DETECTING ENVIRONMENTAL DNA
This story was spotted by many regular readers here who kindly passed it on to me, and I can see why. (Thank you, by the way, to all of you who did so). As one might guess from the title, this story has my high octane speculation motor spinning in overdrive:
Scientists Collect Animal DNA From Air For the First Time Ever
As the article itself implies, scientists have figured out how to detect DNA in the air, and this promises some big advances in forensics, and even in how airborne diseases are transmitted:
For the first time ever, scientists have managed to collect environmental DNA (eDNA) from the air. The practice, still at its early stages, could revolutionize forensics, anthropology, and even medicine.
The scientists first took air samples from a room that had housed naked mole-rats and showed that airDNA sampling could successfully detect mole-rat DNA within the animal’s housing. The scientists also spotted human DNA in the air samples.
They initially ventured a guess that this might be due to contamination. However, with further research, they came to the conclusion that the human genetic material was moving away from its original source and spreading throughout the air.
Clare further explained that the technique could help researchers to better understand the transmission of airborne diseases such as COVID-19. "At the moment social distancing guidelines are based on physics and estimates of how far away virus particles can move, but with this technique we could actually sample the air and collect real-world evidence to support such guidelines," Clare explained.
It does not require much speculation to see how this might, for example, benefit forensics. Knowing how long types of DNA endure in particular environments might be of benefit in determining not only who was present at a crime scene but when it was committed.
But the speculative possibilities rapidly branch out from there and they raise all sorts of questions for some of the more exotic theories that are out there in speculationdom. For example, could one clone an animal, or even a human, from such DNA? or try this: does one still own one's environmental DNA and would someone need one's permission to use it in a database or in a clone, or not?
And if one is a fan of Russian Cosmism, or the theory of panspermia, or any number of other theories, it poses even more questions. For those unacquainted with it, Russian Cosmism is a wondrously weird philosophy combining elements of Christianity and technology to create a technologically driven "resurrection of the dead" by collecting all human ancestral DNA and cloning them back into life. All this, it is believed, is because it's our "Christian duty" to do so because we are now either in possession of, or close to possessing, the technological means to do so. Couple that with a bit of "transhumanism 'virtual immortality'", and voila, instant communio sanctorum (sans the All Important Ingredient of course having to do with the sanct part of the orum). Now, apart from a few nasty questions that would only delight theologians and philosophers like - oh, I don't know - the galloping Pelagianism and Christlessness of it all (I'm one of those who would entertain quite a few of those "nasty questions"), I'm not so sure that all my ancestors would be people I'd really want to know or hang out with. Those ancestors are, after all, French, Irish, Scottish, German, and Basque, and they haven't exactly behaved very well in the last few hundred years. They may very well be "family," but I rather suspect that there's much wisdom in those old Christian prayers asking for mercy for all of one's "ancestors in the flesh."
The panspermia idea is even more intriguing to entertain in connection with this environmental DNA. Panspermia is of course the theory entertained and elaborated by many biologists, who hypothesize that meteors, space dust, comets and so on, are teaming with "environmental DNA" and that life literally was seeded here by such objects slamming into the Earth aeons ago and depositing their seeds. (There's even a school of thought that theorizes that one of my own personal animal favorites - the octopus - was seeded here because besides being a wondrously intelligent creature, it just so very odd and unearthly in its eight-armed, nine-brained, body-on-top-head-in-the-middle-arms-on-bottom way.) On this view, "empty space" may literally be teaming with all sorts of life - or at least the seeds of it - waiting to be deposited in an environment which will nurture it and in which it can adapt and survive. This view, in fact, is not very unlike some of the metaphors in Vedic literature, and given that literature's occasional odd reference to some rather sophisticated physics and cosmological views, it may not be so far fetched. Already we have seen stories and reports of strange bacteria and other little organisms that have never been seen before, growing in odd little places where they "should not be", like the International Space Station. Where did the little critters come from? Nobody knows, but if they were just floating around out there and attached themselves to the ISS like little space barnacles, then the panspermia idea may not be so far-fetched.
