CONCERNING NASA’S “INGENUITY” MARS HELICOPTER
This is a strange story, one that, perhaps, raises some questions. It was shared by a few regular readers of this website, and concern's NASA's "Ingenuity helicopter," a light weight Mars probe that, in effect, is a helicopter drone designed to fly in the very thin Martian atmosphere:
The first helicopter on Mars phones home after Perseverance rover landing
Everything to know about NASA's Mars Ingenuity helicopter — the first to fly on another planet
Situation Update, Feb. 23 – The COSMIC WAR against human civilization
It's the third article, that from Natural News, that raises the question that was on everyone's mind who sent me the article:
NASA just announced they’ve landed a helicopter on Mars. Known as Ingenuity, the helicopter is now “reporting” from the Red Planet and, we are told, is flying around there. (See Space.com article here.)
The obvious problem with this news, of course, is that Mars has virtually no atmosphere according to official NASA figures, which state the Mars atmosphere is 0.6% the pressure of Earth’s atmosphere. Notably, helicopters can’t fly in a near-vacuum, even in the lower Mars gravity (which is 38% of Earth’s gravity, roughly).
So either NASA is completely lying to us about a helicopter on Mars, or Mars actually has a much thicker atmosphere than 0.6%. For a helicopter to be able to fly around on Mars, the atmosphere would have to be thick enough to breathe, assuming the atmospheric chemistry were compatible with whatever being was engaged in respiration.
But if one reads the CBS article, there's a partial explanation:
Ingenuity is essentially a test flight — it's experimenting with flight on another planet for the first time, and has limited capabilities. It weighs only about 4 pounds, but its success will no doubt pave the way for more ambitious exploration of the red planet.
Mars' thin atmosphere, which is 99% less dense than Earth's, will make it difficult for Ingenuity to achieve enough lift to properly fly. Because of this, it has been designed to be extremely lightweight. It stands just 19 inches tall.
The helicopter has four large carbon-fiber blades, fashioned into two rotors that span about 4 feet and spin in opposite directions at about 2,400 rpm — significantly faster than typical helicopters on Earth. (Boldface emphasis added)
It's not only the lightweight that I suspect is at the heart of Ingenuity's success, but those rapidly spinning counter-rotating blades. The famous Russian Tupolev-95 "Bear" bomber, Russia's version of the B-52 strategic bomber, and like the B-52, in service continuously since the 1950s, is by most reports capable of a maximum altitude of about 40,000 feet, remarkable, because the Bear bomber is a prop-driven aircraft, utilizing a design of counter-rotating propellers (a design, incidentally, of German origin). Granted, the air at 40,000 feet is still denser than the almost non-existent Martian atmosphere, but nonetheless, that's a remarkable achievement for a propeller driven aircraft, particularly such a large one, and counter-rotation of the propeller blades is one reason it is able to accomplish such an altitude. One may infer that the Tupolev's maximum altitude is probably even higher.
So, unlike those who sent this story to me and who raised a similar question as that of Natural News, I do not have difficulty believing that the little Ingenuity helicopter may be able to fly around Mars. In fact, the little helicopter was apparently successfully tested in Martian-like atmospheric and gravity conditions. (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Helicopter_Ingenuity where we read "In 2019, preliminary designs of Ingenuity were tested on Earth in simulated Mars atmospheric and gravity conditions. For flight testing, a large vacuum chamber was used to simulate the very low atmospheric pressure of Mars – filled with carbon dioxide to approximately 0.60% of standard atmospheric pressure at sea level on Earth – which is roughly equivalent to a helicopter flying at 34,000 m (112,000 ft) altitude in the atmosphere of Earth. In order to simulate the much reduced gravity field of Mars, 62% of Earth's gravity was offset by a line pulling upwards during flight tests.")
