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INJECTION MANDATES, CANADIAN STYLE

While I was busy with company this weekend, the authoritarian regime of Justin what's-his-name in Ottawa, Canada, has apparently decided to impose injection mandates for all of its federal government employees and the federally regulated transportation sector, according to this article shared by B.H.:

Government of Canada to require vaccination of federal workforce and federally regulated transportation sector

As usual, one gets the usual boilerplate of "concern", and the usual omissions, obfuscations, and other nonsense that has accompanied the planscamdemic narrative since the beginning:

The Government of Canada today announced its intent to require vaccination as early as the end of September across the federal public service. Vaccinations are our best line of defence and for those few who are unable to be vaccinated, accommodation or alternative measures, such as testing and screening, may be determined in each situation, to protect broader public health by reducing the risk of COVID-19.

As the country’s largest employer, the Government of Canada is committed to playing a leadership role by further protecting the health and safety of public servants and the communities where they live and work across Canada and around the world.

In addition, as soon as possible in the fall and no later than the end of October, the Government of Canada will require employees in the federally regulated air, rail, and marine transportation sectors to be vaccinated. The vaccination requirement will also extend to certain travellers. This includes all commercial air travellers, passengers on interprovincial trains, and passengers on large marine vessels with overnight accommodations, such as cruise ships.

The government will engage with key stakeholders, including bargaining agents and transportation sector operators, as we plan for the implementation of these initiatives. Details will be communicated as the work unfolds. The process will include determining how this requirement will be implemented, through confirmation of COVID-19 vaccination and other means of protection, such as testing when necessary.

Further, the Government of Canada expects that Crown corporations and other employers in the federally regulated sector will also require vaccination for their employees. The government will work with these employers to ensure this result.

There's a word - actually several words - for this, among them "draconian," "authoritarian," "tyrannical", "totalitarian," and so on.  The omissions here are the usual ones: (1) that the mRNA "vaccines" are not vaccines at all in any traditional sense of the word, (2) the PCR tests are unreliable, and (3) there is not conclusive and compelling argument that the virus was ever isolated at all.  And of course, there's the usual dodge that there's no logic whatsoever in the planscamdemic narrative at all: If the "injections" work, why the need for masks? If masks work, why the need for social distancing(and vice versa), and so on.

Normally readers here will have noticed that I've avoided talking about the planscamdemic in my daily blogs. I've done so principally because most people - presumably including Canadians - are sick and tired of it simply because the goalpost keeps moving. With this measure, Trudeau & Ass. are signaling there is no return to normal; after all, "normal" would be respect for individual freedom and rule of law. Yesterday, I posted a short "tidbit" article about protest marches in Canada against the great reset.

So I have to wonder - and maybe you do too - what would happen if all those Canadian government employees and transportation workers just... said... no....

See you on the flip side...

59 thoughts on “INJECTION MANDATES, CANADIAN STYLE”

  1. President Joe Biden has said he and first lady Jill Biden would receive a THIRD shot of the COVID-19 vaccine to boost their immunity against coronavirus.
    It increasingly seems the policy of ‘no jab, no access’ is being rolled out across many countries.

  2. Just Saying No is no longer an option. Israel is now leading the way on forced vaccination and mandatory Green Passes for everyone over 3 years old! It will soon come to the USA.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-58245285
    Israel is now requires anyone over the age of three to show proof of vaccination or a negative Covid-19 test before entering many indoor spaces, as it tackles a sharp rise in infections this summer.
    Restaurants, cafes, museums, libraries, gyms and pools are among the venues covered by the Green Pass system. However, proof of immunity is not needed to go into shops or malls.
    The country’s Covid-19 tsar said it was “at war” with the virus despite its world-leading vaccination programme.
    I believe that there is no going back on the loss of our freedoms. The change is permanent.

  3. From Ethical Skeptic:
    Article: The Gestalt-Heuristic (G-H) Gap and Its Impact Upon Understanding
    https://theethicalskeptic.com/2021/08/07/the-gestalt-heuristic-g-h-gap-and-its-impact-upon-understanding/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

    “The vaccine was no longer a vaccine ‘anymore’ (sic), because under United States law it could not prevent the infection of the individual who received it.”

