OXFORD DON: ETs INTERBREEDING WITH HUMANS
In case you haven't noticed, there has been all sorts of strange news lately that in one way or another ties to the subject of space, UFOs, extra-terrestrials, and so on. And this story is right at the top of all the rest (it was shared by an individual who wishes to remain "initials anonymous"):
Now what I find very intriguing here is not only that it is an Oxford professor who is pushing the "alien visitation" meme, but that this meme is being pushed in conjunction with other favored memes of "the elites", like nuclear weapons and "climate change":
The Oxford Student has learnt that Dr Young-hae Chi, Professor at Oxford’s Oriental Institute, believes in a strong correlation between climate change and alien abductions.
In 2012, Dr Chi gave a lecture at the the Ammach Conference, titled ‘Alien Abduction and the Environmental Crisis’ in which he outlined his theory concerning the presence of aliens on earth.
Dr Chi began his lecture with the statement that “perhaps human civilisation is coming to an end”.
In his fifty-five minute presentation he cited Dr David Jacobs, an ‘abduction researcher’ in the US, who argued that aliens’ primary purpose is to colonise the earth, by interbreeding with humans to produce a new hybrid species. Second generation ‘hybrids’ are, according to Jacobs, walking unobserved among us.
Dr Chi argued that “it is not only scientists and theologians, but also non-human species who appear to be greatly concerned about the survivability of the human species”.
He pointed out that the timing of aliens’ appearance coincides with the earth facing major problems, climate change and nuclear weapons in particular.
He concludes that “it may be more or less assumed that the hybrid project is a response to this impending demise of human civilisation”.
He went on to argue that if we act now on climate change, “not only can we save ourselves, but also prove aliens wrong in their judgement of our moral capacity”.
As one might imagine, this has my high octane speculation motor running in high gear.
So without further ado, here it is:
I strongly suspect that what we're looking at here is not simply a one-off, i.e., we are not looking at an eccentric professor providing us with an amusing story about his quirky theory about aliens and "climate change." Rather, we're looking at the next step - the trial balloon so to speak - in the information and meme game of the globaloneyists. That step is to tie together any issue of "global importance," be it "climate change", extra-terrestrials, asteroid impacts, or what have you. If that reading is correct, then Mr. Globaloney is taking an extreme risk, and playing for very high stakes, for in effect what Mr. Globaloney is really doing is saying that he wants everyone on earth to believe that ETs not only exist, but that they're "here" and "concerned" whether or not one chooses to question the evidence for that position. The approach, notably, is similar to Mr. Globaloney's attitude to "climate change": one must believe in it. In this respect it is interesting that Dr. Chi ties all this together in the form of a predictive belief, a kind of climate change-ET eschatology:
When asked whether he holds a pessimistic view of the future, Dr Chi expressed concern that there is a lack of political will to prevent climate change even if we have the necessary technology. He said, “Judging from the way the ETs are acting they have a better view of our future, perhaps it is pointing to a pessimistic future”.
He added, “So, they come not for the sake of us, but for the sake of them, their survival, (but their survival is actually our survival as well) the survival of the entire biosphere. That is where I progressed in developing my theory and I’m still looking for more evidence to support my view.”
In other words, what Dr. Chi is promoting is a belief system, one incorporating ETs and Climate change, and if I am correct in my high octane speculation, this is a trial balloon for more to come.
If so, it comes at a very interesting time, when every effort is being made to shut down, destroy, and make people forget the central core of this civilization. That central core, if taken seriously, would say that there's nothing unusual about "alien visitation" per se. It would only say that the record is not morally uniform and consistent as to the nature of that visitation; some of it was good, and some of it was evil, and thus that some of those "ETs" and their "visitations" had nothing whatsoever to do with "preserving the biosphere" or "climate change" or any of the fluffy bromides of our modern, ugly, and theologically illiterate culture; it had everything to do with destroying humanity and its biosphere. In fact, it would take One to recognize that all the promised benefits and technological power they offered mankind in the form of all the kingdoms of the Earth was, in fact, a trap. All we had to do was bow down, and worship them and serve their memes...
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This was the statement that raised the biggest flag for me….
“Thirdly, some abductees report that these hybrids are of a very high intelligence, so are they producing these hybrids as a problem-solver, a future leader?”
…. extremely leery of problem solving future leaders.
First let me say, there is no “we”. The idea of “humanity” is a globalist meme. 300 years ago there were 6000 language representing 6000 cultures representing 6000 humanities. Each of us are very unique. You are not me. We are never one, we are two.
