Many of you may have read Dr. Dehart's and my book Transhumanism, or my more recent book Microcosm and Medium, and hence have run across the whole spectrum of mind-manipulation techniques and technologies discussed in them, including the transhumanists' idea of downloading and uploading their memories into computers (and, presumably, back into younger cloned versions of themselves). Add to this the whole adrenochrome-young blood transfusion/modern vampirism madness, and what you have is a quest for virtual immortality, or at least, longevity.
As if to drive home the point that all of this might just be possible, S.H. shared this article about scientismists at the University of Texas Southwestern in Dallas have altered the memories of birds, making them "remember" new songs:
"Researchers have managed to teach birds songs that they had never heard before after activating select neurons within their brains—basically implanting false memories.
"However, in this case, neuroscientists at the University of Texas Southwestern relied on a different process called optogenetics, or the scientific name for controlling the behavior of neurons through a combination of intense lights and genetic engineering. Their findings were published in Science.
"Young zebra finches typically learn their birdsongs by absorbing and mimicking the songs of their parents. However, researchers managed to manipulate electrical activity in the birds’ mind, inserting genes into specific neurons into their brains that relate to learning songs. These genes allowed the scientists to activate proteins within the finches’ brains, lodging the song into their minds.
Of course, one can imagine all sorts of good applications for such a technology, and naturally, the article concludes with the usual ready-to-hand assurance that all this is a good thing precisely because of all those good applications and that we're "still a long way off" from total memory implantation or alteration in humans:
While the results of the experiment are an impressive feat, the sort of detail-rich, granular memories we enjoy still can’t be implanted in humans. However, the study could well open the door to potential treatments for human beings, including treating people affected by traumatic pasts, autism, and speech disorders.
But note that little passing reference to "treating people affected by traumatic pasts." I suspect every regular reader here senses the dangerous presence of "Soviet psychiatric 'hospitals'" hovering just on the dark fringes of the implications of that statement, or of Dr. Ewen Cameron's attempts to remove one personality and set of memories and implant another with his notorious CIA-MK-Ultra mind control experiments in "psychic driving." Who is to determine what is "traumatic"? And why even bother with that, if someone's thoughts or opinions conflict with the official narratives? They are obviously suffering "trauma" and need "help"... let's just get rid of those nasty memories. I've had some very traumatic experiences in my life, some of them when I was young. Their memories still haunt me and affect my life. But that's the point: they drove me in certain directions, some bad, and some very good (and overall, the latter), for I sought consolation in attempting a virtuous and spiritual life. Do I want to relive them? No. Do I want them erased? No, because they are part of what makes me human.
Put this development into the context of the whole transhumanist quest to upload and download entire personal memories. Add to that cloning, human-computer interfaces, and we are indeed looking at a kind of "immortality." But what if it becomes an "immortality trap," an ever-repeating loop that its participants can never turn off, living weary of "life" in a technocratic hell?
What bothers me here is the potential for the removal of any sort of development of a basic spiritual sense, that basic humanizing understanding that not every impulse is to be entertained or indulged, nor every bad memory avoided, or "modified."
We watch scientism expand and expand its boundaries until nothing is sacred, and there is no boundary which they will not cross or defile or tinker with, not the mind, not the memory, not even the sweet song of a little bird.
See you on the flip side...
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They will have to totally erase my memory of the Alta Vista web search engine , which had almost regex level of options (like not this, near this, with this and not that etc) to accept Google as God.
Name for this modification lab – Looney Tunes.
( Gilad Atzmon Lexicon of Zion A-z, entry for Catch22: Free Ham )
Hey, you don’t need to go on that carbon-intensive holiday — we’ll just zap you with the *feeling* that you’ve spent two weeks in a tropical paradise. C’mon, it’s good for the planet, hey we know exactly what we’re doing, cause like science and stuff. What could possibly go wrong?
Man, mass-acceptance of the climate “emergency” will be the gift that never stops giving to the Transhumanist elite.
“Total Recall” may not be so much fiction after all….
Douglas Quaid is haunted by a recurring dream about a journey to Mars. He hopes to find out more about this dream and buys a holiday at Rekall Inc. where they sell implanted memories. But something goes wrong with the memory implantation and he remembers being a secret agent fighting against the evil Mars administrator Cohaagen. An unexpected and harrowing series of events forces him to go to the planet for real – or does he?
