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AFGHANISTAN, BIDENENKO, 9/11, RUSSIA, AND THE SAUDIS

There's an odd story going on in the background of the Afghanistan fiasco, and I strongly suspect that in the labyrinthine and murky ways of Swampington, D.C., that it may have something to do with that fiasco. And amid the justifiable - if not noisy - criticisms of the Bidenenko regime and the apparent multiple layers to the debacle, this story seems to have been swamped right out of the spotlight, overwhelmed like a New Orleans levee.  The story was spotted by many of the regular contributors of articles here, so my thanks to all of you who spotted it and passed it along.

So what's the story? President* Bidenenko has apparently ordered the declassification of some documents regarding 9/11, apparently in response to pressure from some of the 9/11 victims' families:

Biden signs executive order to declassify some 9/11 documents

Even in this verbiage-rich information-poor version of the story, however, there's something that caught my eye, and it's this:

Still, the practical impact of the executive order and any new documents it might yield was not immediately clear. Past investigations have outlined ties between Saudi nationals and some of the airplane hijackers, but have not established the government was directly involved. How the release of any previously withheld documents might change that assessment is not known.

The Justice Department revealed last month that the FBI had recently concluded an investigation that examined certain 9/11 hijackers and potential co-conspirators, and that it would now work to see if it could share information that it had previously determined could not be disclosed.

But, the families said Thursday, "thus far, no additional substantive material has been produced, and the FBI has not agreed to make a further effort to find its missing documents." (Boldface emphasis added)

Indeed, anyone who has investigated 9/11 will be familiar with those strange and murky Saudi connections, not to mention a whole host of other connections - think only of Mohammad Atta's very weird and persistent German connections - in the 9/11 plot. The Saudi aspect of the story remains one of the most troublesome and least  explored, but it has been known. What needs explaining is why it has taken so long for the government to respond.

What's intriguing to contemplate is the timing of the declassification, which occurs in the time frame of the ongoing Afghanistan debacle, and the geopolitical ramifications which, in this author's opinion at least, will continue to unfold in coming years. Already we're seeing significant reactions from American allies, including this one:

Russia, Saudi Arabia Sign Military Pact amid Biden Chaos in Afghanistan

Note that this article makes it clear that the Russian-Saudi arms deal, the exact terms of which are unknown, is being touted as a response to the collapsing American situation in Afghanistan:

“We aim for a progressive development of cooperation in military and military-technical fields on the entire spectrum of issues that pose mutual interest,” Shoigu said, according to Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (RFERL).

Neither signatory party specified any of the deal’s terms, but RFERL noted the signing occurred outside of an arms expo in Moscow. Russia is the world’s second-largest arms exporter aside from the United States while Saudi Arabia is the number one state purchaser of military hardware.

The United States has historically been a major supplier of weapons to the Saudi monarchy. Former President Donald Trump maintained close ties with Riyadh, aiming to bolster the regime against Iran. His arms sales to the Saudis prompted congressional rebuke and Trump subsequently vetoed measures to block arms sales to the country. President Joe Biden, however, reversed course and suspended arms sales to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates this year.

Russia’s outreach to an agitated U.S. ally also follows Biden’s decision to extend the Afghan War for an extra four months, breaking a deal Trump brokered that would have resulted in an organized military withdrawal by May 1. Biden’s August 31 deadline – on which he has since doubled down – has prompted tens of thousands of U.S. citizens and allied Afghans to swarm Kabul’s international airport in light of a Taliban takeover of the country last week. Thousands remain trapped in the country as of press time following the Taliban’s successful conquest of Kabul and the evaporation of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan’s forces.

To be sure, the Saudis reached out to Russia during the Trump administration's term, so it is not as if this deal is a sudden response, but it does perhaps betoken an awareness on the part of both principals that America's reliability as an ally and arms provider came into question earlier than the collapse of its position in Afghanistan. But it also suggests that position was known to be collapsing by anyone with half a brain - that would be the Saudis and the Russians, who are apparently operating with their whole brains - long before its televised certification.