    26 United States Code § 4132(a)(2

    The term ‘vaccine’ means any substance designed to be administered to a human being for the prevention of 1 or more diseases.”

    However, there was no ‘anymore’ about it. The science had been corrupted by means of the G-H Gap from the very beginning. These stark changes in ‘settled’ scientific claims both torpedoed support for mandatory vaccination inside the public mind and engendered therein a deep cynicism that government and public health officials were speaking with the right epidemiologists when they formulated their vaccine strategy at its inception. Trust in public health was essentially violated and consequently underwent even further erosion.

    These failed ex ante and errant estimates necessitated the development of a series of booster shots based upon the exact same intervention approach which had failed in the first two shots (two shots for most vaccines). In addition, the transmission/viral load potential negated the supposed benefit of the vaccine in terms of rate of transmission, and as well rendered their mandatory enforcement upon citizens, a serious violation of human rights.”

  4. ”We as a company simply cannot take the risk if in … four years the vaccine is showing side effects,” Ruud Dobber, a member of Astra’s senior executive team, told Reuters in 2020.

    UK Gov Consultation document: changes to Human Medicine Regulations to support the rollout of COVID-19 vaccines Updated 16 October 2020:
    The current legal framework already recognises that if manufacturers or healthcare professionals are asked to supply an unlicensed medicine in response to a public health threat, it is unfair also to ask them to take responsibility for the consequences of the use of that medicine in the way that they normally would.

    I believe it is also ‘unfair’ to those who experience serious adverse events from such unlicensed experimental procedures, and this should be considered if they have their jobs threatened for not ‘taking the procedure’.

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2109908 Clinical Features of Vaccine-Induced Immune Thrombocytopenia and Thrombosis
    Among 294 patients who were evaluated, we identified 170 definite and 50 probable cases of VITT.

    CNN reports –
    The overall mortality rate for VITT in the study was 22%.
    Researchers also found that 41% of patients presenting with VITT had no diagnosed underlying health issues.
    Of those who reported a past or current illness, the study found that no conditions or medications were prevalent that “would be unexpected in the general population.”

    They are coercing people into playing Russian Roulette, and using threats and intimidation to achieve this goal. Yet still they seek your ‘permission’ to do so. Pure EVIL.

  5. If the Borg were taking over my ship and there was no escape, I would choose the only way out left to me. If someone else out there is able to trigger an auto destruct sequence, to blow the whole ship, then, at this point, I would merely experience mixed feelings as opposed to outright horror. Like the Borg, I have “adapted” over these many months to the idea that everyone around me is committing suicide and engaging in genocide–however witlessly. To view them as evil, might “be a reflection of my own darker tendencies,” but my ability to rationalize their fitness to survive has also worn thin, even as my awareness that there are fates worth than death has been constantly fortified–falling into their hands for instance. If the semblance of all Humanity is already ended–or about to be–then it’s hard to get excited about its death–or rendering into a, dare I say, inessential state…. Best, Chris

  6. How interesting that the so-called freedom-loving people of the World show they are really groveling thralls. Who will believe any nonsense if it is cloaked in whatever the belief system reigns at the time and is delivered by the holy wise men of the time. Your masters only wish to protect you if you believe that there is a bridge I can sell you.

    1. You are correct in your use of the term “so-called freedom loving people.”

      Most people today have no idea what civil freedums they ever had… they weren’t using them anyway… so how should they be expected to know about them?

      There is a yawning gap in our psychological development as a species.

      Frankly, I understand the view of our masters at Davos and Bilderberg – yes, we may be human beings with the ability to understand higher concepts and cooperate/communicate with each other… but the sorry fact is that the vast majority of us live life on a different plane – the plane of ordinary, day-to-day SURVIVAL, and our masters simply don’t agree that we should be allowed to travel, own cars, or gather in large groups because we are not in control of ourselves or destinies, and WE ARE NOT SURVIVING VERY WELL.
      Case in point: next time you go to the supermarket, look at the contents of people’s food baskets.
      You will see that for every person buying real food – fruit, vegetables, a bit of good quality meat – there are ten people buying simulated, nutrition-free crap to feed themselves and their kids.
      This does not bode well for society. People are so dumb they can’t distinguish between food and garbage.

