German Kaiser's heir wants seized artifacts back

THINGS (OR RATHER PEOPLE) THAT MAKE YOU GO “HMMM…”: ...

Well, this is a bit of a "fun" story, or is it? I don't know, which is why I'm filing this one under the "you tell me" category. As Angela Merkel continues to shake both herself and her government apart, there's been some rather odd "symbolic goings on" in that country. A few days ago I blogged about the intriguing story that Germany has completely rebuilt the facade of the old kaiserlicher Staatsschloss on Unter den Linden in Berlin. The building had, as its name implies, been the official state residence of the Kaisers until Wilhelm II's abdication, but it was maintained until after the Second World War when the Communists - who else? - demolished it in an effort that would make Confederate statue destroyers envious, for in its place a monstrosity of a modernist architectural box was built. Well, the box itself has been demolished, and in its place has risen the facade of the old Staatsschloss. Of course, the inside of the building is not restored. Wilhelm II's tastes were decidedly "not modernist" and ran to the Baroque (oddly enough) both in art and music, and restoring the interior of the old Kaiserschloss would have been prohibitively expensive. But that, apparently, was not the point. Rather, as I pointed out in my blog about the story, the palace was rebuilt so that the post-war modernist constructions of Berlin would have to "compete" (their word, not mine) with something much more pleasant to look at. The implication of the remarks about the project was "expect more to come." But it is odd from a purely symbolic point of view, and we'll get back to that in a moment, for the rebuilding of the Staatsschloss in the old government quarter of Berlin could be taken as symbolic of much more than mere nostalgia.

As I also pointed out in that blog, a Germany navy drill team was videoed in Ottawa, Canada, performing in plain view (and for all to see) what appeared to be the old "parade step", which we know of course as the goosestep. I was floored, because it was the first time, as far as I could tell, than any unit of the post-reunification and post-war Bundeswehr had done that. Ever. Needless to say, I was deluged by a swarm of emails and angry comments that what  the drill team had done was not, really, the old "parade step". The comments basically amounted to the fact that the "kick" was not the full high-stepping kick of the Imperial Army, the inter-war Reichsheer, or the Wehrmacht; it was "off" by "several inches." The pettifoggery of the comments missed my main point, which was entirely symbolic; an "implicit taboo" had been broken, and something very much like the parade step had been done in full view for the attending Canadians to enjoy (which, apparently, they did). The symbolism of the act, viewed from the standpoint of rebuilding the old state imperial palace, was, I argued, not coincidental.

Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not one of those who thinks parade-stepping and carrying bell trees is a bad thing; it's a Prussian-German - indeed royal and imperial - military tradition, not a Nazi one. Not doing so is rather like the British military not using bagpipes; it's somehow just "off". It's the meaning of the return to these symbols and traditions, however, that is open to interpretation; just what does all this mean, particularly in a Europe overrun with "refugees" (thank you Angela Merkel), and virtually every country in Europe expressing some form of backlash against the multi-cultural dictats of the rootless cosmopolitans in Brussels.

So with that in mind, J.P. spotted this interesting article about what the old imperial and royal house of Prussia, the Von Hohenzollerns, have been up to lately:

German Kaiser's heir wants seized artifacts back

Other than the eerie resemblance of H.R.H. Georg Friedrich Ferdinand to his great-great grandfather Kaiser Wilhelm II, the story itself is worth noting:

The Culture Ministry confirmed Friday that the Hohenzollern family has been negotiating with the federal government and the eastern states of Berlin and Brandenburg "for several years" — and apparently in secret.

According to Der Spiegel news magazine, the aristocrats are seeking to reclaim tens of thousands of valuable paintings, sculptures, coins, books and furniture, as well as the right to live at one of several grand estates.

