NOW WAIT A MINUTE… THE CDC’S NEW NUMBERS

NOW WAIT A MINUTE… THE CDC’S NEW NUMBERS

I've been getting tons of emails on this one, and, granted, it's about that story we're all sick of hearing about, it is nonetheless intriguing. So thanks to you all who passed it along and shared it. I had so many people sending it to  me that it vaulted to the top of the finals box. The CDC appears to have released an interesting set of numbers which, if true, raise lots (and lots[and lots]) of questions:

Weekly Updates by Select Demographic and Geographic Characteristics

Now, here's the clincher, the whopper doozie squating in the middle of all of this:

Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups.

Wait a minute, of all the deaths being reported, only 6% are due to the virus itself without other factors (co-morbidities)?

Now, if you've been following this whole story carefully, very early on many in alternative media were raising serious questions about the numbers of reported deaths, and many were claiming that people who were dying with covid were being reported as having died of covid, and here we appear to have a back-handed admission that this was so.

A further ramification of these new numbers is that if the percentage of deaths from the virus alone as a percentage of deaths with complicating factors is so small, the percentage of deaths relative to the whole population is even smaller.

And if that's the case, then there seems to me to be a further implication, especially for those calling for mandatory vaccines against the virus: why is a vaccine needed for a virus that now appears, by these latest numbers, not to be nearly the dreaded pandemic we were led to believe? Or is there some other agenda behind that? Or conversely, why is there a call for a expensive vaccine research and mandates, when the dreaded (and inexpensive) hydroxychloriquine seems to have, by some sources' lights, an effective therapeutic and in some cases curative effect?

At the minimum, these new numbers raise some disturbing questions, and appear to corroborate at least to some degree those early skeptics' views of the basis of the numbers being reported. Time will tell, of course, what other new numbers from the CDC might indicate, or, as the case may be, backpedal, on these latest statistics.

In the meantime, Kamaula Harris is calling for nationwide mask mandates, while others push the meme that it will "never go away," raising the prospects that "they" want to keep everyone masked... forever. The question is why. Why - with previous planscamdemics (think SARS from a few years ago) - were no such draconian measures instituted? And why institute them now?

Bottom line: the CDC's numbers raise disturbing questions and implications.  This is a case of "you tell me"...

See you on the flip side.

65 thoughts on “NOW WAIT A MINUTE… THE CDC’S NEW NUMBERS”

  1. Apparently CDC is the new landlord. This article from the Lew Rockwell site thanks ZeroHedge for the heads up on this.
    https//lewrockwell.com/2020/09/jeff-diest/the-cdc-is-americas-new-landlord/

    Seems contracts are void.
    Laws don’t matter.
    Is Congress/Senate/Execcutive/
    Consti Tution subject to/of the private CDC?
    No elections necessary?
    Is it to be enforced by the UN troops?
    Whose laying down for this?

  2. The german equivalent of CDC, the RKI shows similar results. They have a graph that shows, that posotive tests per thousand people are constantly abouit 1,4percent, which is within sthe statistical failure margin. This is going on since May. Go figure.

  3. Jerome Powell announces, strangely last week, that “our inflation target has been met.” This week, the truer covid data comes out, arizona changes its rules and are taking the kids back into classes. See the pattern?

  4. Well, I’d say we got THAT one settled!!! 😉

    Aside from that, it seems a “system” IS coming our way & the asteroid field that moves through will become quite apparent. We all saw the one that hit in Africa, not long ago.

    Now on the 19th of Aug. many rocks fell from the sky & some people from Brazil are becoming rich from collecting & selling them!!

    Israeli News Live recently interviewed a man who had had access to the notes of the Chilean Astronomer who warned of what was coming our way…..at exactly this point in time…..so we can expect things to get worse, not better, in the way of falling rocks!!

    Shepard Ambellas of Intellihub keeps a close eye on this type of thing & he was interviewed twice by Jason Goodman. I believe we remember Robert Harrington who also knew of the “Something Coming”!! Call this what you will; make fun of those trying to warn us…..we shall soon see who has been correct in their research!!

    Those “in the know” are aware of this & it will be interesting to see how each faction uses the happening to their own advantage!!

