GERMAN RESEARCHERS IMPLANT AND ERASE FALSE MEMORIES
Yesterday, you might recall, I blogged an article where gamma wave patterns on electroencephalographs record peculiar patterns when false memories are recalled, and about the potential implications of this research both for the "metaphysics of the mind" so to speak, but also for the possibility of remotely influencing or even remotely causing memory creation or alteration. Along those lines, K.S. shared another article from RT about similar research being conducted in Germany:
German researchers create, then erase, false memories in people’s minds
There's quite a few things that caught my eye in this article, and they're the subject of today's high octane speculation. It is to be noted that unlike the research referred to in yesterday's blog, the techniques involved here do not include any hard technologies, but rather are based entirely on "soft" techniques. Consider the following statements which form the core of today's speculations:
A team of researchers in Germany has completed successful experiments in which they showcased how false memories can easily be planted and, more importantly, erased, with potentially serious implications for the justice system.The team, from the University of Hagen, Leibniz-Institut für Wissensmedien, Johannes Gutenberg Universität Mainz, and the University of Portsmouth conducted a series of memory experiments on volunteers over the course of several sessions.
They wanted to both confirm that it is possible to implant (or incept, if you will) false memories in the mind of a subject using certain psychological techniques and tricks that rely heavily on the power of suggestion through repetition, while also discovering to what extent these memories can be erased.
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The researchers then reinforced these false memories in the minds of the participants by asking the volunteers’ parents to play along and claim things happened exactly as described, including the additional, fictional elements.
This process was repeated over the course of multiple sessions to such a degree that many of the participants became convinced the accounts were, in fact, true and thus, a false memory was born.
Now all that remained was to extricate these false memories from the minds of the volunteers, which turned out to be almost as easy as implanting them had been.
They merely asked the volunteers to identify the source of the memory while highlighting the fact that false memories can be created through a process of repeated, elicited recall that itself can become a form of conditioning. (Boldface emphases added)
Note the following implications: (1) repetition, (2) reinforcement of the memory by creation of a false context that include supposedly confirmatory elements or testimonies, and (3) the ability to remove such memories by focusing the victim's intelligence on the source of the false memories. All of this implies something else, namely (4) the ability to erase real memories using all of the same techniques. Some people may recognize echoes of the strategies and tactics of Gnosticism that I outlined in my four volume work God, History, and Dialectic (available on Lulu), specifically with respect to the second of the elements mentioned: the creation of false contexts or testimonies giving confirmatory elements.
But what I want to focus upon here for the sake of our high octane speculation are precisely those first two elements, and their fusion with two other elements: mass media, and neuro-linguistic programming. For those familiar with the latter, it is possible to implant behavior patterns or memories by clever manipulation of what we'll call, for the sake of this speculation, a "deep text", that is to say, words occurring in a "surface text" that are weighted by reinforcement by some other means, such as a touch or other physical stimulation like a specific sound or tone, and so on. Thus weighted, these words become part of a "deep text" having little connection to the surface textual context in which they occur, and bearing an entirely different meaning. The ultimate expression of such a technique's success is to get the victim of the process to start using the same language. Coupled with the use of such techniques in mass media, it would be possible to create false memories or to erase real ones or otherwise manipulate the mood of individuals. To draw an analogy, it's like removing an inconvenient picture from the Soviet encyclopedia, not by actually removing the offending picture in the work itself, but rather, in the mind of the reader.
Which brings me to a final implication of this article, namely, the way to counter such manipulation is simply to make the victim aware of the process, and to drive the process back to sources themselves.
Can you say Mandela Effect?
See you on the flip side...
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“Some people may recognize echoes of the strategies and tactics of Gnosticism that I outlined in my four volume work God, History, and Dialectic (available on Lulu), specifically with respect to the second of the elements mentioned: the creation of false contexts or testimonies giving confirmatory elements.”
Yes. I opened Volume 1 of God, History, and Dialectic to reread Gnosticism in which you brilliantly deconstruct the construct of this belief system. These books are an imperative read. I have read that section many times.
Below? Just an opinion now…for what it’s worth.