But an agreement may be a long way off. Monika Grütters, the government's commissioner for culture, said, "the positions of the negotiating parties are still very far apart." (Boldface and italicized emphasis added)

Stop and ponder that in the context of the revival of other symbolisms and traditions, and imagine the significance of a return of the House of Hohenzollern to residence in any of its former estates. In effect, it appears as if the Hohenzollerns might be  requesting some sort of de facto recognition of the House's status as the royal house of a united Germany via a symbolic act, in this case precisely by returning to residence in one of the old royal and imperial estates. That may seem far-fetched, but the symbolism of the naval unit in Ottawa springs to mind here again: the unit began their drill by literally marching backwards to the tune of the old military march "Prussia's Glory", and then began its quasi-parade-step forward, as if to symbolize "we're moving back to our cultural tradition in order to move forward." Indeed, by seeking return of art works and furniture, one wonders if the covert goal is eventually to outfit that rebuilt Staatsschloss with some of its original appointments, and if in fact it's all in long-term preparation for a return of the Hohenzollerns to residence in that structure. Admittedly, that is very far-fetched. But in today's crazy world, why not? You heard it here first.

And now that I've crawled to the very end of the twig of high octane speculation, I might was well step off the twig altogether: in today's Europe, with Frenchmen, Dutch, Austrians, Poles, Hungarians, Danes, Swedes, Italians, Spaniards and British protesting the decay of their cultural and national identities at the hands of Mr. Globaloney and his technocratic rootless cosmopolitan lackeys, one wonders whether or not we're looking at a longing to return to the status quo ante Brussels, and indeed, status quo ante bellum prima. In Germany's case, it might even resolve some thorny outstanding issues of international law.

If that's the case, then are we looking at a pattern unfolding behind the scenes? Perhaps, but if so, then one has to watch not just the Hohenzollerns, but the Savoys, the Hapsburgs, the Wittelsbachs, the Bourbons, and - dare I say it? - the Bonapartes(and yes, they're still around, the current head of the House just conveniently happening to have a Bourbon mother). And lest I forget, while we're on this "return-to-the-royals" theme, don't forget that a few years ago the Russians were discussing a return of the Romanovs.

In any case, the symbolisms are there, and in Germany's case, we now have not just two symbolic tea leaves to read, but three, and there's an old adage here that might be appropriate to ponder: one is a fact, two is coincidence, and three begins to approach deliberateness.

OK... I'm done. Now you can call me crazy.

See you on the flip side...

Bundeswehr Guard at Kaiser Wilhelm II's tomb in the Netherlands

45 thoughts on “ THINGS (OR RATHER PEOPLE) THAT MAKE YOU GO “HMMM…”: ...”

  1. Not one to add a flash point to your “high octane speculations” or concerns about Germans Being Germans, but one doesn’t find it “off” at all. Just how many times can Deutsche Jugend iterate that they are sorry, sorry, sorry, about what some madmen and a manipulated ignorant population of their early homeland instigated nearly a century ago. That there’s a piece of art once again in place of an institutionalized gulag of bricks is a good thing, too. The masons were nearly always known for their interesting constructions and the effects it has on the locals as well as would be tourists paying a visit remain lasting memories. It’s also another way to preserve a heritage or two in plain sight while conveying a few messages for the initiate.

    But, nahh! You’re no crazier than the rest who’ve stumbled upon interesting tid-bits every now and then as information gets around a little easier these days. Think of it more like a refurbishing of what used to work well, less the mistakes gone awry, in order to maintain the blood lines. More talk of the 13 bloodlines of control, as some purport, one might need to check twice or thrice. It’s usually quite windy out on the fringes unless one has the agility and grip of a lemur moving between tree branches.

  2. and the successor of Juncker as EU President will be Ursulavon der Leyen, born as von Albrecht. Von Albrecht is also from the royal bloodlines.

  3. In cultural matters, symbolism goes hand-in-hand with ritual. There is ritual as well as symbolism here.

    The Germans’ recreation of the facade of the old Berliner Stadtschloss harks back to the reconstruction of German cities bombed during WWII. In the post-war years, there was significant continuity of NAZI urban planners still working across West Germany. They wanted to use the “opportunity,” which the Allies had foisted on them, to modernize cities for motor traffic, parking (and political rallies!); but there was strong popular resistance, which was usually successful.