  5. Marre, have you seen much on CRT, critical race theory? Or any of the other Marxist versions like critical gender theory?

    I linked a youtube yesterday on Doc’s Saturday blog. It’s about Carey Petersen at Sandia Labs being attacked in an Antifa administrative kinda way. Here it is:

    Saw this today on zero hedge. Sandia is under attack and so far not looking good.

    https://www.zero hedge.com/political/sandia-labs-goes-nuclear-employee-who-sparked-internal-revolt-over-critical-race-theory?utm_campaign=&utm_content=ZeroHedge%3A+The+Durden+Dispatch&utm_medium=email&utm_source=zh_newsletter

    https://www.you tube.com/watch?v=zyNW9nlFDBk&feature=emb_title
    Pushing Back on the Narrative of Modern Systemic Racism & White Privilege by Casey Petersen

  6. In response to everyone here – first Roger. Sympathies for you and your friends family. Had this respiratory thing or something similar 1/2019. My wife 12/2018. Worst we have had in memory, including strep, pneumonia, mono…. although I would take it over a kidney stone.

    Which brings to mind: among a number of buddies with kidney stones (yep we all kibitz) I only know of one who died from it. In fact he was 100# overweight, the best Jewish Italian cook and heading into his sixties hard. He’s one of the folk who taught me to drink lemon water – alot. This friend died suddenly. The pain surged Sunday night after a big party he cooked for and sent him straight to a massive MI and death. So is that a kidney stone death or a heart disease or what? Dead is dead as long as there are no massive emergency pork barrel funds rationalizing crazy death certificates.

    Which brings to mind another underlying theme I am noticing more. Scanning all viewpoints I find the stalwart Biden/Harris supporters all believe the cv1984 numbers underreported by a factor of 2 or 3 because well conspiracy theorists control the world.

    Everyone – all of us – everywhere – are feeling, expressing being driven to zero credibility for the society we were raised to believe in. BLM believes all guns should be confiscated leaving us with only military and LEO with guns. And that we should defund and dissolve LEO and militaries. All of us believe the health care system and the regulators are lying, in all directions. Same for govts. Same for employers. Same for every authority we ever respected and depended on.

    We are being driven to this disbelief on all fronts. That’s the irony of hearing a guy like Trump soft sell a fact as helpful and get crushed as a monster for lying when he’s telling the truth. We’re not just being desensitized to lies. We’re being pulled back in a long strong slingshot of disbelief.

    Who would believe anything Gates ever says again? So when 10% of the population starts falling over in Sept, Oct, Nov, 2020 from any of a number of causes, who will argue with Gates then? Especially when he and his close personal friends (our heroes), Bezos, Musk, Zuckduck, et al are the only folk with funds to save us (and repo all our land).

    1. Part of that rant comes from contacts on farms, processing plants, trucking, warehousing and from what we read here. Even if all the junk stops production/distribution return to good levels, we have at least months of stark food supplies coming. Not sure when it starts. Gates and Rockhead think tanks have been selling vegan/cannibalism for some time.

      How many years have we heard and said, well that will never happen on how many topics? And now are we starting to get the idea that any horrific safety based law can be imposed with enough societal torture.

      Deborah Tavares has put out long (too long) videos for months from Cali. She’s one of the first to not the attacks with silent weapons. She is a commercial/residential realestated developer burned too many times by zoning boards too stacked with UN agenda puppets, so she studied up and learned what weapons there are, who profits from this nightmare and how.

      Today she pass me a link to Linda Emmanuel – who sounds as nutty as 9Nania did in her rants about Niburu coming years ago. The scenario Linda brings to mind from her odd source named Mosh (spirit guide?) is nasty.