“Attach new meanings to old terms”
Attach new memories to old paths
So the implanting of false memories alters a level of brain surface memory and anchors to a person’s undifferentiated emotion which causes susceptibility to that mental virus. Yet. There can be no entrainment without the tracks. Every line as B. Fuller apprehended is an “energy event”. So is a sidewalk when we walk on it. We, being the energy-it, the event. That is just an example of basic entrainment. Our thoughts may wander but our kinesthetic body walks the path. So unless we wander off the sidewalk we cooperate with the “advantageous geometry” as Henri Poincare so wisely noted. Not always a bad or good idea depends what is not seen on a preexistent path. “Geometry is not true, it is advantageous.” Advantageous to who?
People who create false memories are capable of understanding far more than I the levels and harmonics involved in variations on this theme. But standing outside the box and looking into it if I take all the knowledge of the world manufactured by the artificers in every rational or irrational attempt to perceive reality eventually everything made by man connects. Synchronicity for example is merely a point of the intersection of competing lines within a cubic domain. No sifting or differentiation, no metaphysics allows this virtual relativity. The cube of everything manufactured. Eventually what is false or true within this cube has a canceling feature. A worldly omega. A death box like a Freemason’s coffin. The walled structure holds that energy outcome if we dwell therein. “Best to be in but not of”…..Returning to the subject.
So for most of us though, a memory may be forgotten but the path remains. So. Repetition like our footsteps tapping on that outdoor sidewalk merely inserts a new energy event (memory)on this preconstructed geometric old-memory path-line then if rhythmically entrained either through tonality or a heartbeat for example– add to this [word- images] or anchors in NLP directed with specificity to a person’s brain-mind typology by say…a “trusted source” then any repetitive falsehood if accepted becomes intangibly tangible. So yes memory can be filled with substance-less imprints, misperceptions, errors and inadequate presuppositions and any false memory is provided “energy” to exist by the energy we give away by believing it.
And? Yes. What is a a true memory for humans can be modified or changed just the same as a false memory.
Truth is Absolute–a beautiful repose from this ever moving. Uncreated. The light of Tabor.
As they say.
This is why the Pythagoreans with anamnesis, and with a different but parallel take, the Toltec seekers described by Castaneda, have stressed the importance of recapitulating every event in our lives, aiming to “free the energy paths”.
Oliver Wendell Holmes once wrote, “Man’s mind stretched to a new idea, never goes back to its original design.”
Implanting and erasing presumptive memories, as are purported to have been done, will likely come with unforeseen consequences strewn out between the near term throughout the life span of their willing subjects?!?!?! People are not robots with hardened connections by bolts and nuts. That business of those “supposedly confirmatory elements or testimonies” in support of false memories seem as if they’re essentially [lies] with some parts thrown in to take up space in a picture frame. Or may be some perverse dialectic meant to fulfill an opposite as truth and lie would be seen to be opposites. Even something of what is seen currently through several sources that seem to have repetition that drive narratives. Getting bolder with their bald-faced lies nearly every day. ‘Suppose it depends on intent for use.
In some ways, an ideoplasty of a kind, a Victorian Age term, seems similar to fit the bill so to speak. Ideoplasty, a term no longer found in many revised dictionaries, was once used in describing what psychics or mediums were thought to be doing during a sitting or session. In the case of those conjuring quacks in the article, implanting false memories into presumably willing subjects.
Picking apart that word [ideoplasty] one finds its origin from Greek beginnings – ‘Ideo’ for idea, and ‘-plasty’ for molding, making the whole term “idea molding,” or in this context “idea-forming.” Today, the suffix ending [-plasty] is often found used within a medical frame of reference where plastic surgery or body tissue reconstruction of one kind or another is performed.
During the “sitting or session,” also called a séance for nearly two centuries, the idea-forming or reconstruction was to assist the medium or spiritualist in bringing together those assembled at the session with the dearly departed.
Mediumship was a theory that maintained that the beliefs and expectations of sitters would telepathically “influence” the medium which in turn would produce the ‘communication’ from beyond the grave or something similar and of what the scientifically oriented testers or experimenters would have suggested for the alleged medium to conjure.
