SCAFFOLDING REMOVAL FROM NOTRE DAME CATHEDRAL BEGINS… AND ...
Over a year ago in April 2019, most of us watched in horror as the iconic Cathedral of Notre Dame de Paris burned. There were "oddities" about the story that quickly began to be discussed, which then disappeared almost as quickly as they appeared, when the "plans" for "restoring" the cathedral were announced. Some of them were - to put it mildly - garish in the extreme. There was one for turning the structure into some sort of New Agey greenhouse and a bunch of other, similar nonsense. It was as if the wackier elements of the French revolution were back in force, quietly cheering the cathedral's destruction, and wanting to turn it into a "temple of Reason" once again.
Fortunately, the people of France nixed any restoration work that did not have as its aim the restoration of the cathedral as it was.
Now, however, there is a story out there that has me wondering all over again, for before the restoration work can begin, all that scaffolding around the building that was melted has to be removed:
Workers start to remove charred scaffolding around Notre-Dame Cathedral
But there's an aspect of this story that has my high octane speculation motor running in overdrive, and my suspicion meter in the red zone, and it's this:
Dismantling of Charred Scaffolding at Notre-Dame Starts
Now note what this short article says:
French media reported that delicate job of dismantling the 200-300 tonnes of steel that melted atop Notre-Dame when the cathedral went up in flames has begun. Two teams of five workers each will take turns descending on ropes into the heat-warped web of scaffolding, made up of 40,000 pieces, and use saws to cut through metal tubes that fused together in the inferno. The chunks will then be lifted out by a crane. (Emphasis added)
Steel scaffolding. Melted steel scaffolding.
Now you can color me skeptical, because a quick search on the melting temperatures of various steels reveals that carbon steels melt around 2500-2800 degrees Fahrenheit, or 1371-1540 degrees Celsius, and stainless steel around 2750 degrees Fahrenheit, or 1510 degrees Celsius. (See Melting Points)
This means, simply, that the fire that destroyed the roof and spire of the cathedral, while leaving much of the interior damaged but only partially burned, was a very odd fire, to say the least, besides being hot enough to melt some of the steel scaffolding.
I'm certain that given the burning out of the windows and other areas of the structure, that there were materials that could, indeed, have burned and created such an intense heat. I'm even going so far as to admit that there may have been very unusual properties of the fire itself, given the size of the structure, and that there may have been "hot spots" and "cool spots."
Yet part of me, like M.C. who shared the initial article and concern, has the suspicion that something here is not adding up. And it's not adding up for the same basic reasons that the 9/11 narrative of the collapse of the Twin Towers doesn't add up: airplane fuel does not burn hotly enough to melt the central steel core of the buildings, and the black smoke we saw on 9/11 means an oxygen-poor, and cool, fire.
And there's something else that has me questioning, and it's because I'm an organist (or rather, play at being one):
So according to the NY Times, the organ suffered only minor damage. Again, this has me scratching my head. How can this be? Pipes in pipe organs are made from a variety of materials. There are wooden pipes, and metal pipes, most of the latter being made of alloys of lead and tin. Note that the melting points of lead and tin are, respectively, a very cool 621 Fahrenheit, 328 Celsius, and 449 Fahrenheit and 232 Celsius, respectively. (See https://www.onlinemetals.com/en/melting-points again). The organ, in its turn would have been located at the back of the church (i.e., toward the entrance) in the organ loft of the nave. In short, it would have been located near some of the hottest burning places in the fire. Yet most of the damage described in the article is dust. We hear nothing of burned wooden pipes or melted puddles of the metal ones, and given its location at some height above the ground, one would think it would have been nearer a hot spot than a cool one.
So, yes, you can count me in the "still skeptical" crowd that this was all just a tragic accident, especially given the iconic nature of the structure, and how some wanted to "restore" it after the fire.
See you on the flip side...
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Karen and Pierre,
I drive when not locked down for a living. I am the oldest CDL driver I know still getting 2 year stretches between my medical exams. More than half the drivers I trained last 15 years are on CPAP’s now. Most are electronically monitored and lose their license quick when they don’t adher.
