THE NEW SPACE FORCE COMMAND’S STAR TREK LOGO
This "fun" story also topped people's list this week, and so many sent it, that in thanking the first one who sent it, B.H., I'm thanking all of you. So with that said, right down to business.
President Trump's new Space Force has released pictures of its new logo, and already the internet is abuzz with the fact that it looks more-than-suspiciously familiar:
Is Trump’s Space Force Logo a Copycat of Starfleet’s From ‘Star Trek’? (Sure Looks Like It)
Before I get started with my high octane speculation of the day, first a little "confession," or as the current parlance has it, a little "disclosure." I am a half-closeted Trekkie.
Yes, I know. That may come a a shock, but I say half-closeted because my reaction to the whole Star Trek concept, and in particular the original series and "Next Generation" is ambivalent and lukewarm. The reason? Well, in short, lack of a storyline, lack of any clear or consistent cosmology or vision; but it's more than that. Star Trek - in contrast to Babylon Five - was a mess. Its vision of the human future was completely Godless and wholly secular and sterile; the past - secular, religious, or otherwise - if mentioned at all, was always mentioned in some sort of vaguely negative way. Yet, at the same time, it could not invent or create anything artistic: "Next Generation" performed more Mozart than anything "contemporary". And it was almost puerile in its characterizations: only the "bad guys" - the Romulans, Klingons, &c. - had any semblance of tradition, culture, religion, or philosophy. It was so bad that even Spock in the original series, a kind of pointed-eared Wittgenstein-in-Space with his own memorized Tractatus Logico-Trekkius, had to be toned down a bit in and given some sort of Taoist-Stoic tradition to make him palatable. The "good guys" had ugly sterile quasi-Swedish-modern furniture, wore spartanly ugly clothes, and had an outlook on life and the cosmos wholly friendly to Karl Marx or Albert Pike. It was "Scottish Rite Communists" in space(hence the Mozart; no Beethoven, no Bach, no Palestrina; just Mozart). Contrast Star Trek's utopian Federation with Babylon Five: in the latter there is still money, still conflict, and no attempt is made to suppress anyone's past, traditions, philosophies, or culture, and characterize them, as Pickard once did in season one of The Next Generation, as an outgrown infancy.
And if you think I'm alone in my assessment, there's this from the article:
The logo is probably where the resemblance between Space Force and Starfleet ends, unless we’ve completely misjudged Trump that is. It’s unlikely Trump actually is trying to create a post-scarcity, post-money utopia founded on principles of peaceful coexistence, shared abundance, secularism, science, and equality like the one depicted in the TV shows and films set in the “Star Trek” universe.
This short evaluation says it better than anything I could say: Star Trek was, in its first and second incarnations, a utopia, and in the final analysis, an unworkable one. It was the New England Unitarian Yankees-in-Space. It was a pretense to extend the American empire into space itself. And it's that which gives me pause: think of all the times that the 'prime directive' of non-interference in the lives or civilizations of others is violated in the series.
But is that the only message being sent by Mr. Trump's space force logo? Don't get me wrong here, I do think the message being sent with the logo is in part a cultural one. But is it the only one?
I doubt it, and herewith my speculation of the day. The other part of the Star Trek universe is even more terrifying than the cultural one, and in typical Star Trek fashion, is made to appear a bit "cute." That other part is the technological part: warp drives, matter-anti-matter bombs, transporters or teleporters, "phasers", force fields or "shields", disruptors... you get the picture. But in a context of hidden systems of finance, missing trillions, and a whole hidden black projects world complete with its own infrastructure and, I suspect, "culture", one that moreover has been in continuous existence at least since the end of World War Two if not longer, then there's another message being sent, one epitomized, perhaps, in the alleged end-of-life utterances of Lockheed-Martin's skunkworks director Ben Rich: "We found an error in the equations," and "now we can take ET home."
He might just have well have said "We found an error in the equations" and "now we can bring the war to ET."
See you on the flip side...
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I agree with Joseph as I,too, was a fan of the original Star Trek.Reflecting on Albert Pike’s background,I foresee many hurdles ahead.Albert was many things at once.These included him being a self-professed luciferian ,a high ranking member of KKK and a 33rd degree Mason.Let’s not also forget one of the founding fathers.
The description of the culture and economy that Farrell gave on Star Trek is precisely why I do not watch the show. I would rather watch Babylon 5 or Stargate. Although, I have not watched Babylon 5 yet and I have only seen a few episodes of Stargate that was a few years ago.
