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A NEW STATE OF MATTER? TIME CRYSTALS…

This is one of those stories which I have to blog about, simply because it plays into so much of the type of speculations that I and the readers of this website like to indulge in. But first, a big thank you to C.V. for spotting this one and sending it along; it made my day!

The reason it made my day is because "time crystals," which have long been theorized in quantum mechanics, have taken a major step toward actually having been - for a few moments - created by Google. Regular readers, or members, of this website or readers of my books will have heard me sometimes speak of the "lattice of space-time" and so on, implying the idea that space and time have properties best resembling a crystal. The idea isn't a new one in fact; one can encounter it in ancient and medieval lore and texts. But now there's a new wrinkle, so what, exactly, is a time crystal?

Google says it has created a time crystal in a quantum computer, and it's weirder than you can imagine

Essentially, a "time crystal" is the state of a system that, with regular periodicity, moves from a given state of order, to a state of greater chaos, and then back to that given state of order or something closely approximating it.  The article puts it this way:

It starts with a thought experiment: take a box in a closed system that is isolated from the rest of the universe, load it with a couple of dozens of coins and shake it a million times. As the coins flip, tumble and bounce off each other, they randomly move positions and increasingly become more chaotic. Upon opening the box, the expectation is that you will be faced with roughly half the coins on their heads side, and half on their tails.

It doesn't matter if the experiment started with more coins on their tails or more coins on their heads: the system forgets what the initial configuration was, and it becomes increasingly random and chaotic as it is shaken.

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This is where time crystals defy all expectations. Looking at the system after a certain number of operations, or shakes, reveals a configuration of qubits that is not random, but instead looks rather similar to the original set up.

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It doesn't stop here. Shake the system an even number of times, and you'll get a similar configuration to the original one – but shake it an odd number of times, and you'll get another set up, in which tails have been flipped to heads and vice-versa.

And no matter how many operations are carried out on the system, it will always flip-flop, going regularly back-and-forth between those two states. (Boldface and underlining emphasis added)

There's a catch, however, and that is that the experiment had to be performed on a quantum computer, in which case, the computer chips became the time crystals, with qubits of information being subjected to the computer equivalent of shaking the box of coins:

A quantum processor, by definition, is a perfect tool to replicate a quantum mechanical system. In this scenario, Google's team represented the coins in the box with qubits spinning upwards and downwards in a closed system; and instead of shaking the box, they applied a set of specific quantum operations that can change the state of the qubits, which they repeated many times.

Here's the rub, however: time crystals have to be kept relatively and more or less completely isolated from outside environmental "noise", otherwise, the system of periodic system state shifts runs down. Or to put it differently, time crystals are closed systems:

This closed system, when it is translated into the quantum domain, is the perfect setting to try and find time crystals, and the only one known to date. "The only stable time crystals that we've envisioned in closed systems are quantum mechanical," says von Keyserlingk.

This point, as one might imagine, is where my temptation to indulge in high dives off-the-end of the high octane speculation twig begins. Many people - I among them - have speculated on what happens if particular quantum effects were applicable at larger scales, if, for example, the "observer effect" that is so embedded within quantum mechanics were operable at much larger scales. Similarly, we wonder if those larger scales are reachable via group observers, and so on.  In this instance, there are whole cosmologies that have been around for a very long time that in effect view the entire cosmos as a kind of time crystal, with periodicity that occurs in ultra-extremely long cycles.  Think only of the Vedic cosmology with its repeated yugas, or cycles or ages of time. Indeed, conventional astrology similarly deals with long cycles, and also provides a clue that in certain planetary configurations or lattice structures, certain aggregate behaviours are present.  Again, for purposes of this high octane speculation, it's important to note that these configurations never exactly repeat, but rather, certain general arrangements of the lattice (planetary position) recur. (For the mathematically inclined, if S be a system state of a time crystal, then one could simplistically use S-dS  to represent the recurrence of the close approximation of that state.)