    Although new arterial road systems were built in a few places, like Dusseldorf, many communities opted to re-build replicas of what had been, including narrow, winding mediaeval street patterns. Nuremberg is a good example of this: the concrete NAZI temples defied destruction and demolition, and the old town (birthplace of Albert Speer!) has been recreated in all its chocolate-box charm — a process which did not finish until 1984.

    It has been a century since Versailles, and seventy-four years since The Potsdam Conference. Are the German people simply moving to own their culture again? Or is there more to it? Like Brexit for the British, recreation of the old Berliner Stadtschloss is both symbol and ritual. A new start for a new age.

    1. So paradoxically East Germany with its huge triumphal avenues could be seen as the town planning heir of the Nazis, with the odd statue of Marx, Engels and Lenin to justify their “democratic” nature..

  4. It’s interesting that the Europeans want to return to their past. They who have destroyed other people past in the name of the house of Abraham who are the masters of Europe really.

  5. With all due respect to you, Goshawks, I’m not disagreeing. Please note my tone carefully.

    Problem? Reaction? Solution? Seriously? Let’s define the situation in clear, unambiguous English. They are all bastards by every definition of the word. It is time we be the adults in the room, agree to disagree with each other across a broad spectrum of faith commitments and stand together in rejecting their authority and claims to sovereignty as baseless, formless, meaningless and insignificant. “Social engineering” and “technocratic control” only works when people are committed to its usage. The human race has this built in capacity to wake up spiritually and see through this type of bastardly behavior and to respond appropriately without prompting. Of this tendency these bastards are very much aware. They fear it and use divide and conquer to prevent it. We need to be the adults and not allow divide and conquer to prevail. We may just see how quickly Mr. Dark and his Darklings fade when the laughter starts–and once it starts, it’s bound to spread quickly. Fear only works when humor is silent and people feel alone, isolated. Once a group finds its voice and sees the comedy embedded in their gesticulations, humor ascends and fear evaporates. Learn to see the comedy in every one of their attempts, and to laugh appropriately.

    1. OC, I take it you’d rather have them not living in their old (or rebuilt) palaces. I admit I am creeped out by the idea of these disneyfied attempts to return to old ways. Is this gonna go like the living history farms we see in the USSA? Seen a couple Amish farmers try something similar to fleece the rubes driving through.

      Not sure why but I’m flashing back to “Les Visitors”
      https://www.amazon.com/Visitors-Christian-Clavier/dp/B00005NB9Z/ref=pd_sbs_74_1/137-3413611-3228847?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00005NB9Z&pd_rd_r=f89c6a45-a849-11e9-af57-6d67ff94472b&pd_rd_w=IbxRn&pd_rd_wg=SSeHe&pf_rd_p=588939de-d3f8-42f1-a3d8-d556eae5797d&pf_rd_r=H3E2H3VHRNBY7FPKTM97&psc=1&refRID=H3E2H3VHRNBY7FPKTM97

      I do think Goshawks is close enough on prediction to use of this idea somehow in problem/reaction/solution exploit. Just as today we’re seeing extremists of all types gathering in USSA. Amazing how many of those extremists are belligerent beyond any even partially sane perspective in what can only work out to be a provocateur’s goals. And then you find out they’re really just provocateurs and extremists in the opposite direction than what they posed as. Like finding out a white nationalist is a closet Zionist.

      BTW, I do agree with the sense of humor aspect. Perhaps my choice of movie above helps?

      1. Also BTW, please be sure, I expect these transitions will happen but not so much with symbolic permissions of some bureaucrats. It will happen because wealthy powerful oligarchs will exert their wills and make it happen. Which will aggravate a whole bunch of Rockhead paid Communists and help them to recruit knuckleheads.

        1. ZDB, we agree that they may very well succeed with their Hegelian tripartite pogroms against the human race. Both sides use the black magic of social engineering in order to impose their vision of order over us. Once the illusion is gone and the magic is recognized, the spell ends.

