Well... this is interesting. It seems that the CEO of one of the corporations that gave the world Zyklon B is under scrutiny and fire for his role in his corporation's buyout of the corporation that gave the world Agent Orange and Roundup with its carcinogenic and soil-nutrient-killing glyphosate; I.G. Farben meets Mon(ster)santo to become I.G. Farbensanto. And just in time, too, because we were being bombarded by the business schools and news that "bigger is better" and "economies of scale" and so on and so forth. Well, the last incarnation of I.G. Farben wasn't too pleasant, and its current manifestation appears to be little better. It is better in one major respect, and that is that in its current manifestation, I.G. Farbensanto can at least be taken to court and sued for the harm it is doing to people, and eventually I suppose, the harm it is doing the environment.

But there's a mystery here, and it prompts today's high octane speculation, based on the following article from Zero Hedge that many of you sent along this past week:

In "Stunning Decision" Bayer Shareholders Dump CEO Over Disastrous Monsanto Purchase

Normally I would not cite so much of an article, but here it is essential to do so, in order to highlight the strange mystery lying at the heart of the Bayer buy out of Mon(ster)santo:

Bayer, also known as IG Farben back in the day, survived World War II (which it helped fund for Hitler's war effort while recruiting a an army of slave workers), but it may not survive the worst acquisition in its history: the disastrous $63 billion purchase of Monsanto in 2018, which also brought over the infamous carcinogenic weed-killer Roundup, and with it countless lawsuits and legal charges.

And while the future of the iconic company which brought "cough medicine" Heroin to the world remains in question, as it is slowly been buried under an avalanche of lawsuits emerging from Monsanto's legacy misdeeds which have slammed its stock to 7 year lows...

Late on Friday, in what Bloomberg called a "stunning development" for the German drugs and chemicals company, a majority, or about 55% of shareholders, voted against absolving CEO Werner Baumann and other managers of responsibility for their actions in the Monsanto takeover last year. Though the result isn’t legally binding, it throws his future into question and prompted an immediate supervisory board session. Similar rejections have cost German CEOs their jobs.

“Mr. Baumann, what have you done with our stable company?,” said Joachim Kregel, a representative of German shareholders association SdK. In just two years, “the erstwhile pharma giant has mutated into a dwarf,” said Ingo Speich, chief of sustainability and corporate governance at Deka Investment.

Bayer Chairman Werner Wenning said the board is taking the vote “very seriously” and would “do everything to win back the trust of shareholders as quickly and completely as possible” adding that "we regret this exceedingly."

"Nevertheless, the voting results show that the stockholders’ meeting wanted to send a clear signal."

The vote, which took place at around 10 p.m. local time, capped a tumultuous meeting in Bonn, with investors berating Baumann, arguing with Wenning and demanding explanations for the erasure of some 35 billion euros ($39 billion) in market value since the deal.At the heart of the debate was whether Baumann, Wenning and other leaders properly assessed the legal risks of Roundup, the controversial weedkiller it acquired together with Monsanto, according to Bloomberg. (Boldface emphasis in the original, bold-italics emphasis added)

It's that last sentence that exposes the heart of the mystery, and that mystery has been hovering in the background ever since the buy-out occurred. We can sum up that mystery by putting it "country simple": why on earth did Bayer buy Mon(ster)santo in the first place, when the lawsuits pending against it were so numerous and potentially risky? What on earth possessed Bayer's executives not only to go through with the deal, but to pay cash for the headaches they bought themselves?

This question has not only troubled me ever since the acquisition was announced, but it has bothered others too. Catherine Austin Fitts and I have discussed it many times, both in her wrap up reports, and privately. I have discussed it with members of this website and with a few friends, and none of us can figure out what was going through the minds of Bayer's executives when they made this deal, for in the final analysis, it makes no sense.