Sitters, in this context would be those people seeking communication from beyond the grave, for instance; experimenters would be those scientifically testing the ability and validity of the psychic-medium, for instance, to conjure a certain expectation or desired outcome under controlled settings. The goal for each grouping of people would be the phenomenon that supports their respective and desired outcomes. Essentially, the medium is being led by these said people through the power of suggestion or through their “idea-forming” elements while entranced. These suggestions from sitters and experimenters, it is thought, could unconsciously influence the results of the experiment or sitting as well as the sensitive or medium.
It begs the question of where the fine line of experimental control ends and where the goal of a conjured expectation begins when one factors in an evolving set of sensory apparatuses each participant has brought with them to the session. Something similar could be suggested of those experimenters and experiencers – the liars and the lied to – of that implantation process.
It is not without risks to the experiencers despite the goals of those experimenters. There are limits to how gullible a dullard might be when Nature, never far away, asserts its relevance onto the functional sensory apparatuses of the subject manipulated. Probably why a large portion, nearly ¾, eventually had that false memory fade away to its fictional realm of conjuring.
Nature is far superior at camouflaging because Nature seems to know the process 360 degrees in spherical reckoning. Like your friendly cephalopods, for instance, in their native environment that hide in plain sight. They’re not the surroundings they mimic yet they seem to know the difference between self and the environment not to get confused but to confuse predator. Every part of their Being seems to go into the effort of camouflaging themselves from would be predators.
“experiencers”
I *am* one of these experiencers. 100% involuntarily, and it’s not something I’m ever likely to say much about.
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Keeping something/one[s] from getting in?
Keeping something/one[s] from getting out?
Both?
Or, none of the above?
From the land of programming and programmers, Mr Global’s ability to control the narrative is about to be pooched by collapsing too much?
new more plausible twist to mr global’s games
is mr global preparing to scapegoat fauci and gates while engineering a bigger problem reaction solution?
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Couple ideas to keep in mind here.
First thought popped up when I saw Darren Brown mentioned. He covered a few experiments. Milgram’s ran the experiment on subjects who thought they were experimenting on someone else. They thought someone else was the subject. Instead they were the subject. What others have since touched on is that besides bad and lasting effects on tortured subjects, bad effects also last on torturers. Cannibalism is apparently bad all the way around. This reminds me of a psycho cannibalism.
Some folk are more vulnerable to and/or armored against such victimization. Probably experiential. Consider arguments I had for decades with older siblings. Their active lies and humor over my belief in Santa Claus still bothers me, in an old man humorous but still serious kind of way. Feels like a real bad idea inducing such fantasies.
As for breaking out of lies lived in, a couple years into our marriage, a few of my siblings and our spouses sat around the kitchen while cleaning up after a holiday dinner. I pulled my closest brother aside with our wives and told him to humor me. I want them to stand outside the kitchen while I told a joke and to watch our Mom’s reaction. It was a Johnny joke where the teacher is upset by his leering sense of humor and and guesses about what’s in his pocket. It ends with her exclaiming “Johnny! That’s terrible!” to which he replies “No, but I like your thinking.” Very provocative, right? Not.
So a 30 year old told the joke to a bunch of 40 to 70 year olds and sure enough, my Mom got upset just like the teacher told me it was a terrible joke and to never tell it again, especially to my nieces and nephews. My brother and our wives heard and watched all of it along with a few others. I had him wait 20 minutes and then my brother came into the same room while I left and he told the joke again. She raved, dragged him into the living room and had him repeat the joke to 15 others in our family who missed it. My brother stared at me the whole time while he retold it. First time I ever saw him shook.
A few of us talked about it afterward. Some were more surprised than others. What all missed was that I was used to it and always suspected as much but that it did not anger me or make me love her any less. She was still my Mom. It scared me straight though. From that very convincing moment forward, I needed to recheck and rebalance every memory I had. As I told them, that’s some pretty psycho stuff and if she did that to me, what did I take away from it and what have I done to others I love.
That was over 30 years ago. The thought still scares and tempers me. The worst part of it all is that half of my siblings do not remember this incident at all. They get angry at the idea that I retell that story at all. It’s hard to tell if they just want me to lie to their kids like I had to lie to my Mom when injured as a kid (“Don’t cry don’t tell Mom…….”) or if they are actually convinced that it never happened and that I’m the crazy one and not our Mom. To this day though, I’m convinced my Mom was totally serious and had no idea she heard the same joke told by her two youngest sons 20 minutes apart.
