...Hong Kong might be the end of the road for China's Silk Road project. Joseph comments on the Hong King protests and offers some high octane speculation...

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. zendogbreath on August 18, 2019 at 5:29 pm

    Feels like you are right Doc about China’s and Russia’s reps and how they go here – except – for how much they are worried about losing good guy rep and political / moral capital. That goes for all other countries too.

    These items come under the heading of public opinion. Clearly the likes of Putin and any leader for that matter manage public opinion and manufacture consent where and when they desire.

    I remember similar in ’89 too when pundits claimed it would be problematic for US pols. If memory and archives are not as pooched as most search engines are –
    then I remember Scowcroft being sent straight away to Beijing where he reassured PRC that the US considered the incident and internal matter. I think publicly the US declared a military boycott on PRC. Given that most of the MIC exports to PRC were tech and bordering on espionage, my guess is this just drove the price up and the public profile underground.

    • zendogbreath on August 18, 2019 at 5:36 pm

      I imagine a better world for all of us. My bet is that PLA descends fast and hard using all the new tech they have as well as the new law that lets them extradite to their heartlessness’ content. Any issues raised about belt and road progress will be cosmetic and for public consumption.

      BTW, curious about the protesters American flags and anthem singing. Dya think they used their phones to get the lyrics and tune? Where did those flags come from too? What would people here think if someone protested US govt singing another country’s anthem and waving their flags? Does that smell of outside see eye A interference much?

      When looking at all the timeline, acts and reactions of the protesters and government, it looks more and more like a set up that justifies a hard take down of HK. Who could, should or would stop them? How? Why?

  2. Robert Barricklow on August 15, 2019 at 4:59 pm

  3. Robert Barricklow on August 15, 2019 at 3:58 pm

    Three stellar economists blend in this article about China:
    [Ellen Brown/Michael Hudson/F. William Engdahl.]
    “Neoliberalism Has Met Its Match In China.”

    simply go to:

    This above article shows the economies for what they are; & consequently, the western system of finance doesn’t want you to realize what that difference is.

  4. Waterbug on August 15, 2019 at 2:25 pm

    China Coin Ready – Announced by government August 10, 2015. They claim it’s been in the making 5 years; BS! Could this be due to Hong Kong protests?

    Peoples Bank of China, PBOC a government crypto.
    25,735 views – Published August 13, 2015
    “Red Commie Coin Ready” to track their people along with existing Social Credits
    HSBC is privately held, and reportedly, through a series of schemes that began when it did (1600’s?…very few do “long-term planning” like “China”, lol) and completed in early 2013, it had majority ownership of EVERY bank on the planet…that was all revealed in 2013 along with the Pope withdrawing all previously granted immunities…so HSBC has had a lot of “piggy banks” to use in order to prop, manipulate, etc., any currency it wanted to…ALSO to bribe every country into handing over all they had…until everyone realized “china” has nothing and never had anything.

    Remember, Beijing withdrew itself from the Federal Reserve, and the Federal Reserve attempted to take legal action against Beijing after the Federal Reserve’s “fu#* ups” February 1, 2018 …which was all reported/public information until they pulled it

  5. Ramura on August 15, 2019 at 2:07 pm

    I was intrigued by your odd spelling of the word I have always seen as “analog,” so I looked it up. Apparently, “analogue” is the British spelling and “analog” is the preferred American spelling. Both are correct. Just a matter of preference. But I had truly never seen it spelled that way before.

    • Robert Barricklow on August 15, 2019 at 3:18 pm
      Over 60 yrs of awards.

    • Robert Barricklow on August 15, 2019 at 3:22 pm

      Problems with correct protocols today; below works.

      • Robert Barricklow on August 15, 2019 at 3:24 pm

        Of course, this analog human needs some work.
        [above, not below]

  6. Katie B on August 15, 2019 at 4:48 am

    I think these protests are organised by the KMT and backed by factions of US & UK who want to weaken Communist China power. The KMT are vying for control of the alternative system of finance looted cash deposited in western banks. Ultimately though, they would be a puppet of the Western corporations if they came to power in China unless they had a different end run that the west isn’t privy to.

    • DanaThomas on August 15, 2019 at 6:12 am

      Ah yes Katie, there is the “small” detail of Taiwan where the government has kept a low profile in the face of the continuing propaganda and naval exercises against it, focusing on economic prosperity. Then there was a significant news item (not mentioned in news and views) asserting that Triad members were seen beating up protesters. But they might just as well be beating up non-protesters, too; a reminder that the Triads have not just faded into the sunset.
      If the KMT hypothesis has something to it, this means that they felt sufficiently confident (or heavily threatened) to promote, or at least latch onto the concerns of the HK population, the Triads and the Overseas Chinese factions.

