysis of the "Q" phenomenon, and for those who have been following his blogs about this subject, this one is a noodle-baker:

Who Is Q?

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

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  1. zendogbreath on February 28, 2019 at 12:10 am

    btw. why does jade helm and that biker/cop shootout (bathroom assassination) at the restaurant in waco come to mind here? wasn’t jade helm supposed to be the original official take over of autonomous command by ai? domestically?



  2. Loxie Lou Davie on February 27, 2019 at 8:16 am

    One has to go with “what IS” at this point in time. It is a phenomenon that has had the power to awaken many into ferreting out what is REALLY going on in this world of ours & who has been controlling it all.

    Expanding one’s knowledge base is a “good” thing, is it not? One is encouraged to think for one’s self. I’m sure there are those who “Believe in Q”…..just as there are many who “Believe in Jesus”!

    Each person is at a different stage of development & I do feel that “Q” has helped many to start questioning the How & Why things are done as they are. As one of the general public who was raised within the Controlled System, never realizing it WAS a Controlled System, I say Hurrah! for a psy-op that is causing some people to start questioning & digging for their own answers!

    For the “intellectuals” who have a need to be able to figure the origin of of said psy-op, I say Hurrah! as well. Each of us within our own bubble has mechanisms with which we contend with the wider world that surrounds us. Some feel the need to figure things out; some don’t. We have been operating in a “fog” over the last century, not understanding what was “really” going on…….now we’re Hanging on for The Ride, wondering how things will turn out!! 😉



    • augenguy on February 28, 2019 at 6:46 am

      When one think of how much good the Roman Catholic Church has done in the world, what’s a few choir boys in the closet? You have to crack a few eggs to make an omlette. Don’t worry, the Vatican will take care of all this internally. You just sit back and review Church history and Canon Law. How much of the Church’s vile crimes against Humanity and Human Dignity are forgiven by its missionary work, charity and patronage of the arts?

      The fact is that Q has everyone thinking that the solution to the vast evil committed by government is a handful of government agents who will set everything right. Just sit back and do your research and for God’s sake don’t touch anything. We’ll handle all this for you, because government is the solution to itself.

      And what happens when the next administration comes in? Suppose another Clinton administration gets ahold of the Q Toolbox. And is Trump really a “white hat,” or is he just a master manipulator?

      What about Q’s focus on Voter Fraud? It sounds as if the conversation is being steered towards a national ID system. And how about implanted chips to combat child sex trafficking? Q is hinting that these are viable solutions to the problems it has made folks aware of.

      And what about John McCain’s death? Q has strongly hinted that it knew the exact time and date of that event. This implies that Q was either privy to McCain’s suicide plans and did nothing to stop them, or was complicit in McCain’s murder. Which option do you find most palatable?

      I applaud the Great Awakening and encourage the “intellectuals” to push it further – to see that a disease cannot cure itself – and that a much stronger cure must be applied. We must remove the disease completely and set upon a healthier lifestyle.



  3. zendogbreath on February 27, 2019 at 2:21 am

    easily the most plausible model to describe this i’ve seen so far.

    brings to mind couple ideas.

    jason goodman has youtubed some interviews with quinn micheals. qm has gone on to solo some yt’s putting forward hack research presenting similar secret society / intel community ai systems doing just this.

    david hawkins still does interviews with goodman on reverse csi to indicate main players in most false flag attacks – serco comes to mind as a major player. probably involved somehow in doc’s latest notes on aussie relations with paladin.

    and charles ortel does great research on legal system currently covering up badly for clintons, epsteins et al.

    through all these ideas what comes to mind is that as our hearts and minds are worked for, some truths have to be given up to pique our jaded interests. after all we have had to wade through quite the swamp full of dreck to get to this point in the fake news stream. so to some degree, the fish exercise some influence over the fishermen, if for nothing else, for what bait will be used.

    to a degree, quinn micheals is arguing to influence ai systems to be better to us. through how we watch them. through how he and others hack them. through our focus. there’s gotta be something good come out of this for it to work at all.

    guess it’s along the lines of eastern military ideas where the optimal form of leadership is through love.