So far what’s worked for me best in last 30 years is keto diet, and learning much from Michael Mew, Patrick McKeown, Buteyko and Wim Hof. It’s a work in progress. My progress keeps my faith so far. Good luck.
Having spent a good amount of time at Notre Dame, admiring and studying the art and architecture, I know for a fact that the oak beams that held up the nave and steeple were amazingly huge. With an arm spand just over 6 feet, I could not hope to wrap my arms around them. Add to that the fact that they were solid, single pieces of centuries-old oak, and I question the ability of a regular fire to burn through them enough to cause collapse.
As anyone who has spent time camping knows, you can drag a heavy branch into a campfire and burn it for days, and that doesn’t begin to approximate the sheer size of the ND beams.
As a carpenter, I can also attest to having burnt up many a steel saw blade working fresh oak plants, much less near-petrified ones.
Nothing about the fire makes sense, and as time passes, nothing has come to light that would illuminate the problems. In fact, the info stream shut down almost as fast as it began, with almost nothing available about investigations or planning committees. One would think that as a World Heritage site, the UN would have commissions climbing all over the place to determine the cause of the fire and recommending steps to prevent similar events in the future. The silence is deafening.
Somebody stuffed up then, the steel should have been immediately shanghai’d off to China before anybody could investigate it, like 911.
Remember, where there’s smoke, there’s mirrors.
Lord of the Rings had the effect of the dark ring for those who would use it… Tokien apparently lifted a lot from Wagner’s Ring Cycle.
re Law, reading through the Bible from the beginning, now up to Paul’s Corintians… Law leads to Sin, Spirit leads to salvation.
Atzmon’s (from Spengler or someone) Athens vs Jerusalem.
Russian scifi The Blackout not a bad flick, re Aliens shades of The Day the Earth Stood Still. also shades of all the other movies ‘they’ make .
[ off topic but following through re Covid… I follow Marten Sorenson on Peak Prosperity channel on youtube daily… sensible, scientific (in a sea of deception, and WHO reversals)… worth while still taking the “honey badger virus” seriously. Sweden is not the same, has double rate as it’s neighbours, which is probably worth it so far for not tanking the economy. Anticipated second wave, we shall see. If I was forced to wear a mask at work I would get the boss to sign an indemnity for damage due to low oxygen (high CO2) levels. I would also get a finger pulse oximeter and set the alarm to 94%, which is what hospitals do (I have sleep apnea and use the machine every night). Make the boss set up an oxygen station you can then run to every time it goes off.
not sure about NZ, is is more Illuminated/NWO’d than Australia, but tracking is (for now) voluntary here, as are vaccines (though nursing homes insist on Flu vaccines for visitors, and child support is withdrawn for unvaxed kids etc), and shopping just has marks for distancing, shields for checkouts, and hand washes provided and recommended on entry to many stores. Stores almost empty (I was home for 12 weeks absolutely until last week, stocking up more, hey hey).
“Where there’s smoke there’s mirrors” LOL! Excellent Pierre!
Two things re: Covid, there is a spike in pleurisy cases in some clinics due to mask wearing.
And I also have sleep apnea, I would suggest you look into Vivos, vivoslife.com. I am using their appliance which is a permanent cure for the condition. I promise you it works!
Cheers!
Karen
Pierre, double the rate of its neighbors is based on the fact that Sweden’s nursing homes are like 10 times larger than Finland’s and Norway’s. Also Sweden’s are ridiculously understaffed – ironically enough with mostly poor Somali immigrants who are way over worked and underpaid and crushed before they ever got to Sweden – so their vitamin D levels are crazy low.