It's that idea of extremely long cycles that's very intriguing in this context, because as the article notes, such systems are closed systems, isolated from the insertion of noise. That in turn suggests that if one wants to break a such a macro-system "time crystals" of long wave cycles, one has to introduce something from outside that system into the system in order to modify that periodicity, one has to break down its closed system nature... and for those really paying attention to the article, when shaking the box, one has also to break down its "even" or "binary" nature. Notably, is is done by adding more information- noise - to the system. Or to be clumsy about it, entropy is maximum information gain.

"He that hath ears to hear, let him hear."

See you on the flip side...

(For the wanting the original paper, see:

Observation of Time-Crystalline Eigenstate Order on a Quantum Processor

42 thoughts on “A NEW STATE OF MATTER? TIME CRYSTALS…”

  1. Loxie Lou Davie

    Am reading Billy Carson’s “Compendium of The Emerald Tablets” for the second time; this time disregarding all the amazing info Billy included…….just to hear the words of Thoth.

    He describes the way in which to take control of your own “being”……seems like we are doomed to this reincarnation hamster wheel until we figure out we CAN free ourselves from it!! THEN….we are free to travel the Universe to explore!!

    He describes Beings able to construct cities from the aether by simply using their minds!! That reminds me of the story of a wh=bl. who, while in Viet Nam, had curious experience. He was slogging thru’ mud in a very bedraggled state, so started to imagine that he was on a sandy beach running in flipflops. He kept that picture in his mind & to his surprise(!) he WAS soon running on a sunny beach in flipflops!!

    That tells me that we ARE powerful Beings, capable of many things of which we are unaware because we have been kept in a dumbed down state for centuries!!

    Speaking of crystals brings another wh=bl. story to mind. This happened in our Air Force during a training session. There was a military figure giving a lecture when suddenly, he was transformed back to his natural state, as a crystal??? Apparently he could only hold himself in the form of a human for only a determined period of time?!!!

    I would say we have no clue all the forms of life that exist in the various dimensions. Apparently, if we can learn to control our own Personal Being, then we would be able to explore them & reincarnate in whichever realm we wish?!! 😉

  2. Time crystals? Where’s H G when you need him, eh?

    The famous HG Wells had such a time crystal to guide his time machine back when. Makes one wonder whose idea is getting barrowed today.

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  3. So an easy way to break the system is to allow the border walls of the box to remain open while shaking, letting in vast amounts of additional noise…

  4. DARPA is interested in Time Crystals. The DRINQS program will study exactly what its acronym stands for: Driven and Nonequilibrium Quantum Systems. DRINQS will fund research for more than just time crystals. Its mission is to study the weirdness of quantum mechanics. They are very interested in atomic clocks and time crystals.
    https://www.darpa.mil/news-events/2018-01-18

    “One exciting potential application for extremely precise atomic-based time measurements is measuring gravitational fields, which could be very useful in tunnel and cave detection,” Lukaszew said. “In principle, existing atomic-clocks can keep time precisely enough to measure gravitational field differences over the distance of a few feet, but it could take weeks to process the measurement. If we can engineer a system that doesn’t lose its coherence as fast and can be re-tuned very quickly, we could potentially make those same measurements in half an hour.”….Gravitational fields and tunnel detection…How very interesting.

  5. Sounds like an iteration of what Poincaré discovered in 1890, referenced as the “Poincaré recurrence theorem”
    From Wikipedia (yes, I know, but it does give a good summary:

    “In mathematics and physics, the Poincaré recurrence theorem states that certain dynamical systems will, after a sufficiently long but finite time, return to a state arbitrarily close to (for continuous state systems), or exactly the same as (for discrete state systems), their initial state.

    The Poincaré recurrence time is the length of time elapsed until the recurrence; this time may vary greatly depending on the exact initial state and required degree of closeness. The result applies to isolated mechanical systems subject to some constraints, e.g., all particles must be bound to a finite volume. The theorem is commonly discussed in the context of ergodic theory, dynamical systems and statistical mechanics. Systems to which the Poincaré recurrence theorem applies are called conservative systems.