    • Bryce on February 27, 2019 at 11:33 am

      You’ll find 2 lawsuits w/gooman as defendant posted from pacer here.
      He’s an agent provocateur.
      https://trackingmeroz.wordpress.com/



      • zendogbreath on February 28, 2019 at 12:06 am

        michaels proved out fairly easily that all of the other 8 guys (titus frost et al) were provacateurs as well. i’m trusting goodman about as much as sweigart and robert david steele.

        here’s a possible larp that might not be – take a listen to tommy williams sometime on his (thi) truth honor integrity show. he sounds to represent a manna world holding trust that is taking control of the planet back from the rottenchildren and their alien masters. it’s ongoing interesting in what he gets right.

        the interest in quinn micheals is the same albeit he’s double binding himself when he’s not emotionally trying to do that to his audience.

        bottom line through all this is that to keep anyone’s interest for a nanosecond in this much more fluid media today, one has to drop at least one truthbomb occassionally – much more so than what we grew up on.



        • Robert Barricklow on February 28, 2019 at 12:25 pm

          ZDB,
          Love your trust& analogies.



        • Bryce on February 28, 2019 at 4:23 pm

          I’ve listened to TW. The problem I have w/most of these “alleged truthers” is there very rarely, if ever, is a source…only rhetoric.



  4. Gillian Grannum on February 26, 2019 at 11:29 pm

    So very glad to see this posted on Giza Death Star. It takes a broad, curious engaged mind to perceive an event one way initially then expand to include a contradictory view, one more closely aligned to “what is Q” than the other.

    The term “psychological operation” has negative connotations similar to “neurolinguistic programming.” Yet both modalities are no different than electricity – they consist of both negative and positive poles. It depends on the use to which they are put as to whether the outcome is positive or negative. Q runs a positive psychological program designed to correct for the very real problem of an asleep populace, one denied factual commentary via its media. An awake populace is what is most feared.

    Q is the single most brilliant deployment of military game theory and analysis ever played in real time using UNCOERCED willing participants globally.

    The battle for control of America and its survival is very real. The probability field is vast though this has been effectively narrowed through posing of specifically worded questions – questions that are increasingly more often statements than questions.

    Trump is a chosen late comer to The Game. He’s a huge plus in terms of having goals in alignment with Q in matters of justice, patriotism, human values, and borders. The brilliance of Group Mind unleashed through this Q-guided question set is shifting the global paradigm at lightning speed. #WWG1WGA

    A fantastic time to be alive.



    • augenguy on February 27, 2019 at 12:32 am

      You are arguing that the ends justify the means, which is immoral, just as I state that Q is immoral because it removes agency from the individual.

      Everything Q has posted is public information, with certain conclusions (such as elite child trafficking) something that many people have decried for decades. All Q has done is provide an appeal to authority, which is a formal fallacy (it’s true because Q says so). Few Q followers actually do any research. They simply “believe” because they “believe” in Q and Trump.

      I am highly sceptical, preferring the adage that if something is too good to be true, it often is. I have made the case elsewhere that there is essentially a mob turf war going on at the highest levels of the elites, and that Q is the secret weapon of just one faction. If all government is immoral, then there cannot be a good side and a bad side.

      I truly think the phenomenon needs to be watched, even followed, but with a healthy distance. Q is obviously not wanting anyone but itself to take action, so we are forced to watch, regardless; however, it behooves us to maintain emotional detachment, because at any moment “things could get nasty,” to paraphrase a character from Galaxy Quest.

      Or, to put it in Reagan’s words, Trust but verify.”