Swedish expert: why lockdowns are the wrong policy – The Post
https://unherd.com/thepost/coming-up-epidemiologist-prof-johan-giesecke-shares-lessons-from-sweden/
Got yelled at for not wearing a mask at work by a coworker last week. Started dropping f-bombs about how if we just listened to our govt we could be like NZ with zero cases. When the f-bombs dropped I realized I was in trouble. Quietly asked him if he heard about Sweden. Nope nothing. Told him to look it up while he still can. They did nothing and did fine. Had to repeat a couple times. Told him to check his phone. Looked at his other coworkers and backed off. For next 4 hours asked 23 people and got 20 with absolutely no knowledge of Sweden not locking down. They were all relieved and smiling. Made a point of splaining that what I had a problem with is that how is it possible that anyone is getting that kind of 3 week old news from me. Saw the f-bomber after all that and he was smiling too. And more concerned. Wanted to know what I was gonna do when my boss required me to wear a mask. Told him I dunno. I need the job. If they tell me I gotta wear a mask that then they’re gonna tell me I got take a vaccine, then that they need to chip me and track me 24/7, then that I need papers proving I am not sick to even buy groceries – like in NZ. He was all about it and swearing he’d never take a vaccine. Bothers me that he’s looking to me for some kind of reassurance. According to some other coworkers, sounds like everyone is afraid that us independent types think mask wearers are bad. Small taste of tyranny eh?
Actually, the wearing of masks or not is probably a good way for the PTB to ‘sort out’ potential free thinkers and other troublesome types. Really easy to spot and ‘file’ for future actions. I might mess with their heads and their algorithms by randomly wearing one or not…
Used to be wearing a cross would brand you okay, then wearing one got you in trouble, now it’s the same with face masks…I give up! ?
Won’t be accurate. I’m about as free a thinker as you’ll ever come across and I wear masks when in stores. Not outside. I got permanent lung damage from a viral bronchitus a few years ago. Don’t smoke. Have to use an inhaler to keep my lungs from swelling shut so I can breath. A lot of people don’t realize they can get sever COPD from respiratory viruses but I’ve talked to others that got it that way as well and they never smoked. It’s not required where I live and I wear one when ever a bad virus is going around just because I’m trying to heal my lungs and trying not to get anything that will set me back. Taking stuff to reduce scar tissue and it seems to be helping me reverse the damage because my breathing seems to be getting better over time. I decided to start wearing masks during flu season before covid 19 was a thing. Don’t care what others do as long as they respect my right to do what I think is best for me as well.
Norman Mailer on a tv interview mention religion keeping certain negative forces in check. And yes when you mention melted steel pipes 9/11 jumped to mind. Just wondering who do our elites bow down to.
The metaphor herein is architecture, as the author[Victor Hugo] made Notre Dame the center of his great novel[The Hunchback of Notre Dame]; where “the book will kill the building”[when the book usurped architecture as humanity’s chief mode of expression].
Fast forward to today and that book is being transformed under a new Sheriff in town: Code.
Code is law. Code is coming to control everything.
So who gets to control code; controls information.
The last time the burning of Notre Dame was discussed in length; this “burning” question lay on the cutting room floor.
Did code decide what appeared in the information landscape? And/or what disappeared on the information landscape?
The architecture of Hugo’s time spoke to the people’s spirit in its architectural language. A living spiritual language.
Today the battle is for free code[in the user’s control] vs. proprietary code[not in the user’s control].
Thus the burning of Notre Dame by unseen technologies; except in what “they” want us to see, is the architectural infrastructure scaffolding the coming the 20 worst century: hidden power, hidden finance, hidden code, hidden inhumanity.
Oh yes, we can see the destruction; just not the means nor hidden agendas behind the burning of our yesterdays’ architectures, books[digitized], sports[digitizing even the cheering crowds], education[digitizing teachers and young minds]. To continue this ad infinitum list would be insufferable.
Suffice to say the landscape is becoming proprietarily coded: privatized police, privatized fire departments[like in the days of Rome; and again, the insufferable privatized list goes on ad infinitum. In fact; “they’re taking this model throughout their[not ours] solar system, and beyond.
Inhuman is not a legacy for the stars.
We have met the enemy and it is NOT us.
It is inhuman.
Oh, I see this after I posted my response to your comment below. Me thinks we’re back on the same page again after looking for the answer from opposite ends of the book.