      • DanaThomas on August 15, 2019 at 12:22 pm

        Call for a “bank run” at Hong Kong banks. Some Yellow Vest groups called for the same thing in France a couple of months ago, but after that the story fell off the radar. This story has an odd feel to it – signalling about money laundering perhaps?

        • Robert Barricklow on August 15, 2019 at 2:15 pm

          There is definitely an economic aspect of warfare happening on several levels; and across many geopolitical platforms at the same time.

          • Robert Barricklow on August 15, 2019 at 2:19 pm

            error 404 = B.S,
            the below link works

          • Robert Barricklow on August 15, 2019 at 2:51 pm

            Check both:

            Will China Trigger the
            Next Financial Tsunami?

            Is Baoshang Bank
            China’s Lehman Brothers?

  7. Richard on August 15, 2019 at 4:32 am

    Searching for the cause of those bells and chimes were a mystery on this desktop until one realized that they could be replicated at will with video replay, heh heh.

    One is not going to impose any humble-simplistic-opinionated dissertation, but it appears that Ming the Merciless, either by Party default or by an embedded tyrannical upbringing, and not to appear weak amongst his fellow comrades, once again finds himself embroiled in a sel-imposed quagmire of sorts. Those with visions of western freedoms the British left behind when the lease ran out in ’97’ still have aspirations of sorts on how to move forward. It is not a fault but a good thing one thinks. That some do not seem to meet with Party dogma is an ongoing issue. Controlling communications is not like it used to be, probably once by letter and rickshaw a century ago, compared to modern transportation and communications systems. Chaos to anarchy is not a good thing for anyone, either, one also thinks, let alone appeasing some 7 million plus unhappy local folks who can read between the tea leaves, too. Party censorship seems to have a goal if only a futile one. That 2025 dominion goal the Party fostered now seems wishful thinking. Yet those aerial views of a certain stadium lined inside with accoutrements in the form of heavy vehicular hardware and personnel carriers do seem out of place and not there for a sideline view of a soccer match, but as a staging facility.

    When one surveils Hong Kong Special Administrative Region, a long-winded way of saying today’s Hong Kong, one can see the strategic vantage of imposing Party constraints on this strategic position and natural harbor. It’s changed quite a bit over the last century or so, from a thriving opium trade to most things found in New York, NY, US or London, UK.

    Unless one includes the Guangdong province just north of that administrative region the lands of Hong Kong are not suited for agriculture which means who ever inhabits Hong Kong is dependent on mainland trade and / or trade from sea farers from elsewhere to include most western Pacific regions and, of course, western trade partners. Stricter seaway controls or restricting shipping subject to inspections and authorization might also send the wrong message given how possessive the Party has become of adjacent waterways along the coasts and some modified islands. It’s clear that Party secrecy has underestimated global awareness of its secrets.

    On the outside one might ask, “Well, so what?” China, the Chinese, and Hong Kong citizens have many things in common, so what’s the problem? . . . Plenty! . . . It’s a complicated jigsaw with few slow moving rickshaws these days, although, there are a few Chinese Junks afloat in the surrounding waters just as there use to be in ancient times. They probably make good houseboats in the shallow estuary when converted. Even their design remains ancient with a few with installed motors to keep that nostalgic feel.

    At any rate, one can see something of what mainland Party members would like to do about the diversity found in Hong Kong. High-rise camps of re-education and relocation with a possible donorship clause in there somewhere. Relocation possibly to those ready built vacant cities inland. It’s not surprising that the Party has engaged in narration control, too, as they do have a whopper of a peta-flopper that tells stories. It’s a world leader in it, too. Program that supercomputer to spin a yarn in words and it will output a textile industry with tweakable variables and staff to try it out. Those folks of the Party vying for eventual global control over there have a long way to go to reach that destination of dominance, if they do at all. They’ve lost their make-nice-pick-out-furniture façade as well as started many things in motion they can no longer control with bullets, batons, and state sponsored media bulletins.

    One needs to consider those demographic gaps China, and the powers that were, imposed several decades ago, too. They’re coming back to the roost in mainland China complications and consequences intact.

  8. DanaThomas on August 15, 2019 at 1:54 am

    My Mandarin teacher used to say, “Chinese is not difficult, but it is not easy”. This applies not only to the language but also to the politics.

  9. goshawks on August 14, 2019 at 10:57 pm

    Lando Kong: “That wasn’t part of the deal! You said the people would stay under my protection!”
    Darth CCP: “I am altering the deal. Pray I don’t alter it any further.”