It is globalist to assume that the experience of the subspecies “Homo indoorsian” that has arisen in last century and is destroying planet, represents all of “humanity.” The indigenous view is that industrial society is not humanity, it is insane. Artificial lifestyle, completely dependent on industrialization and pollution, is not “humanity”, it is disease. One can argue, but millions of other species know that Homo Indoorsian is a disease.
I have co – incarnated with Dr. Steven Greer for a long time. I was a hybrid you might say, that has gone native. I was part of a branch of the satanists, and have come around in the last three incarnations. I was at signing of Magna Carta, which was to bring about a “nice” New World Order.
When Greer was Ben Franklin, who brought this Earth the worst environmentally destructive tech, electricity, I was Jefferson who helped destroy the Cherokee Nation, owned slaves and arranged the Luisiana Purchase. When Greer was Yogandanda, a globalist trying to “unite” east and west”, I was a homosexual Rothschild puppet bringing India to the UN as a block, named Ghandi. I have met Greer. He confirmed the Yogananda incarnation. We are same age this time. He is now a lost soul, his best people have left CSETI, and he travels alone without fear because he doesn’t do “free will”, he normalizes his fairy tale cosmologies.
Back to Earth, some of the commentors here like Vajra are very good at contemplating, but I ask, what are you doing about it as actual action? Native American saying – “Does it grow corn?”
I appreciate the widespread research here in comments.
Since there were very technological (intrusive) global civilizations in past, as proven by megalithic structures, like Giza, we cannot say ET are new. We can also not say ET are a monoculture block, That is,. there are infinite ET. Just as we shouldn’t use word humanity, we need to see ET as a spread, and then distinguish between satanic ET and compassionate ET.
We can assume that good and evil exists in the spread of ET civilizations as it does in each of us. Good allows natural diversity, evil tries to take dominion. Therefore, we see a war occurring on this planet between intentions.
Once everyone realizes that we don’t die, we just keep arriving somewhere, then you might see that we are all ET, or ET just means a sentient soul that hasn’t been here long. What is an Earthling? It might be someone who has been here long enough to say “this is my Mom and this is home.”
The illuminati control almost everything. The Rothschilds funded and placed Churchill, FDR, Stalin, Gandhi, Mussolini, and Mao. HItler was grandson of Soloman Rothschild. (Rothschild funded Marx too.)
Chinese satanists are now taking over Hollywood. Jewish satanic control is passing to Chinese control. The same negative, relatively heartless beings, the ones that might reject Jesus for example, are now passing the baton to the Chinese, with their live organ harvesting (from living people) and social scoring.
The Chinese communists are definitely heartless.
I appreciate all the comments here, especially one of the first ones, by Sandygirl, May 7 8:56, and it seems the response by zendogbreath was trite, sarcastic and cynical, bringing into question his use of word zen.
My sensei was Kobun Chino Roshi who did marriage ceremony for Steve Jobs. Both were murdered. With conscience out of the way, Apple moved from creativity to murdering millions with wifi, no opt out.
If you don’t know that wifi is slow kill, please study it, and resist 5G roll out.
Zen is not separate from Buddhism. Buddhism is an ET effort to bring compassion to the mix. Buddha proceeded Jesus, same effort.
Please everyone, check out the reptilian Pope’s Audience Hall , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WC-pVdGgK4.
You can see some of my research at http://www.lipstick-and-war-crimes.org
i cannot and have no desire to take issue with any of that save “trite, sarcastic and cynical”? kinda embarrassing to be tasked with defending a comment that emphasizes sandy girl’s most excellent sentiment. she is spot on: peace love and understanding seem decidedly under-rated by current plutocrats.
question: how might one so separate or otherwise connected “resist” 5g?
rave / So it’s the ‘aliens’ that are lying to us about everything including climate change and have no respect for science and the need to prove one’s conjectures. Chi relies on one possible alien called Dr David Jacobs. (I have not and will not spend time on it). I know if the academic slave’s studies lead to shame and blame of their masters, they would not publish, and would be rendered peerless if they even hinted at it without approval. (/Blues Brothers, excessive violence by the police/mafia has been approved)
As renegade comedian and erstwhile goat teat milker Owen Benjamin (https://www.youtube.com/user/owenbenjamincomedy/videos) says, Hitler was a great leader (murderous, but great like Ghengis Khan)….
I say Hiller’s mistake was to shun the Rottenchild’s Alien masters of this little universe and to attempt to 3d print his own UFO’s .
[The second Iron Sky movie, the coming race has these alien breeding nephalim type of stuff in it – funny how the club all cycle through the same memes at the same time isn’t it? (I was disappointed in it on my first viewing this week, same as True Detective S02 didn’t hold a candle to the first one , the S03 was almost up to it though).]