Which brings us to today's high octane speculation: How to interpret the declassification by President* Bidenenko? Here I must admit, I am as clueless as the next guy, but I do have suspicions which time may or may not confirm. Is it an attempt to couch his Afghanistan policy in terms of a wider reset of policy? Is it, in other words, an attempt to distance the current administration from the Neo-con policies  pursued by the regime of Bush the Stupid (Bush II) and presidents up to Bidenenko? Perhaps. Is it perhaps a response to the need to get out of an over-extended position to free up troops for use against growing Chinese provocations? Perhaps. Or is it perhaps the response of a weakened regime to external pressures from other foreign interests (think China)? Perhaps. Indeed, on the latter score, I've had difficulty throughout this whole fiasco trying to understand how - and why - an evacuation could have been so ineptly mishandled. From any operational point of view, it makes no sense to evacuate the military before evacuating equipment and related civilian populations, unless of course the objective is precisely to arm the Taliban, and create another "Iran hostage crisis", and is this declassification a response to those deep state actors which really created the whole mess in the first place by exposing their presence in the mix by way of the declassification itself? Note, that if that last question is true, then one is confronted with the implication that the current executive is struggling with the same entrenched deep state interests as the previous executive. Again, perhaps.

The bottom line for me is that there's much about this Afghanistan fiasco that makes no sense, and that we're dealing with something multi-layered whose apparent failures predate the Bidenenko regime. Those failures were not suddenly planted and harvested by the current President*.  They've been festering for two decades. The President* shares much of the blame for what has happened, but not all of it. If you, like me, suspect that the whole thing dating back to 9/11 has been a bit of orchestrated if not gruesome theater, then perhaps the President's* recent declassification order is an attempt to draw the curtain back, and expose some of the hidden actors on the stage.

Time will tell.

See you on the flip side...

 

40 thoughts on “AFGHANISTAN, BIDENENKO, 9/11, RUSSIA, AND THE SAUDIS”

  1. FBI has finally declassified some documents relating to the 9/11 attacks. All thanks and praise to President Biden for making them do it.
    The BBC news reports that the FBI has released a newly declassified document that looks into connections between Saudi citizens in the US and two of the 9/11 attackers. Relatives of victims have long urged the release of the files, arguing Saudi officials had advance knowledge but did not try to stop the attacks. But the document provides no evidence that the Saudi government was linked to the 9/11 plot.
    Fifteen of the 19 plane hijackers were Saudi nationals.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58533538

  2. As one story has it, gen.milley us quite happy with how the troop withdrawal went. Now instead of UN troops they can use Afghan troops against the unvaxxxed American populace.

  3. Joseph, there is something much deeper and bigger happening in Afghanistan.
    Read this from the BBC about Pakistan drones and the Panjshir Valley (where the Afghan National Resistance Front NRF are holding out).
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/58480299
    Pakistan has long been accused by the US, UK, France and others of providing support for the Taliban, which it has always denied.
    Does Pakistan have its own drones?
    Yes, it does. In March 2015, Pakistan publicised the fact that it was using drones against militants operating in its own territory, in the North Waziristan tribal region.
    https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2021/09/lifting-veil-pakistans-chinese-ucavs.html
    I have suggested before on previous article of yours that we at GDS could be witnessing the opening of the first of the seven seals and the Taliban could be one of the horsemen of the apocalypse (war).

  4. If the Russians and the Saudi’s are in bed together with an arms deal it means that a financial deal is in the offing. I suspect a new currency deal and a new understanding about oil sales is in the offing. Tear up Brenton Woods and enter a new currency perhaps backed by commodity’s like for instance…. oil? And a guarantee of regional security…. Hmmm.

    It might work out better than worthless fiat currency’s especially if you can corner the oil market…

    The Great Reset Marches On!