    I have to believe that the initial protests were done out of full recognition that this was a power-grab by the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China. The HK citizenry (all levels) could see their future, if they did not react strongly . That said, I believe that the ‘backbone’ of the early Resistance (see how I did that) was organized from the higher levels within Hong Kong – banking clans, corporate heads, criminal orgs, HK-aligned politicos, etc. Anyone with the vision and ‘clout’ to halfway order the people to hit the streets. In other words, a true public-private endeavor…

    The puzzle comes with the non-backing-down, once the HK folks got the results for which they had been demonstrating. That would have been the time for a ‘cease fire’, with everyone losing minimal face. And, this would have probably been when the majority of the citizenry wanted to retire; they knew to what further provoking the CC would ultimately lead. Thus, I am considering that ‘hidden’ HK powers were urging/requiring demonstrations to continue – for whatever goals.

    So, before any ‘outside agitators’ came-in to trash mainland Chinese offices and symbols, either the HK bigwigs had a death-wish or a very daring plan. Neglecting the former for now, they may be shooting (sorry) for a behind-the-scenes negotiation – ‘mentioning’ all the political and economic aspects Joseph cited – to back-off Darth CCP ‘permanently’. We’ll see…

  10. Robert Barricklow on August 14, 2019 at 9:50 pm

    Since the Western Press has not yet spoken the truth about Tiananmen Square being orchestrated by the CIA and Washington NGOs; I rather doubt we’ll be hearing any truths about the ongoing Hong Kong geopolitical events.
    Thus the current West’s coverage be colored as their past square’s coverage, to reflect Washington’s and Downing Street’s narrative to a T.
    Chapter 5. The CIA, NGOs and the Myth of Tiananmen; in F. William Engdahl’s Manifest Destiny: Democracy As Cognitive Dissonance footnoted and spelled it out in his 2018 work. He stated the reality of the events was far different than the West’s Press media accounts. It was in fact anything but spontaneous. Rather it was an intimate part of a larger regime-change template for upheaval launched by the same circles along the newly developed take democracy nongovernmental organizations.
    Incredible as it was, there was never a government massacre of thousands or even tens of students at Tiananmen Square on June 4. It was fiction manufactured by US Ambassador James Lilley, the CIA, and their fake democracy apparatus.
    To find out was is really happening will require sources other than the West’s status-quo press choir.
    China faces an information warfare at best. Meaning, if they do right,as they did in the Square; they’ll be vilified.
    This is, after all information warfare; where truth is the first casualty of war.
    In other words, how do we know what is in fact going on?
    Who are we to believe?
    Yes, I believed the work of F. William Engdahl as investigated, researched, footnoted and presented.
    I do not believe the West’s version period.
    Is China good? No.
    But name me a government that is?
    Whatever your answer to the above,
    is the one winning the information war.

  11. ML light on August 14, 2019 at 8:40 pm

    Great speculation, Dr. Farrell. I’d love to know if there was any “fine print” that was snuck into the customer’s debt “forgiveness” contract? Jubilee, wow! Never thought I’d actually see that. Lord knows, we must be close. I mean, really, how far can they take this lie? “They” can probably see the change in the medium, themselves. We ARE waking up, I think? Also, public VIDCHAT… Talk about blowing the lid off! Let the artillery rip, Dr. Farrell!

  12. Robert Barricklow on August 14, 2019 at 8:39 pm

    Reminds me of a Gorilla looking very disgusted on a hillside w/a thinking ballooned caption reading:
    Just when I learn all the answers to life’s questions;
    they go and change all the questions.

  13. marcos toledo on August 14, 2019 at 8:14 pm

    The Chinese should count themselves lucky Hong Kong is not Kasmir the legacy mess India Pakistan were bequeath by the UK.

    • BetelgeuseT-1 on August 17, 2019 at 8:09 pm

      mt, and there you are hitting the nail squarely on the head as to what is going on and who is (are) behind it.
      IMO, Hong Kong was only “handed back” by the Anglo/Zionist empire for the sole purpose of using it as a bulwark against the Chinese. The real (corporate/banking) power in the shadows remained firmly in place.
      No different when it comes to the creation of Pakistan, Singapore, etc.
      Divide & Conquer is the rule.

  14. DownunderET on August 14, 2019 at 6:00 pm

    Sound is good Joseph

    • Joseph P. Farrell on August 14, 2019 at 6:17 pm

      Well it was on THAT take. lol. The first one I sounded like Alvin the Chipmunk.

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