If there is an answer to that question, it has to lie somewhere on the spectrum between "just plain stupidity" (perhaps mixed with a hefty bit of "corporate it-can't-happen-to-us-because-we're-good-and-smart-people hubris") to an admittedly high octane speculative scenario, which I advance here today for the first time: What if the whole thing was a deliberate act of sabotage of Bayer by agents provocateur carefully infiltrated into the company to influence its policy and direction? What if the whole thing was a part of some deliberate and wider "plan" of economic warfare between the USA and Germany, unloading an increasingly (and deservedly) unpopular American company on a German mega-corporation, and making the latter foot the bill for the lawsuits?  All that money flows from Bayer and Germany into the USA to pay for lawyers, and lawsuit settlements, leaving the stockholders in Bonn rightfully asking the same questions we are: why on earth did they do the buy-out in the first place?

Of course, that scenario sounds nutty, and like I've run completely off the end of the High Octane Speculation twig once again. I freely acknowledge how nutty it sounds.

But consider: we're told over and over by Mr. Globaloney that the nation-state is obsolete, and that mega-transnational corporations are doing end runs around national sovereignty, and that the world should be run by these corporations. In effect, they are saying that these corporations are the "new sovereignties" in the world. If so, then it stands to reason that they will start doing what sovereign nations have always done: they will spy on each other, they will infiltrate long-term sleeper agents into each other's organizations as agents provocateur, and seek to influence their competition's policies and decisions to the detriment of their competition, and to the advantage of themselves. They will raise mercenary armies and do battle with each other; they will hire assassins, and do all the other covert things that sovereign nations have done and still do.If you don't believe me, just recall the first example of such behavior, when the bankers of the Rialto helped to manipulate the crisis that put an end to the 14th century Florentine "mega-companies". So perhaps, just perhaps, some major global competitor of Bayer infiltrated such agents provocateur into the very top echelon of that company's leadership, and that leadership in turn bought, or was advised to buy, Mon(ster)santo, effectively hanging a millstone around Bayer's neck, and taking much needed funds from its R & D and shoveling them into non-productive, non-competitive activities like defending against lawsuits...  It's a stunningly efficient way to take out a competitor and use up its liquidity.

We'll know in good time, of course, whether that scenario is true or not, for I strongly suspect that those Bayer shareholders are going to demand an investigation, or conduct one of their own because they won't be in the mood to accept any explanations from the leadership that created the mess, and the precipitous drop in their share value.

And if that scenario to any degree should be born out by coming disclosures and investigations, then its a reminder of a general principle that my nutty scenario can apply to other corporations, and may rationalize corporate behavior that otherwise makes no sense from conventional analysis.

See you on the flip side...


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  1. Zeke on May 14, 2019 at 1:48 am

    I’d LIKE TO believe Bayer bought out Monsteranto not because they were sabotaged to do so, but because they think they can just tame it for good use if not slay it.

    The realist in me says that’s wishful thinking and look out ahead for more battle with the corporate structures ruining the world.

  2. Wlfgang on May 2, 2019 at 2:47 pm

    There is an excellent health organization that talks a great deal about these pollutants, their impact on our health, the planet, the mind, mood, weight, all of it. It is called Hippocrates Health Institute – I enjoy watching the videos from many of the MD’s who believe in Whole Foods diets, reducing chemical load all you can, and not participating in the pollution mafia’s disregard for all life and their continuous efforts of BIOCIDE. Here is a great video to get you started – it is long – 2.5 hours but they cover a good spectrum of questions about many issues we are facing from Cell Phones, Herbicides (we should never ever be putting this on our grass or anywhere) to Florida, and so on: It’s called: Chemicals, Toxins, Pesticides, and Radiation in our Food, Water, Air, and Soil –

    Well worth a listen – get our your pens or word docs and be prepared to take notes and further study of this org and the MD’s who support it.

    • Wlfgang on May 2, 2019 at 2:50 pm

      Also, sorry for typos….typing w/injured hand w/cast :)…

  3. Jo S. on April 30, 2019 at 10:53 am

    Another possibility, to add to my previous post which is not showing today, that Bayer might “hang the wrap” for non hodgkins lymphoma on Merck sv40 …

    • Jo S. on April 30, 2019 at 10:56 am

      Apologies. previous post so far down the thread, I missed it.

  4. Maatkare3114 on April 30, 2019 at 4:49 am

    The EU know about the flawed report on glyphosate, but are carrying on as normal until 2022. I guess they want to get as many of us ‘useless eaters’ as they can.