      1. This presumes that the Davos crowd are any better at care of their health – as if they deserve more self determination than the vast majority of us less well informed peasants.

        Have you seen what a slob Bill Gates or Klaus BumSchwab is when they’re not wearing their usual public appearance wardrobe?

  7. My report from the Western Front(I live in San Diego):
    The corporate medical systems here have become the most egregious and bellicose to their employees. The employees were given until this week or Monday to turn in vaccination exemptions. They then have to sign paperwork that if the exemption is upheld, they will wear a mask and get tested twice a week. They are then told that their exemption request will go before a board of doctors and lawyers to see if it is accepted. Their employers(Scripps, Sharp, John Muir(up North)) emphasized that they will do everything they can to deny the exemptions. The employee also had to sign a record release so the committee could get the record involving the release and talk to the doctor writing the release.
    Then they are told if they don’t get the shot by Sept.30th, then they will be terminated for their voluntary actions. I thought that was interesting.
    I started writing exemption letters for people last week and over the weekend came to the conclusion that they would not work unless someone had some serious condition we could document, such as blood clots or prior reactions.
    Then with further thought, I determined that the exemptions are only a band-aid and people need to stand up and say no. They are. They are saying, “I am a valuable employee to you and I am not going to take this.”
    So a couple encouraging things:
    1. Everyone I saw today about this was adamant they were not getting the shot. They are digging their heels in.
    2. I supported them by giving them the Frontline Doctors legal paper to take to Personnel.
    https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/609462860f3394d5991a85fd_Employee-Form-Covid-Injections.pdf
    3. These hospital systems can’t function with reduced staff. They are already struggling. The people I saw today will get fired before the shot. One girl was a pharmacy tech. She said in a department of 5, 3 of them will leave rather getting the shot. My Mom tells me that her Chiropractor’s daughter works for a nurse registry and is having trouble finding nurses to work.
    The system is going to fail if they fire people.

    I am still shocked at how the medical system caved into this nonsense.

    1. Robert Barricklow

      Perhaps your just now seeing the medical system; for what it really is,
      and has always been[by Rockefeller design].

      1. 5 years ago, this would not have happened.
        The small individual practices have been starved out. The older docs have left and you have young doctors complicit in the brainwashing.
        Now, you are stuck with the bulk of dr’s only able to practice within large medical systems.
        This was systematically done over the years. Increase cost and regulatory burdens and hassles and decrease payments through a monopolistic insurance compensation system.
        Now, the doctors in the systems are made to document on electronic records which are monitored by high school educated people. If they don’t check the correct box, such as, “Did you talk to the patient about the vaccine?” they get pulled aside and talked to by administration.

        1. Doctors used to be independent owners of their own practices. Now, they are employees expected to follow directives from those who are only concerned with profits.
          When money is everything, anyone or anything can be bought.

    2. sorry… “shocked” at how the “medical system caved?”

      the entire medical system IS the problem. What did you expect?

      You have to understand that there is a large majority of the population that is terrified. they wouldn’t accept being handled or treated by a filthy, unvaccinated murderer who obviously wants to contaminate them with the deadly virus.

      We are fighting a propaganda machine without peer.

    3. We must consider the possibility/likelihood that they want the healthcare system (such as it is) to collapse. All more grist to the genocide mill.