Whew!!! Glad I’m not the only one who have never even seen the series!!! I read all the comments with interest, though!! Hmmmm…..so we have 4 space forces….wouldn’t surprise me!!! I was hoping this last move was to combine how ever many we DO have!! 😉
I no longer even like the word “God” because it is obvious that it means something different to each person, or persuasion group!! To our Western Mind it means the “god” of the Old Testament, which was mistranslated as singular, when the word “elohim” is plural, so it should have been “gods”. How about using the word “Source”??!! Certainly here on this little backwater planet we really have NO clue about the true origin of Everything!!! That is the conclusion of this 75 year old Baptist preacher’s daughter!! 😉
Star Trek were right about the future on this score – The addictive Game episode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is12anYx2Qs
It’s like people looking at their cellphones all the time.
Like I am now?
Here’s a question for everyone: replicator technology is rolled out, fully functional, everybody’s got one, just like a washing machine. How much of the population is dead within a month? Think about just the possibility of someone being able to replicate all the Jack Daniels, cheesecake or cocaine they want. I’m not even talking about replicating plutonium, weapons, etc., just the food. I’m guessing the bottom 20-25% of the population would die off as they fail to put their wants in check. I suppose they can all get medical tricorders to bring themselves back to life, but there’ll come a time when technology can’t overcome mortality.
Side consideration is that you replicate that great plate of Popeye’s chicken. Of course the replicator always makes it *exactly* the same every time. Does hand cooked food become like a limited edition designer label of sorts? Would the “Crockafellas” still have to employ servants to cook naturally? One of so many issues with this.
This technology would also bring about the “de-employment” of farmers, cooks, truckers, etc etc etc. We would need a much bigger game to play (like exploring the universe) to make up for that existing game going away. And for the people who can’t/won’t adapt to the changes, it becomes a cataclysmic event. What does a Class I civilization do with “Luddites”?
They already knew then it was going to be now.
My favourite Star Trek series was Deep Space Nine. Voyager was too squeaky clean and TNG was utterly boring. Enterprise was ok but a slow. Having said all this, I don’t think I could sit through an episode of any of them again.
I don’t mind the Space Force Logo as long as they don’t adopt the Vulcan’s horrid philosophy: “The good of the many outweight the good of the few”. Then we’re in trouble.
Saw a comment on another blog recently from USAF vet showing an old patch from the Air Force. It would seem today’s media gets it wrong the same way we get most diseases wrong – confusing cause and affect.
(Cancer causes mutations not the other way around? It’s the terrain not the germ that finds the damaged terrain? And on)
Here it seems Star Trek copied the USAF patch of their day.
Insofar, and as near, as the terrain, if I am understanding Sheldrake’s thoughts on mutations, cancer may transvect(?) the germ through probabilistic events in and of the environment. Parbuckles, it seems prudent to ward your terrain.
Borax and dietary adjustments for 5G (biological) resistance?
I was a big fan of the original teevee series (even though I was limited to viewing in black and white, remember that?) but not so much the “Next Gen” as I found it to be not as compelling as the original.
As far as the logo is concerned, why reinvent the wheel with our tax dollars? I say, if it’s good enough for StarFleet Command, it’s good enough for us in the U.S.!
(Thanks to Basta & Richard especially for the ‘deep-dive’ into the patch symbolism.)
On “now we can bring the war to ET,” that would be like the Spanish Armada sallying-forth to do battle with a modern aircraft carrier Battle Group (CVBG). The only casualties on the alien side would be exhaustion from laughing too hard…
The first two Star Trek series did bring-in God, but kind of from the edges. More from an enlightened side than a religious side. In the Next Gen series, there was the Q Continuum. There was the Traveler. There was the physical-bodied ‘refugee’ who transformed into an energy-body in front of the crew.
My favorite Original series episode on this matter was the one where Kirk and Spock kept trying to save a medieval society from the Klingons, only to have a surprise. At the end, the Organians ‘tsk-tsk’-ed both the Federation and the Klingons for glorifying war, and then transformed into balls of light. They were already what we might call Ascended…
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Errand_of_Mercy_(episode)
The evil counterpart of this is the non-corporeal entity which gets aboard the Enterprise and proceeds to ‘play’ the crews (human and Klingon) against each other for ‘food’ via their negative emotions (an early Loosh?).