      So far from what I gleaned, we are looking at food born illnesses nation wide (if not global) starting 9/4/2020. Brucellosis and more? Somewhere in here, power outages will hit and when brought back up, 60GHz will emanate from every wire in every house connected to the grid. Maybe 10/28/2020 (Gates’ birthday)? She’s figuring on 60GHz kill zones nation wide mostly in cities. Sounds like Georgia gets it worst along with trucking hubs all across the nation.

      https://www.lindaemmanuel.com/index.html?utm_source=EXTREMELY+URGENT+-+KILL+ZONES+++DEAD+ZONES&utm_campaign=EMF&utm_medium=email

      BTW, Doc, she’s got a decent enough link on why smokers need to keep smoking and quit knowledgeably.
      https://www.lindaemmanuel.com/uploads/3/4/6/9/34695438/is_it_safe_for_you_to_stop_smoking_withpic.pdf

      Then in Nov 2020, the toxins and 5G attacks lead to downed distribution – as in trucking taken to zero and nation wide starvation. Now let’s throw in a couple hurricanes taking petroleum refineries and distribution down, who knows what population reductions we can see? And don’t forget a few geo-engineered storms and mosquitoes.

      What bothers me most about all this is that these scenarios are more plausible than the idea that David Martin and Judy Mikovitz are going to take down Fauci and Gates in a court system owned by Gates.

      BTW, anyone got any bets that Fauci will exit stage left as Epstein did? Blame it on a bad throat polyp removal and we never see him again? Wonder if those two will be playing pinochle together near Little St James.

      1. One thought you would mention granaries abroad catching fire and exploding, but not quite on the scale of those in Beirut. Also, derailments of large transfers of corn harvests. That mid-west Derecho [ (Pronounced day-RAY-cho), a widespread and usually fast-moving windstorm that produces damaging straight-line winds over areas hundreds of miles long and more than 100 miles across, like that recent incident in Iowa qualifies here, too, as a weather-related bullseye hit. Although such storms are not new they’re rare enough yet given the calamities around the globe such as in mainland China, its drought, snow-freeze, flooding (what’s next) wiping out harvests, one has to consider an old quotation from famous Chinese detective when instructing number one son on a case; “Mind like parachute, must be open to function.” ~ Charlie Chan [As in, “What’s really going on?”]

        Speaking of the fictional Charlie Chan TV actor, just heard that Chan Kong Sang, Hong Kong martial artist/actor, otherwise known as Jackie Chan, has had several run ins with the Party confiscating his Beijing mansion. It would seem that many things do not last over there, even for the well connected.

    2. Kidney stones?
      take harlemmer oil twice a year for a week , it does make your pee smell like Bitumen , but it works great.
      it reduces the stone to nothing
      bye

    1. I believe that an ancillary benefit of the plandemic is teaching AI to recognise us by height, gait and so on, rather than just faces. They know the riots are coming. That is, real ones…

  7. Since when did the CDC care one hoot about truth;
    let alone healthcare?
    So why the 180?
    Unlike the scorpion’s natural nature;
    is nature the CDC’s programmed enemy?
    Is the CDC blowing off the new second wave numbers?
    Or, do they have to wait for the 5G,
    and/or new bioelectrical test release
    and/or some other scenario.
    Or, have they move all-in to stage a civil war?
    Now, they can be truthful; have others put on their masks of democracy, to cover over the actual exercising of scientific totalitarian power.

    As the saying goes,
    If you can’t see yourself being played;
    it’s already too late.

    L

  8. I’ve been watching this CV story pretty closely since March. Early on, it became clear the actual cause of death for people who allegedly (based on flu-like symptoms alone, at the beginning) or actually (assuming the tests are reliable, which is debatable) died from CV (whatever CV really is) were being recorded in a sloppy, inconsistent, unscientific way. I don’t see how anybody, anywhere can have scientifically based numbers. Plus, as goshawks mentioned, there have been incentives and pressures, again from early on, to attribute deaths to CV whenever possible. So it’s not really news that the death count is unreliable and probably inflated (much like the “case” count, by the way). So if it’s been an open secret all along, why come out and admit it now??

    As for why the mask mania and draconian measures are coming right now, they probably serve multiple agendas, but I think it boils down to control. They feel they need to get the population anxious, distracted, divided, bankrupt, vaccinated, surveilled, and social-credit-scored. In order to clamp down and control, because they know something big is coming and/or they’re looking to fundamentally change society.