Remarkable comments here. Comments and blog bring to mind that Tavistock was originally purposed with dealing with shell-shocked soldiers. Developed that into PTSD. And I’d argue much more discretely developed that into MK in all its forms.
Ran across an article last month about longevity and people’s narratives. Cited a study that old people who adjust their live’s narratives to more favorable aka nicer stories live longer. I checked and got verified that what the author was saying is that people who went through trauma with less accurate memories lived longer. Yup.
Any one feel like a farmer is refining a process here?
A process applied to his livestock?
weaponized or demonized ground hog day.
From cited article: “…open the door to potential treatments for human beings, including treating people affected by traumatic pasts, autism, and speech disorders.”
Anybody remember the X-Files episode where Mulder infiltrates an air force base, only to be confronted with a flying Triangular “UFO”? Mulder is promptly captured, and taken to an ‘interrogation’ room. There, he is dosed with some chemical in his eyes, and subjected to some ‘treatment’. After this, he is rescued by Scully, but does not remember anything about his infiltration. The X-Files was notorious for broadcasting an ‘insider’s view’ of reality. Could this have included not only UFOs, but also “mind-manipulation techniques and technologies” already fielded?
Joseph: “Do I want to relive them? No. Do I want them erased? No, because they are part of what makes me human.”
Slightly metaphysical here, but some have opined/channeled that we came down to earth-plane to develop compassion . To do that, one has to experience both/all sides of a given situation. That way, one can literally put oneself in another’s shoes. So, any ‘response’ is tempered by the knowledge of what it feels like to be in that position. “Removing” any awareness of some encounters would be counter to developing compassion . It might be a spiritual ‘setback’. (That does not include ‘lessening’ the impact of something truly traumatic, which is preventing normal functioning.)
Our elites are infected with the disease of godism they lust to be gods without knowing what is a god or the real responsibilities of one is. Power or the illusion of power blinds them control freaks to the very end fantasy trumps thought dreams vanquish thinking.
“Growing is remembering songs of forefathers” Ah, who were freemasons. Baal? You are really stretching a worn out diatribe. Try something productive… like the contributions the masons have made to the republic and are making this very minute. Have a good day, by the way. db
Actually, I am the original stonemason of the ancient guild, from high antiquity. I build cathedrals and pyramids. It is in my blood.
At the moment, I reconstruct the north rose window in Notre Dame, from scratch. That is the song of my forefathers’ legacy.
By template of Druidic Runes, I define the 33rd pivotal point, erecting the master Mason, drawing alchemical sword, from book of stone, in language of birds.
Among many Christians there remains a belief in the sacred and sanctity of all life. Though the animals on this planet are more directly tied to the soil than humans, there exists some degree of conscious and spiritual awareness of animals to the divine that also suffered as a consequence of the Fall. Though the animals, too, suffered as a consequence to our sin, they were primarily seen as collateral damage. Now, I think we are beginning to see why these ancient beliefs are prescient because of the possibilities that exist within this story.
Among Christians birds are special because they sing. Of all animals in the animal kingdom they have voices that share a close resemblance to human notions of music. Their speech patterns, language and grammar, though rudimentary, have a notation similar to music. In this they share some common features to some human speech, where inflection and tonal quality of the voice is as important to interpretation and understanding as the words and context. Human trials are inevitable for the use of this technology because these people have forgotten that metaphysics matters. There is a spiritual component in this Creation that is tightly woven into its fabric—and that spiritual component is a reflection of God’s love of community, holiness and beauty. The songs of birds may play familiar roles within their society just as language does in ours—but who can say that those roles are not pregnant with thankfulness and praise to the Creator simultaneously? St. Francis of Assisi certainly thought they were important enough—he chose to live among the animals to insure they heard the message of the Gospel as well as to fulfill the Gospel’s eschatological requirement. No element of creation should be left out.
I may be a minority here, but in my view, these experiments tell me just how fallen these men have become from grace to depravity. To tinker with ones any creatures’ mind to the point of changing its song is to tinker with the purpose for which these creatures were created. It’s the near penultimate fulfillment of mans Fall in Eden—however that may be framed. (To me in its rendering has always been more soteriological rather than historical. Sumerian legends aside the biblical narrative seems to point to something deeper than simple historical analysis. I believe this is a metaphysical passage–not an historical one.) It’s Lucifer’s path of ascension to God-hood—by perverting ones mind and bending creation to its purpose I can wrest creation from His hands into my own, impose my own divinity with the signature of my own image, and define my own righteousness to govern it. To tinker with these animals voices (and their thoughts by extension) approximates demonic oppression with profound consequences to nature. It is an attempt not only to manipulate the consciousness of birds, but an attempt to alter the contents of the birds’ nature itself. If THIS is their goal, they are crossing some very serious boundaries indeed. It’s incumbent on all of us who possess a like mind to say, “No” to this travesty. This is evil. This is wrong.