          Sometimes we must do the right thing because we are here for such a moment to watch and pray. For what it’s worth, here is an excerpt of mine framed within a Christian context: “FATHER, please give them a change of heart. Help them to see the errors in their thoughts and plans. Help them to see the consequences of their ways. Restore within them the missing parts of compassion, love and mercy for those around them. Please forgive them for what they do. They do not understand, nor see the real danger in attempting such things. And, FATHER, place within me a changed heart that I might see joy in how you achieve this, so that I may laugh and be glad.” I would not want you offended in this, but would ask you to stand beside me in silence as we face these evils together. We don’t have to share the same world-view and can benefit from each other’s scholarship and insight. We may not always agree on the predictions of the evidence, but we can be members of the same team. We still have choices. Let’s make the best of them together. We all benefit from being within a community of adults. Given time and grace even bastards can grow up–and feel free to define grace however you see fit.

          1. OC, thank you. Not sure of the accuracy of this quote. I think it pertains. “Father forgive them. They know not what they do.” To be clear here, I’m heartened and agree with you. I’m noting what I call the Richard Pryor challenge: how to best express the worst of problems (and hence the solution) in the most accurate and humorous manner. In terms of bastards, it feels like they’re most likely to turn things around sometimes. My challenge here is how to view life in a way that a guy raised in a whore house / pool hall like Pryor would view it and turn it around for the rest of us.

            To be sure, I prefer that these would be kings do not get emboldened. My efforts are at predictive skills. Just like I see the odds of Trump’s re-election in 2020 being just about rising to 99% lately. That’s not my desire. It’s a perception. Any skills any one can impart that help me bring my perceptions closer to my desires are appreciated.

            Meanwhile, I just ran across this today. Seems Brendon O’Connell is getting through to some media who in turn might get through to some more of the public.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPNDaWJgzho
            United Zionist Cyber Command: Congress Forges US-Israel Alliance in Direct Energy Space Weapons

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            OC, thank you. Not sure of the accuracy of this quote. I think it pertains. “Father forgive them. They know not what they do.” To be clear here, I’m heartened and agree with you. I’m noting what I call the Richard Pryor challenge: how to best express the worst of problems (and hence the solution) in the most accurate and humorous manner. In terms of bastards, it feels like they’re most likely to turn things around sometimes. My challenge here is how to view life in a way that a guy raised in a whore house / pool hall like Pryor would view it and turn it around for the rest of us.

          3. OC, thank you. Not sure of the accuracy of this quote. I think it pertains. “Father forgive them. They know not what they do.” To be clear here, I’m heartened and agree with you. I’m noting what I call the Richard Pryor challenge: how to best express the worst of problems (and hence the solution) in the most accurate and humorous manner. In terms of bas$$$$$tards, it feels like they’re most likely to turn things around sometimes. My challenge here is how to view life in a way that a guy raised in a wh000000ore house / pool hall like Pryor would view it and turn it around for the rest of us.

          4. To be sure, I prefer that these would be kings do not get emboldened. My efforts are at predictive skills. Just like I see the odds of Trump’s re-election in 2020 being just about rising to 99% lately. That’s not a desire. It’s a perception. Any skills any one can impart that help me bring my perceptions closer to my desires are appreciated.

            Meanwhile, I just ran across this today. Seems Brendon O’Connell is getting through to some media who in turn might get through to some more of the public.

            www dot youtube dot com/watch?v=LPNDaWJgzho
            United Zionist Cyber Command: Congress Forges US-Israel Alliance in Direct Energy Space Weapons

      2. The Cherokee within me says, “whether they get them or not really isn’t important. I am afraid if they are returned they will become emboldened, and return to the life-styles, will to power and dreams of empire they once had with more horrific consequence. They fail to understand this land was never theirs. It belongs to the Creator, and it will be His even when the memories of their possession are long forgotten. Those would be kings are worse than their subjects: they are slaves to their darkness. Our people may not live to see them fall, but they will fall. Great will be their fall! For us there is room for hope.”

    2. OrigensChild, I read your comment, then went back and re-read my comment, and then read your comment again. I am truly not sure where they overlap. Remain empowered? Sure. Use laughter/comedy against them? Sure.