I see it as showbiz, the earth as down to earth, no evidence for any of the high octane stuff, and it all makes perfect sense studying up on ‘them’ and their history of making shit up and ignoring the basics that nature, and true religions, could teach them. all else is astral projections of their calf dancing templates trying to get us all into the delusions, to be exploited by the levitical class, as they have been exploited, somewhat willingly, for millennia .
if we do not cooperate with that (as Owen Benjamin has done), then that forces them to come out with more increasingly ineffective wizardry, dirty tricks, and revelations of their wickedness by way of projection. plus we all get on with our lives better without all that distraction. let’s call them high ass aliens God for the sake of simplicity, heh? / end rave
The one to be careful of in this territory is over simplification/dualistic thinking, and the unconditional taking on board of whatever package of memes we happen to fasten on to.
The basic for example is that much of what gets published on any of these topics is trying if not to influence people then at least trying to drive sales/website hits or whatever.
It’s very hard to be certain of much, which means that it’s a matter of walking between the raindrops. Even then any view can only at best be a tentative and continuously evolving working hypothesis.
What is clear however is that we for all the talk of culture and the like have a pretty awful record as a race – so far as resort to force and causing the most horrendous suffering for all life on the planet for selfish gain is concerned.
Not only that we’ve done the most horrendous damage to the planet, it’s biosphere and ecosystems.
Far from improving we seem actually as technologies , corporatisation and globalisation enable an ever wider reach and ever more pervasive effects to actually be getting worse by the day.
Most of our ecological and environmental initiatives seem actually to be driven by vested interests, and to at best be only decoys intended to create the impression of concerned action.
Then there’s the little matter of potentially planet destroying nuclear and other weapons of mass destruction and so on.
It’s for these reasons hardly any surprise that ‘they’ might choose quite apart from holding back for reasons to do with the karmic consequences of intereference to be very concerned about us and where we’re headed.
We have as before a very unhealthy addiction to and readiness to resort to the use power to force our will on others – we routinely seek it, and defer to it no matter where it leads in the hope of short term gain/getting out with a bundle before the s*** hits the fan.
It does seem that we’ve suffered for milennia under a shady and clearly negative elite (who may well have learned their trade from a rather nasty brand of visitor, and may for that matter still be working for/with them) – people who for many centuries have for example been perfectly happy to seed fear (with the help of institutional religions) to incite conflict.
This so that they can then fund both sides to profit from the resulting wars – while simultaneously strengthening their own positions.
It’s easy to blame ‘them’, but the hard fact as before is that we collude in this through our almost universal readiness to serve them while trying to get on their band wagon too.
What seems equally clear is that there are positive influences out there working very hard to help us, and to contain the problem.
There’s numerous bodies of literature which (even if the language is different) if read with an open mind align on the key points as to the nature of the physical and higher reality we inhabit, the nature of the human animal and what we’re here for.
There clearly also is higher guidance and assistance on tap for all, but we have to find the courage to trust and to reach for it. The law of free will means that we are equally free to blunder about digging an ever deeper hole for ourselves.
The space brothers thing (as in the case of a lot of conspiracy stuff) is in many respects a diversion – we risk inaction while foolishly waiting to be rescued, or in our enthusiasm to prejudge and deny the non-ordinary (whether ET or otherwise) end up making so much noise and hogging the agenda to the extent that we block all possibility of constructive debate – about the things WE really do need to take care of.
There’s other stuff we need to sort to enable this – how to think, how to care for others, find the conviction to address what truly needs doing (instead of pretending everything is getting better and better while spinning it for short term gain), commit to peace, learn how to stay healthy instead of making an industry of illness, connect and work with nature, recognise that we cannot be happy if we’re not connected with others and commmitted to harmony and helping each other, recognise that war and aggression can only end in misery. etc etc.
The bit that’s as clear as day is that we need to take the blinkers off and awaken to our situation and where we’re headed.
We’re the slowest of learners, in that we’ve been at this for milennia and still keep on walking into doors.
The good news I guess is that there are very positive signs about that a very powerful awakening is in progress, but we’ve such a distance to go…
may you be right and these ideas become more accurate soon. thank you.
here’s why i’m suspicious of the intent of the committee and the folk who seem most supportive of the rothtillians –
Joe Rogan Experience #1292 – Lex Fridman – Clip – Twitter, Friendships, and who is on top.
does anyone have any knowledge of the edge group? or the intellectual dark web?