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Day_of_the_Dove_(episode)
So, the Star Trek creators did try to propagate the concept of ‘higher planes’ and ‘higher entities’, without descending into the maelstrom of picking-out the perfect God…
Agreed and agreed. That episode on the early loosh was probably my first conscious view of Hegelian dialectic. I think I was 11 years old the first time I watched and realized someone trying to start a fight between two other people.
Just an aside Joseph what are your thoughts on Battlestar Galactica the original 1970s and the latter SyFy version. And yes I was a fan of Babylon 05 it interesting with each succeeding series the look like vessels with full man crews. The Squire Of Gothous in TOS dealt with what a god might be and there were other episodes that played with that idea.
I really loved the Caprica series (short tho it was). The later Battlestar Galactica was very well done too.
For more “realistic” portrayals of upcoming space life, I’d go with The Expanse.
I am not a Star Trek fan, per se. I enjoyed the original series (TOS as fans call it) for what it was. The original Trinity of Kirk, Spock and Bones Mcoy will never be beaten. Shatner is “unique”, Nimoy was brilliant, and was, for me, the ONLY Vulcan who acted like a Vulcan, and Kelley was wonderful as the grumpy, no-messing with cowboy-esque Bones (which is odd since he used to play cowboys on TV before Trek, and Star Trek was meant to be a western in space … hmmm).
Anyway, I agree with Dr Farrell on his thoughts about Star Trek. It was meant to be an utopian ideal of the future, and that’s where it’s biggest legacy lies. But Star Fleet was a militaristic, “humanist” organisation. Although they were still rather pompous, and hypocritical, and always breaking that oh-so-important, Prime Directive. Strange that. Tell others what to do but don’t do it yourself …
Anyway, I’ve tried watching the Next Generation, but didn’t get on with any of the characters except for Data. The great Picard seemed boring, wooden, and dull (my thoughts about Patrick Stewart being rather a hammy actor haven’t changed over the years … Engage) … I won’t go into the others …
The other incarnations, I’ve pretty much avoided. Deep Space Nine came out almost at the time as the vastly superior Babylon Five (I wish that would get more love because that was EPIC sci-fi … you just had to get past it’s more soap-opera-y sections, and variable acting … underneath was something quite fabulous). Couldn’t get into Voyager. Silly voiced Captain etc. Enterprise … haven’t even touched.
And then we get to the latest incarnations: Discovery, and Picard. Picard was sort of ok for it’s first episode though it looks like the more you look at it the more it falls apart, and Discovery was a mess of gigantic proportions with an obnoxious cast (except for Pike), and even more obnoxious messaging.
Anyhow, its funny how “art” is bleeding into the real world with the Space Force logo looking familiar. Though it could of course be riffing on the NASA logos of the past, and as someone on the internet mentioned, also maybe a bit of the fantastic 70s British sci-fi programme, “Blakes Seven”.
As for the godlessness of Star Trek. I believe that is deliberate although the show runners (the hideously useless Kurtzman, and others) talk a lot about “faith” in the latest incarnations. Go figure.
Anyway, Star Trek is a great idea that has been run rather badly even though it always seems to have infinitely more money than other TV sci-fi … Doctor Who mainly (which we won’t even go into what has happened to that …). So it always looks reasonably good but overall it doesn’t really stack up as being great TV. Even the slightly ropey Expanse is better than most of Star Trek. At least you get to like the characters, and they actually have flaws, and something resembling a character.
Anyhow … all very off the cuff here … hope some of this made sense … all the best … moi
I have not seen any of the Star Trek movies, so I am not having no ideas what the symbols can show. But, I have been very interesting to know and understand the underlying principles of socalled Anti Gravity (AG), e.g. why can hail golf balls be floating in the skyes, when they should have been falling to the ground.
Jeff Rense was having several conversations with Bill Tomkins, very fascinating how the US managed to leap forward concerning the science to go into space. And how the US managed to build a space fleet.
Well, I thought this could be true, or maybe a kind of SF. I loved to read about those issues or terms in the 60ties in the magazine Popular Mecanics, then it stopped, it went dark, so to say. Then I told a friend of mine of my interest in this subject, maybe I could be over the top, too much to digest for him I thought.
We were having a conversation some months later. He told me that he had conformation from sources (in the military) that US was having 4 space fleets.
The attack on Pentagon Sept 11, what Barbara Honegger has reveiled, that one of the targets was the Naval Intelligence or Command Center in PG. Bill Tomkins opinion was that the development of the Space Fleet was the responsibility of the Navy.