      I am more of a “We strive against Principalities and Powers” mindset. The PTB are not just greedy, self-serving, psychopathic humans. There is a metaphysical/spiritual element beneath/within/above them. The PTB are only middlemen, so to speak. One can see that in the laying-out of centuries-long or thousand-year programs. No human has that kind of attention span, or sustained effort. (And that is neglecting embedded ‘aliens’…)

      When I speak of some Problem->Reaction->Solution long-range plan, I see it in terms of the above. If we stay in human terms, we are being out-maneuvered. It is necessary to fight ‘on the ground’ (self-empowerment, humor, etc.). However, it is also necessary to know whom we are really fighting. And prepare accordingly. Otherwise, we may win tactical battles but lose sight of the strategic plans, and lose the ‘war’…

      1. I completely agree with you and OC about the humor. I also agree that, unless the multidimensional aspects of humanity’s predicament are embraced, it will never be properly understood or resolved. The problem is the satanic. The solution is to understand and address that.

      2. Goshawks, I totally agree this is a huge spiritual problem both of these groups have in common. My original post was much larger, and I whittled it down to just the introduction. I do not want to tax everyone’s forbearance and patience. As a Christian here I try to keep things less faith based, but this one is indeed one where people of faith, whether from a Christian tradition or non-Christian one, can agree to share the burden together using parallel methods as a team. We really should pray for all of these people for a change of heart. This not only cleanses our souls, but it echoes the mind and heart of GOD for the same goal. Since my GOD is defined in very precise Johannine language fully developed, these prayers do make a difference–within us and them. This way, when we laugh, we laugh not only at their paltry efforts to exert their authority over what does not belong to them, we also laugh at ourselves for getting so worked up over things so foolish. All decisions regarding any persons conditions expressed in an epithet that is deserved are provisional. It starts with a change of heart. They cannot really be free until they, as you say, are liberated from the darkness in which they dwell. Indeed, Goshawks, you and I are on the same page. My original post is now lost, but if it were available I would send it to you privately so you would see my complete thoughts on the matter. The trail can be reconstructed if you wish.

        1. OC, I speak for me and suspect a few here agree. Please do reconstruct away and tax our forbearance like a wildman. Pretty sure we got eyes to see and ears to hear.

        2. In an high-octane speculation arena; disagreements abound – all the more to ponder.
          Disagreements, at times, sharpen focus.
          If everyone’s agreeing; something’s wrong.

        3. OC, thanks. It’s like one of those Venn Diagrams. I suspect we have large overlaps, as well as some individuality. This is as it should be. I would be totally bored with a massive overlap. And I suspect most Gizars are of this ilk. (And post away; just not too much Bible quotations, please.)

          Foglamp, I agree. I tend to shy away from the use of the word ‘satanic’ because it has so much baggage from previous times. Various churches have used ‘satanic’ every time independent-thinkers threatened the status-quo. Copernicus. Galileo. Cathars. As an example, the underlying religion taught to Grasshopper from the “Kung Fu” TV series would have been viewed as satanic, not to mention the underlying philosophy within “Wax on, Wax off.” Non-satanic, even profound, in my humble view…

          Currently, because I believe humanity was once much more , I just stay with good-guys and bad-guys (wherever they are in metaphysical/spiritual levels). Good-guys are those who try to raise humanity’s consciousness-level. Bad-guys are those who try to lower humanity’s consciousness-level, or maintain it at its present, artificially-low state. (And if needed to be said, “guys” as-used is a neutral term for compactness. There are good-gals and bad-gals, and good-things and bad-things.)

      3. The bulk of that piece was split up in various responses to the original post. The one key ingredient that is missing is the use of the term “bastard” itself. Christ himself used epithets against others when these represented aspects of a pathology they possessed spiritually. His use of the epithet only applied for the duration of the pathology’s control over the person. Expressed within a Christian framework the role of repentance and “turning” is the consequence of a personal decision, from which the person receives a changed “heart”. From this transition the person can now become a member of a larger community usually defined in the context of a large, extended family. Many of you know this.