    I suspect it’s about the Great Reset–i.e., transforming the world economy. I think that’s going to involve: drastic lowering of income and living standards of most people in the Western world; dramatic destruction of employment, capital, and purchasing power; and a new digital currency, with most people surviving on a universal basic income. All those changes are going to create a lot of anger and unrest, which they can’t let get out of hand. Hence the need for tighter top-down control.

    1. Is the something Big?
      A Full Spectrum Lockdown?
      Asteroid warfare?
      [high-tech illusions backed by real explosions]?
      An AI that’s moving from SNAFU to FUBAR?
      A purposed economic meltdown that’s moved beyond its tipping point?
      All the above and more due to …
      a leadership that’s gone insane?

    2. Yes, this ‘situation’ reeks of hidden motivations. We have to basically ignore the presentation and apply the ancient “Who Benefits?” logic. The latter could be several levels deep, depending on how far down the rabbit hole one wishes to venture…

    3. Speaking of deep rabbit holes, this was interesting (completely unverifiable, of course):
      https://terrancognito.blogspot.com/2020/08/some-thoughts-on-this-journey.html
      “This ‘separation experience’ reality was created over the eons, originally with consent (contracts, if you will) and later through undisclosed implied consent, coercion, intimidation, and sequestering of knowledge.

      It took the collapse of Atlantis 2, Lemuria, and the ancient civilization in India to really bring humanity down. Plato is the only well-known reference to Atlantis 2. … Recorded knowledge from Atlantis sunk to the bottom of the sea; what knowledge that remained with the survivors was ruthlessly purged by the invading Draco. Even the physical survivors of Atlantis were persecuted – in the oral traditions of the Basque, the Berber, the ‘five civilized tribes’ of North American, and the Maya.

      They couldn’t have humanity Knowing there was an advanced civilization before they arrived. Sumeria was a Draco-supported empire, and was falsely recorded as being the birthplace of humanity in the fertile crescent of Mesopotamia. Our official narrative of human history is the biggest myth of all. That was followed by the dark ages in Europe. ALL OF IT was engineered to bring the collapse of Earth knowledge and enslavement to a tiny group of controllers.

      China claims to be the Earth’s oldest civilization. It is not. Not by a long shot. It is the oldest Draco-compliant empire on Earth. … There were 5 separate epochs of highly advanced civilizations. Much of it is still there in Antarctica.”

  9. Is this the start of the biggest “climb down” that we’ve ever seen?
    Is this the biggest “The wrong copy got posted” moment ever?
    Should Fauci & Gates just book one way flights to Paraguay?

    I think a lot of it has to do with Dr Levitt and his band of data digging fellows. If 60-80% of the population is already immune due to pre-existing immunity they can’t justify a vaccine in any way.

    Countering the Second Wave with Facts, not Misconceptions

    By: Udi Qimron, Uri Gavish, Eyal Shahar, Michael Levitt

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/72hi9jfcqfct1n9/Haaretz-20Jul20_ENGLISH%2012082020%20v3.pdf?dl=0

    Some highlights for you:

    Pre-immunity. No country has got more than 20% infected before it died out.

    In several closed communities that underwent testing, the infection rate was always capped at 20%, which statistically aligns with maximal infection rate in these communities rather than recurring coincidences.

    In Sweden the infection rate did not exceed 20% and the percentage of people who survived the epidemic exceeds 99.9% of the population.

    In Belgium, the country with the highest population mortality rate, where less than 20% were infected, and more than 99.9% of the population has survived.

    Immediate removal of most restrictions on the economy, immediate return to normal life of low-risk population while helping high-risk groups reduce the rate of social contacts is in order.

    1. CDC may climb down, but governors seem unlikely to climb down. Instead they keep doubling down and justifying tyranny with more tyranny. Funny how masks became necessary long after the statistically certain peaks in deaths. Of course then that’s proof that masks work, right? You wanna take that mask off in front of your boss just as they turn up 60GHz pollution and tainted and sparse food supplies? Oh yeh. And power downs on grid? We are all California, now.

  10. Will the real expert of experts please stand up. . . Rats! . . Once again there ain’t. Not that that is anything new, but at least those expert wan-na-bees aren’t panicking like they were when those population dense areas began spreading an unknown to them bug around and folks were checking out in unusually large numbers in close proximity to each other. The local numbers confirm those spikes.