    The population must be controlled.

    Monsanto’s glyphosate-based weedkiller will be used in Europe for years to come, legal experts and campaigners say, despite a U.S. court ruling the company should pay $289 million in damages for causing cancer.

    The EU last year renewed use of the controversial weedkiller for another five years after a yearslong political debate over its safety and impact on the environment. That means Europe will have to wait until the end of 2022 at the earliest before making any attempt to ban the substance outright.

    EU regulators based a decision to relicense the controversial weedkiller glyphosate on an assessment plagiarised from industry reports, according to a report for the European parliament.

    A crossparty group of MEPs commissioned an investigation into claims, revealed by the Guardian, that Germany’s Federal Institute for Risk Assessment (BfR) copy-and-pasted tracts from Monsanto studies.

    The authors said they found “clear evidence of BfR’s deliberate pretence of an independent assessment……The European Food Safety Authority (Efsa), based its recommendation that glyphosate was safe for public use on the BfR’s assessment.
    Brussels, 21 March 2018

    The Commission has today decided to give conditional approval to Bayer’s plans to buy Monsanto under EU merger rules. We were able to do so because of the significant remedies the companies offered, which met our competition concerns in full.

    Glyphosate, neurological diseases – and the scientific method
    Miguel A. Faria*

    The commenter makes a disturbing reference to the overpopulation of Africa and Asia as an insoluble problem. The reality is that the US Department of State uses taxpayer dollars to promote corporate owned biotechnology and chemical-based agriculture around the planet. Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said: “Control oil and you control nations; control food and you control the people.” The principles and ideas set forth in the National Security Study Memorandum 200, December 10, 1974 aka “The Kissinger Report” included population control for US and overseas interests; its intent has never changed.

    I personally witnessed the implementation of that program in 1974, in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and had discussions with African attendees. The program brought leaders from African nations to the USA to be trained in management for the conduct of business in line with US interests in exchange for US aid and easy access to oil, gas, and mineral wealth. It also included a population control agenda, the programs of which continue even to this day. Getting countries hooked on US biotechnology and chemical dependence may be job security for some, but it is not sustainable. It causes great harm to people and to the planet, and it is downright immoral. As a research scientist and global consultant, I discourage all nations from buying into the model of industrial chemical addiction.

    Monsanto and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) knew in 1981 that glyphosate induced tumorigenic growth of both adenomas and carcinomas. Their own long-term studies [2,5,6,8] conducted in rats and mice show glyphosate’s ability to induce tumorigenic growth of glands and major organs [Tables [Tables11–3]. The studies were submitted to the US EPA during the original registration and review process for glyphosate. It took 4 months and a US Senator to finally gain access and obtain these studies for our continuing research. I was required to sign an agreement with the government not to give them to foreign nationals under penalty of law. The kissinger report 1974

    Implications of Worldwide Population Growth
    For U.S. Security and Overseas Interests
    December 10, 1974

    As a grandmother, I fear for my grandchildren.

  5. zendogbreath on April 30, 2019 at 12:02 am

    www dot youtube dot com/watch?v=mX5OiRRNRnU
    GMO Foods, Glyphosate, Autism & Obesity – Stephanie Seneff

  6. Jo S. on April 29, 2019 at 11:34 pm

    1). glyphosate et all may make for easier and more abundant production, but WHAT is it doing to our gut flora and fauna?
    2). Is there something in German business law / structure that will make dealing with roundup liability issues easier for a German company than for an American one? ie., the Bayer acquisition will make it easier to handle. Or create delays to stretch it beyond statute of limitations? And paying cash keeps prying eyes and analysts with question out of the picture.
    3). 1000 annual subscription is not that much. The ag user base is not large compared products like adobe and cell phone companies and other subscription services. Unless, that data is being used elsewhere and generating revenue from another source.

    I do not believe Bayer is blind or clueless … these people know exactly what they are doing. Clever. Crafty. Corporatists.

    • Jo S. on April 29, 2019 at 11:35 pm

      To me the acquisition looks more like a “hand off” than a poison pill.