      • Kahlypso on February 27, 2019 at 4:07 am

        I wouldnt trust anything Reagan had to say, he was pure Mockingbird product that destroyed Hollywood from the inside. (Not that Hollywood was ever a ‘good place’) He was also a puppet put in place to install Star Wars. (The Presidential Peace Platform backfired today and scorched Brazil…and California.. and baked Venezuela’s agriculture to a crisp…) He schemed with Nixon at Bohemian Grove to plan WHEN he would put his presidential candidature in place as to not rock Nixon’s boat.
        Presidential prostitution rings with rentboys started up under his reign.. Iran Contra mean anything at all to you?? If there is an ‘enemy’ as most people think they understand what that means, it was running the government that set up the Contras..(read that again). Reagan also let slip the real lift capacity of the US Space program in his ‘impending alzheimers’ memoirs..probably what killed him. Oh yeh.. and he almost got Kennedy’d by his Vizier.. er Vice President. Who was already running the country with his pet pitbull called Dick.

        Everyone seems to think that they can say who Q is, but no one has adressed the success of Q. Why has Q become so successfull.. (which no one seems to realise is important..) The answer is.. Because everyone knows that something is wrong. Society is wrong. Laws protect the strong and crush the weak. Banks have immunity like Pharmaceutical companies, to steal and poison us. Its illegal to say that some people are doing bad things (even if they are). Governments enrich small amounts of people through eternal war (Eisenhower told you to be careful) International banks enable human trafficking, drug trafficking, organ trafficking, arm sales to dictators, churches of every creed.. YES EVERY CREED.. I’ve looked.. They’re all dirty. are full of pedophiles that prey on children instead of offering spiritual guidance. (some even actively participate in the sale of dry roasted Foetuses and it isnt even considered ‘bad’…that’s Buddism if anyone cares to follow up) Charities and NWO are more involved in child abuse and rape and setting up prostitution rings in refugee camps than they are in rebuilding disaster zones. Politicans join groups like PIE and NAMBLA and it’s considered ‘normal’ because of Kinney’s sexual revolution using nazi pedophiles to rape children and proof that they too (the children…) are sexual beings because they can have forced orgasms…. No one knew about it, because the Media is owned by 6 people. Government propaganda in the 40’s became social zeitgeist by the 60’s through mind control and Mockingbirds and controlling the narrative and people didnt even realise what had happened.. because they were too busy trying to emulate the movie stars..(who had by then, turned Hollywood into a modern day version of Sodom, scoured clean of communists and replaced by pedophiles..) It took the 8CHANs for this movement to start because everything in alt research from “Eat Vitamins” to “Channel your minds for Alien communication” (and blue space chickens) are ALL CONTROLLED BY THE ROCKEFELLERS.. (and saying that used to get you killed.) because every other social media network is compromised by internal trolls and shills to use the current label for those.. The illusion of free speech had to come from the Swamp of the internet to ensure it didnt reek of certain religious people controlling what you see/hear/think.. and even then it started with Maganon talking about Kim Dotcom and Seth Rich downloading the Democrat server onto Megaupload (see what happened to Kim shortly after) and 1 time, 1 high ranking guy in governement posted on the board and let out a bunch of intel that was way above anything ever written by any of the LARP’s and “Lookatme’s” had ever written before on 4 chan, then someone else, calling themself “Q Level Patriot” started writing some stuff and Maganon didnt think that they were the same person…. was the Q Level Patriot a product or a psy-op.. of course it is.. at the base, they’re all freemasons, cryptology and mystery is their bread and butter.. without it, they dont think that they are getting their money’s worth..some Q followers or whatever label you want to put on them are going through dissociation BECAUSE they had no idea all of this was going on. For them, politicans smile and kiss babies.. not smoke meth and kill babies. For them Priests bless and guide, not rape and lie..(lets not even talk about the Bank of Vatican..) Of course you can’t expect these people (at their level) to research all of it.. most of the subject matter is too harsh for most people to address correctly without going through a paradigm shift that most are unwilling and unable to make. For the better part of the last two years I have researched this intensely and it’s scarred me personally for life.

        But I dont expect Q to come along and wave a magic wand and make everything better. Child prostitution and pedophilia have existed as long as prostitution and sexuality have existed. People are just sick sometimes. They are the Trolls and Orges from fairytales, the demons and possessed from mythology They are a direct threat to my children and will not be considered as ‘confused’ or pedo-attracted… or non offending pedophile.. (very existence offends me) or part of the LGBT movement or misunderstood.. They are criminals, that prey on children to satisfy their own selfish sexual impulses.
        I wasnt waiting for a Q before.. but a lot of people were.