    Speaking of spikes, one of the three characteristics (or keys) of that prolific bug.

    According to the Epoch Times, a few days ago the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) presented new guidelines for those asymptomatic folks narrowing testing recommendations. “Asymptomatic people no longer require CCP virus test: New CDC Guidance.” Testing once, of course, does not negate future development and/or exposure to the bug. If not categorized properly negative, false negative, positive, and false positive numbers can run amuck yielding wrong interpretations for those data obsessed. A work in progress while others run the numbers for other margins and outcomes in various markets.

    Still no mention about those probable outcomes regarding Solar Minimum thresholds and global effects. Let alone the consequences of global disruption. There’s data that spans centuries and more if you bother to look and recognize its meaning. Tenured quack-tologists are accused so that they may get a job that doesn’t proliferate falsehoods with a wink and a nod and a bribe. There are a few diploma braggarts wishing they’d have taken a different route than get snagged into false narratives by weasel wording gabbers. At least there no mobile crematoriums running 24/7 in the US or sanitizing of likely crime scenes, or state sponsored criminality (one hopes). There’s hope where records are accurately maintained despite the alarming numbers that may be indicated.

    That bug does not act like one Nature has anything to do with in its most recent mutations. SARS was bad, but this SARS-Cov-2 seems to have had additional multipliers added to its structure. Fine tuning that seems wasn’t to be. And then there are the masks that are no masks and then they are. Of course, there are those that at least keep the flies out of open mouths. The cats out of the bag on this one. Now, to the rats it catches when teamed up with Jack Russel’s to ferret out the sly and treacherous types that seek positions of power believing they’ve out-foxed the cleverest.

  11. We’ve touched upon this idea but I don’t think we are really seeing what may be going on right now with all this. I suspect what we are witnessing worldwide right now is full blown warfare. AI simulations keep showing conventional leads to nuclear and nuclear leads to mutual destruction of everybody. But I suspect many world leaders don’t even know that they are in full blown warfare right now from a simulation that was run with the best chance for success. It is a slow burning war like a frog in a kettle where by the time most world leaders find out what is really happening it will be too late. This war has globalist strong holds in their enemies ranks that make this possible. But it is not meant to stay this way I suspect, and the real hard hitting strikes are planned to be launched when every ones guard is down and the stage is set for maximum return for the decisive strike. I suspect that strike will be biological.

    1. We don’t recognize it because there has never been a war like the one we are witnessing right now; but if this is indeed going down then make no mistake nukes are on the table if this fails. Nukes might be on the table right now, just strategically after bio, social, weather, and energy manipulate nano-bio-chemical.

    2. I would like to respond to your comment about AI simulations.
      I wonder if the COVID madness was spun up because some privileged folks were “inspired” by a view of a model output that foretold catastrophe if measures to reduce consumption and vaunted productivity were not undertaken. For example, any guess on the percent of mammal biomass is wild mammal biomass?

      1. Humans account for about 36 percent of the biomass of all mammals. Domesticated livestock, mostly cows and pigs, account for 60 percent, and wild mammals for only 4 percent.

      2. Probably. A lot of junk science is and has been used to justify unpopular and unethical actions. But I suspect its not because of a natural disaster looming in the future I suspect it’s about world domination. A lot of powerful, more ethical people near the top probably now realize they have been lied to about the science, justification, and goals. That’s one faction of this conflict over who is going to really lead this NWO I suspect.

  12. see also the statistics from the European mortality monitoring, which after several weeks of commentary were suddenly changed. I also understood that in the public numbers from the Netherlands the authorities included an “expected number of deaths”. What can we still be;ieve. However themain and really main question remains if a virus can be transmitted via the so called germ theory or is it the terrain theory which is the truth. If the germ theory is false then all policies based on transmission are useless and fraud.

  13. Not the “new normal” for media, telling the truth. The normal lying press choir, rarely steps-up to even a human level.
    How in hell could a human vote for “masked forever”? A brainless zombie society, hungry for real thought, just might? Those hungry voting zombies could then identify real humans
    w/juicy brains; they’re wearing no masks.