      • zendogbreath on April 29, 2019 at 11:58 pm

        jo s, could not agree with you more. if nothing else the hand off gets monstersanto execs out of ussa jurisdiction when a court finds somewhere that not only did they poison an entire country (actually more than a few) but that they did it knowingly, repeatedly and premeditated.

        seriously, no gmo’s allowed in their corporate cafe? ever? hilariously obvious. did ford outlaw use of pintos and crown vics by employees while they were blowing up? did anyone not smoke in the 50’s and 60’s? let alone tobacco farmers and workers? did nabisco ban oreos in their companies? or nestle any of their worst for you products?

        doug, from your clear and honest note, i’m guessing you have faithfully eaten glyphosated gmo products for years if not decades. does it bother you that monsanto mgmt has not? and will not?

  7. zendogbreath on April 29, 2019 at 11:00 pm

    i love optimists who face down all other reasons for pessimism and persist optimistically. just the same doc, i’m chalking this up to wishful thinking. if there was a doubt at bayerfarbenmonstersanto about what they’ve done, they’d spin it off as how many others have done in a heartbeat (think unocal and bhopal). their accountants already have plans to capitalize on this perception disaster. meanwhile consider some fundamentals:

    what company (besides emf pollution) has caused more pollinator (bee) die off than any other with their neonicotinoids? what company has caused reductions year over year in ag productivity requiring increased use of herbicides and increasingly toxified croplands? what two companies have contributed more to the coming ag apocolypse (or at least major enough drop in supply to starve quite a few countries)? what two companies have done more to cripple farmers’ production of food crops, let alone seed crops for next years production. what company drove all the seed processors out of business with insane law suits alleging patent infringement. (farmers used to uniformly hold back 10% of their crop for next year’s planting – seed processors who travelled farm to farm are all since out of business)

    what two companies combined stand to profit more from agricultural collapse?

    who owns patents on the majority (vast?) of all patentable seeds? who owns the majority of seed production that farmers are all now dependent on regardless of gmo or non? who owns the seed banks? who’s buying and building the tech for artificial pollinators?

    nah. don’t worry. it’s all jump off the twig conspiracy theorizing.

  8. goshawks on April 29, 2019 at 7:55 pm

    Two things interest me about the infernal tie-up:

    First, Bayer management had to know about the potential/impending lawsuits and then ignored them. To me, that suggests an ulterior motive for the buy-out (especially with cash, to make it immediate and final). I would opine that some higher-up PTB had a ‘pet project’ (from Monsanto) which they wanted under their umbrella and said, “Make it happen. Lawsuit risks be d@mned…”

    Second, Monsanto may have assured Bayer that US judges were firmly on a leash. Nothing would ever come of the lawsuits. Business as usual. (Just like tobacco lawsuits were dramatically scaled-back when corporate-friendly gov’t interests took control.) We have seen a few judges follow their consciences and rule against Monsanto. That is the interesting part. What changed? (Whether that ‘precedent’ allows a landslide of lawsuits or is quashed, we will see…)

  9. marcos toledo on April 29, 2019 at 6:46 pm

    Speaking of sabotage what is your thoughts of the mess at Boing with its 737 upgrade. As for Bayer and Monsanto, the idea of sabotage couldn’t be happening to two deserving companies.

  10. Bryce on April 29, 2019 at 2:20 pm

    HOS is highly plausible. No doubt all these corporate wankers have their own mercs.
    My first thought was IGF’s 9/11 market connections.
    The good ol’ Romney boi asset/pension stripping/bankruptcy.
    Liability off loaded on the tax payer.
    Fake dissolution, rebranding…wash, rinse, repeat.
    Watta harvest, eh?

  11. DanaThomas on April 29, 2019 at 11:31 am

    The idea that Bayer was “infiltrated” deserves investigation. On the other hand, like other megacorporations, it could benefit from unlimited “free money” from central banks. Unfortunately for Bayer, its shareholders are actual real human beings and not algo-powered robots, and thus perhaps capable of understanding that the economy (and profits) should serve people and not viceversa.
    As for glyphosate, its detrimental effects on human health are indisputable, whatever courts or bought-and-paid-for research might say.
    Fortunately I live in Europe where consumers can choose to avoid buying anything containing, or likely to contain, wheat, corn and soya produced in the US. Opting for organic or certified natural and local produce is a good way to avoid any unwanted (and mostly unlabelled) GMOs or glyphosate-treated materials.