Think of what we are capable of doing to ourselves and others unintentionally and completely unawares. Brings a new light on “what comes around goes around.”
BTW, thank you for the patience on this therapeutic journaling.
Zen, enjoy the stories. A break from the doom and gloom. Nothing like the life cycle of a large family…good and bad.
Apologies for not waiting for the weekend’s tidbits of stories Doc. Saw this and thought of someone here who has been leading me to consider mud fossils.
Loxie, I think it was you
https://gizadeathstar.com/2020/10/tidbits-this-weeks-honorable-mentions-24/
From the land of slow to turn around (hopefully I’m not like the Ever Given – someone with more music/lyric skill needs to pen a ditty to Gilligan’s Island about that one), I’m finally getting on to Mudfossil University. There’s a story with legs. Especially when one takes into account how quickly wood petrifies when struck with lightening. Happens most often today off damaged powerlines and lightening strikes. Plasma generated fossils crushes the paradigm that fossils take eons to form.
Brave New World, 1984, We anyone what is true about the past the Ministry of Truth has been in control of our memories for centuries.
Speech hypnose if often explained by Darren Brown as in one of the below videos where at the end he demonstrates the words used
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMropN6ft4Y
Here, the term “remotely” takes on new meaning.
Could a very remote/non-local ent1ty already be in the mix; so to speak?
I mean, there are all kinds/waves of “possibilities? when remote is both non-local and extends throughout the galaxy[& maybe beyond].
Not to mention, those ever-present interdimensional beings?
Who knows?
There are so many factors beyond our “senses”[electromagnetic in nature] involved in this “observable” collapsed illusion of “possibilities”.
And, dare I say the catch all phrase; spiritual beings being key to what’s what? And, dare I say: both forces of darkness & light?
It’s tough enough as it is; w/o thinking: are those my thoughts?
To the post…
Great!
As if brainwashing wasn’t already beyond full measure;
oops! … As if brainwashing wasn’t already beyond full… spectrum dominance, in “our collective” covid1984 enforced environment[s].
Now comes more brainwashing tools.
Remember that VCR? Well, it’s now part of your mind/memory. It’s not controlled by you; but that’s the trick. It’s their way of toying w/you; the masses.
They are just now releasing these mind-control trickles of info.
Just think of what they have they’re not saying?
Or, if they did; but now those thoughts have been removed…?
Talk about a tangled. mind-weaving-web of thoughts; and removed thought; and can’t think, of what I just thought?
And, then again; since so many can play these mind games;
it puts new meaning on…
Who are… “They”?
[they being who was on first last; or, what’s was on second
not to mention…
Who am I?
or, is it …
Who was I?
The thing is, there are so many lines of thought going on;
that it literally is becoming a comedy routine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTcRRaXV-fg
Some clear and cogent thoughts on the matter Robert.
There has been some discussion of the genre of Science Fiction in recent Vidchats such as Babylon 5 and Isaac Asimov’s Foundation series. I have been rereading Philip K. Dick’s Valis (Vast Active Living Intelligences System).
Many of the ideas expressed in his work are very pertinent to what and how we remember. In Dick’s words “ It is proper to say: we are memory coils ( DNA carriers capable of experience ) in a computer-like thinking system which, although we have correctly recorded and stored thousands of years of experiential information, and each of us possesses somewhat different deposits from
all other life forms, there is a malfunction – a failure- of memory retrieval. I think he is on to something. I believe that we must protect our DNA from being stolen either through gene manipulation or implantation of false memories. Also I think it’s important to not be seduced by information from advanced entities. Otherwise, I believe we will be imprisoned and unable or made uninterested in seeking out the divine.
The most powerful tool of NLP-programming is very simple:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/6wn8zkzt56whzv6/topological-metaphor.jpg
When realizing, that there is a cohesive picture, one will never see things the same way again.
In fact, one automatically starts to tinker with the language, and thereby the fabric of reality.
That is of course forbidden.
The holy grail of suffixes is “-isc”, and that I suspect is a contraction.
https://bosworthtoller.com/20802
It was reintroduced in Scandinavia, during the Reformation, as NLP-programming.
Assuming, that it is a contraction, the hypothesis of its origin is difficult to verify.