I suspect, rather, that there's a very different story here than that of any NASA conspiracy to obfuscate the level of atmospheric pressure on Mars, and I suspect that story has very much to do with the long-term implications of Ingenuity. As the Wikipedia story indicates, Ingenuity is a "proof-of-concept" experiment, which now appears to have been successful:
Ingenuity is designed to be a technology demonstrator by JPL to assess whether this technology can fly safely, and provide better mapping and guidance that would give future mission controllers more information to help with travel routes planning and hazard avoidance, as well as identifying points of interest for the rover. The helicopter is designed to provide overhead images with approximately ten times the resolution of orbital images, and will provide images of features that may be occluded from the cameras of the Perseverance rover. It is expected that such scouting may enable future rovers to safely drive up to three times as far per sol. (Boldface emphasis added)
In other words, imagine scaling Ingenuity up, to a scale that it could support a variety of cameras and sensors, with "overhead images approximately ten times the resolution of orbital images," and you get the picture, so to speak. Given all the strange stuff - from things that look like fossils to things that look not only machined but like machines - that has been photographed by satellites and surface probes on Mars, it would appear that the real story behind Ingenuity is that NASA wants to get a "closer look" at that strange stuff. In other words, stay tuned... there's more to come.
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At the same time…
A 4 foot rotor turning at 2400 rpm is perfectly reasonable. Light aircraft propellers are 5 to 6 feet in diameter and are typically operated between 2000 and 2700 rpm. Propeller RPM is normally limited by the speed of the propeller tips which needs to be below about 0.9 mach to be efficient. A full sized helicopter rotor turns at a much lower rpm due to the much larger diameter of the rotor.
Mars….Smaars!! We have had a base on Mars since the 80’s; at least!! I remember one Wh.bl. telling how he had to wear a bio-suit & how when it snowed, the birds would come out of a cave. There were battles between the various ones who had bases there & if they could get to a wounded warrior in time to save even a smidgen piece, that warrior could be “remade”!! Talk about tech that has been hidden from us!!!
Another Wh.bl told of going into an elevator, was told to press a certain button & when the door opened on the opposite side,,,,,he was on Mars!! When will this illusion we live in FINALLY be smashed?!!
Billy Carson has excellent photos of what has been found on Mars. For any wishing an update on our present situation….check out Martin Geddes latest newsletter!! He puts things in a concise & logical manner!!
Don’t you love old photos? I remember in the late seventies Venus photos showed it to be a blue water world which got people all excited so they claimed that was just the result of a filter they used and it was really cloudy sulfuric yellow looking. Mars looks to have quite the dynamic atmosphere according to Hubble. http://www.twoplanetsteel.com/images/news/Mars.seasonal.comparison.jpg
Could be the Russians set off an experimental neutron bomb on Venus which caused it to resurface and change colors. You deffinately would not want to test it on Earth and it was the seventies and the cold war still raged. Russia was sending all kinds of stuff to Venus while the west distracted us with Mars.
I expect the Russians were clearing out Maria Orsic’s ‘Space Brothers’ Nazi outpost on Venus. Only half joking…
Must have been fun matching blade span, width, pitch, rotation rate per minute, and material construction on that craft to gain a calculated height off the surface of very low atmospheric density.
um, the meme zeitgeist has jumped many sharks.
Also, is the calvary coming or is this more hopium like the Bolshevik’s Operation Trust?
Thanks for the link ZDB!
More & more moves like these worldwide; will create a tidal change
Mr. Globaloney will be caught naked in, as the tide moves outwards.
2020 saw humanity being set an Advanced Gullibility Test – which it passed with flying colours! BUT public opinion is a supertanker… and if it starts to turn…
Apparently the funny pages have move to the front folds of the news.
Turn on the news; read the headlines; all are comical; in that they want you, to take them seriously. Talk about crazy conspiracies!
Just read, and/or watch the news!
You’ve got to wonder?
Do they actually believe their own press?
Wonder if that drone is going to do a flyby Cydonia and have another look at that face…….whoops
Capricon One anyone though I have never seen the movie I saw a made for tv movie variant about a man Mars mission gone bad where the astronaut dies and NASA has to use a body double to cover up his death. Given all the endemic lying and making things up in this society do we really know what is true and real anymore as Richard Hoagland says NASA stands for never a straight answer. As one of the commentators on this post has written NASA may be using suppress technology to make the Marscopter work in that thin atmosphere.