    1. I suspect the Great Reset won’t happen. I suspect it is checkmate for the western powers. No matter what the Banker Black Nobility or Monarchs of the west do they may be over. As may be the captured US and all it’s allies. Russia and China seem to have won; the removal of the crowns/bankers will just be a formality. Zionism and the Nazi Eugenics crowd are also defeated though they may not realize it yet. They and their agenda was well played against them. China has already announced their victory but few took them seriously because they don’t see the big picture yet. The corrupted elites of the west behind the virus and great reset will likely be brought to justice if they survive by the Chinese, Russians, and their allies. If I’m seeing things clearly, well played Russia and China. Hope you have mercy on those of us left in the west who did not allow ourselves to be corrupted.

  5. I think there’s a bit of sandlot baseball going on – the Kleptocrats vs. Technocrats. As we see on the surface the aligning of odd bedfellows, the lines are being drawn in the sand, teams picked and the winner rules the world. Or to put it another way, the Old Guard Cabal is warring behind the scenes with the New Guard cabal. The threat of declassification of 9/11 documents by the New Guard Technocrats against the Old Guard serves a couple goals. By revealing the Saudi as source for the False Flag execution of 9/11 (1) the Saudi, MIC, the Bushites and Central Bankers will be seen as the bad guys taking the heat/focus off Bidenenko and (2), the Old Guard’s hold/control on the Great Reset can be negotiated to include more input and control of the New Guard. I’ve got a submission for this Friday that sheds light on this war…

  6. *Cough cough* dancing Israelis later appearing on Israeli TV as acknowledged Mossad agents there “to document the event”: the towers’ vaporized/sublimated steel cores; the USGS study finding >micronized< copper (from the telephone wiring) as well as hugely elevate tritium levels in the bathtub water, but all the office paper didn't burn and rained down in the also micronized concrete ash; and NYFD pouring water on the glowing ruins for months (what moderates a nuclear reaction folks?) …

    Sure, it was the Saudis. Rolls eyes. The Saudis are the Lee Harvey Oswalds of 911 — the patsies.

    1. Oh, and as for Afghanistan, that was a MIC (military industrial complex) lemon that was squeezed for 21 years, a whole generation. The US prosecuted WWII against both Japan and Germany in three and a half years. A nation of rocks and goatherds? 21 years. Another Vietnam, same MO. They left because the lemon had been squeezed dry, Halliburton and the rest had gorged their full at the Pentagram pig trough, and the rare earth mineral mines had been exhausted.

      A couple of fun facts: about ten years ago, I ran into a posh Brit at a function and he was an elite party planner, so I asked him where was the hotspot at the moment? He said Kabul; they were shipping in cases of Crystal champagne weekly. Also, John McCain owned a chain of dry cleaning shops in Kabul to launder the hush money.

      Ah, psychopathy in action writ large. So comforting.

    2. Dag from Ringerike

      There is a long laundry list of what was happening that contradict the official story. I think I read the story that the planes that went into the towers, a revelation by Jim Fetzer, that the planes still exist. So what went into the towers? Well, what the US has been good making, missiles, at least to that time. And they had to be filled with fuel to create the plane narrative, This kind of an operation will involve a hell a lot of people, as the other aspects of involvement for the different procedures.

      And, of course, on a table on a late evening, with wine and bourbon, truth will be exposed when people are talking. I think today, the majority of people on the top eschellon today know what was really happening and they know who was behind it.

      There must have been thousends of people involved in this complex operation and the planning must have started several years before it happened.

      The same observation I will forward, many years of planning, especially the syncronization of all the Western nation to act in the same way, started at the 12th of Mars last year, and the same propaganda topics appearing on MSM all over at he same time. Very clever, but, but, the internet (alt media) is contradicting their narrative, and it is a growing spread of alternative information.