  8. Sorry for the long post but what we’re witnessing is significant to not only America’s survival but that of the world. My question is this abject incompetence or under the guise of incompetence is this intentional? Consider

    – If plan was to leave small State Dept group behind to coordinate with NGO assisting transition, why was the embassy not cleansed then those folks moved up to Bagram base with sufficient troop/spec ops as security contingent? Bagram would be defensible as well as abandoned helicopters, missiles/launchers, misc armament/ammunition left behind could also be secured until moved out?
    – Why were Americans KNOWN to be in country not be briefed with evac plan with evacs commencing weeks ago?
    – Why are we hearing now the Military was left out of planning only appointed Pentagon and State involved with biden Admin?
    – Even though left off the page, why was Military unable to plan to arrange for commando, interpreters, informants to be briefed and readied for evac?
    – We’re hearing Intel 3 months out warning Taliban would invade Kabul immediately following US pullout – PresDailyBrief would have included that – why did biden Admin ignore them? Who has requested the PDB to examine?
    – Reports from Afghanistan KNEW Taliban was closing in on Kabul for 3 days
    – Region’s Fighting Season is from May 1st through September, peaking in August. PDJT agreement with Afghan govt was BEFORE 5-1-2021. Biden’s decision to leave was 8-14-2021 at the height of Fighting Season where Taliban would be most nimble and fortified.
    – Where is outrage from politicos in Washington – Marjorie Taylor Green and Matt Geitz are the only call outs
    – Photo release of biden in golf shirt at Camp David situation room alone with London/Russian clocks reflecting UK Summer Time or – where’s the challenge to that phony pic? Why was monitor images used in pic clearly focus on Dohar CIA station chief – was he outed on purpose? Incompetence?
    – Defense One photo of one of early flights out with 630 Afghanis (nearly all males) in belly of C17 – only 150 Americans on flight – why are Americans not prioritized?
    – Estimates of 5-10,000 Americans remain – Why don’t we have a firm count on that? ALL Americans must register w/Embassy when entering country (do they report regularly when still in country?)
    – We’re now hearing up to 100,000 Afghan refugees being brought to US – why ot to mil bases in region or among our “allies”? Why unvetted So/Central American hordes unvetted being delivered to mil bases throughout US? So/Central illegal are being distributed around US in mil overnight flights. Will Afghanis be treated the same? What are the plans for American cities to handle this influx?

    My thinking at this point is US/biden communists/China collaborated w/Taliban providing support and removing obstacles to take over Afghan govt. (1) China benefits with Belt&Road clear path to EU via Iraq/Afghan/Syria/Turkey. (2) China already controls +80% of ALL rare earth minerals – US has stopped mining – Obummer years ago. Afghanistan has largest in-ground reserve in world. (3) China has exclusive access to heroin (4) Chaos of Afghan debacle ties US into knots impacting an already weakened and dysfunctioning military (think CRT/Trans/vax chaos) defending a So China Sea defending China’s Taiwan invasion threats (5) Taiwan is single chip source outside of China. Taking over Taiwan eliminates US supply of chips tossing US back decades further weakening economy and military. (6) US/biden Communists benefit from the unimaginable chaos in bringing Afghan refugees along with So/Central illegals into US stressing people, cities/towns. Chaos evolves into protestsviolence providing basis for UN to be called in for handling the violence (7) Within the chaos Pelosi/Schumer joinGreen Deal with Infrastructure Bill through reconciliation. Green New Deal will require all American bldgs. And homes to be retrofitted with ‘green’ modifications eliminating std carbon based housing materials. Costs will be insurmountable for home owners. (8) Firearm confiscations (9) Weakened America ripe for UN to carve up into districts much like the Mideast was divided up. (10) Economy collapses mtg defaults Americans as well as inability to meet green requirements they cannot protect property title – property ownership abolished
    America no longer exists and blended into NOW. ‘We’ll own nothing and be happy.’

    1. Yeah – it’s almost as though some puppet master was pulling strings to get a degenerate political elite to destroy the US. But hey, that sounds like a conspiracy theory.

    2. Steve Jinks (Ex Post Metronomus)

      We have all the lithium we need in giant slag heaps in the US made by sifting for other minerals. Two patents came out this year allowing it to be recovered. Think that’s a coîncidence?

      If we cant go electric due to shortages, then thats fine by me thats good for freedom.

      ill use gas as long as i can get it, green tea if my car runs in water, or a homemade steam engine if it comes to that.