From “Karlima Rani” by Sri Ananda Acharya, published in 1921:
“There are men now living on this earth who have come from other stars to introduce the idea of unity here. They are very few in number but they are working untiringly and they are in touch with us all.”
g and v, rereading you got me thinking more.
v, what you’re posing is the exact scenario being promoted by tommy williams et al with the manna world holding trust. he’s only held my interest so far through some of his insights into current events that demonstrate a very different and usually much more accurate take on events. his take on past history is an interesting stroll as well. first i’d heard of tartarians and on.
either way when he gets to ranting about how humans need to get their act together to do this or that or grock some paradigm shift that’s holding us up, it feels like a double bind. a catch 22 to use as an excuse while he and his allegedly powerful enough friends to send marduk and all his anti-human monsters running can’t seem to get the fed replaced and the rottenchildren to stand down.
btw g, i think we or someone here (maybe doc?) addressed awhile back how bitcoin and carbon tax are simply the new replacement for the fed and the us dollar, right?
We are a flock of 3D sheep being farmed/slaved by 4D shepherds. Religion, the financial system, the education system, the legal system, etc, are the shepherds’ sheep dogs, components of the control mechanism.
We are farmed for our ability to create reality (an ability which most of us have been trained to forget that we even have) and for our energy/chi/life force. Our planet’s principal exports are DNA and precious metals.
If more of us snapped out of our brainwashing, we would realize that, while shepherds need sheep, sheep don’t need shepherds, and we could take our place as free members of the galactic family of civilizations.
Quote:”Our planet’s principal exports are DNA and precious metals.”
There’s one more.
A very important export – energy
More specifically, negative energy – the essence of pain
When this meme turns to hysteria it could lead to mandatory DNA testing for public school students and public employees – to try to catch the hybrids. Eventually there will be compulsory DNA/Hybrid screening for drivers licenses and ID cards.
The airport scanners have been doing that work for years. They’re trying to find out who’s here.
they’ll use the same to impose mandatory vaccines to all:
Love is “in the air,” and the aliens have over time created a custom which has practically obtained the force of law. Congratulations to the conquerors for their having got mixed-up with sin nature – tar baby humanity!
WOW! What interesting comments, everyone!!! I agree with Dr. Katherine Horton that in all hierarchical “systems”, the psychopaths always arrive at The Top of the structure…..to control the rest of us!!! Religions have done that job by keeping our minds thinking within a tight little ‘box’.
I think I agree with the posture that “someone” is terraforming this planet for their own habitation. How else can one explain the continual spraying that has been going on in our skies for decades??? A MO “hillbilly”, Mike Morales of Above Ground World News, has figured out the mechanics of how “they” are operating. He is so “on target” with his observations that he is often “targeted” himself!!
Within the Christian concept there has been no room for thinking “outside the box” we were handed. Other civilizations were regarded as inferior & their histories as “myth”. DUH?????
At present I am reading “The Anglo-American Establishment” by Carroll Quigley & have been blown away by how a very small group of men could control major world events, simply by controlling things from “behind the scenes”!!
The best slaves are those who do not even REALIZE they are slaves because they think they are “free”!!! To date, the majority of people are not even open to the concept that we are not alone in the Universe, to say nothing of the “Hubrids”!
The practice of “shaming” seems to have kept the human race in toe….we want to ‘fit in’ to whichever group we aspire to….big “control” factor!!!
as for terra-forming:
if one is versed in European geography the highest mountain in the Vosges Mts. in France (Gran Ballon) in conjunction with the 2nd highest mountain in the Black Forest Mts. in Germany (Belchen) in conjunction with the highest mountain in the Swiss Jura (pre-cursor of the Alps)- I forget name of mountain- they form a perfect isosceles triangle almost down to less than a kilometer-
Larry in Germany
Is it possible that the spraying and all the rest of it could actually be a human attempt to make our planet less habitable for the interlopers?
A poison pill?
That’s why they bred the livestock in special places to ensure good quality.
You think the very top controllers stoop so low as to eat the rubbish available off the street, so to speak?
Dolan interviews producers of a recent abduction documentary.
I thought climate change was a symptom of what ever is happening to our solar system.
Anyway, I don’t think any of these ETs have any interest in us other than what they can do to us for their own agenda. Perhaps the push for ET related non-carbon energymeme is really about streamlining a global energy system. If so, it would fit my hypothesis that these ETs are intruders aiming to control, modify, streamline, and level out mankind. In other words, make us part of their hive for their own use. I don’t think I’d even call them ETs … maybe EDs … extra dimensionals.
Basta, my first response was also along Intel lines. The PTB have been pushing the ‘carbon tax’ by any possible means. Incorporating the ET meme may just be an attempt to sweep up those intelligent enough to realize “something’s afoot” into the carbon tax mindset, by association.
Oops, meant to be a reply to Basta, way below.
Hope it’s OK to come in again.
Ref Robert’s ‘the powers that be are acting out inhuman goals towards transhumanism, towards environmentally changing Earth’s biosphere, to point of basically exterminating life as ‘we’ know it.’