But flip the picture. If there is environmental DNA, and if it can survive for a long time, then is it possible that as the Earth hurls through empty space, and one of Earth's inhabitants is hurling his own little satellites to neighboring planets, is it possible we might be not only effects of panspermia, but its agents? Again, it's not so far-fetched, especially when one contemplates the careful steps taken with such man-made satellites and probes to ensure we are not contaminating, or rather seeding, other celestial bodies. After all, the European Space Agency cancelled a Mars probe on account of Covid (leaving one to wonder just who on Mars might catch it?). And again, there all those ancient texts that seem to suggest that the genus homo might not be restricted to this planet.
So... down to the bottom line: this "little" story might not be so little, and it's one to watch closely...
See you on the flip side...
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I really have to return to Star Trek. I keep thinking about Mr Spock and his hand held sensor he takes out and uses to detect if there is any extant life when he lands on an alien planet.
Just where is this COVID-19 heading?
I hope all you people who were foolish enough to run out and be tested for COVID realize what you did.
Those samples have probably not been added to the world database, but they certainly did get you to consent to having samples of your DNA taken, because “it’s for your own good.”
don’t you even think for a moment that a main goal is to establish a worldwide DNA database of every single man / woman / whatever… because that is the very heart and sould of Technocracy, Inc.
The nasal swab for the PCR testing being suspect for DNA collection was a suspicion I held from the start. Protecting your DNA (your property) is almost impossible at this point. From giving blood/plasma, urine/hair drug testing, to routine hospital/family doctor visits. No doubt, the financial “machine” of the Pharmaceutical Complex has back door deals with hospitals and other health care industries to “farm” DNA, in turn aiding to the smaller business profits.
The most recent consideration I have is all those whom have received the jab, and how long before all blood banks are (in percentage) compromised of blood with the antigens of the mRNA “vaccine”… can you still donate your own blood as a backup for your own surgeries? Although, the Pharma companies are indemnified against anyone willfully taking the jab and being injured… Does that also apply to someone who receives blood donated from a vaccinated donor without disclosure (choice) and is harmed (…of course there would have to be proof that the harm was caused by the antigens of the donation).
Sorry but I have to call “bullshit” here.
the biggest potential use for this technology sounds like this: “Your honor, we found his DNA in the air, proving that he was on the scene and must be the killer.”
This reminds me of the brilliant forensic techniques developed by the FBI: “we found fibers from his sweater on the back seat of the car.”
Yeah. right. And who is going to disprove this baloney.. when you are on trial for your life and the police and their “experts” are arrayed against you?
Stop the planet, I want off.
I wonder if the authorities are developing a DNA recognition system to chemically track and trace individuals as they move about from place to place.
We already have the highest number of CCTV cameras relative to our population in the UK (our streets, buildings, transport and public places are covered with them), many of which are facial recognition type cameras – which won’t work when most people are wearing face masks!. Presumably, the authorities need to be able to protect us from those who will do us harm at major spectator events such as pop concerts and sports. So they need to be able to pin point individuals amongst tens of thousands of people at big events who are wearing masks by following wanted individuals chemical signature?
I suspect that such DNA monitoring, though Big Brother might love the idea, would be about as accurate as PCR testing – i.e. near to zero, since the atmosphere and not-really-empty space outside is a veritable soup of various materials. And if officialdom develops “bloodhound” chemical signature tracing (if we have thought of it they probably have too), that same technique will also contain the means to obfuscate such readings.
It doesn’t matter how “accurate” the testing is.. all that matters is whether the jury believes you, or the “expert” testimony.
guess who will be more compelling?
I need to get an “expert” license so I can sell lies and be rewarded for it.
Like the lie detector.
Mumble jumble science that’s ruined lives;
and is crooked as hell.
I believe that part of the mask op was to teach AI to recognise us by things other than our faces (body type, gait, and so on). Never let a good opportunity go to waste!
SyFy channel Resident Alien has the alien Earth relatives be Octopuses. There are darker sides to this technology allowing our control freak elites to run this prison planet more efficiently.
“Scientists Collect Animal DNA From Air For the First Time Ever”.
I doubt it.