    Even a rooster, like Foghorn Leghorn knows:
    “I say, I say …, I say …, It just don’t ADD-UP!!!”

    1. LOL. Love the Foghorn Leghorn reference. I’ve always considered Trump to be a “narcissistic loud mouthed snook” but the lesser of two evils by a long shot (Queue the “Lessor of two Weevils” story).

  14. Can’t speak for every case but my friend died yesterday from covid-19. He had diabetes but the diabetes didn’t kill him. He was handling the diabetes. A healthcare worker at his house got it first and was hospitalized for a week and recovered. His wife got it and could barely breath for a couple days but recovered. She thought she might die a few times but was scared to go to the hospital or even get tested. My friend got it and it became viral pneumonia and he was hospitalized because he could barely breath and died of a heart attack. I have no doubt if it wasn’t for the virus he would still be alive. But we can’t shut the economy down for the most vulnerable; but the most vulnerable are not taking it serious enough because of alternative media saying its a hoax. His wife said they all quit taking precautions and that’s when they all got it. It’s a bad virus from what I hear and if you are in good health you will likely beat it if your not watch out.

    1. This may be a sign they released event two, a new and improved virus just when everyone’s guard is down. I’m watching the numbers closely for the beginning of event two.

    2. Roger, sorry to hear about your friend. I wonder how the hydroxychloroquine + zinc + azithromycin combination would have worked on your friend, if administered early enough. The azithromycin is an antibiotic to get rid of opportunistic infections while the body is vulnerable because of the white-cell-induced cytokine storm. (HCL is supposed to help by partially-inhibiting those white cells.) We may have a war ‘crimes tribunal’ after this is done for those who intentionally-blocked that protocol…
      https://www.zerohedge.com/political/gop-senators-demand-fda-explain-hydroxychloroquine-stance-amid-positive-studies-and

      1. I’m starting to look more at mycoplasma. It’s considered to be bacteria without cell wall. From what I can glean, it shares (and maybe is at times) the same as fungi. Which gets me looking at folk like Joe Tippens and Care Oncology, more and more seriously. And people like them.

        I’m also starting to think this is why Rockheads and Gates of Hell have no concern over Fuku,Chernobyl or any other radiation. Zinc Ionophores might be the better part of how they know that radiation sickness is only a problem for their less well informed slave societies.

      2. Thanks Goshawks. Something kept nagging at me to call him the past couple weeks. I believe I told him months ago about zinc and two liters of tonic water a day but I suspect it went through one ear and out the other. He was high risk if he got the virus, had to take water pills to keep from retaining too much water in his body and lungs. The virus seems to be a very bad viral bronchitus that leads to viral pneumonia in some people. I suspect I got a SARS type virus in Pensacola a few years ago that may have been released as well and those who got it might be the ones resistant to this one if they are not indeed the same virus. That other virus was also deadly to those who had serious conditions to manage. Things are changing drastically for us all; we all can feel it. But it’s up to us if it’s going to be positive or negative when all is said and done. They can do their worst to us but then it will be our turn to choose to take it or bring them to justice. If we choose justice then we can look forward to a just and bright future. If we take it and accept their will for us then we deserve the hell they bring. Perhaps those of us who don’t make it will be the lucky ones when all is said and done. It’s in my nature to fight for a better future so that is what I will be doing to the end.

    3. Roger, I am sorry to hear about your friend as well. I so much wish they would allow doctors to try some kind of treatment, like HCQ etc., other than whatever they’re doing to sick people right now.

    1. This was a reply to Goshawks. I think the motorcycle death was Florida. It was ironic to hear coroner announce death was motorcucle and when questioned by reporter why it got listed as cv, he stammered. Said that they had argued alot on that one. Got corrected off camera ‘discussed’ and he said discussed. Then he coted that cv could have caused the crash. Clearly he did not like the pravda stick the off camera person had up his butt.

      When i dogpiled ‘death motorcycle covid, got a surprise. Found more stories of similar.

      1. ZDB, thanks for the reminder. I had a good friend with cancer go into hospice a few years back. It is hard…

        On the local news tonight, a 55-year-old with pre-existing diabetes serious enough to be on insulin came down with VC (through his offspring). He sickened and was taken to the hospital. He is now in a coma and on a ventilator. Given that, he is probably a dead man. Sigh..