As a side note my wife will not be happy with this. Among her pets are finches–and she loves to hear their voices and songs.
These are arguments hunter/gatherers have had with farmers since well agriculture, right?
Not that I’m disagreeing AT ALL.
ZDB: I thought of this as I was composing my response. I can see where those who experimented with selective breeding programs would appear to be manipulating “creation” based on their world view. Over time it became clear that attempts to “create” beyond the species boundaries was not easy–and there appeared to be natural boundaries preventing such tampering. As these became more punctuated we see this debate’s intensity and frequency diminish. I’m not sure these discussions will go away now, because the tampering is far more than hybridization.
Even though our family consumes copious amounts of ham over any given holiday season and throughout the year, I still ponder the Judaic polemic against the practice. Even in the Christian tradition there remains the faint echo that these kinds of projects are undesirable. Pork may be good food. Genetically humans and pigs are related. Pigs are among the very few animals whose practice of cannibalism appears to serve no greater purpose than its availability. Christianity relaxed many of the dietary laws within Judaism as unnecessary with respect to its faith claims, yet the traditions remain embedded within our culture as part of the textual narrative and historical transmission. It’s traditions like these that cause me to wonder.
Last 40 years have tried a few regimens. Vegetarian, vegan, Mediterranean, Zone, Atkins, Carbo loading massive,…….. Last 8 years keto/paleo. Through all no intentional pork. Early on read about digestion and flaws of cannibalism. Body screws itself trying to use protein it considers self. Cannibalism is sign of failed and soon gone culture.
Best guess is that a bit of protein daily (3 – 8 oz) of protein the least like our own but still animal sourced is best. (Omega 3 fats are much more important along with monounsat fats and cholesterol.) So this is the best I can sort out the science. Eat small fat well fed animals (sardines? cod liver?). Avoid protein so like our own as to cause an increase in prion production. There’s a reason pigs make for good transplant tissue.
Now how did old religions know that kind of thing? Perhaps they didn’t. Perhaps they just saw their share of trichinosis and figured better.
Ever notice how technological “discoveries” are almost always portrayed with marvelous positive potential while ignoring any negative potential uses? Guess that’s left to the REALLY creative minds. ; . )
“We’re still a long way off?
A long way off[a couple of years?] from a….
MIB[Men In Black] memory wipe bright flash zap?
Or, do they already have that tool in hand…
in numerous undisclosed locations?
I think that’s the thing Robert. Define long way off. The farmer who lives 80 years thinks of 3 years as a short time. Most hybrid chickens get harvested by then when they stop laying. How long does 3 years look to a chicken? Or to a parrot? Or to a sea turtle.
Another defining aspect of relative longevity: it’s usually at least partially a determinant in who is the farmer and who is the livestock. How well would slavery work is slaves typically outlived their owners?
If any kids are wondering if there be monsters;
just read stories like these: they’re monsters galore.
Also, the kids can look at any transhumans among them and call them out: Hey, Bird Brains!
“We’re still a long way off.”
What you mean we, kemosabe?
Called away from post.
Returned and found my post gone.
Logged in; and presto! It was there w/no moderation.
Not logged in: gone.
Logged in: it’s there! ???
Hm. I saw these two posts.
It never posted.
Wasn’t really much in the post at all.
I just remarked as to its strangeness.
Believe me; you’ve, and others here have seen/heard more strangeness than we can even began to explain; or, perhaps even remember?
Well…that was depressing. :-/
They have nothing left in themselves.
Growing is remembering songs of forefathers, not those of slave masters of Baal, who are pretenders, the Jesuits wearing aprons.
What David did to Uriah, was what Saul attempted to do to David. Recognizing the pattern of a broken record, he did.
God’s creation is coming and going of seasons, trivially called Year. That is what territorial mating “language of birds” expresses.
SAMUEL SAID 2
Samuel told David to refrain from greed,
that his own jealousy would feed,
in bloodwrack upon head,
with Uriah dead,
thus sowing bad future seed.
1 Samuel 13:14