    The theorem is named after Henri Poincaré, who discussed it in 1890 and proved by Constantin Carathéodory using measure theory in 1919….”

    1. Wouldn’t be surprised if HG Wells, Jules Henri Poincare, and Jules Verne discussed this time travel business a time or two together. They each had something to do with spatial travel in one form or another.

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  6. This has me thinking twofold, no pun intended: 1) Of Gödel’s incompleteness theorems and 2) of those ancient systems of how numbers were viewed, i.e., even numbers were female and created sameness or the octave, and odd numbers were male and gave differentiation to the system…

  7. “When shaking the box, one has also to break down its ‘even’ or ‘binary’ nature.” So even numbers represent sameness, and odd numbers represent differentiation? And differentiation, or variations on a theme, necessarily implies a trinary? Where have I read those things, or heard that music, before…

  8. anakephalaiosis

    1. The brain collapses, in the attempt, to understand itself. That is the crucial point, when defeating the dragon brain.

    2. Plato’s Cave is a dragon cave, where light plays tricks, in shadows cast, upon the wall.

    3. Diametrical oppositions, in mirrors facing mirrors, create a multiverse of derivatives.

    4. Placing the observer’s eye, into the well of light, is samadhi, the exit from Plato’s Cave.

    5. Breaking the seventh seal is liberating one’s awareness, from the clutches of the dragon brain.

    6. Awareness, outside the brain, is a field, that one could call: “Buddha field”, of limitless consciousness, heading in all directions, at same time.

    7. Buddha is the laughing Buddha, because breaking free of karma, is a hilarious sensation on mushroom trips.

    8. Originally, Pratyahara means “from + close by”, and it is the process of developing speed, by programming automatic reflexes.

    9. Speed is crucial in martial arts, and Okinawan Karate is bone-breaking kinetic energy, added to Shaolin Kung-fu. (Shotokan’s Secret, Bruce Clayton).

    10. The brain is the head of nerve system, and awareness outside the brain is riding the dragon, that Chinese call Chi.

    11. Scythian myth of origin has the warrior breeding with a dragon female in a cave, spawning a triad, (ie diametrical opposition and point of balance, samadhi).

    12. Karmic cycles, and diametrical oppositions, added to the compass, summons up the ideological origin of the West.

    13. Elohim-Yahweh, as astronomical and agricultural year, defines the alchemical year, as the ideological point of origin.

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/7zqjhdvk7d21yl0/scythian-for-dummies.jpg

    1. Samadhi is a high state of consciousness, above Maya, where consciousness observes reality as being the construct of the three fundamental Gunas: Sattva, Rajas and Tamas.
      In this state, consciousness perceives reality as being a persistent illusion, a stabilized dream: moreover, being its own creation. And this creation hasn’t been made once for all but is a permanent creation, that can be changed in the blink of an eye.
      However, in this state, consciousness perceives also its perfection and the fact that there is nothing to change in the Maya world, as it’s only an illusion that balances the enlightenment, the necessary cycles of light and day, life and death, etc.
      Therefore consciousness remembers why “we” created it in the first place.
      I’m getting a bit esoteric here, but it’s good to remember this story in these Covid times.

  9. Welcome to Swordartonline the manga anime meets the novel The Orchid Cage by Herbert W. Franke.

    1. anakephalaiosis

      On the hemp planet, laughing Buddha fell of the chair, rolling on the floor.

      According to Herodotus, the Scythian yurt hippies went rabbit hunting, when the Persian army came, and they had sauna, with hemp seeds burning.

      Today it’s called pot.

  10. Robert Barricklow

    Knowing Google; the problem “they” have stem’s[perfect google word] from their predictive behavior.
    You see google knows that predictive science is possible, even though fundamental equations maybe unknown in this time frame; it is known that atoms and molecules respect organizational laws[as will google machine humans of the future], and that these laws also operate at the level of individual atoms, organized in a respectful hierarchy via new google organizational charts, as one moves up the google chain of command & control, from the qubit to the universe itself.