        An agnostic friend, of whom ZDB has on many occasions reminded me, a dear friend who is now deceased, found we had many things in common at the bed-rock of ideas once faith-claims and language was deconstructed. He, too, believed that prayer was effective because he, too, believed that there was information embedded within the fabric of space time, and that through prayer, intention was injected into that field in order to effect change. I prayed, he meditated, but when we did this together for the same reason, the objective was usually consistent and coherent. No matter the result, and the language is used to express the thought, a change of heart is a worthwhile thing to pray on behalf of these people. Though these people might very well decide against that change, the prayer’s intention itself provides benefits to those pray (or meditate). Just because he was agnostic did not mean he was not spiritual. Agnostic he may be, yet he knew there was something else beside the “material” that shaped the material in some way. The man had his mystical side, but he always declared himself to be an atheist. (We used to tease each other by my calling him “a closet pantheistic deist” and he “an agnostic in training”. Boy, do I miss him!) These shared experience drew us together more tightly as members of a small community. He was my very best friend. Much of this type of activity helped us both face the traumas and challenges of 9-1-1 together.

        1. OC, thanks for the heartwarming comment. I am glad you had your friend (and he you). Seeing the ‘unity’ under the perceived separateness is part of the journey. And sincere prayer/meditation/’sending’/etc. definitely works. I have had many ‘responses’, including some that were way above my imagination. Also, they seem to have the best ‘resolution’ when all parties – good, bad, ugly, and beautiful – are included in the request. God seems to like ‘resolutions’ which benefit all participants.

          (And since I have run across different ghost-types during my time, keep an eye out for your friend. He may dip-down and ‘visit’ occasionally…)

        2. Thank you OC. That guy was formative. He changed you and you him. Prayer, meditation, whatever do that too. That’s how I agree with you. If nothing else it’s part of the Richard Pryor / Tesla paradigm. (I don’t know if it was Tesla but I’d rather attribute it to him than Einstein like everyone else does.) The idea is that a problem is only a problem until looked at from a different perspective until the solution is obvious.

          The idea I’m including here is Pryor’s description of humor which I think is parallel. Humor is funny in proportion to the degree it lets everyone openly consider a problem previously so horrific that no one feels safe acknowledging it let alone resolving it.

          I think these two are the same. You didn’t ask but I already like your friend and feel more comfortable stating: I’m not agnostic, atheist nor religious – openly. I am interested. I am willing. I want to know what everyone believes and how well it works. In that process, I’ve become more and more determined to never let anyone know my beliefs – or at least my dogma. I throw a bunch of ideas out to help me clarify the ideas for me. And to see how they work. And to get them properly chewed by folk with more and better teeth than me.

          My latest rants about AI tending toward goodness are a case in point. I want to believe that Math in all ways in all matters at all times leads us all eventually (some much slower than others) toward goodness. It’s the meantime that’s the dangerous part. Where to go and what to do in the meantime while stupid is as stupid does. I think Chief Joseph, Crazy Horse and all those guys who were allegedly (see Miles Mathis on Custer – thank you Goshhawks) at Little Bighorn thought along similar lines.

          To be sure I am reconsidering that paradigm. Ignaz Semmelweis had similar problems to consider when he realized that he and all the surgeons were killing upwards of 80% of their patients by not washing their hands. He suffered. So did native Americans. Why? Not because their innovative beliefs were wrong. But because they failed to see the significance of what they had learned and others had not.

          1. A big part of how I feel about your friend, you, everyone here is that I think we’re all working on what you described as prayer. It isn’t just prayer, nor meditation nor whatever. It’s every think. Every conversation. Every thought. Every note. Everything. It goes to intent. It goes to clarity. We’re not just having these conversations because the topics are nipping at us all day in media outlets clearly intended to take chunks out of our lives destructively. We’re all working at clarifying and getting a better more actionable bead on life, the universe, everything. BTW, the answer is 42.

            We’re all doing that all the time in every way. Where we find we can’t abide someone is when we feel their effort in the opposite direction. Just like Gosh talks about getting a bad feeling around some entity (live or not)? It takes way more effort to be evil than to just tend toward goodness.