“Clare further explained that the technique could help researchers to better understand the transmission of airborne diseases such as COVID-19…”
Unlikely. If the method and materials is examined, all these people did was draw some air through a HEPA filter from a tiny 3x4m room containing cages with mole rats in them. Standard DNA extraction and PCR amplification. Slapping a term like “eDNA” is a half-arsed attempt to make out there’s something special about (probably) dead skin cells and hair. Wasn’t aware keratinised, very dead skin cells were much of an infectious disease threat to anyone or anything. Fungal skin infection perhaps?
If you aren’t big on house cleaning, you know, the dusty stuff in bedsheets, the powdery deposit under the pillows on the couch if sheets aren’t changed too often.
This article doesn’t add anything to scientific knowledge or offer the prospect any public good advancement more than DNA testing sewage water. Better still how DNA testing has been routine on packaged food for decades to estimate the rodent population in the food processing plant. Did you know the FDA regularly sets maximum allowable rodent faecal matter content of foods as it’s impossible to keep their asses off of the machinery that for example; tins, freezes and packages your food(?) Ever head a better reason to eat fresh food?
As per panspermia, it is no doubt pretty likely something turned up at some point from somewhere else. Perhaps regularly and on an ongoing basis. My opinion is that it likely would have been (is) in the form of what we term archaebacteria or the “old” bacteria. The ones that live around the mouths of deep sea volcanic ocean vents, in high salt lakes, break down nutrients in sewage water. Basically extreme environments. Problem with attributing these to existential origins is that microbial culturing methods centre and were developed around/ for medical testing and food/beverage quality control. The actual understanding of microbial life on Earth is far from comprehensive nor complete.
After the umpteenth interruption; I’m in another, environmental
frame of mind[because the mind is also framed in environmental DNA”].
An epigenetic frame: that is, the unseen 4th dimensional strand of DNA.
Because; not only are the living, the result of DNA original constructs . W/in the DNA are epigenetic environmental triggers, that continually interact w/the living.
Those triggers; are important to the living’s survival;
yet not all are “good”.
Think of the locust.
I picked “them”, because their change is based upon population density.
When the population is low; “they” behave as individuals; but the environment changes “them” when it becomes dense, in its vegetative growth. A hormone is released.
So locust can be natural; or, “made”, by purposely changing their “environmental DNA”.
To the post…
[after another interruption]
While, “they” pull things out of thin air; all the time.
Mostly money; but DNA, must have been commodified recently to achieve “out of thin air” status.
“They’re” cops at heart; in fact, I’d wager its in their DNA – and in the air “they” breathe. “They’re” also using magic science. Doubt me? Why just look at their recent magic virus plandemic. Manufacturing science on an industrial scale, is quite easy, when you’ve also manufactured the press, When you daily manufacture truths. Science is literally a no brainer. Just hire some obsequious prima donna millionaire Harvard/Yale type faculty professors, and they’ll jazz it up w/truthiness rhythms, at a mass productive cadence, whose coda has no providence. A virtual symphony of lies, strung & sung along by a singing press choir – following the teleprompter masquerade bouncing magic virus ball.
Of course, to anyone w/common sense; it all falls flat.
Well, every once in a while the Chinese keyboard does me in. My, “to be continued” White Rabbit post went spinning off to who knows where.
In fact, I was typing away…
that The Frank Buck’s, Bring ‘Em Back Alive rhapsody, is only bringing back the bodies – not their individual histories and cultural selves – that actually made them what they “are”.
What they “were” is gone; gone with those winds of yesteryears.
I was typing away w/the cool thoughts of Dr. Farrell’s panspermia; that we might not only be the result of such seeding, but its agents as well.
That empty space is full of life; not only in this solar system, but others – that spin around the Milky Way’s galactic center disk.
That life is playing a rondo; all around, and up & down – the classic vinyl discs – of Milky Way, DNA spiraled tempo yesterdays of…
My understanding is that DNA is simply information. Information can be considered, dismissed, erroneously cobbled together, aptly deciphered, used beneficially, used detrimentally, etc.
If we believe that information is everywhere (ether for instance), then it would seem logical for DNA particles to be everywhere.
Pipoe, we are tapping into or connecting with our spiritual selves, each other and the Universe using Deje vu, synchronicities, intuition, our senses. Like when you meet someone and you can feel their vibrations, good, bad, neutral. Or walk into a room and you can “sense” happiness or anger.