    One problem.
    Empty space.

    That google atom; nearly a perfect void; 99.999999999999% empty space. That google hydrogen atom[Supreme Court of Denial in the near predictive future, gives google hydrogen atom patent rights].
    Where was I? Oh yea, That google hydrogen atom in outer space is HUGE, compared to the density of the particle matter w/in each atom.

    But, empty space is an oxymoron!
    Like Google, doing no evil!

  11. stopped reading at: “It starts with a thought experiment.”

    However, I would just like to say that those idiots at Google will end up killing us all.

    Google went full up government surveillance back in 2002 or thereabouts when the CiA moved in.

    1. Robert Barricklow

      The Clowns In America financed that, and Facebook, and Amazon.
      These companies don’t get the action & money, w/o the connections[IMO].
      They’re connected to the international banking cartel.
      Hell, the Nazis are in bed w/them; as well as international criminal syndicates.

  12. Renascence
    BY EDNA ST. VINCENT MILLAY
    All I could see from where I stood
    Was three long mountains and a wood;
    I turned and looked another way,
    And saw three islands in a bay.
    So with my eyes I traced the line
    Of the horizon, thin and fine,
    Straight around till I was come
    Back to where I’d started from;
    And all I saw from where I stood
    Was three long mountains and a wood.

    1. anakephalaiosis

      EVENT HORIZON

      Running rabbit was running late,
      when he mushrooms ate,
      attempting time kill
      in standstill,
      stepping through stargate.

      1. anakephalaiosis

        By the way, “the three” symbolize Trilithon, integrated into the Gospels, as three wise men and three crosses.

        An empty archway, made from three stones, marks point of entry and exit, in incarnation.

        In Old Norse, High, Just-as-High, and Third have the same gate function.

        The three-in-one stone (Pi-portal) is the last Rune symbol.

        https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/bgsuow5w7ynrqvg/stargate.jpg

        https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/jial7yo3l209585/calic-ryne-stafas.jpg

  13. I’ve noticed differences in rolling digital dice and physical dice in RPG games that are both like D&D. Digital seems to have certain combinations repeat more often than they tend to do with dice. And some combinations more readily occur rolling physical dice than will ever happen with a computer. I’m really good a rolling multiple sixes and high numbers by hand than ever seems to happen under computer generation. Maybe because computer randomness has less physical variables in play than rolling dice physically? And computer logic is artificial and a separate operating system outside the Universal Consciousness connections of everything else in the Universe. Quantum computing may have less variability built in by it’s very nature. Especially since quantum entanglement is involved and there is much they likely haven’t observed and learned about it yet.

  14. Robert Barricklow

    Thought experiment.
    What if you[or a box] could separate totally from the universe?
    [what if your thought processes could separate from the universe?]
    So the whole thought experiment comes w/the caveat,
    to think outside the influence of the universe – is possible – [is it really?]
    That’s thinking waaaay outside the box, isn’t it?

    The more I read of the qubit time crystals; the more I though of the casino odds. Supposedly, not fixed; after all the numbers are in their favor. But temptation of man, is not. Somewhere in all this confusion, is there an observer to collapse the wave?

    Also, disregarding the observer; by substituting the qubit chip, doesn’t quite cut the mustard[universe] – out of the box – thinking.

    My thoughts have sometimes queried about the universe being, in entirety, a quantum computer – time crystal – to the the n’th degree[in each hyper-dimension], reacting as a whole; and in the same breath, individually.
    In other words, unimaginably masterful and subject to chance, and spiritually living interactively w/the group observers, and doing the impossible w/individual symbolic attention to intensions.
    Of course, no one understands what I’ve written, as it is waaay outside the box; smackdab in the center of ….?
    Nothing.

    “We know
    what we are, but
    know not what we
    may be”.

    1. Robert Barricklow

      Couldn’t quite decide betwixt the two quotes;
      The eyes see all
      but the mind
      shows us what
      we want to see.