What is going on now, I think it is a slow process of an exposure what has been going on from the late 60ties or 70ties. It can also explain the missing trillions that has been siphoned into the US and the world economy that has created the 8 to 10 % inflation the last decades.
My speculation. All the Best.
Dag
9/11 was an inside job, and so was Utøya in 2011, in Norway.
http://mileswmathis.com/happy.pdf
The idea of fake gravestones in Norway, as means to an end, does not bode well, for the Nordic countries as region. A false narrative is no foundation at all.
The late Norwegian folk singer, Odd Børretzen, symptomatically described Americans as “gods” – for Norwegians with Stockholm syndrome.
As a typical imperial province, the Norwegian slaves look towards the empire, for absolution of sins, moral high ground – to be petted as their master’s pet.
A slave killed Håkon Jarl, for a benefit, he thought.
Some folks might suggest a copy-cat look-a-like, but there are other patch works with similar parts incorporated into their design. Semblance of a spear tip on a patch can be as ancient and figurative as the artificial Pyramids or wood engraving of the Matterhorn in the Alps or water-color painting of a Stratovolcano peak along the Pacific Ring of Fire. The vague analogy from the article suggested seems to lack a background in patchwork design ingredients and is more indicative of limited spontaneity.
Having seen a fair share of military, NASA, and foreign patchworks one is more interested in what went into the symbology instead of hear-say suggestion of duplication that could portray a failure of the imagination. A close-up view of an arrow tip, globe, and orbiting object or even a Shuttle or Apollo patchwork have characteristics that could be over lapped. The idea of arrow points, orbits, and such go back quite a distance. Michael Schratt, researcher and military historian of sorts has a collection of patches worth seeing that span decades of patch designs that just as easily suggest an origin to the newest Space Force patch. The Star Trek command design is closer to one three letter agency logo. What went into its patterning seems the more interesting part.
At any rate, that triangular shape, grid patterned globe, object in orbit, and accompanying star points seem to suggest a point of an accumulated knowledge reference with aspirations toward a higher unity or the Origin – Irradiating Point. The arrow point with its apex uppermost suggests fire and because of the triangular shape symbolizes three or Trinity. With the vertical axis larger suggests an evolutive direction. The bifurcation at its bottom-most adds to its direction. The globe signifies a whole from the mystic Center to the world and eternity, the world-soul. What is suggestive of an orbiting satellite or moon is meaningfully complex given its reflected forms in iconography throughout the multiple millennia its been recognized as part of cycling worldly events. Its monthly phases, eclipses, and almost regular positions in the day / night skies contribute toward its symbolic complexity. With the advent of artificial satellites, in contrast to the presumed natural Moon satellite, that arcing orbiting object could be reconnaissance in meaning in line with modern use of low orbiting positions. There’s a lot of thought-form to consider in any symbol seen as they ‘re often arbitrary compared to natural forms not human made. If one had a choice of color code it would be the fictional Star Fleet combination.
My impression is that it will be limited to orbit operations only, the stars of for viewing purposes only, all anchored to the earth with a high tech anchor. Earth is imprisoned in The Grid.
Another take on Star Trek is that the captain has a view from his chair of everything, Panopticon prison style. Mr Roberts with a dope plant. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon “Now hear this, now hear this”. and Orwell’s “Here comes a chopper to chop off your head:”
And Ive always wondered what anyone on such good ships thought about privacy, or lack thereof.
The dots might represent a fake corona virus hoax.Star Trek medicine, with a ‘V’ outcome likely.
First thought from reading headliner/Which space force?
The one for public consumption; or,
the real privatized; proprietary 4-profit/power, space program?
I’m a Star Trek fan; but, not of it’s military format.
I was especially keen to their time-travel writing and Data characterization.
Now, there streaming a new Picard series.
Yes, they did subvert the Prime Directive. That part is realistic;
just as democracy is never practiced, only preached.
[Never did take to Babylon 5]
The clock!
White Rabbit
I have to laugh at the Star Trek propaganda. I’ve got to admit I never bought into that. I thought it was just the nice dressing up legend that they feed to Star Trek cadets. They’d soon realize Star Fleet’s real prime directive: force. Space Force is more elegant in expressing its mission succinctly.
Can’t stand logos. But, when looked at closely; they express hidden meanings/symbols to those in-the-know.
The error in the equation? The Orwellian Animal Farm’s: not all animals are equal equation? That error has been corrected in their world’s reality. They by far out-class, out measure, and out perform everyone else’s fantasy world. A fantasy world that is purposely led to believing in fantasy equations; and their horse & buggy space rockets red glare.