Probably transcendence, as “Ea+s+lic”.
Who are these people? … “The researchers then reinforced these false memories in the minds of the participants by asking the volunteers’ parents to play along .”
I’m assuming these are adult subjects, hopefully volunteers. Children are particularly susceptible and can even be convinced that they had been molested, when in fact that they had not. (Talk about court cases.)
This is encouraging — “to counter such manipulation is simply to make the victim aware of the process” – Thanks JF!
They can also be convinced they were not when they were.
Huh?
Why do people do this ?
Why?
Why is it funky , why is it groovy
Why do the peep le
Peep
Peep
Peep
And participate
Maybe they had no choice.
This gives me hope
That they had to choice in such smelly nasty rude X peri ments
Who can say just how far German and Anglosphere mind manipulation research differs, and how these differ from the Russian approach?
You mean the Germano-Scandosphere there has never been an Anglosphere since 1066AD. When the last Viking William of Normandy defeated Harold Godwinson at Hastings.
There is a issue that haunts me since a while: in most MSM criticism, the focus lies only on the content, not the form. But I’m convinced that the way the content is presented, the rhythm, the cut, the voice and prosody of the speakers, etc have deepest effect on even people who pretend to be aware of MSM manipulation. For example, a few days after the so called “lockdown” (why in fact?) I was brought to observe TV, and within a few days some image sequences appeared in intervals of 2-3 days exactly the same way as a new “news”. I found it frightening.
There is Peter Watkins’ “Media Crisis” who addressed it, but I can’t recall the content. So I would find it very interesting to have some documentation about how exactly MSM “news” are fabricated, how they decide, what, how the business is done… I think we would discover a lot of strange things, wouldn’t we?
Another step of awareness to realize is to understand how we get our convictions which are in fact somehow “programmed” collectively. I happened to have changed strongly several times my opinion on the world, meanwhile observing what was happening and how I could stay diplomatic, how I came to my convictions. Here I realized that most of the time we are not aware of where individual or collective convictions come from. They could as good as come from a obscure think tank while we believe it is our personal conviction. And these convictions include ways to speak and generate feelings… For example, how does the average people think about “fake news” or “conspiracy theories”? They just believe they talk about reality …
Being aware of the social programming and false narrative agenda of corporate media does indeed make it much more difficult for them if not impossible. So they infiltrated alternative media. But being aware that they infiltrated alternative media makes it a lot less successful as well. But many awake to corporate media have yet to realize their favored alternative is attempting to reprogram and deceive them as well. I’m glad I have an overly suspicious and rebel mind.
Be careful with alternative media as this channel is already deeply infiltrated by corporate media and the 3 letter agencies. Their main strategy is to blend truth with an astray or easy to debunk false information. The latter is then debunked in the mainstream media and the whole alternative media is then branded as non creditable. See for example all these never proven stories from Q-anon, the white heads etc etc etc. People always fall for the fact that others are taking care of their issues, which unfortunately for them doesnt happen. See as a great example draining the swamp from trump
It’s blackwashing. Alex Jones did it with pizza gate. For a brief time he was exposing the topic the most and then he completely collapsed and recanted. Ryan at anti-neocon youtube channel did similar. David Icke does it without recanting by saying crazier sounding stuff like he is Jesus or that lizards are everywhere shapeshifting all the while being one of the most accurate sources of what’s going on obviously all around us. Watched a video today of his statements in 2009 around the viral scam of the day. He was spot on. Who believed him then and who now.
Some of the best (and worst) stuff I’ve seen on NLP and such came out of TruthStreamMedia – Aaron and Melissa Dy k es. They have a library of videos worth seeing. “The Minds of Men” is where I first encountered Peter Breggin. Also Neil Sanders books on “Your Thoughts Are Not Your Own” are oustanding (and scary as anyone can stand).
If memory serves (yeh ironic that) Tavistock was formed for and around this subject. The stated purpose was to help those poor shell shocked war vets. Those vets quickly became victims of the new disease PTSD. I wonder if MK branched out of Tavistock or Tavistock out of MK.
Spot on zdb. Put the truth out with just enough crazy. The Overlords can always say the truth was out there. But it was discredited enough (black-washed) that those who see the truthful aspect can be tainted with the crazy.
Yes.