RB, in the farther reaches of the internet, being human(oid) is seen as an advantage for faster-than-light travel. AI is either not able to do it, or only at limited FTL speeds. Probably has to do with that old bugaboo, Consciousness!
Goshawks, that’s a very thought provoking idea. One I’ve pondered upon many times.
In fact, it shows flaws in my thinking; as I consider “they’re” reverse engineering our consciousness.
The reason is that; no matter the times, the metaphor is reflected.
Mirror is a good one. Script, another. “Engineer” crosses through times…
to today’s software/hardware.
But where’s nature?
There are mirror a-plenty in nature.
Nature’s living metaphors; are eternal keys to consciousness transcending through distance/time; indeed, into an/other existence/realms.
Simply put: a spiritual world[s].
Machines/computers;
nor wannabe Gods;
… need not apply.
Batteries; are not required.
I have always stood by my belief that our enemy is a non-Earth AI, and that it has travelled the universe destroying anything that’s non-‘code’. I like your description of these things – code. What a ghastly thing we have allowed in.
Are you sure we allowed it in? Pretty sure I was careful about that kinda thing.
Curious along those lines, ever notice how much more skilled, dexterous and proficient one is after meditating? Almost like being in better shape after better rest, eh?
Also from chores with animals and around the homestead, an old rule learned from an old farmer comes to mind. If you want to bring that (whatever animal) in (to whatever work needs to be done) think about it like you need to get done in the next ten minutes and it will take all day. Think like it may take all day, and it will probably get done in the next 10 minutes.
Does any of that apply here? If so who’s the livestock?
BlueWren, if you want to be scared, read the Galactic Center Saga series of SF novels by Gregory Benford. AI may have been around for a long time and in a large volume of space. Humanity may be in a ‘race’ to become enlightened or become subsumed…
Trump thought he could work with Obama’s demons and get them to turn sides; like the frog who gave the scorpion a ride across a river this decision was game over for him and the country. You can’t make deals with the Devil. Taking the scaffolding away because the time is now rotten enough for them to get away with refurbishing it to a Satanic Temple.
Um, my verdict is still out on Trump. Like this vid lays out, he may talk big about HCQ, but his WARP Speed research thang is spending zillions on Gates’ kind of junk science and NADA on HCQ. That’s one example.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/11/watch-perspectives-on-the-pandemic-9/
Don’t doubt it at all. Whole point of the movement of free healthcare I suspect is also to make treatments mandatory with a secret eugenics program hidden in the AI that tells doctors how to treat you. I’ve heard horror stories of organ donars with minor injuries getting taken to special wings of hospitals because they were a perfect match for someone influential most likely. I’m a big advocate for free health clinics instead of military bases all over the world because the health of a nation is a national security concern, but not if it’s going to be weaponized and used for eugenics. Trump isn’t following through with a lot of promises and still has too much of the elitest mindset. He is compromised because of his elitest friends and family. He’s playing the middle and is making deals with the Devil instead of sending him to Hell. You can’t make deals with the Devil and win. Only way to have a victory over the Devil is to send him straight to Hell along with all his minions straight from the start.
From what I have heard for a couple of years now, Notre Dame was actually part of the Satanic Rituals performed by the Illuminati connected with those at the Vatican, and the fire was started specifically to prevent another sacrifice being performed on Good Friday (or whatever religious holiday was the next day…). Apparently the Vatican is a major player in these rituals. Please see this video for more info on nefarious deeds. Hold onto your hats.
Anthony Zender Super Soldier Project Camelot interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGCtNUwKRyM&t=892s
Sorry I meant to tell you that the above link is choppy at first but just stay with it. All is there.
By the way, has anyone heard of the latest casualties to the medical martial law and now race riot martial law paradigms? First casualty I heard of was Minneapolis PD. Welcome to Minnesota’s version of Compton. I imagine this version of community protection will be Chinafication rather than Compton’s pure neglect. Either way, the common folk in Minneapolis better prep for a few rough years fending off nasty small time violent criminals.