Yep.
Bombs bursting in air anthems
carried to infinity & beyond.
That, both space programs have in common.
War is good business, after all.
Especially; when the ones in-the-know, are placing bets on all side$.
That’s another equation they don’t tell you about.
Are those little “stars” on the symbol just ramdom dots? Past experience with these folk would probably make us doubt this. Connect the dots….
All indications are that the dots will form the sign of Aries.
Regarding the ‘stars’ of the original NASA insignia, from NASA’s publication titled “Emblems of Exploration – Logos of the NACA and NASA: “The stars in the design were not representative of specific constellations, but were artistic creations.”
My guess is that the stars represented in the original NASA insignia were the constellations Orion (at the top), Cygnus (on the left) and possibly Lyra with Vega (to the right). The insignia for the USSF has retained the star cluster on the left and right, but has deleted Orion at the top, possibly replacing it with Sirius.
Here’s a link to NASA’s “Emblems of Exploration –
Logos of the NACA and NASA”:
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/emblems-of-exploration-tagged.pdf
US Space Force uniforms should be camouflage – 95 pct pitch black with small bright specks (perhaps radium lit specks, or battery powered). Facial camouflage will have to black with radium speckling.
There’s money to made here!
ha. where does the black hole go? and the big bang?
Excellent review–especially of the Star Trek series. I have long been a quasi-Star Trek closet fan–but not of the variety that attends conventions and such riff raff. Having said that, I was never a real fan of the United Federation of Planets. Its culture was essentially Marxist with a stiff shot of strong secular humanist blather proceeding from the mouth of Captain James “Tiberius” KIrk to flavor the whole enterprise. (Pun intended.) That false sense of secular humanist propaganda aside, the remarkable thing to me wasn’t just the technology, but the possibility of meeting strange races with varying customs and human habitats in forbidden atmospheres. It didn’t escape me, though, that the Romuluns were more like “Rome” in the original series, whereas the Klingons were more like “Mongolians”, either. The former was more “eastern” Marxist whereas the other more “violent and unpredictable” Marxists–as if the series authors were trying to convince us of the superiority of the velvet glove approach to totalitarianism. The most interesting thing about the original version (other than the horrible acting) was how it could possibly become the cult classic TV series that it is–even popular among people like myself who thinks Marxism is a type of hell on earth. If you want to see the ultimate in cultural sterility in the franchise just look at the food in the original series–tofu in pastel colors!
The hippie Rune was used, to herd LSD hippie cattle to San Francisco, with flowers in their hair.
By same logic, an upward pointing arrowhead can herd fantasy cattle into space hippies. Grass is green on planet Utopia.
Hippie Rune and Tyr Rune are both connected to the lodestar. The similar shape is a cross-reference.
Herd animals are uniform.
Great analysis of the Star Trek meta; though I was never much of a fan of it all, I found Next Generation to be simply annoying–it was nerd utopia, adhd compliant, totally soulless, about as funny as a hangnail and had about as much drama in it as watching paint dry.
As for the new logo, yes it is uncomfortably close to the Star Trek logo, but that was a mash-up/knock-off of NASA’s original logo, and ST just re-arranging those elements with more graphics talent, so it all comes around.
Objectively breaking down what is there is more interesting to me than the ST link. First, the delta symbol sure looks like a huge mouse cursor to me and is so far from the original swoopy NASA Delta/Lambda as to be unrecognizable.
So, this huge mouse cursor sits astride the earth, drawn as per the UN using its blue and a variant of the UN’s map grid, so that you can’t help but get that linkage. Ok, pretty obvious all the symbolism going on there–total information awareness, anyone?
Of course you’ve got the obligatory satellite orbiting the earth (the X-37B, anyone?), this time at a rakish angle, and only two star clusters bracketing earth, where NASA’s logo had four. I’m sure the star clusters represent specific areas and/or are zodiacal references, and doubtless have some esoteric/freemasonic or insiders’ (i.e., ET lives there) meaning, but a quick search brings up nothing specific about where they actually are.
The whole thing is finished off with what for all the world looks like and doubtless is both the Star of Bethlehem and the Morning Star, which doubtless pleases both the Freemasons and occultists who overrun NASA and the Christian fundamentalists who overrun the Air Force and the AF Academy.
Star Trek seems a bit secondary to all that, no?
yep.