This seems likely, but it’s also clear that our cultures and cultural institutions are set up to select and place those least suited (those most likely to behave expediently or a lot worse in order to access power and wealth, and of minimal empathy and intuitive knowing) in leadership roles.
This in turn is a result of the manner in which we’re so deeply conditioned to think in terms not of what is right/for the greatest good in a given situation, but from the perspective of how individually we can get ahead in the short term in those power based hierarchies (almost every human organisation or group is of this form) we’re involved with.
We in essence almost always self interestedly calculate that we can do better if not by becoming king of the castle, then at least by staying on side with power – than we can by co-operating with others in what is for the greater (and our own) and longer term good.
Not only that we confuse power with wisdom, and as a consequence preferentially buy what we’re told by those in power. (if they got rich they must be smart – yet somehow this always ends up reinforcing the status quo)
This is in large part why the macro problems of our time have remained politically impossible to address – climate change, damage to ecosystems, population, health, energy, etc.
There are motivations other than power around which we could organise our societies (care for the other for example), but until we awaken and from the bottom up start to take back responsibility for ourselves, and commence doing what is right this is what we will get.
It seems clear from the literature and from multiple accounts of personal experiences that the off Earth players keeping an eye on what’s going on here (the term ET conjures up visions of little green men etc) understand the situation very well (our leaders may be dealing with the more self serving variety) – but cannot and will not intervene except by very subtle and non-overt means which don’t break the law of free will/non-interference.
The position is also confused by the fact that there’s many here on Earth hell bent for reasons to do with the above power/control, or for personal or organisational financial gain on senationalising, distorting and making fear inspiring the ET topic – but this seems very much to not be the reality.
There’s a strong sense coming through from most sources that our off Earth friends in fact are fervently hoping that we will wake up as above – that we’ll steady up, take back our power and collectively demand better from those in leadership roles.
It’s hard to overestimate just how deeply our outlook would change IF we were to be presented with proof that we in fact are among many very positively oriented races in the Cosmos, and close to the bottom of the ladder.
If nothing else it’d overnight overturn the power structures that maintain the elites.
It’s a catch 22 scenario however.
it seems unlikely however (all else being equal) to happen until we grow enough to be able to interact constructively with say a large scale visit without trying to attack, ally with or to turn into gods those that arrive and present openly.
It’s a free will reality, and it’s very likely our call…
Vajra, well said again. The alien & environment themes remind me of the SF movie The Arrival (1996) with Charlie Sheen. When I saw it in the theater, I remember thinking that this was a high-budget, well-thought-out movie (with really good special effects). Almost too much; like it had ‘unseen’ benefactors…
v, i can get into what you’re saying up to the point that it feels like another take on the version of lemmings behavior outlined decades ago by disney. what a surprise when you read up on disney’s history. those lemmings filmed were shoved off the cliff. the people you’re talking about here are doing what they can every day to live as well as we can. i’m doing my best at work to achieve whatever goal that is. i’m not scheming nor confusing wisdom and power. quite the opposite. i’m far more often waiting for those clients i serve and/or my coworkers and/or especially my bosses to figure out that what i’m advocating is almost uniformly the wisest path. i do not count me as the exception. how often have you and friends and pretty much everyone you know commiserated about work and how if it was up to you, you’d do this or that or —– oh well it’s above my pay grade. so while what you’re saying is a nicer version, it still feels like gaslighting and blaming the victims. the clearer wiser path is always simpler and well simpler. what works works. for good reason. what doesn’t takes alot more effort. the mess that we find ourselves in and ongoing takes way more effort – progressively more effort as it goes on.
Does The Squire Of Gothos ring a bell.
When The Parents are away, the Squire will play!
It’s probing time.
Trunk Monkey Alien Abduction Protection Feature
While I’m not buying the good doctor’s premise regarding ET’s and global warming, it’s encouraging to see academics referring to Dr. Jacobs work with “experiencers” of the E.T. abduction scenario. In fact, he has interviewed over 1,500 who’ve reported this experience, including those who’ve been selected to help the “hybrids” acclimate into a Human lifestyle.
My take from investigating the available material is this:
-Something real is going on
-It involves a Human/Hybrid breeding program
-The aliens warn Humans of the dangers of damaging Earth with our pollution and warring ways
-Experiencers are told they will be called upon in the future to perform certain crucial tasks, think “sleeper cells”
-Seems to me we’re moving closer to increased revelations of what the Fedgov knows about this topic. Tucker Carlson recently had Nick Pope on talking about the Fedgov renting warehouses where “foreign material” is stored, and they’ve been taking blood and DNA samples from experiencers who’ve had a close encounter.