      • XAydMary on February 28, 2019 at 12:32 am

        Agreed. There is a difference between the Q and the Mockingbird Corporate Media psyop. The Q faction somewhat acknowledges the sophistication of most of it’s audience. It admits that is uses disinfo. It is a self ackowledged psyop. The viewers that feed at the corporate media slop trough of CNN would call such a concept a conspiracy theory … of course.



        • augenguy on February 28, 2019 at 7:02 am

          My favorite magicians are Penn & Teller. I love the way they poke fun at the whole magic industry and even show the audience how some of their tricks are done. They are completely irreverent and snarky.

          Yet, their signature illusions are mystifying and knowing that it’s an illusion, and even having them laugh their way through the presentation, does nothing to stop the illusion.

          Q is the Penn & Teller of psy-ops.



  5. Zeke on February 26, 2019 at 7:29 pm

    “The reasoning here is that the “UNITED STATES OF AMERICA” is a corporation, set up in the late 1800s as a sovereign entity residing on 100 square miles of swamp land in eastern Virginia. Through torturous legal windings, many researchers have shown that the US federal government can and does consider US citizens as foreign agents. A careful reading of the United States Code (USC) establishes this fact, thus making it “legal” to conduct psy-ops on US citizens. “Moral,” “Lawful” and “Constitutional” are separate and very tedious arguments.”

    Very alarming – if true, who’s not considered an enemy of the “corporation” (not a foreign agent?) “We the People, for the People, by the People..” aren’t the “People” the lawful citizens? But they legally twisted to mean the People are foreign agents in late 1800s?



    • augenguy on February 27, 2019 at 12:38 am

      There is literally centuries of research on this topic. I highly recommend Lysander Spooner, for one, and Larken Rose, for another. I am working on follow-up articles that zoom in on certain issues that deserve more explanation, such as this topic. The biggest roadblock to figuring this part out is learning how to read laws. They are a convoluted mess designed to hide things in a jumble of words. The don’t call it a “legal CODE” for nothing.



  6. augenguy on February 26, 2019 at 8:01 am

    Dr. Farrell, et al., thank you most kindly for the link. I receive a lot of readers from the GDS community.

    For those convinced Q is real, I make the case that you are correct. For those who think Q is a psy-op, you are correct, as well.

    I hope readers will follow the many links I have provided, because to include ALL the data would take an entire book (perhaps soon?). It is well worth the time to see what the US government itself says about psy-ops, and how those descriptions sound an awful lot like Q.

    Thank again and enjoy!



    • Kahlypso on February 27, 2019 at 4:28 am

      Read Mindwar Mr Grover.



    • Bryce on February 27, 2019 at 12:07 pm

      So agree w/your POV.
      Whatever/whoever is the genesis of Q woke some folks. That’s a good thing.
      If you haven’t plugged in the (all) tripcodes into googestapo books you’re in for a head scratcher.
      I know AI really gins/djins up some brain salad scramble, but I’ve yet to figure out why TPTB would want any of the sleeping to crack one of those books. Some authors I find questionable, but who knows…maybe they got something correct.
      Each tripcode has pages of them. From Smedley Butler, Operation Gladio, Franklin Cover-up, Montauk Project & on it goes. Here’s the current tripcode if you’re curious. Would appreciate expanding POV’s on this one. 😉
      !!mG7VJxZNCI



      • augenguy on February 28, 2019 at 7:21 am

        Yes, the tripcode cyphers are interesting and some of the choices are very good (Butler for one). Q’s habit of multi-layered messaging goes back to one of my earliest articles in which I point out the similarities between Q and Cicada 3301.

        Cicada 3301 fits nicely as a recruiting tool for Q in a timeline of events leading to its creation. I am planning a future article on Cicada, how it worked and what it reveals about Q’s operation. I hope you’ll come back for more.



        • Kahlypso on March 5, 2019 at 2:57 am

          You’re not allowed to talk or discuss about Cicada 🙂



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