A SERIOUSLY SPECULATIVE LOOK AT CERES

It's been a long time since anyone sent me a picture of something "up there" that really captures my high octane speculation mind, and accordingly, it's been a long time since I've had one of those blogs that's more about a picture than about an article. But when V.T. sent this article, full of pictures, one in particular jumped out at me, and I think you'll see why:

NASA shares its first discoveries about a mysterious ocean world in our Solar System

The article is itself an enjoyable "conventional science" look at Ceres, the largest, and first, asteroid discovered. On its own, that "conventional science" view of Ceres is entertaining and a bit provocative as well. We learn all sorts of interesting stuff: scientists have re-classified Ceres from an asteroid to a dwarf planet since it possesses 25% of the estimated mass of the whole asteroid belt. There may be oceans under its surface, it's largely made up of carbon and ammonia and a variety of minerals, and might be able to sustain life. And, it's close to Jupiter, so imagine looking up in the "night" sky and seeing the gigantic planet illuminating the little planetoid. We learn that it was hit by a "something" about 22 million years ago, and so on.

All in all, it's the kind of article one expects. It's bland, enjoyable, gives us some wonderful vistas of a far-off little world, and may be 100% correct.

But then there's this picture:

Ceres surface(?)

When I looked closely at this, several anomalies jumped out at me, many of which might be signs of artificial structure on or just under the surface of the little planetoid:

There's lots going on in this picture, but I've selected six (and there are more, if one looks closely) which are crudely marked in my crudely hand-drawn arrows above. The first, and most obvious thing that I noticed - and one can hardly miss it - is the rectangular, nearly square lines to the left of the picture, with its nearly perfect straight lines and ninety degree corners. Even in the center of that rectangle there are four craters, which while somewhat out of alignment with the rectangle, are close to being another square, as if meteor impacts had somehow "targeted" some thing or things that used to be there. But its the rectangle itself that intrigues: how does standard planetoid geology produce that? Not surprisingly, the article doesn't say. In fact, it says little at all about this picture... it's just there. Indeed, we don't even know, from the article, if we're even looking at Ceres at all, I'm just assuming we are. But whatever we're looking at, when one considers the implications, it's stunning and breathtaking.

Immediately above number 1, I've drawn a second arrow pointing to two more or less straight lines that appear to converge on another crater. Again, what geological processes might account for this I do not know, but when confronted by pictures like this, never underestimate the ability of scientists to come up with some story to explain it in purely conventional and natural terms. However, to this hack-from-South Dakota, it looks as if some structure, tunnels perhaps, have collapsed beneath the surface. (There, I said it). Then, looking underneath number 1 at number three, the arrow points to a line of craters that proceeds in a more or less straight line. Again, I don't doubt that after millions of years of meteor impacts, straight lines of them might be formed randomly,  except that here we are looking at a region of a planet surface that has relatively few crater impacts. So, I'll walk right to the end of the high octane speculation twig once again, and say that what this reminds me of are those World War Two aerial photo reconnaissance pictures that were taken after Allied bombing runs over Germany, with the bombs making more or less straight lines following the flight paths of the airplanes that delivered them. To the right of this, at arrow number 5, there appears to be another, longer, such line.

At arrow number four in the upper left corner, there's another odd feature that once again is a more or less straight line, and again looking like perhaps some structure beneath the surface has collapsed.

Finally, at arrow 6 in the lower right, one sees yet another rectangular feature outlined once again by two nearly parallel lines of craters, and to the top of that rectangle, yet another straight line looking like another collapse of something beneath the surface, with a small crater almost dead center on that line. The overall impression is, again, of those aerial reconnaissance photos of bombing runs... and that carries with it the nasty implication that we might be looking at deliberately inflicted damage from a precision bombardment of some sort. Meteors do not do this.

Now, here's the clincher: If I can see it, you can surely see it too. And if we can, you can bet your bottom dollar that the photo analysts can see it too, and while they're probably busily inventing ingenious conventional and "purely natural" explanations, they're probably thinking the same things that you and I are.