That last part raises my spidey-sense that the Fedgov may be trying to identify the “hybrids” amongst us. I would point to Mark Zuckerberg of Fbook; he doesn’t seem quite “Human” to me!
“Mark Zuckerberg of Fbook; he doesn’t seem quite ‘Human’ to me!”
I have to say that I have exactly the same reaction, every time I see his photo. It comes from an instinctual level; not an intellectual judgment of his face or of his company. Something my ‘spirit’ is trying to tell me. I may have to meditate on him (carefully)…
add peter theil to that creep factor
And Elon Musk.
Our great forests are gone, water is increasingly polluted, fish stocks depleted to near extinction, algae blooms, aluminum falling from the sky, poisoned soil, our bodies accumulate foreign chemicals, the air kills us … and the beat goes on. We have allowed this because of the promise of progress and the belief that everyone will share (at least a little) a piece of that great money pie, while in actuality, the vast majority of wealth is concentrated in a handful of interests … yes … certainly aliens are responsible for otherwise, who is left to blame?
This sounds like a Chinese/Oxford version of the aborted Podesta/Clinton “disclosure”. Perhaps there are more tidbits in his book…
Prima facie evidence certainly; the powers that be are acting out inhuman goals towards transhumanism, towards environmentally changing Earth’s biosphere, to point of basically exterminating life as ‘we’ know it.
So, whether, they are being controlled by alien parasites; or, are just behaving as their parasite selves, the powers that be are not acting in the living Earth’s interest. Those interests, of course, should be our prima facie interests.
and anyone working in the living Earth’s interests is easily observed as such. the henry kissingers of the planet are easily observed for what their interests are whether alex jones gets a video of them dancing for moloch or not.
And of course, Comcast has been featuring The Day the Earth Stood Still in the free movies guide.
Oddly enough my wife and I are watching Babylon 5 reruns and are nearly through the 3rd season. The series is at least 25 years old now. As time passes it’s a strange series to watch. There is so much that is now “familiar” and yet “different”. Then, of course you move from the dialectic arc between the Vorlons and the Shadows to Sheridan’s alliance and the Third Way, from whence Sheridan begins his flirtation with the “dark” side of politics in the final series’ concluding chapters. What should be just entertainment and fun is becoming very familiar. It’s unsettling to think some of it is factually true in a parabolic way. It’s not coincident that TV executives call their shows “programming”.
OC, Babylon 5 has been on our over-the-air channels for the last few months. We have gone from a refusal-to-syndicate to broadcasting-it-to-the-masses. Interesting…
I have always been interested in B5 from the Deep Time aspect. How there has been a succession of different races/species, each age-cohort helping (with different definitions of ‘helping’) to keep an ‘assembly line’ of Younger races growing, before moving-on themselves.
It is a 13.8 billion-year-old universe. Our Solar System (and thus Earth) only came into existence around 3.5 billion years ago. Humans are Latecomers. (Unless we are ‘seeded’ from elsewhere.) Sooner or later, the universe will make itself evident (maybe including Elder races!) to us…
as ever g, i’m gonna say it’s what you said and more so. the only evidence you have that it’s only 13.8 billion years old is some junk science thought up by a guy stuck in a wheel chair who probably got the insights while getting favors from one of his many well documented trips to stripper bars. all his math points to his conclusions which btw are all non-observable phenomena and hence unprovable. and whenever doubted he just came up with more fiction to cover past fiction.
the chances that the electric universe folk are getting it right with observable scalable empirical evidence and observations at all scales tells me that 13.8 billion years and infinity are two very different numbers. and infinity fits the bill much better.
hawkings’ inspirations brings to mind an idea touched on in comments and in doc’s blog. tesla talked about how he got insights. sounded like he had seizures with flashes of light and all and saw the solutions he wanted on a fairly regular (not the right word) basis. have had similar experiences with lucid dreams. in fact most of what i learn seeems to come to me only with good sleep. (lots o research about how we process through dreams)
with that all in mind, it’s easy to picture our tech developed through and for us by giving us ideas that we think are our own. remember the mind controlled subjects who insisted their decisions were purely their own free will and free association even as they were shown that and how the thoughts were projected into their minds?
so it’s harder for me to imagine our tech development path as not be guided than that it is and has been. which takes me back to
and my childhood’s end paradox.
whether you view these guides as et’s, deities, older siblings, competitors, monsters, demons, angels, friends, whatever, it’s long past overdue for a reasonable accounting and reconciling of accounts as to what kinda job their doing. and so far it seems pretty clear that the friends that vajra talks about are not so friendly. even if they are, i want friendlier more ept, more kind, more careful friends. and i want them to be cool with me criticizing them as such.
btw, why didn’t hawking do a little insightful studying outside that little box of his about ALS and ketogenics? talk about suppressed technology with folk having to burn, bash and crush their way out of the box. people who are clearly angelically inspired. people like dom d’agostino, thomas seyfriend, stansislaw burzinsky, rhonda patrick, otto warburg, ……………………….