            So these prayers, conversations, meditations, whatever – that we’re having and that you and that friend had (and have) – are definitely sending intent, a message and whatever powers into reality. Wish I had a clue here.

            What I can know much more about is that the clarity provided is invaluable. That clarity flows both ways and in all ways immediately.
            It’s why I’m still here even knowing that some govt troll somewhere is probably charged with eavesdropping and perhaps messing with me and if nothing else cataloguing my subversive thoughts.

            Along those lines, I heard a headline last month about the Counter Intel Staff who were charged with countering conspiracy theorists (forget if it was online or in person in captivity) were having problems. Government stated that initially the staff just hated the task. Later they had bigger problems as they consistently converted to the belief of their charges.

            This is called being alive. It’s everywhere all the time. Even with all the greatest efforts to subvert us. Even when our efforts to grow aren’t that great. I think Begley is a bit weak by refusing to call fraud what it is: fraud.
            https://www.crossfit.com/health/dr-glenn-begley-ddc-lecture

            Unlike Petre Gotzsche.
            https://www.crossfit.com/health/dr-peter-gotzsche

            Thank you for the note on your friend. I’ll work on a better term than reverse agnosticism. It was my honor and pleasure reading it.

  6. I’ll bet there are lawyers happy to be paid to peruse Prussian parchments on behalf of the Hohenzollern claimants. Just the other say I saw this article on the 15 wealthiest families in 1913 Germany.
    https://www.manager-magazin.de/unternehmen/artikel/die-reichsten-deutschen-altes-geld-a-1128904.html
    The list is very interesting: the Hohenzollerns are at N. 8, just below Thurn und Taxis and just above Hohenlohe. Most of the other names on the list will be familliar and they or their heirs are still around.
    In the past century or two, with reigning families, a certain amount of property has tended (lawyers will wrangle here) to be absorbed by the State. Wealthy but non-reigning families might not have this problem, though details like border changes or 40 years of communist occupation can get in the way.
    The essence of this blog is whether, perhaps through some favourable legal decisions, the Hohenzollerns could regain title to property or other valuable items. Entitlement to reside in a palace or castle in Brandenburg, even without outright ownership, would be highly symbolic (though I would personally be quite happy with Burg Hohenzollern thank you very much).
    There are lots of questions.. Would such “restitution” signify an affirmation of the family as the heirs to the former Kaiserreich, or simply as owners of properties in the former Prussia? And how far would this process extend?
    Would the justifications of such “restitutions” depend on whether Kohl “reunified” Germany, or whether he simply annexed a juridically independent entity, the DDR?
    Anyway this is a dicey business and descendants of other Germany dynasties have done well to “lay low”. And I’m sure they are well aware in those parts that another German dynasty, the Windsors, would probably not be above a bit of quiet infighting to restore “royal” influence to Germany.

  7. But this is nothing at all new; a post-reunification property restitution board was set up exactly to adjudicate the massive unresolved issue of confiscated property in the former East early on, and of course was very contentious and often in the news as numerous aristocratic families attempted to reclaim estates and valuables.

    The only thing unusual here is that these claims are still being moderated so long after reunification, and that the family is the Hohenzollerns, which obviously explains the secrecy. Notice also where the properties are located — in “the eastern states of Berlin and Brandenburg” — the former East.

  8. The globalized culture destruction slogan:
    “Expect more to come.”

    Reading further I see they want a return to “their” culture; albeit, perhaps a Kings, Queens & Aristocratic one; while, the other 99% of the population can return to their feudal peasantry selves/slavery.
    Back to the future: Globalized 21st Century electronic surveillance feudalism w/the cultural style of the good old days.

  9. When I read the original article (before I saw the blog) I thought “watch out, there’re back” so I think it is likely that giving back the Estates (if it happens) would signal a potential return to a “constitutional” monarchy if the Elites think the public would be easier to manage that way (and go along with it).

    I’ve expected a return of a “Tsar” in Russia for a least a decade now the only question being “whose dynasty” an old Romanov or Putin’s family – either would be kind of traditional (old house and/or new dynasty).