      1. For electricity you can always use solar and wind… you will just need a good battery storage system.
        We are about to find out how much electricity a home actually needs.
        Fact is, we have been generating power that is often wasted because energy just comes out of a wall socket.

        1. China is very happy with the green deal as they will be making the solar and wind panels along with the batteries. It’s no surprise China isn’t required to lower carbon emissions until 2030 per the Paris climate deal.

        2. We put up pv panels in 2006 – grid tied.
          Battery systems are ongoing problematic unlimited cost.
          Tried it on 2 hybrids since 2003 as well.
          3 batteries later we spent way more on batteries than saved on gas.
          That was with nickel metal hydride.
          Lithium costs are worse.
          None of this takes into account catastrophic environmental damage in production of these techs.
          Nor does it factor in petroleum/coal/gas fuels used in production.
          It’s all more disaster capitalism profiteering on our goodwill.

    3. It’s just possible this Afghan debacle is a way of getting rid of both Afghanistan and Biden. The handling of it, which he probably had little control over, makes him look bad, very bad. Notice he’s basically been alone when making difficult statements. They put out a video of him alone at a large table doing a video meeting. It turned out the video violated security by showing CIA officers’ faces in what was id’d as the Doha station. Just him at the big table. Not seen lately: Kamala, DOD schlubs, the PC clown who’s currently the senior US military officer. Some big changes coming up?

      1. My sentiment exactly. In July Biden was sure everything will go smoothly in Afghanistan. Did somebody sell him a false peace of military intelligence??? On purpose to discredit him completely, and ultimately ask for his resignation?

  9. It would put a stop to this non-sense if everyone said no, but a third of the population are secret sadists and like to see others squirm, and another third always take the path of least resistance so it’s not likely. But the real intent of this may be to identify and purge out the third of those in the system who would resist what’s planned next. Just like the US military’s mandate may be an attempt to identify and purge most of those who would resist the orders they will be given next.

  10. Robert Barricklow

    Work for Big Brother?
    You’re a bother, and Big Brother wants those bothersome Big Bother “properties” put on a fast-track, jabbing conveyor belt of the new experimental control operating systems. These bothersome human employees will be made into highly efficient and highly controlled machine. Of course, a lot of eggs will be broken along the Big Brother Davos financed highway towards The New Re-Set[aka ownership utopia].

    “For those unable to get vaccinated.”
    [read for those who still express freedom of thought].
    It is actually quite sickening to read their hogwash;
    followed immediately by scribbling lip-stick on said hog.
    [Presumably the pilots are private proprietary contract protection?]

    The Crown corporations?
    Presumably that means under the Thumb of the Red Queen.
    Fortunately its not an immediate, “Off w/their heads!”. Instead it’s a
    slow kill-shot, 20th-Worst Century style[liquid mind bullet via needle jab].
    Absolutely no questing the Red Queen! This is not Alice’s Wonderland.
    “The government will work w/these employers to ensure results.”
    [Read, corporations do as said; or, no more chartered Wonderland.]

    But unlike Lewis Carroll, Oxford professor of logic; the real Queen’s lands have no logic. In reality, they are programmed w/cognitive dissonance galore; especially, in the mass media covid1984 black op theatre of the absurd.

    But what if all those Canadian government employees did like
    Alice in Carroll’s Wonderland; and actually, not only questioned authority – but replied w/an emphatic NO!

    1. Robert Barricklow

      The above Canadian government’s article is an excellent example
      of George Orwell’s description of: “Political language …
      is designed to make the lies sound truthful and murder respectable,
      and give an appearance of solidarity to pure wind.”

  11. “omissions ”
    I would add an omission: 4) treatment (versus “vaccine”) was available early on. Treatments involving hydroxychloriquine and ivermectin which is apparently the more effective, can be used to limit the effect of the virus. The patient should emerge will little or no damage if treated *early* on, and have a natural immunity which should be stronger and less prone to being evaded by virus mutations than the experimental spike protein “vaccine”.
    Common criticisms of ivermectin efficacy are that the expensive lengthy controlled studies usually carried out by pharmas on drugs they expect to make large profits from, haven’t been carried out. But neither have they been for these spike “vaccines”. Ivermectin came into human use 30 years ago and has had few bad side effects show up. The spike protein “vaccines” already have some bad side effects showing up, are already showing some limits to their efficacy, and who knows what will be their record 30 years from now?