ZDB, you might be interested in Miles Mathis views on Hawking:
“They Finally Retire the Stephen Hawking Impostor”
Jim Stone has much the same take: (scroll down)
“A while back, Stephen Hawking seemed to change his ideologies. The Hawking on the left had the statement: ‘As for the universe, we know how it happened, but we do not know why it happened. To know that would be to know the mind of God.’
The Stephen on the right has no such outlook, and I really wonder how many people are being ‘kept alive’ for propaganda purposes… Hawking was supposed to have died years ago from his condition, HOW did he last so long anyway?”
My thoughts regarding Angels, Demons, God, Christ, and the more traditional “Aliens”, which, in the ancient past, have directly interacted/interbred with humanity, which means they might do so again in the present, are all Extra Terrestrials. Mankind has never been “alone” from their very beginning, are not alone today, and we have always known it, though most would deny it.
There may have been a time in the ancient past when mankind has attained interplanetary/intergalactic travel; we may have distant relatives out there among the stars; and we are a species with amnesia due to the many cataclysmic occurrences which have been discovered to be rather cyclic.
I believe these “others” come in many varieties ranging from “evil” to benevolent, though “evil” may be a rather subjective term. The rise in “sightings” as the coming cataclysm nears, indicates an interest by these beings in us and how we may prepare for it. Whether they will take an active part remains to be seen.
This view doesn’t seem to conflict with most “religions” which seem to stem from our interactions with them in the past. This is a personal view and I do not attempt to force it on other people, though I am willing to discuss it with anyone.
The fact that we have been “guided” in the past, and maybe even ” upgraded”, seems to be legitimate, from this point of view. But then, what do I really know, you have to take a great deal of this on “faith” and the available knowledge one has acquired during ones lifetime, limited as that may be.
One more thought, if “they” are, indeed, in contact with our “leaders”, they are in contact with the worst of humanity. One would have to wonder if they understand that.
WD, well said. I am looking forward to tapping into the ‘Akashic Records’ (assuming they are a true record-imprint of eternity) to find out just what-the-h3ll happened to humanity…
This guy may well be seeding a meme in support of some agenda, but it doesn’t mean there isn’t some substance to the perspective he’s pointing to.
It’s perhaps even the case that if we’re to grow we badly need to start to open to these realities, and to shed our knee jerk fear of that which lies outside of our mainstreamand so called informed view of the nature of our world.
We’re deeply conditioned to fear and hence to respond with hostility towards the ‘other’.
Perhaps this indirectly is another case of our being asked to let go of our rigid and highly restrictive and distorted beliefs about what is of value in our culture, and the world we live in. I posted a few days ago to the effect that maybe the Notre Dame fire was about this too.
Setting aside the ‘fluffier’ contributons to the whole ET deal it’s hard given a careful reading of the swathe of more credible material out there to not at least strongly suspect external involvement in the set-up, seeding and ongoing management of life on Earth – including ongoing adjustments to the genetics of all life here.
The problem is that most reject these possibilities out of hand without ever looking objectively at the evidence.
The sources vary widely in their modes of expression and spin, but there’s significant points of alignment between the accounts contained in the traditions of ancient cultures from all around the world, to the mainstream religions, to the non-ordinary experience reported in books by so many in recent times.
There does seem to have been some very significant negative interference in ancient times which knocked the project off path and played a large part in creating today’s humanity and wider reality – but by and large the ET deal acts to hold this in check, and seems to operate under clear rules (especially non-interference) and with benevolent intent.
If as has been said many times before by others they are out there, and their intention is negative then why didn’t they take over or destroy us long ago?
It seems not to be a case of our interest vs their interest – it’s a more holistic deal than that. As in a matter of helping humanity back on to path so that we don’t destroy ourselves, the ecosystem and/or the planet (even taking an anthropocentic view there’s many many generations to come that need it), and so that we don’t in due course end up becoming an enormous problem for many more species than just ourselves.
Should it come as a surprise either that not only the advent of nuclear power and weaponry but also the demonstrated readiness to use it has attracted the attention of those further afield?
The signs point strongly to our history being much longer and more complex than we’re taught – that there were extremely advanced civilisations back in pre-history, that there was ET involvement in an uplift capacity from long before then, and that the so-called stone age was just the result of our having destroyed what we had before. That wrongly motivated technological meddling of the sort we’re getting into again disrupted Earth energies and triggered the ‘flood’ and other catastrophic Earth changes.