I have snychronicities that are most amazing! Especially since I started meditating 10 years ago. Imagine what we could do if we knew how to use this esoteric “sense” of ours.
Nature is a great healer.
One up for forensic investigations. Soon refined for the most current dander DNA, no doubt.
Might be another tasking for the N411DE aka “The Sniffer.” Results, of course, classified even though its flights regularly logged.
The potential for that type of technology is profound if developed for most, if not all, microbial portions present in a sampling. It would be a significant step in microbiology right down to the molecules and base pair cataloguing of the corporeal. Establishing elemental frequency discernment would be akin to mapping out an electromagnetic frequency spectrum of Periodic Table elements or for organic lifeforms contained in the molecular structures sampled. Any off-world items could raise some interesting talking points if they’re left behind or gained safe entry on a something – inside a rock or deliberate seeding of sorts. Then again, it’s probably already in use, well developed, and expanded upon for possibly nefarious activity given several three letter agencies foreign and domestic. A linear time stamp though might be well beyond the agencies intellectual property.
The phrase “we, the people” is seeding self-declared communism.
Therein is no individual stand, and therefore no aware consciousness.
Liquid water has no structure, being fluid mass of chaos.
“Everything as everything” has no distinction.
Perhaps the “?” is Prime Source (or choose another name).
Yes, I am looking for the primary source.
Athletic discipline or thinking system, or both.
Oxonian: Walter Metcalfe Holmes Milner.
British Israelism / Christian Identity.
I imagine that we are connected to Primary Source, and it’s “open source” infinite and always creating.
Where the computer – AI is “closed source” based in the cloud. Digital verses analog, we create curves and circles, digital can only follow straight lines, rides along like a hitchhiker on the sine wave.
How does Yoga tie into the Druid Order?
From Bronze Age to Iron Age, Assyrian conquest, fall of Troy, twice fall of Jerusalem, has triggered resettlements into Britain. Some came by land, others by sea.
Common trait seems to have been a sectoral divide of sundial, with eight tides, and eight disciplines (“yoga”).
Apparently, the floor plan of the pyramid, with eight directions of the compass, is the same worldview, from high antiquity.
Languages change and travel, yet ideas remain. Druidry is the common trait, and a red thread.
I wonder if Nikolai Fedorov is spinning in his grave over this announcement?!
I would not be shocked if this research found its way into ‘bio-alert’ policies that forced people to shelter in place and make us believe we need to live in a bubble. We could accept the fact that purity and safety are relative measurements in the environemnt and that our bodies are permeable vessels of life existing in a soup of life containing biological, chemical, physical and energetic forces. And, the permeability of our being does need to be on guard to avoid deleterious elements.
Or, perhaps it is the threat of certain geographic zones becoming so harmful to human life that an area becomes uninhabitable without extensive personal protection. Maybe it is the potential of that ecological trajectory (due to pollution and resource depletion) that has these world leaders so ‘panicked’ that they can rationalize the false COVID narratives slowing down and containing human activity.
Or, noting that Joseph filed this post under cosmic warfare, maybe there is an particular ET group that thinks the earth needs a little cleansing, and one group of ETs is an instigator of the release of a series of viruses to get that accomplished. Which would explain the comments we sometimes hear about the next virus and would justify the feeling of the rushed vaccine roll out, in that perhaps there is an actual emergency we need to prepare for and be able to detect. This scenario would also explain the possible government release of ET information.
The Biosecurity State,
where the medical establishment has become her digital jailers;
and the States social workers, are in sync – as her prison guards.
And yes, the environment is changing; or, being terraformed
– for who?
I swear, we’re all going to end up living in bubbles before everything is said and done. Weird science used to fascinate me more than it does now. I guess because I was naïve and thought there are areas that are sacrosanct and they just wouldn’t go there. You know, Frankenstein, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, The Fly and The Blob were sci-fi, not real life. I don’t like living in a sci-fi horror show — I want to go home!
Don’t forget The Island of Dr. Moreau;
it’s more, 20th-Worst Century apropos.
I forgot about the Island of Dr. Moreau … if the special effects had been a little better, it would have been more creepy, but it did the job anyway! lol
Ok, that does it, this proves to me that et`s are guiding our troubles on this planet!