  12. Robert Barricklow on April 29, 2019 at 11:31 am

    Post as I read…
    Perhaps a Blackwater move to change name.
    Of course, this would probably involve a straw purchase where the profit side is sold to the straw man & the debt-ridden lawsuit side takes the fall. You get the idea – maintain the current global strategy:
    Privatize the profit$; socialize the cost$.

    • Robert Barricklow on April 29, 2019 at 2:58 pm

      Continuing to read and post…
      Perhaps Monsanto is hiding something…
      to get lost in the shuffle?

      Infiltration/under the auspices of corporate espionage…?
      Economic warfare! But, paybacks’ a u-no-what?

      Then the way these corporations are owned by the same families; what appears to be black & white, is decidedly grey. By passing laws in one nation state and dumping the problem there to, in essence bury it. In the end see who pays who. In what currency? Zimbabwean dollars?
      In other words when the endless litigations finally end this century, or next; what will really be the punishment.?
      Or, in the end,
      will real the scam please stand up, to tell the truth?

      • Robert Barricklow on April 29, 2019 at 3:03 pm

        Either way the genies’ out of the bottle/lab and being consumed. Not only that, it’s gone to the wild winds of distribution.
        So, it’s not dollars that are the real lost; but the…
        Living Wealth; that is, real wealth is being lost.

  13. Doug Bowersox on April 29, 2019 at 8:57 am

    I am a Penna. grain farmer.
    Bayer bought Monsanto, primarily, to get control of a Monsanto division called Climate Corporation. Climate Corporation’s information app is offered to farmers with an annual subscription of $1000. I am told the profitability of the division is beyond the that of Bayer’s agro-chemical division.
    The Climate Corp app offers farmers in field SPATIAL data record keeping as it is all tied to GPS. Things like varieties & date planted, fertilizers, manures and green cover crops used, pesticides used, harvest date and foot by foot yields recording. Furthermore, Climate Corp offers satellite “field green-ness” imagery to farmers. New photos are offered to farmers weekly. Farmers use these to troubleshoot less green areas. The app is very useful to farmers to help increase productivity and profitability with very low environmental impact as these troubled spots can be addressed instead of whole fields.
    Also, all this data goes to and is used by Bayer. It is a mountain of data that certainly has gold nuggets that can be used to vastly increase world food production with low environmental impact. And certainly, Bayer will profit from the technology that their A.I. will ferret out. But that is the American way. Fair trade for a fair trade. Bayer decided that “in the long run”, Climate Corp. value will vastly exceed any Glyphosate (Roundup) liability.
    Having used Glyphosate for 45 years, I strongly dispute that it has detrimental soil productivity effects. Corn productivity on my farm has increased 200% on my farm during that period with declining inputs. Furthermore, Glyphosate is THE key to making Never-till farming work. Tillage (used in organic farming) is madness. Never till farming keeps a roof of living and dead plant on the surface. This increased water infiltration and all but shuts down soil and wind erosion. Soil and wind erosion has the possibility to end mankind. Furthermore, Tillage allows excessive oxygen into the soil which combines with the carbon in the organic matter. The organic matter is “burned out” of the soil with release to the atmosphere.. Look up “Soil Carbon Burp” and it’s inverse, “Carbon Sequestration by No-tilling”. Tilling is like ripping the roof off of your house to the life in the soil. Scientists and farmers know the devastation of erosion. Jurys have decided that Glyphosate is damaging. JURYS, LET’S GET REAL.
    No good deed goes unpunished.

    • Randy on April 29, 2019 at 10:03 am

      Mr.Bowersox I live in Penna, Harrisburg ,may I ask where you live ? Very interesting thoughts.