      An interesting blog that really gets the noodle
      spinning in all kinds of scenarios.
      A purposed destruction, for creation’s sake?
      A theme; that runs deep, and throughout the universe?

      And, is it truly binary?
      Can anything be outside the hyper-dimensional-domain.
      Except the universe itself; both w/in & w/out, in the same breath.
      Group and individual as one, and as whole?
      And how can this be done?
      By illusion, of course!

      And, to run outside that binary domain,
      close w/the third [triadic] quote:
      “Give every man thy
      ear but few they voice.”

    2. Some suspect that is part of what transhumanism is really about. Gaining the ability to digitally think and act on the physical universe via an artificial construct that is alien to the natural order and Universal Consciousness. Perhaps they hope to escape God’s ability to influence them under their artificial creation and even wage war with God’s creation to replace it all with one they design and control. A bio-mechanical Borg under digital conscious evolution and design instead of Universal life consciousness evolution and design.

      1. Think with this line of thought. CERN could be an attempt to discover a way to create artificial particles to build a new kind of physical universe under their design and control. Synthetic biologicals to replace natural biologicals. Digital, quantum, and/or artificial particle based technologically created and designed consciousness platforms and operating systems to replace the natural existing one. Perhaps another alternate dimension already exists and operates this way and those alternate dimensional entities are looking to move in and replace ours with theirs. Or some of ours are just gearing up to wage war with God’s creation to one they hope to create from scratch.

        1. The monsters these mad scientists create will eventually take on a mind of their own and get out of their creators’ control. If these idiot savants had absorbed a little of the accumulated wisdom of the ages — from literature, philosophy, history, religion, etc. — they might realize that. Or maybe not… if they’re too far down the road to sociopathy or psychopathy.

  15. As long as we’re spit-balling here. This closed-system alternation between binary states, is this not us? Our consciousness alternating in rapid fire between conscious and subconsciousness awareness? Between here-not-here, time-no time, sun facing vs. stars facing, white hole vs. black hole. As above, so below. Or turtles all the way down. At CERN they say they are looking for the god particle. Google’s “time crystals” sound like they are trying to understand the structure of consciousness. Remote viewing is not limited by time. Google is all about predicting behavior so it can be manipulated and controlled, or at least taken advantage of. (Yes. Grammatical chaos.) So my guess, mea culpa – didn’t read the article, is that Google is studying consciousness to get a deep grasp on mind control. Ciao.

    1. Scientists, and computer scientists all the more so, think we are a closed-system alternation between binary states. Their thinking is locked into a binary, closed-system paradigm. But does that paradigm actually reflect the natural world, or are they projecting their bias onto the natural world?

  16. Perhaps my quantum ears got isolated from the universe. Always felt these ideas as much a definitional shell game as theories on big bang, black holes, ……….

    1. Hold hand in a vertical position.
      Slap fingers down against palm.
      Note the resulting slapping sound, although attenuated from the two-handed technique.
      Optional: With the other hand, reach for the popcorn and enjoy the show.

  17. Lemuel Gulliver

    Indeed. And thanks to Joseph for extrapolating the macro Cosmic ramifications from this bizarre story from the micro Quantum Universe. Another ‘As above So below’ example and as mankind we probably sit somewhere around the middle area between these. If bringing in more information (also known as light) into any situation is the key to improving it, then perhaps we could re-look at and reconsider very traditional and well tried practices like meditation and prayer. Of many different types. To help open up or give us more options in the box or boxes that we find ourselves in now.

  18. This is a wopper. Shifting back and forth between order and chaos – isn’t this life itself?

    1. On a roll Anak. Thanku. Btw, the pingpong nun chaku is an old favorite cgi. Gotta think Lee would have loved it. And worked to replicate it.

      1. An amazing man. I share the same birth year, but – alas – little else. Though gone, he continues to inspire and teach. What confidence! I know little regarding his earthly existence. Would like to learn more.

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