ET is likely a misnomer, in that most of our visitors seem to come from other densities/realities – even those that appear physical. Many seem in their natural state not to be physical at all.
The reality seems in fact to be that much of the ET contact described in the literature occurs in non-ordinary states, and while no less real for this is not physical per se.
Seen through a more holistic and experiential lens it starts to feel that it’s not a matter of interference. Rather that this is the way the Cosmos operates, that there’s a layering of groups of beings from Source right down to here in the basement, each responsible for playing their part in its operation.
Not everybody is open to these possibilities. On the other hand if you can gain the confidence of an open minded person with experience of this sort (few speak out to even family members) it may set you thinking.
It’s in the end a catch 22 deal.
Beliefs determine perception, so if you’re sure there’s nothing real except that which goes clunk when you drop it then that’s what you’re going to get. i.e. your mind will actively select only those data points which prop up your particular belief system.
Which of course cuts both ways…
Vajra, also well said. It is interesting how most researchers are (semi) comfortable with ascribing ‘visits’ to ETs who are technologically-advanced but physical , but are frightened to deem them higher plane . In my studies, I consider both possibilities…
And yes, the ‘selectivity’ criteria you mentioned is important. That is probably why the fear-based conditioning has been applied to ETs, UFOs, and ‘angel’ sightings. (I even saw this conditioning first-hand. We were at an airport with my then-ladyfriend’s mother. Talk got into far-out realms. Then, the mother tilted her head to one side, went blank – literally – for around ten seconds, and restarted the conversation from scratch on a totally different subject. My ladyfriend noticed the mother’s ‘behavior’, too, and was disconcerted…)
Let’s not forget too Adamski’s assertion that our ‘betters’ (or space bros universal) are all communist and his lifelong communist teachings.
What if the aliens brought love and compassion instead of new technologies. That would change our ways and actions in how we treat each other and earth. Every decision made right now by our leaders always concerns money, their God. Why should people be concerned about climate change when most don’t even know how to appreciate nature, which is right in front of them.
sandy, isn’t love and compassion a new tech?
I heard that one ET emissary offered Eisenhower spiritual guidance and help with cleaning up the planet.
Another ET group offered weapons.
It was no contest.
I expect Ike’s thinking probably went something like this: “Spiritual guidance? But how do you kill people with that?”
My first impression to this one was a little unusual–even for me. Could Dr. Chi’s hypothesis represent the type of religious, historical, cultural and social synthesis one might expect from the Chinese intelligence community? After all, we see American and British variations of the same kind peppered throughout the alternative research community. Whether this one IS a reflection of synthesis from this source we would never know. At some point I do expect us in the West to encounter it. When it arrives the details would be quite revealing.
the sense i’m getting is that the planted assets show themselves as they attack whistleblowers and each other. their attacks differ depending on the nature of their target. robert david steele is case in point. his attacks on kevin annet are what one would think the committee of break away civvies would love. meanwhile rds seems a wee bit too protective of the likes of david wilcox.
For those of you who do not know the brilliant work of Susan Ferguson, her blog post today, http://metaphysicalmusing.com/blog/2019/05/06/refuge/ could not be a more apt continuation of this discussion. Antithetical to being “theologically illiterate”, here is a woman who taught herself Sanskrit, as she wasn’t satisfied with the translations that were out there for the Vedas — yes, ALL of them! She covers it all, from climate change/geoengineering to 5G to scalar technology to specific ET groups. And as she so aptly sums up along with the insights of E.M. Nicolay, they’re here terraforming the planet, changing the atmosphere for their self-preservation, not ours.
This might have more credibility if it was reported by Tricia Takanawa from Family Guy fame.
When considering meme magic, there is the two-legged definition of Cyning: Blood and wit.
A. Intermarriage between clans produces a tribal Cyning, who is bound by blood.
B. No one can be Cyning, who has not passed the IQ-test, drawing sword from stone.
IQ-test for kings: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/g98rxxxdwzy40jv/iq-test.pdf
Point is, that anyone, making memetic claims, should be held accountable, by taking the IQ-test for kings.
Well Oxbridge is rife with intelligence assets so indeed you just can’t take these sorts of professorial pronouncements that hit the news at face value, they’re almost invariably agenda-driven meme-seeding.
That said, invisible ETs that are hybridizing with humans and causing climate change is an interesting mash-up to say the least, way out from left field, that one.
And invisible ETs sure sounds like what religions would name demons or jinn. Who knew they were driving climate change all along? One wonders if the Supreme Being is aware of this?
Basta, I believe you and I were walking down a similar path. This one has me asking similar questions regarding intelligence assets and memes.