And that gives a unique twist to the whole idea of "asteroid mining," because some of that "mining" might be cover for extra-terrestrial archeology and perhaps even "archive and technology" recovery. Can you say "Cosmic War"?

See you on the flip side...

21 thoughts on “A SERIOUSLY SPECULATIVE LOOK AT CERES”

  1. Recent chemical research has researchers stating on the record – that is a big deal – that Ceres is oceanic. In my blogs for Dr. Farrell, I found Science Mag articles on clear evidence of past life on or in an Earth-like world. Now there is this:

    “We’ve provided strong evidence that Ceres is geologically active in the present, [or] at least in the very recent past,” Dawn’s lead investigator Carol Raymond, who manages the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory’s Small Bodies Program, tells National Geographic. “And there’s some tantalizing evidence that it could be ongoing.

    But with enough heat from impacts, the dwarf planet may have once been habitable, although it may not have actually been inhabited.

    “We’ve got this recent, warm, wet geologic system that has all the ingredients that we think you need for life,” Johns Hopkins University planetary geologist Kirby Runyon, who wasn’t involved with the research, tells National Geographic.” -Smithsonian

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/nasa-mission-shows-dwarf-planet-ceres-geologically-active-180975553/

    Other credible research suggests that Ceres is about a million years old, the amount of time it would take for a large chunk of the fourth planet to become round.

    I look at these photos and compare them to Mesopotamian aerial photos. What we are looking at is the partial remains of a town.

    My working model is that this is a remnant chunk of Tiamat/Krypton. I go further than Dr. F. If the Enima Elish is in fact an epic of a war in space so long ago, as is Dr. F’s argued speculation, then Ceres could well be the planetized remnant of 6%+- 3% of the mass of that planet. After a million years, the chunk would cool and gravity would make it round.

    The top civilian astronomer of the Naval Observatory, Dr. T Van Flandern (d. 2004), stated in the year of his death that his super computer calculations showed that the planet “broke apart violently” 3.0 MYA. He also stated that Mars, with its highly elliptical orbit, was a satellite of this planet, set free when the planet exploded, blasted in the face by the event, resulting in a mile of debris plastering an entire hemisphere of Mars, which like a dreidel spun several times in an unstable manner and then flipped so that the debris face became centered around its South Pole. NASA Curiosity suspiciously landed at Gale Crater, which was right on the dividing line between the northern “lowlands” and the southern “highlands.” Was it able to test the geochemistry of both places? Yes. If it WAS Tiamat debris, they already know.

    Just imagine the tragedy of the Mars/Tiamat system. Two blue balls in space, one Saturn-massed, floating like jewels in space. Imagine Iapetus pulling up into orbit along with reflectors, and adding standing wave resonance, day after day, the energy with no where to go, until “the weapon that has no equal” drove a beam of energy using the static electricity built up by the planetary standing waves, and “strove a stake into Tiamat’s heart, piercing it.”

    I am prayerful and grieved by the loss of millions or billions of beings, some highly intelligent, even genetic cousins perhaps, being torn to shreds in a war long ago, and in a galaxy very close to home.

  2. BILLY CARSON of 4biddenknowledge had a group of friends who carefully examined photos from Mars & they found all sorts of exciting things!!

    Not a surprise our Doc would find something on Ceres!!

  3. In addition to whatever ‘forces’ caused the Titius–Bode “Law” to be so accurate about forecasting a planet right where the asteroid belt lies now, I like to think of Vesta. This little asteroid is almost solid nickel-iron. It had to have been the Core of a sizeable body which was large enough to have substantial heat-of-formation and that had the heavier elements ‘fall’ to the center – just like a good-sized planet. Later, it was destroyed in some manner, with just the core left (which has been whittled-away with further hits).

    (Mercury is much like this on a bigger scale: Today, it has a ‘supersized’ core compared to the other rocky planets. Some suggest an Encounter in the distant past which stripped-away much of the crust & mantle.)