    1. Treatments were demonized in a very dissonant fashion early on because if you had a viable treatment, then the shots could not qualify for emergency use.

    2. Ommissions numbers 1,2,and 3 are the fact that there is no contagion based on a fraudulous germ theory.

      Suppose you have to go from the supermarket to your house every day through a large dark forest. In the forest is a big blind monster with a sense of smell 1000x stronger than that of a dog. You know the monster can eat you with one bite, but the only way home is through the forest. You also know that the monster can only detect you if it smells your fear, so you should try to walk through the forest without fear. If you are not afraid, the monster will not smell you. As long as you have no fear, the monster cannot find you, because it does not smell your fear trail. So you have little chance of overcoming your fear, because at the slightest fear you already produce a hormone that smells the monster at a great distance and drives it towards you. That gives an extra dimension, because every time you get scared, you know that the monster has come closer. It is your fear that the monster will drift towards you. But luckily there is a way out! You can decide not to be afraid and walk through the forest in complete confidence. Then you know the monster doesn’t stand a chance, because it simply can’t find you. What are you going to do?

  12. You can actually refuse the vaccine under these mandates, you just have to agree to have a Nurse Ratchet ram an 8 inch swab to the back of your skull every week…. not exactly the “beheading for refusing the Mark Of The Beast” they talk about in Revelation…. but, you know…. Its all pointless and political anyway. The only real way around all of this is to vote these masks marxists out….

    1. Swab is graphene delivery system.
      Why go deep on a virus so communicable to require masks and distance?

      1. Maybe true…. just saying, it’s the only realistic way most of us can resist right now…..😢

  13. Well Canada’s awake friends in France have been saying “no” every weekend for the past couple of months. Massive demonstrations in Paris and across France, yet Trudeau’s French mate Macron will not budge and intends to implement Covid Passports for entry to public places, museums, cafes, restaurants, shops, theatres, cinemas etc.
    https://www.euronews.com/2021/08/07/protests-against-covid-19-health-pass-held-across-france-for-4th-consecutive-week
    https://www.ft.com/content/8e94ff2e-6bf0-442c-be60-385ffc393f53
    It is not surprising that Montreal has joined the demonstrations.
    Italy has already implemented Covid Passports in public places – known as the Green Pass.
    UK is wanting to implement them for nightclubs from September.
    No vax, no entry!
    We can only hope that The Sleeper Awakes.

    1. Recently I’ve noticed that “Wachet Auf” is being played a lot on popular Classic music radio stations…..classic FM in the UK particularly…..or is this ‘ end of twig stuff? ‘

    2. Michael,

      In case you didn’t read the article, the people in Moscow didn’t say no by protesting like in France, but vaccinated and unvaccinated alike boycotted en masse all businesses that required the passport. That’s how they got the government to back down.

      I live in France and there has been no such show of solidarity among the people, more like the opposite with most racing to get their passes so they can get into cafés, sports matches etc.

      These stupid documents are now required to sign up for various cultural or sports activities and I will not be joining in the fall for this reason. I don’t want to set foot anywhere that requires these documents, but am obviously in the minority. Even people who are against the needle are looking for ways to get the “pass sanitaire” without the injection – like for example, by getting a positive cov test which gives you a valid pass for 6 months.

      People aren’t looking past the needle and the virus on this subject and they should. They don’t see that they are agreeing to a system that is communistic in its control. If the virus threat disappears (when they decide it’s over), the passes will live on and have other obligations attached to them.

      Peope will wake up at some point but it’s looking more and more like it will be too little too late.