The second casualty was truth from Greg Glassman. Between Crossfit’s damaged profit model (hard to make a living in a Crossfit box with purely online membership), and Glassman’s profane, direct and brilliant blasts of tech censorship (see Crossfit’s dumping of FB), pharma-corruption, and food industry corruption, Glassman’s had a giant target on his back for years. And now:
https://www.crossfit.com/why-didnt-crossfit-just-say-something
Ironic, when they tried ME2 on him, his less virtuous history than Garrison Keillor’s life practically protected him from such profane claims.
Curious how far this medical/racial martial law can go in crushing all science. Curious too, what adulterated paradigm gets thrown into the mix next to froth up the media and justify further Marxism and/or fascism for our own safety. My guess is that religion is next. The zeitgeist is ripe for it with all the suppressed churches and removed vaccination exemptions.
I wonder if Malcolm X and MLK would have worn a mask. Or what they’d think of Bobby Kennedy’s kid.
Speaking of some of the black, white and various shades of the spectrum majic – ran across this source recently. I’m not much on biblical sources to reinforce ideas, but it is nice to hear someone poke holes in AJ, David Icke and others who are co-opting everyone else who poke holes in pharma paid legacy media.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L3iRiReUAg
Debunking the Khazar Theory (Myth)
E511 Ministries
if my read sources are correct the most burned spire will be replaced by a monolith-
Larry in Germany
Like in a Kubrick flick?
Nice catch Doc and all. Given the little familiarity I have with scaffolding (if it’s the same stuff used in most construction), my surprise is that it’s still there at all. Curiouser too that the few pictures we did see show pristine looking scaffolds. I had expected gooey wrecks.
Years spent in construction make me concur with Basta. Steels in house fires sag. Think headers over garage doors spanning 18′ and I-beams and posts in basements holding up 2 floors of wood framing.
All the same, it does seem unlikely that a pipe organ of that age and nature could survive much of anything. Any bets on how much modern sound systems will be installed? And how many different tech excuses will rationalize it? Wireless speakers? microphones? Bluetooth? 5G?
(from my brother, who is a mechanical engineer):
The heat deflection temperature of steel is 1600 degrees F. At this temperature the steel would lose its tensile strength and collapse. Imagine a blacksmith heating metal to 1600 plus (cherry red color) in order to form it by pounding on an anvil. The article said the metal melted together, so after it came down at 1600, it then reached the temperature over 2700 where it settled (with no tensile strength), we assume this was on the floor.
We need a plan view showing the Cathedral and the melted 2700 + piles, then we can look at items or spaces about the melted hot piles of steel to draw further conclusions.
Another important question is what accelerant was used to catch 800 year old thick oak wood beams on fire. The accelerant would have to have pumped enough energy into the beams to get the beams up to their kindling temperature from the ambient temperature be before they would sustain burning. Q=mc(T2-T1), the m is huge. A cigarette did not do the job.
Actually, except for a few major structural members that are indeed steel I beams, the vast majority of the scaffolding used at Notre Dame was the standard-issue modular scaffolding you see all over Paris. It fits together with some thin metal clamps and joints and is very light, as it only needs to support the weight of the workers and some portable equipment. It can’t even support itself and so is pinned into the facade at intervals so it doesn’t collapse.
The main part is a ~10 ft. long tube about 3 inches in diameter and about 1/8 inch thick, made of a cheap, zinc-coated amalgam. Given the heat of an intense fire, this scaffold would indeed just crumple and melt, so no surprise there.
As for the organ, like much of the interior, it was sheltered from the fire in the roof by the thick stone vaulting and so was undamaged.
This may be normal. While steel will not melt completely it will loose structural strength at normal fire temperature. In standard construction of a house steel is avoided or surrounded by a fireproof cover…wood is generally seen as retaining strength longer in a fire than steel.
Specifying that it needs to be cut to be removed verifies this. If it had fully melted it could simply be shovelled up like the cars on 9-11.
There does not seem to be any suggestion of exotic weaponry used here like 9-11 that did melt cars and make filing cabinets and steel beams disappear as said by dr wood in her dustification talks.