    So, did this ancient planet have any moons? Ceres is about the right size for a moon of a sizable planet. And unlike a planet’s remains (from a Boom of some nature) which would spread-out through space and get ‘lost’ in one manner or another, a moon of that planet would probably hang-together and just take-up a Sun-centered orbit at the same distance.

    The big thing then is whether that planet was ‘occupied’ and had outposts on Ceres. The Boom would have removed their source of supply, and possibly pelted Ceres with assorted debris. The situation for the Ceres survivors would have been grave (sorry). Whether they just died-in-place or made their way to another planet (Mars or Earth) would be a function of their level of technology…

  4. Totally off-topic (and haven’t read the article yet), but I had to share this. I ‘follow’ an earthquake map put-out by the US Geological Service:
    https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/?currentFeatureId=us6000bzt0&extent=-58.07788,-278.61328&extent=65.80278,0.87891
    Today, there was a listing of a minor 3.1 earthquake in mid-England. Since England doesn’t get too many earthquakes, I looked-up the place: 3 km west of Wingrave at a depth of 10 km.

    Looking-up Wingrave at Wikipedia, there is an interesting entry:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wingrave
    “Architecture: Around the recreation ground and in other parts of the village are many houses and cottages of varying sizes, constructed in Tudor Revival style, erected by Hannah de Rothschild in the 19th century. These houses, which display her personal cypher ‘H de R’ were homes for estate employees. They remained part of the Mentmore Estate until well into the 20th century and are very sought after today, commanding a very high price.

    The old village school was also funded by Hannah De Rothschild and was opened by William Gladstone*, the prime minister of the day. It remained as the village school until just before the Second World War, when it closed when a new larger school was built. It was then used as the village hall until 1976, when it was converted into two fantastic houses extremely sought after for its historic features and history.” (my italics)

    Under Hannah, we find:
    “Hannah Primrose, Countess of Rosebery (née de Rothschild; 27 July 1851 – 19 November 1890) was the daughter of Baron Mayer de Rothschild and his wife Juliana (née Cohen). After inheriting her father’s fortune in 1874, she became the richest woman in Britain. In 1878, Hannah de Rothschild married Archibald Primrose, 5th Earl of Rosebery, and was thereafter known as the Countess of Rosebery.

    During the final quarter of the 19th century her husband, the Earl of Rosebery, was one of the most celebrated figures in Britain, an influential millionaire and politician, whose charm, wit, charisma and public popularity gave him such standing that he ‘almost eclipsed royalty’. Yet his Jewish wife, during her lifetime regarded as dull, overweight and lacking in beauty, remains an enigmatic figure largely ignored by historians…” (my italics)

    This page says “(Redirected from Hannah de Rothschild)”. When you click on that to get to her main page, it brings-up essentially a blank page. So, “Someone” is working Very Hard to keep her obscure. In Miles Mathis terminology, this is a Red Flag.

    To have a noticeable “earthquake” so close to Ground Zero of a ‘domain’ of a major Rothschild figure is interesting…

    (Tracing lineage through the female side is especially important for them, so this is doubly interesting…)
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    * “He is the only British prime minister to have been of Jewish birth…” (wiki)

    1. Also interesting, since the Wingate residences were to ‘service’ the Mentmore estate:
      https://family.rothschildarchive.org/estates/42-mentmore-towers
      “In 1850, Nathan’s son Mayer Amschel (1818-1874) bought the Manor of Mentmore for £12,400 and commissioned Joseph Paxton and his son-in-law George Stokes to build him a house. … Mentmore Towers… is the largest of the English Rothschild houses. … Mayer died in 1874, leaving Mentmore to his only child, Hannah (1851-1890). Hannah later married Lord Rosebery, and the house remained in the Rosebery family until it was put on the market in 1977.

    2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mentmore_Towers
      “Mentmore was the first of what were to become virtual Rothschild enclaves in the Vale of Aylesbury. Baron Mayer de Rothschild began purchasing land in the area in 1846. Later, other members of the family built houses at Tring in Hertfordshire, Ascott, Aston Clinton, Waddesdon and Halton.”