  10. Pomum Imperiale is a high hanging tree fruit, beyond American reach – by bombing raids.
    https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-27619-9_13

    Reichsapfel & Zauberspross have Druidic origin. Last Runic verse speaks of “fodres onfaldan” (normalized: “foddres onfealdan”), meaning sheath’s unfold, ie. the drawing of sword (ie. the royal IQ-test).

    Underneath the facade of the so-called holy roman empire, we do find competing reference, to the original Runic symbols of Camelot, defining rightful ruler in Europe.

    1. Uh, my husband does his own translations from the Old Norse and has written books on rune studies – while the Celts and Germanic people lived side by side for at least nearly two thousand years (and have a lot of cultural cross-over especially in Germany) I have never heard of “The Runic Symbols of Camelot.”

      In fact, last I checked, no one even knows for certain where Camelot was and despite Ogham being called “Celtic Runes” no one today really knows how to read or understand them (there are a number of invented systems which try) though they probably were an alphabet and divination system similar to the Norse Runes (which were also an alphabet or divination system).

      I would really appreciate more information on this “Runic/Camelot” connection, because again, I have simply never heard of it and it sounds interesting.

      Melodi in Ireland

      1. Thank you, Melodi. I am pleased you and anakephalaiosis brought forth the topic of runes. Runes as a semiotics of a divination technology are of particular interest to me. I’ve been working on a technological countermeasure/secondary response to A.I., 5G, and entropic non-ionizing radiation. It is intended to work as a transceiver of life-force energy specifically tuned to transmute harmful wave forms into beneficial, life-affirming frequencies.. It is astonishing how similar the 16 runes of Younger Futhark as a symbolic apparatus of spiritual prognostication is to the algorithmic system of hyper-dimensional probability employed in quantum computing. Younger Futhark runes, sometimes separated into two versions, the ‘long branch’ and the ‘short twig’ runes, remind me of what we are attempting to achieve here–interpreting the world around us in order to better inform our conscious intention. Interestingly enough, Dr. Farrell often refers to his exceptional hypotheses as points somewhere on the ‘twig of speculation’. It seems to me our ‘speculations’ are most compelling when we ‘crawl to the end of the twig’ and fall off into the omniscience of Providence. This type prophesy can only be attained by Divinely inspired human Beings, and stands as a palisade against the tyranny of A.I. As you pointed out, it seems runes were the tools (twigs) of speculation of some of our ancestors, and I believe that runic system was every (q)bit as efficacious as the newest state-of-the-art D-Wave quantum computer. The yearning for past traditions, symbols, architecture, etc. seems to me to be a survival response to the blitzkrieg of annihilation of the very things that inform us, much like sequences runic symbols, of what is sacred.

        1. Druidic Runes define Cyning, who originally was an executioner at assembly. Bloodwrack was mandatory duty of son, and had to be restrained by Druidic circles.

          American embassies in Europe are Roman fortifications in bulletproof glass, that provide Skull and Bones’ boot print on European faces.

          Bloodwrack was performed in Iceland during American occupation. It has no expiration date. It is considered an act of God.

          https://www.lpthe.jussieu.fr/~roehner/oci.pdf

  11. People have a psychological need to identify with something . Very few of us have the strength to just exist in a vacuum. (Indeed, George Ivanovich Gurdjieff had to craft classes to shake people out of their self-imposed shells.) Most often, we identify with nations, religions, cultures, etc. The Brussels boys want some kind of hom0genized (caught that ‘mod’ item; hah!) European with no roots. Ain’t gonna happen, and that is one underlying reason for the push-back.

    The three items which Joseph mentions are kind of a ‘stealth’ revival of German culture. Note: Deutschland culture, not Nationalsozialismus culture. The ‘invasion’ of a very different culture has sparked or speeded-up this revival. The same across Europe.

    Given that the PTB are not dumb, they had to have foreseen this push-back. Yet, they went ahead with their plans. Either they are arrogant beyond measure, or the push-back is to be used in some Problem->Reaction->Solution long-range plan. While the first is true, I lean towards the latter…

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