What human would think it even remotely possible to get DNA out of the air?
Only beings that have been manipulating DNA for a long time.
If they want our planet, nuking us wold be messy and too destructive (Mars), but DNA would control us and make it easier to get what they (et`s) want.
Well since a while scientifics use (years if not decades) massive DNA or RNA collection technics scrutinizing everything from the oceans to intestinal flora. They so set up endless statistics and discover endlessly new bacteria or unknown microorganisms. For example, it has been used in archeological anthropology to compare male & female genetic correlation in households. So I’m not surprised at all…
Microzymes, Dr. Farrell! Microzymes!
What an amazing way to salt a crime scene with the DNA of a non-participant to a crime. Such a thing would have standing in court as forensic evidence against a defendant–unless the defendant can prove by other means they were not present. In this case the amount of DNA evidence might well be reduced to a few fragments rather than a significant amount. We are not moving away from the commission of the perfect crime to the commission of a perfect prosecution where the conclusion is foregone and the outcome determined.
We are now moving away from the commission… We really need an edit button. I didn’t catch the “not”.
I write so many embarrassing things; that its pathetic.
Not proud of it; but an edit button, like they have in the forum has saved me many an embarrassment. I still make faux pas; but not a vast, as it would be w/o the edit button.
Proof read well?
But, I do proof drink.
This has been the case since the 1980s with PCR testing for DNA. Given enough cycles, a lab can find any sequence in any sample, due to the self-assembling nature of DNA.
I know. But this new procedure enhances that–which is the point.
If we add to that, a wave nature of genom, lets keep in mind works of prof. Montagnier, prof. Gariaev and dr U. Granogger, than everything is possible and our understanding of laws of physics and natute in general have to be completely rewritten.
Perhaps they were already written more accurately but the dissemination of that information was incomplete and inaccurate due to the core source being fragmented.
Especially today’s corrupted to the core courts.
[I was just speculating serendipitous in post below]
I’m now on page 234 of K.C. Sivils’, An Innocent Man.
I quote from that page:
“Why frame innocent people?”
“Because it’s about power. It’s fun to terrify people, to make them do what you want. It has to be a huge ego trip, to break all the rules and to have people so terrified of you that you can do what ever you want.”
> It’s a sci-fi thriller about perfect prosecution;
where the conclusion is foregone, and the outcome determined.
That is until, a fictional character turns the tables…
But, the truth is; sometimes even stranger than fiction…
Shed and spread.
Even our thoughts create an echo in so much space.
The discoverer of the DNA Double Helix and Nobel Prize winner – the late Professor Francis Crick was one of the primary advocates of the Directed Panspermia theory of Evolution.
Now that Joseph is talking about intelligent sea creatures – please let me mention Star Trek IV – The Voyage Home. It’s the 23rd century, and a mysterious alien power is threatening Earth by evaporating the oceans and destroying the atmosphere. In a frantic attempt to save mankind, Captain Kirk and his crew must travel back in time to save the Earth and its people from total destruction.
You couldn’t make it up, but a possible alien probe / scout visited our Solar System in 2017. Oumuamua Asteroid of 2017. The asteroid’s shape and colour is very similar to the probe in Star Trek IV. To boldly go.
Makes one wonder, if the two are “intentionally” connected.
When one considers all the possibilities; it collapses – quite serendipitously.
[excuse my supercalifragilisticexpialidocious way of saying nothing]
Looks like I might be leadership material after all – insanely so.
At last the Giza Death Star is charging up and getting really exciting!
The discoverer of the DNA Double Helix and Nobel Prize winner – Professor Francis Crick is one of the primary advocates of the Directed Panspermia theory of Evolution.
Now Joseph is talking about intelligent sea creatures – please let me mention Star Trek IV – The Voyage Home. It’s the 23rd century, and a mysterious alien power is threatening Earth by evaporating the oceans and destroying the atmosphere. In a frantic attempt to save mankind, Kirk and his crew must travel back in time to save the Earth and its people from total destruction.
You couldn’t make it up, but a possible alien probe / scout visited our Solar System in 2017. Oumuamua Asteroid of 2017. The asteroid’s shape and colour is very similar to the probe in Star Trek IV. To boldly go…