“They” like to tell truths; then pause…
and then go bat **** crazy!
They want their audience buying it a little,
then totally discredit the messenger.
They might edit it out of context.
I mean, I’m trying to watch March Madness.
There’s the fake crowds.
There’s the announcers standing six feet apart,
talking strategies.
Everybody and their brother wearing masks.
It’s propaganda. In-your-face-propaganda.
If you wonder what enemies of mankind are doing;
just turn on your TV. Any Channel. Any time. Any where.
How it works I think we can see with the Dutch elections. See the photos below. The Red color is used by the current Prime Minister, who I expect to leave (so stop), where the lady (?) Sigrid Kaag is wearing Green color meaning Green Light or Go., so to me she will be the new Prime Minister.- A second picture shows him (mark Rutte) walking away (so leaving) and her (Sigrid Kaag) walking on the podium (so coming). Unfortunately it seems I cannot do a copy an past from the 2 photographs, but this is how the media works.
Hopefully this works when you copy the URL in your browser?
https://www.google.com/search?tbs=simg:CAQSmgIJoZEZ7rvrzMEajgILEKjU2AQaBAhCCEMMCxCwjKcIGjoKOAgEEhTaO5YQ4wO9KdEWhjmLMuo57hq_1CRoaTll3ufEmHN2bIt8Tqi-r_1BSQxua2vcryTuwgBTAEDAsQjq7-CBoKCggIARIEGe6zRwwLEJ3twQkaoQEKHgoLZm9ybWFsIHdlYXLapYj2AwsKCS9tLzAydzNfMgofCgxzcG9rZXNwZXJzb27apYj2AwsKCS9tLzAxeHI2NgomChN3aGl0ZS1jb2xsYXIgd29ya2Vy2qWI9gMLCgkvbS8wMWtxM3gKHAoJZ2VudGxlbWFu2qWI9gMLCgkvbS8wMTlwNXEKGAoGc3BlZWNo2qWI9gMKCggvbS8wOXgwcgw&q=formal+wear&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwit1eCX1M7vAhWZ7XMBHcpgAjwQwg4oAHoECAEQMA&biw=1536&bih=698
and the second picture showing the leaving and the coming Prime Minister
https://www.google.com/search?tbs=simg:CAQSpAIJ9jDKyOAPjYwamAILEKjU2AQaBAhCCEMMCxCwjKcIGjsKOQgEEhTULNEW2juqK-o5xSiWEOMDvSnBKxobsXneUtT7-zl9S0GMd4Rb4FEhjBeccPNf8eLGIAUwBAwLEI6u_1ggaCgoICAESBF9iwLIMCxCd7cEJGqoBCh4KC2Zvcm1hbCB3ZWFy2qWI9gMLCgkvbS8wMnczXzIKKAoUdGVsZXZpc2lvbiBwcmVzZW50ZXLapYj2AwwKCi9tLzB2cHNkM2gKHAoJZ2VudGxlbWFu2qWI9gMLCgkvbS8wMTlwNXEKJgoTd2hpdGUtY29sbGFyIHdvcmtlctqliPYDCwoJL20vMDFrcTN4ChgKBWV2ZW502qWI9gMLCgkvbS8wODFwa2oM&q=formal+wear&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjdp6vv1M7vAhU34nMBHY3NBf0Qwg4oAHoECAEQMA&biw=1536&bih=698&dpr=1.25
Makes sense. Good catch.
Yes, that is the kind of thing that I suspect.
But I would like a fool picture of it with many details, say an investigative journalist does a series of articles or writes a book, something that you could show to the sceptic, is it all or only some of them. Because I also suspect some of the journalists must be naive and believe the stuff they say as they are not aware how much lies or wrong informations come from Press Agencies (cf for example https://swprs.org/the-propaganda-multiplier/) or Wikipedia or the “Sciences” etc. As JF mentionned somewhere (if I remember right), they also all together believe their own propaganda. Do they really believe they deliver different content, or do they discuss together who is playing which role? How do the connections to industry and politics operate, etc On the other hand, there is also the question of “regular” illegal stuff going on, but again I like it to be documented and research…
A few thhings to consider are the old Stasi or Securitate for example. See how many people were part of such organisations (1 : 50), Do we really think this dissapeared or did we improved on this. I think ythe latter, so you have many people around you who are so called Inoffizieller Mitarbeiter in the system, Think form example the part of the society living on a kind of social benefits.