        So, there is a population vulnerable to CV, through pre-existing vulnerabilities. Be aware of them and don’t be irresponsible, even though this is not a world-class epidemic…

        1. Family and decades in healthcare bring the phrase, “old guys friend” to mind. That’s what we call pneumonia. That is usually what takes everyone who puts up a fight on a number of chronic degenerative disease fronts. Eventually it comes down to pneumonia.

          BTW, that’s how most ventilator deaths occur. Ventilators induce pneumonia. That’s why they are a desperate measure – used to buy time not cure.

          What we are looking at is almost certainly nothing new to healthcare – except that now it has a name and a whole brand and bureaucracy attached to it.

          That is why so many health care pros are so cynical about this. I believe there is some thing causing a disease that leads to a number of nasty symptoms eventually horrific pneumonia. I do not believe there is anything novel about it, nor that it’s the single cause of this or anything.

          I do believe that the standard of care forced on docs by regulators bent on following CCP requirements was the exact opposite of what needed to be done. Docs like Kyle Cameron Sydell figured that out fairly quickly – within days of practice. Just like we all knew immediately that quarantining the healthy was the exact opposite of a good idea.

  15. Just finished an online employer mandated course on Covid 19. It is through an organization called Public Entity Partners that offers online safety training. In it under “Problematic Behavior” is listed ‘failure to use PPE’, along with ‘Unnecessary risk taking’ and ‘refusal to follow orders or leave a scene’. They also talk about mental health and one of the experiences you may have is ‘Caution Fatigue’….one of the symptoms of this mental health issue – ‘increased likelihood of taking risks like not wearing PPE’. I would laugh it is weren’t so mind numbingly mind washing.

    1. Right. Twenty years ago I was working for a major utility company in a major California city.Required to attend a safety awareness meeting, or somesuch name.

      Surrounded by PHDs, scientists, grads of Harvard, Yale, etc. (I was a self-taught dropout hired to do the work that needed to be done_ )

      Had to sign in as proof of attendance, but soon left and returned to my pressing tasks as nothing of import ensued beyond advice on how to look both ways before crossing the street.

      Tremendous waste of resources, but some folks along the way got paid a hefty fee for mandated training sessions in the manner of a third grader lecturing a college grad. Govment mandated training.

      Then I thought “what is this world coming to?”

      In recent times I found out.

    2. I imagine the perversity of the corporate world was on full display. No doubt listening to Public Entity Partners was a pitch-perfect, well practiced delivery of a message straight out of the handbook, penned in equal measure by grief counselors and legal advisors.
      The gathering of mandatory employees being supplemented by a random collection of people who sat on either end of the coming invoice. They probably even unveiled the darling of their corporatized world: whiteboarding. the truest signal to everyone that there’s some serious strategizing going on.

      It’s the process that has value[can be billed]
      not the output[empty results].

      One has to marvel at how
      nothingness can be worth so much[invoiced].

    3. Interesting (or disturbing) to hear the training included the psychology angle! Anybody remember those news stories suggesting you might be a psychopath if you don’t wear a mask? It’s like they’re paving the way to make people believe “vaccine deniers” are psycho and need to be re-educated or locked up.
      https://www.zerohedge.com/political/if-you-dont-wear-mask-you-might-be-psychopath-survey-finds
      https://www.psypost.org/2020/06/psychopathic-traits-linked-to-non-compliance-with-social-distancing-guidelines-amid-the-coronavirus-pandemic-56980

  16. As Origen mentioned, this topic has been around for a while, starting with Italy, the first western country to be scamdemicked. Official statistics of the country’s National Health Institute have consistently shown “covid-only” cause of death to be as low as 1-3% with the others involving co-morbidities, as the jargon has it. These figures are based on the analysis of actual clinical records.
    Since this was not alarming enough, they set up parallel “official figures”, according to which anyone previously recorded as “having previously had covid” (with the usual co-morbidities) but recovered, and who leaves this earth now, is recorded as a “covid death” by default. The updated equivalent of “heart failure”. Family members are now undertaking legal action on this point.
    And there are of course financial scams linked to this.
    As Catherine always says, as the institutions become more untrustworthy, people will at some point reject them en masse.