If we find Mars has no life I propose we introduce lichens and bacteria that will release nitrogen gas from the Martian soil and convert CO2 to oxygen. https://www.astrobio.net/extreme-life/lichen-on-mars/
I for one don’t think Mars ever had standing water in it’s past unless a meteor crashed into a glacier or volcanism in the past erupted under a polar glacier. Not enough gravity or atmosphere. Now Venus I suspect had life, and not too long ago cosmoligically speaking anyways. And I would begin terra forming it rather than Mars. First I would introduce high temp and pressure tollerant sulfur loving bacteria. Maybe a GMO created one that would rapidly multiply and cover the surface of Venus and begin breaking down sulfuric acid and CO2 as well as release nitrogen gas.
I suppose if Mars shifts enough in its rotation to where polar glaciers get more equatorial located they could melt during the day but would evaporate and get redeposited in the new polar surface location.
The video I saw looked like a Hollywood stage production. The videos attached to the article appear smaller. Call me cynical, but how do we even know these people are real scientists and not professional actors? Either that–or today’s scientist actually “looks” better than those of 50 years ago.
*Hat tip to Radio Far Side
Chan Thomas’ Adam and Eve Story talks about cyclical cataclysms caused by Stellar conditions (independently found by Paul la Violette and his super wave theory) inducing crustal displacement.
Earths ionosphere partially masks the early phase of these events, I’m guessing the thin atmosphere of Mars is the perfect place to measure this.
So the Mars missions might be about something altogether different than the standard story. Pretty pictures are a side show.
Nice catch. Reread this one. Seems like Ingenuity tech will get used above Earth more often. How long can a solar powered unit stay above 40k feet looking down getting and sending better and cheaper and quicker images than satellites orbiting higher?
We might speculate that the “Cosmic War” is still on (nothing new for Giza fans) and that this drone may actually have military purposes, with respect to parties currently present on Malacandra, whether hailing from Earth or from Elsewhere.
It sure is still on!
That’s a perspective I should have immediately thought of;
given how Mar’s moon Phobias seems to be somewhat deadly,
when certain parameters are crossed.
Trust the AI?
Trust the scientists/leadership on their perceptions?
How many actually decided mankind was obsolete;
and had to go the way of the Dodo?
An insane asylum is deciding the fate of mankind?
Or, believing antique AI’s: “Facts?; Futures?; Conclusions?; & What nots”.
Is the Mars “helicopter” using some Von Braun off-the-moon technology?
Your further explanations signal that the technology of counter rotation and other factors make this helicopter proof of concept believable.
…to be continued.
The Natural News story is The Story.
As if the posthuman AIs conclusions of mankind were a given.
B.S. in spades !!!
“Moon Shmoon” said Werner Von Braun.
The atmosphere over Devon Island is remarkably similar to that of the rest of the planet, and thus is unlikely to pose significant problems for the “Mars” drone aerofoils…. Perhaps we’ll eventually get some more excellent shots of the Arctic Lemming, fossil crinoids, or other elements indigenous to the highly restricted, largest uninhabited island in the world where Nasa “tests” its props.
Exciting stuff, but wonder if we’ll ever see the photos? They won’t even tell us what’s in Antarctica!
I had to dig up an old computer and boot it up to find this information for you, hope you like it.
You say “there’s a very different story here than that of any NASA conspiracy to obfuscate the level of atmospheric pressure on Mars,” but there is ample documentation that THAT is exactly what NASA has been doing for many years now.
Here’s a 223 page report on exactly that:
Here’s the abstract:
ABSTRACT: We present evidence that NASA is seriously understating Martian air pressure.