      “The possible purchase of Mentmore for the nation through the government’s National Land Fund was the desire of Roy Strong, the director of the V&A, who hoped that Mentmore would become a ‘branch’ of his museum… The government refused to spend such large sums from the fund, and the sale fell through.”

      “The house has appeared in many films, including Terry Gilliam’s Brazil (1985)…” (appropriate)

      It sounds like the Powers did not want the mansion in gov’t hands, since they would ultimately control the gov’t purses. Also, according to the original article, the Wingrave residences remain in private hands…

        1. From the end of the BBC article:
          “Mr Ford said: ‘It’s not an unusual thing to be seen in the UK… this relieves the built-up stress in the rocks.’ … ‘It’s typical British tectonic activity that’s been going on for hundreds of years.'”

          There is ‘relieving’ of the crust from the glacial loads of the last Ice Age. This map shows how southern England was never under the ice:
          https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/04/16/4CE8077D00000578-5803855-image-a-38_1528127287273.jpg

          So, the BBC’s carefully-stated “British” and “UK” earthquake generalities, while true, are likely untrue for earthquakes in southern England. But, the average reader is unlikely to know that…

  5. Never occurred to me to think of asteroid mining in terms of paleoarcheology and looking for ancient tech. Great catch!! I’ll wager it’s more than speculation.

  6. Perspective works wonders beyond most presumptions pareidolia phenomenon might instigate in the mind’s eye.

    That Dawn spacecraft sent back some interesting closeups that expanded on several bright spots on the surface of Ceres. There are snippets of it on NASA’s web pages. What looks like something percolating up through the surface yielding “bright spots” on the surface NASA scientists suggest that, “By analyzing data collected near the end of the mission, Dawn scientists have concluded that the liquid came from a deep reservoir of brine, or salt-enriched water. By studying Ceres’ gravity, scientists learned more about the dwarf planet’s internal structure and were able to determine that the brine reservoir is about 25 miles (40 kilometers) deep and hundreds of miles wide.” So they theorize, anyway.

    https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/mystery-solved-bright-areas-on-ceres-come-from-salty-water-below

    It’s interesting that Ceres is round like the Moon or planet which is suggestive of theorized planet formation. Whether any current mining or resource exploration on the surface is ongoing and worth quadrillions is another potential chapter.

    Then again, what else was found out about Ceres and Vesta that isn’t mentioned?

  7. Proto moon?
    Then there’s Earth’s Moon; Mar’s Phobos; and God knows how many other artificial satellites replete throughout “our” solar system. Certainly speaks to the by gone era of ancient civilizations living and constructing throughout the solar system. And dare I say, the eventual Cosmic War that took place?

    Asteroid mining’s true golden nuggets are going to be it’s archeological ancient technological treasures. Did I use future tense? Should it had been past tense?
    Whoever/Whatever finds them marks them; accordingly –
    For “our” eyes only.

    Now there’s a space race worth weaponizing.
    Will these golden nuggets; then, become private property?
    They could lease out this ancient tech in an AI Deere[tractor] protocol, making money on all sides; and making sure some get the special formula orders.
    The permeation of power, money, and control of space are .. ?
    Mastercard priceless. Owning the definition of what space is, itself.
    All you need is a secret space/finance program on Earth to get a head start; and the rest is history. Or, an agreed upon space fable, written by the breakaway civilization.

    Whose on first?[the technology to take ET home]
    Or, what’s been on first?[some form of AI]

    Reminds one of Earth’s real history;
    not the – Columbus sailed the oceans blue in 1492.
    But, something like the Venetian version.

  8. If we follow that logic and pay attention to ancient texts, we might conclude that war wasn’t concluded and a promised return may be imminent. Hence the weaponization of space and space forces.
    Couple that with the current condition of our Solar system and a possible upcoming catastrophic event within it and you might conclude a more appropriate time could not present itself for that return.
    If the nature of that return rests on the current trend of events on Earth, we may find ourselves in a bit of a pickle.
    We may have been in this position before in the distant past, possibly more than once. Once again we find ourselves doomed to repeat not only the distant past but our own recent past as well. We seem to be slow learners.

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