  17. The “announcement” by the CDC has been a known commodity since March in some circles. I’ve ranted to my Congressmen (both Senate and House) about this waste, fraud and abuse training members of my family MUST take annually that discusses penalties for this behavior–only to have it “encouraged” by state and local officials to “beef up” payments from government agencies to “pay” essential services for their continued participation. Don’t get me wrong–I do believe people should be paid for essential services. But lying to do so is still fraud–I don’t care who is doing it. If this is the type of behavior the CDC and government agencies are going to encourage DHHS, CMS and all government agencies with continuing education polices against waste, fraud and abuse should cease and desist immediately. Continuing these unfunded federal mandates now would be a huge waste of time, the biggest fraud against justice ever perpetuated and the greatest abuse of power from any government agency ever. If this behavior was illegal 12 months ago it should be illegal now!!! Now, I’ll yield back my time to the chairman of this committee.

    1. Now, if this legislation was considered seriously, we’re facing the largest set of prosecutions for Waste, Fraud and Abuse this country has ever seen in the history of publicly funded healthcare. I’m not counting on that. The largest casualty in this issue is not only truth and justice–but the role of the whistleblower.

  18. The numbers are fabricated. This has been apparent for a while. A UK study was published back in June/July which showed that only 1000 or so people out of 20,000 odd counted as covertid deaths had no co-morbidities. The thing they are counting is ‘mentions’ of cv on the death cert. which is not at all the same as someone dying from cv. They are receiving extra funds where they record cv on a death cert. They’re also double counting where the underlying cause is respiratory disease like pneumonia etc. In the US, they get extra $ for a positive test and big payout if someone is put on a vent; I saw a fig of $39000. This corruption is widespread. The Belarus President has been targeted as he refused to impose a lockdown in return for a big IMF payout with the result that “protesters” were let loose by way of proxy war; the standard issue Soros op for regime change. Question is where (or who) is all the money coming from ?? It reminds me of the Russian woman that JPF mentioned a while back who had money in the “trillions”. I am sure that her ilk would regard total global control as something really worth spending those trillions on.

    1. Absolutely agree! Months back when I heard of the financial gain for hospitals for the CV diagnosis, I knew that the numbers would climb…all about the $$. I read the same about the payout for ventilator patients and, as I recall, it was $13,000 for every positive. So, of course EVERYONE tested is going to be positive.

    2. Salient points.

      All the money is coming from communist China. They are even funding Soros. They are behind Antifa, BLM, Biden, Democrats and current UK government. Imperial College London who inflated the figures and said many would die is funded by communist China party – all their kids go there to university as well.

      China is the super power at the moment. Let’s hope not for long.

      1. The online course I talk about above listed Imperial College London as one of it’s sources for data, along with Hong Kong University and UC Berkley International Computer Science Institute….and of course CDC and WHO. According to this course, Imperial College London says that more than 40% of those infected have no symptoms. Would love to know how they came up with that.

  19. Two stories demonstrating the problem (can’t remember who reported them): A young man died in a motorcycle accident. He was reported as dying of CV. A hospice nurse was taking care of an elderly lady dying from cancer. The nurse reported that, when the lady died, she was pressured to put CV as the cause of death. She still wrote cancer on the form, but was unsure how it was finally reported. (There was a third story from JS out of Mexico where a boy was brought in with a broken arm. He died, under somewhat suspicious circumstances, and was pronounced dead from CV.)

    So, we have a problem with whether the original data has been falsified to some unknown percentage. The fact that this has been reported/implied across the country suggests that there are deeper motives in play…

    1. Another report was that whenever a hospital used oxygen therapy on a patient (there are many elderly who need this), the patient was listed as a CV death. (This was not on a ventilator; just using an oxygen tube.) I can’t remember whether this was one or a few hospitals, or a widespread practice.

      Plus, there was reportedly a ‘bounty’ of $30,000 from somewhere if hospitals reported a patient’s death as CV-related versus an ordinary death. No conflict-of-interest there…

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