      • Doug Bowersox on April 29, 2019 at 10:54 am

        Snyder County, Middleburg

        • Randy on April 29, 2019 at 6:22 pm

          Thank you,Beautiful country up there ! (off 104?) & it’s “funny” ….the silence on views ???? on here. Very interesting best of luck

          • zendogbreath on April 29, 2019 at 11:12 pm

            randy, silence? how so?

            doug, genius. thank you. the only issue i can take is that no (or reduced) tillage can and is better done without glyphosate. you’re the first monsanto customer i’ve heard of reducing tillage. and increasing production without increasing spraying. maybe argentina and brazil have not been as smart with their usage.

            by now you checked out joel salatin, right?


            www dot amazon dot com/s?k=joel+salatin&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

            www dot polyfacefarms dot com/

        • zendogbreath on April 29, 2019 at 11:13 pm

          btw, doug, you do understand that tech you outlined will replace you with just the same finesse that 12% of our jobs are going away to autonomous cars and trucks right?

          • zendogbreath on April 29, 2019 at 11:16 pm

            i know that number seems high. besides truck and car drivers, consider forklift, warehouse, just about any job that currently requires a minimum of human moment to moment guidance. seen the inside of a walmart, 3m or amazon distribution center lately?

          • Randy on April 30, 2019 at 11:37 am

            I’ll let Doug speak for himself …as far as driver less trucks …where’s the infrastructure for that ? I am an Professional Driver ! & I am pretty sure NYC is NO WHERE near that “possibility” …yet! (as well as any major CITY) & YES it is coming !?! There are so many instances out on the road that require Quick responses by multiple humans …now factor that in …in NYC traffic (or you name the major city) ….no offense but people are watching to many movies ….I work with multiple GPS’s 5 days a week ( 100.000 miles a yr) & it… GPS f’s up ALOT more than you think ….I could tell you the most bizarre things I’ve seen ? & IT happens more than you think …but yes IT is coming (& part of me says great) …AI/infrastructure isn’t there …yet ? Have you been on the road with cars ,trucks ….how do you think AI would react ? Lol the driving public hates us (truckers) ….but EVERYTHING you touch ,see,use,live in ,drive &on ·& on & on ….you name IT! a fellow trucker “touched” IT I LOVE my Chosen Profession !!! I TRY ta the best of my ability being safe ,courteous & did I say SAFE !!! …it’s how I was taught ….my ONLY GOAL is getting you & I ….. at the end of the day ….home !!!!! & lmfao I got the truckers ….mouth (know I offend doc & most of u’s) lol ….but back ta Doug ….I just haven’t heard his views & we just happen ta live in the same State lol ….I love the fact that “we” can TALK ta each other on this site & wwe/wwiii doesn’t brake out (even tho 95% of the time I don’t know WTF u’s/doc are talking ’bout¿) hehe ….& for the record I type this WAY ….on purpose!!! Lol folks it’s gonna be alright. good in the end always works out ….but IT don’t come easy ….docs new book (McCarty,Monmouth,And The Deep State ) on pg 52 is a whopper dosey ….so far hehe & John Lennon was right there’s Nazis in the bathroom, just below the stairs (nobody told me ) always ,always always ….Nazis lurking ’bout

          • zendogbreath on May 1, 2019 at 12:17 am

            welcome randy. good to see ya here. you’re not the only driver on here. looks like you will probably be one of the last still driving. they’re hitting the easy marks first. driverless pallet jacked loads. seen em. hairy how fast efficient and dangerous – for humans who get in the way.

            it’s the same as dat for what luddites went through. their only mistake was not recognizing what they were up against. while you’re dropping and picking loads take a look in some of the big warehouses. pallet jacks, sorting systems, floor sweeps, loaders, unloaders – there’s a reason why the closest bathroom is a 3/4 mile walk away. anything they can do indoors can be done out. just takes a little longer.

            that’s one of the main points of 5g.