    3. Just waiting for the UK Gov to reverse the decision to vax children before they return to school in Sept, given the latest report. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2783052?utm_campaign=articlePDF&utm_medium=articlePDFlink&utm_source=articlePDF&utm_content=jamacardio.2021.3471&fbclid=IwAR3fqObKirAL9hx55zPdGSvKOONj7lR9-ckw5YobaYT_TUzY21_gqxb6yMY

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9880909/Study-Teenage-boys-14-TIMES-likely-suffer-rare-heart-complication-Pfizers-jab.html?fbclid=IwAR3AegLivrsZ8q_RTK8oj9jQ6axvoaT33BojJsCm7fRg-EsSFQQVhqsc5fc
      Teenage boys are 14 TIMES more likely to suffer rare heart complication from Pfizer’s Covid jab, study warns amid growing calls for No10 to rethink plan to inoculate 16 and 17 year olds.

      A few weeks ago when my 9 year old grandson was sent home from school to self isolate due to someone in his class testing positive, the Track and Trace offered his parents the ‘opportunity’ of a vax for my grandson. They refused.

    1. Some months ago Putin already has comprehensive surveillance on every person. He probably has no need for vaxpass.

  14. My thought: If they do not, a lot of help wanted ads in 36 months. I am assuming guv attrition is not a game plan. Time will tell. (Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.)
    But seriously folks, Just say no, resurrected from the Nancy Reagan era, would seem to be appropriate now than it ever was.

      1. They make it tough though… there’s only so much people can or “can’t” do…. so much people can “consciously object” to…. nobody wants any of this, but so many of us aren’t able to completely leave the system and spend a year in a protest encampment out on the streets either… but its going to come to that for alot of us anyway….🤧😭

        1. I think the choice is coming down to (1) making huge sacrifices of one’s income, comfort, and social acceptance now, or (2) becoming a totally surveilled, totally controlled slave tomorrow.

          Many people are going to go along with the tyranny on the assumption it will allow them to keep their jobs. I think a lot of them will be surprised to find their jobs disappear over the next decade as massive government austerity, AI, and robotics are put in place.

          1. My point exactly as well… now is REALLY the time to start making clear and preemptive descisions and preparations… and soul search over what you can do with and without for the forseeable future… unfortunately most of us are just going to have to live with the descisions we make. I hate to have to come from a standpoint of compitulation and defeatism and necessary submission… But not even the Soviet Union and the totalitarian regimes of Latin America and Africa lasted forever… and even Red China and the Muslim regimes of the Middle East have had to loosen up over time. Sorry, I’m just being real about a possible, impending outcome here in the West. I’m personally an imcrementallist by nature and a cautous fighter…. especially when I’m defeated. Maybe I am in a ratty, twerpy round about way saying it’s not going to be THAT bad… we’ll be able to fight our way out of it!! Whether some resist immediately or imcrementally….

      2. I prefer discretion. Speaking of valor – true story: Forty years ago I was riding my Honda 250 scooter in a tough neighborhood in San Francisco. A low rider car with four extremely tough looking dudes inside – followed closely. After increasing speed and evasive maneuvers for a while, I concluded I should stop a face what may come. The driver asked how much I was asking for my scooter. I had forgotten the For Sale sign recently taped on the scooter. Lessons for me: many.

        1. Awesome story.

          Vast majority of serious folk I have known were so easily typecast as bullies. So much so that most of the anger I saw them feel was anger at people expecting bad behavior without giving them a chance to do good. On the other hand, have seen that attitude used as cover b4 and after crimes.

        2. Can’t top that story 😁 Dove tails just a bit to what I’m saying too…. we find most threats tennable if we are sheepishly brave enough to face and find out what they actually are every now and then! Plus, there’s many different ways and timelines to fight something and be effective….

      3. @scarmoge
        Disagree. Acquiesence gets bad results with cannibals. Solzhenitsyn warned well. Being gradually eaten sems a dubious reward.

    1. To listen to Clif High and a few others, they want to crash the system – in less than 36 months.

      Please come up with a plan for those in the majority of population who are already up against a wall and not able to say no, if they want to eat and have a home.

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