Our 10-year study critiques 2,676 Sols (~7.53 terrestrial years, 4 Martian years) of highly
problematic MSL Rover Environmental Monitoring Station (REMS) weather data, and offers
an in depth audit of over 8,311 hourly Viking 1 and 2 weather reports. We discuss analysis of
technical papers, NASA documents, and personal interviews of transducer designers. We
troubleshoot pressures based on radio occultation/spectroscopy, and the previously accepted
small pressure ranges that could be measured by Viking 1 and 2 (18 mbar), Pathfinder and
Phoenix (12 mbar), and MSL (11.5 mbar – altered to 14 mbar in 2017). For MSL there were
several pressures published from August 30 to September 5, 2012 that were from 737 mbar to
747 mbar – two orders of magnitude high – only to be retracted. We challenged many pressures
and NASA revised them down. However there are two pressure sensors ranges listed on a
CAD for Mars Pathfinder. We long thought the CAD listed two different sensors, but based
on specifications of a new Tavis sensor for InSight that is like that on PathFinder, it appears
that the transducer could toggle between two pressures ranges: 0-0.174 PSIA/12 mbar (Tavis
Dash 2) and 0-15 PSIA/1,034 mbar (Tavis Dash 1). Further, for the MSL according to an
Abstract to the American Geophysical Union for the Fall 2012 meeting, The Finnish
Meteorological Institute (FMI) states of their MSL (and Phoenix) Vaisala transducers, “The
pressure device measurement range is 0 – 1025 hPa in temperature range of -45°C – +55°C (-
45°C is much warmer than MSL night temperatures), but its calibration is optimized for the
Martian pressure range of 4 – 12 hPa.” So while we first thought that of the first five landers
that had meteorological suites, none could measure Earth-like pressures, in fact, three landers
were actually equipped to get the job. Further, all original 19 low UV values were removed
when we asked about them, although they eventually restored 12 of them. REMS always-sunny
opacity reports were contradicted by Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter photos. Why REMS Team
data was so wrong is a matter of speculation, but we demonstrate that their weather data was
regularly revised after they studied online critiques in working versions of this report. REMS
even labelled all dust 2018 Global Dust Storm weather as sunny, although they did list the UV
values then as all low.
Vikings and MSL showed consistent timing of daily pressure spikes which we link to how gas
pressure in a sealed container would vary with Absolute temperature, to heating by
radioisotope thermoelectric generators (RTGs), and to dust clots at air access tubes and dust
filters. Pathfinder, Phoenix and MSL wind measurements failed. Phoenix and MSL pressure
transducer design problems included confusion about dust filter location, and lack of
information about nearby heat sources due to International Traffic and Arms Regulations
(ITAR). NASA Ames could not replicate dust devils at 10 mbar. Rapidly filled MER Spirit
tracks required wind speeds of 80 mph at the assumed low pressures. These winds were never
recorded on Mars. Nor could NASA explain drifting Barchan sand dunes. Based on the above
and dust devils on Arsia Mons to altitudes of 17 km above areoid (Martian equivalent of sea
level), spiral storms with 10 km eye-walls above Arsia Mons and similar storms above
Olympus Mons (over 21 km high), dust storm opacity at MER Opportunity blacking out the
sun, snow that descends 1 to 2 km in only 5 or 10 minutes, excessive aero braking, liquid water
running on the surface in numerous locations at Recurring Slope Lineae (RSL) and stratus
clouds 13 km above areoid, we argue for an average pressure at areoid of ~511 mbar rather
than the accepted 6.1 mbar. This pressure grows to 1,050 mbar in the Hellas Basin.
And there’s tons more information available here:
Goes to show, without “the rest of the story” or facts, a narrative is easy to push. Any wonder why MSM abandoned using the who, what, where, when and why format for reporting news.
The rotors are window dressing. They’re probably using a smaller, refined version of the anti-grav that lifted the lunar lander off the surface of the moon without blowing out a small crater in the regolith.
So called JPL/NASA ‘scientists’ are wearing face masks in deference to Satan. There is zero science ‘data’ that supports covering your face. DO NOT follow these morons.
Both vacuum and water are oceans, (in heaven and on earth). Both “elements” are hostile to the individual. Likewise, a mob – being an ocean of people – is hostile to individuality.
Navigating oceans, is abandoning safety ashore, into overseas voyages. An island becomes an organized principle, born out of chaotic ocean of primordial waters.
Old English suffixes provide a seafarer’s map, for a chaos pilot to navigate, in natural state. Because suffixes provide an inner map of pilgrimage, they could be named “walking staffers”.
Tower of Babel is Paradise lost, when words fall apart, and mirror is broken.
TOPOLOGICAL METAPHOR IN OLD ENGLISH 5
Island is set apart, as Ea’s land,
contrasted by mainland,
in water surrounded
where it makes stand.
Ea is water spirit in Mesopotamia.