          • Randy on May 1, 2019 at 10:31 am

            zendogbreath thanks looks like we are a dying breed lol …I posted on here earlier about ALL these massive dock/wharehouses here in Pa/NJ …but mostly Pa ….they are huge & a lot of them are empty? …but “they” keep on building them ?? I believe like doc said ( forget where) every 500 yrs or so comes a massive change in society& I think 1 is coming …it’d just be neat 1 time ….if IT would benefit ALL mankind for ONCE!!! ( the things we should be doing ) ….just wish some youngsters would get the opportunity to see this BEAUTIFUL AWESOME COUNTRY & it’s PEOPLE …by an truck ! (ta see the excitement on little kids faces as they pass a truck …it still happens folks!!! ) ya know folks some of the “old ways” ….aren’t all that bad ?? zendogbreath as well as All out there ….be safe & enjoy Our great rock WE all call home it’s gonna be alright folks lol believe it or not ….there are ALOT of good people out there …’s just takes some-thin REALLY BAD ….ta get em ta rise UP ?

    • WalkingDead on April 29, 2019 at 11:36 am

      Glyphosate permeates virtually everything we eat. In the more developed nations, virtually every individual can be tested positive for it in their body. I, personally, do not care for eating it, as no long term testing has been done on the long term effects of consuming it have been done other than using the entire population of the Earth as test subjects.
      The same applies to the GMO crops which these chemicals are used on. They are aberrations of nature; chimeras with no natural method of production. The geneticists are playing God without the knowledge of the long term side effects and resulting mutations their creations might possibly have on the natural world; and the use of the entire population of the Earth as test subjects is immoral and highly questionable.
      The simple fact that all this is being done for the short term profit of these corporations and their globalist owners with absolutely no concern for the long term consequences smacks of an agenda which does not appear to be benign.

      • zendogbreath on April 29, 2019 at 11:45 pm

        no need to speculate and write with uncertainty. there’s a reason why glyphosate is half of agent orange. it displaces glycine and allows animals to be better poisoned. it originally was an antibiotic. stephanie senff is a name we all do well to get more familiar with – more so than andy wakefield. and del bigtree and rfk jr.

        www dot youtube dot com/watch?v=o3P6wVUH0pc
        This is the Best Explanation of the Vaccine/Autism Connection I’ve Ever Heard!

        arguing for monstersanto is tobacco science. the lawyers, pr companies and prostituted scientists are the same as the ones who did it to us for tobacco, sugar (remember ancel keys?), and any other industry that goes into denial mode for all their sins (ford pintos? lead in water – flint, leaded gasoline, lead in paint? btw has anyone here listened to bill gates argue why we need to bring back ddt to save the world from malaria and other diseases?

        the only questions left are not whether or not glyphosate is a human bane nor of what proportion. the only question that should be easy to prove is did the executives know it and willinging go forward (similar to how bayer knowingly sold aids tainted blood products into eu and afro markets after the ussa rejected it).

        doug, to discount the intelligence of a jury of peers given time to learn and deliberate using scientists and lawyers seems a bit odd from anyone intelligent enough to make a living farming. i have heard similar strategy and tactics from folk discussing farmers. never from anyone who’s made a living at it though.

    • Don B on April 29, 2019 at 12:20 pm

      You make what appears to be a sound argument for the use of these chemicals, etc, but it would be interesting to hear the organic side. db

    • OrigensChild on April 29, 2019 at 6:48 pm

      Doug, this is possibly the most lucid and effective post you’ve written on the subject here at this site. I doubt seriously you’ve changed many opinions, though. I welcome you input but remain skeptical. Skepticism notwithstanding I do extend to you the respect and consideration you deserve as a farmer doing your best to provide benefits to our country and our culture. I hope you are right.

      In my mind if we deal with the corporate welfare model deployed by both the socialist and fascist wings of the America’s Business First Party the business climate will become much more sober about the important things. As long as corporations are persons and remain the primary recipients of the citizen’s largesse and treasure, they have no incentive to curb their voracious appetites for market consolidation, sales and mercantilism. I am no friend to Hamiltonian economic theorists. As long as their theories are implemented without checks and balances, their historical track record of waste, fraud, abuse and destruction will continue unabated to the ruin of our planet. If they destroy this one they should not get the chance to destroy another.

  14. anakephalaiosis on April 29, 2019 at 7:40 am

    Corporate golems
    are tumbleweeds erecting
    Tower of Babel.

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