Maybe – perish the thought! – that scaffolding material was not quite up to standard – trimming costs to line pockets? This alone would be enough to put a lid on enquiries for as long as it takes to do back-room damage control. This is not saying there may not have been other deleterious goings-on, but these are harder to pinpoint than what could come out of PHYSICAL evidence. Such as in the removed remains of certain large buildings no longer standing in New York.
While reading this I could not help but think back to the fires in California where the cars where melted and burnt to a crisp yet the trees around them where still fresh and green
Bingo… I’ve had that thought too… one could use the scaffolding as a reception disk/antenna…
Are there any pictures of scaffolding as messed up as those cars?
The Cathedral of Notre Dame as another example of the black magic of social engineering? I think so. All of this makes sense–especially given the occult meaning of the Cathedral’s name and it’s provenance. There was a lot of occult nonsense flowing across the internet relating to altars and such. Then, Michelle Obama’s presence on the river has an interesting occult connotation to the story provided the rumors of her real identity are true. These are the burning times. From the black magician’s point of view what’s another burnt offering? And now that churches here have been closed due to COVID-19 fear-mongering in the form of social and medical policy, I expect to see a few more. We’ve already had one in DC. If I can find one difference, though, it seems the one in DC is more tactical than strategic–as if the black magician’s power has been diminished. Another head scratcher for sure.
I sometime wonder; if those using black magic, are instead, merely instruments of the black magic, “they” pretend to control?
Black Magick itself is many, many layers Deep.
Beyond control?
One person I knew who claimed to be have been involved in magic once told me that all magic has a sheering effect. All magical acts (incantations, spells, etc.) cost people energy and personality to some degree. White magic, so called, require small amounts of the same, but over time, the sheering effect is cumulative and noticeable. Dark magic, he said, had the greater sheering effect, accumulated the fastest and had a significant impact on the persons’ will and personality. Since I’m not involved in those circles I cannot confirm this–but I suspect there is truth in it. In other words, the more often dark magic is used, the greater control the dark forces that contain it take control over the “receiver”.
With respect to receivers he offered the following. “The illusion,” he said, “is the human controls the power. The reality is, the power controls the human receiver. Whatever Force is behind that power is the one calling the shots. The receiver is relieved of energy and free will: and the receiver becomes a more effective transmitter whose magical acts become dark over time. But that Force knows there is One limiting him–and that is whom the Force fears the most. Against the One the Force has no authority.”
Beyond these two things I can say no more. I just don’t know.
Hard science facts like melting temperatures may be considered as an optional by some, but I think not for a few million French people.
One could propose an argument that Christianity, and in this case, a structure with “Christian” implications are under attack via the covid19 psyop. You can, most likely, look for this to continue at any given opportunity as it is another means of division of the unwashed masses.
Did they retro fit some large bit of smart tech for the grid I wonder lol.
My main worry – given that Michelle Obama was ‘coincidentally’ on a river-outing next to the Cathedral of Notre Dame de Paris when it burned – is that the PTB have the Cathedral in their sights (gun sights). Unfortunate things could happen during the dismantling and restoration, rendering it necessary to improve on the building. Watch out for this ‘gambit’.
Plus, as I’ve mentioned before, there may be uplifting acoustics or even energetics that are native to the building and would not be recreated in a major rebuild. You could even create negative versions of the former.
(Steel would not melt in an ordinary fire. Anyone who has barbecued knows this. The quoted “metal tubes that fused together in the inferno” sounds like yellow-journalism hyperbole. However, it could be ‘conditioning’ the public for the bad news that the structure is basically shot and needs to be rebuilt from scratch. See “Michelle Obama” above…)
Shelly Obama’s presence was probably as much symbolic of the network’s drive to get us into the nwo as anything else; there’s a lot of masonic-crowley-esque nonsense going on with kneeling and rituals… Ive not looked into it but it sounds like something of that ilk…
I share those suspicions goshawks.
Very, very good point goshawks…..