Then also see how many people are employed by a kind of goverment function. This is easily comin close to a 40 – 50% of the working population. Hence we always ask in the media for more police onm the streets.
Then not everybody is fully ion the know of what part they play.They have no complete overview. related to press however I think they know, but choose to keep their jobs for paying their mortgage etc.
Dear Joseph, as I have posted on your previous article, it is impossible to erase long term memories, as these types of memory are imprinted and stored in a person’s Heart cells, not Brain cells. However, if a person has a heart transplant, they lose their existing long term memories and inherit new long term memories from the donor’s heart.
This evidence is from patients who have received a heart transplant and found that they have attained a new skill / skills and memories after receiving the donor’s heart – such as playing chess, fluency in a foreign language, ability to read music, playing the piano or guitar, figure skating or ball room dancing – for example!
The excellent book by Paul Pearsall Ph.D. The Heart’s Code, gives actual cases of patients who have had a heart transplant and have gained new lifetime skills and memories!
The problem we have is getting more information from heart surgeons, as their medical certification, livelihoods, reputation and medical funding is on the line – so they are reluctant to talk openly about their transplant patients and their gaining of new skills from the donor’s heart.
I think you talk about the normal situation.
But think about religious or political believes or sects, those convictions are kind of “memories” and they are easily loaded with feelings which can be created just by music, news or films, not to speak about hypnosis.
And from what I have heard, it is quite difficult to deprogramm MK victims, they would attack the therapist or just go suicidal. So the soul is a very complex thing, and in some cases highly controllable.
I hear you. But, that does not necessarily mean the memories are stored there, does it? You may well be right–I cannot say. But, the unique configuration of that organ’s DNA may well transduce those memories from its original owner as well as memories from the recipient’s original tissues. If the heart “radio” is tuned to a different frequency than the “brain”, might there not be a blending of two distinct broadcasts? I guess what I am trying to say is, both explanations are two of several potential ones–depending on the philosophical or spiritual underpinnings grounding each proposal in hyperspace.
The hypothesis that long term memory is stored in Heart cells and not the Brain is falsifiable. Transplant a pig heart to a human and see if the human then has memories of farms, farmyards and pigstys.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/aug/19/pig-to-human-heart-transplants-possible-within-three-years-terence-english
What I also noticed is quite extraordinary about this article is the mention about an international team of researchers, including UK scientists who found that delivering a small piece of genetic material called mRNA-199 into a heart damaged by a heart attack caused the damaged cells to regenerate! Joseph what do you think?
Or, could it mean that the variance in the wavelength of the pig’s memory is not within a frequency that can be recognized by the human consciousness? Just because the radio frequencies for the average radio are tuned within a specific part of the electromagnetic spectrum does not mean those frequencies are the only useful ones. Would it be a mistake to assume all biological entities resonate memories within the same bandwidth? This is a question I’ve never heard asked. If I seem aggressive please forgive me. I wish not to offend, but to understand. To know someone begins with understanding–and there are many new voices here.
What did the Alkemets better known as Egyptians know about the heart and when did they learn it.
The Ancient Egyptians believed that the Heart held a person’s thoughts and emotions. This most certainly chimes with the evidence from heart transplant patients!
The Heart was the only organ that they did not remove from the body at mummification. They removed all the other organs – including the brain which they sucked out through a hole made in the persons nose. The other organs were stored in Canopic Jars and placed in a wooden box in the tomb next to the mummy.
Quite possibly that it had long term repetition as part of its Being.
Oh so I get it .
The Mayans wanted to learn, how to ice-skate.
Good luck with that.
Memory is stored outside of time and space
That is why , the good angels decided to close up shop.
No small businesses allowed.
Take your digital cannisters to the recycle bin.
I was born in the U.K. in 1954. My friends & I grew in the shadow of WWII. Stories of WWII were all around us. One story I remember clearly is that when WWII ended there was a mystery about what happened to Hitler. Nobody knew. He had simply disappeared. Now we are told his body was found at the end of WWII outside the bunker in Berlin. History has been rewritten as well as memories.