      When we now are nearing the end of our Western financial system, maybe the shut down of the alternative media will be one of the objectives to controle the population. I am not sure that this will work. To many people are out of MSM already.

      My thoughts, Dag.

    3. Basta, the towers weren’t vaporized, they seemed to have gone “poof” and were dustified. 9-11 seems to have been a demonstration rather than a terrorist attack, you mention the lack of damage to the bathtub, inconsistent if the aim of the exercise was to cause damage, destruction and chaos. The rail tunnels to New Jersey could have been flooded, imagine the problems that would have caused.

  7. It’s a complex situation for sure, and almost impossible to parse out the various pieces. To me, though, the idea that the current administration is at odds with the neo-con / internationalist / 9-11 faction of the Deep State is pretty hard to believe. Does this administration even have a strategy, will, or power of its own that might allow it to challenge any really strong adversary inside (or outside) the U.S. power structure?

    For now, my hunch is Mr. Globaloney, having seen it was possible for someone like Trump to get elected, decided the U.S. should no longer be the global military hegemon. If he can’t count on every U.S. administration to bend to his will, then Mr. Globaloney needs to get the military firepower out of the U.S. president’s hands. Part of the plan also seems to be to discredit the U.S. in the eyes of the world as much as possible. An embarrassingly senile puppet as president fits the bill perfectly.

    Bidenenko being blackmailed by the Chinese (and/or Mr. Global having decided to fully back China and fully drop the U.S.) is my other high-octane speculation. To fulfill its energy needs and economic ambitions, China needs a stable Central Asia that’s not under U.S. control.

    1. Your middle paragraph resonates with me completely. COG is a name of the game , at least on American soil. By the way where did N. Pelosi disappear in last 2 months?

      1. Pls let me expand on the “COG” if I may…Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld have been champions of COG (Continuation of Government) for years, even when either of the two was “out” of gov service. Most don’t know COG was implemented on 9/11 and to my knowledge has never been rescinded. This could explain decisions like Afghanistan that make no sense to us. These guys definitely have an agenda. And remember Cheney has no heart. Really.

  8. Looks like we may be allowing the Belt and Road to get under way and the faction opposing it has lost power. Russia, China, and the Middle East are gearing up for a new rennaisance with the smart cities. The west may purposely descend into a tyranical nightmare while the Belt and Road countries become the new center of prosperity. After a few years of tyranny the west will finally be greatfull to have Chinese and Russia style form of government compared to the horrors put into place in the west. We will be happy when we finally are allowed to have half the freedoms we currently enjoy again. I suspect we in the west will be betrayed though and even that will never be allowed to come about. We will be utterly destroyed if we are foolish enough to give up our freedoms, power, and prosperity. They will replace our countries with a new population.

    1. Sa a person who spent first half of my life under a communist/ communist light regime this statement:
      “After a few years of tyranny the west will finally be greatfull to have Chinese and Russia style form of government compared to the horrors put into place in the west” sounds like pure sarcasm.

      1. It’s a psychological warfare tactic. If they force the west to give up our most cherished freedoms we would never be happy about it. If they take it all away and give us their worst we might be happy when they finally pretend to relent and give us a little bit back. The middle ground may be their true objective but in order for us to see it as good we must experience the worst. Many in power in the west, might sell us out for that, if the price is right enough for them. But not if they realized the true objective was our complete destruction and replacement, which also includes them. Once they are in a position of weakness, thinking it will lead to greater power for them eventually, they will no longer have the strength to stop the true objective.

        1. China, I suspect, expects to acquire a lot of new territory soon. Otherwise why would they suddenly start encouraging family growth, strength and stability? I still think it’s just a matter of time before Jihad comes to Europe. Interesting times ahead one way or another.

  9. Since the two objects that are called the President and Vicepresident are not at the helm state. Who is running this circus and is the plan to throw the USA under the bus what will be the profit of this act? As for Saudi Arabia why is it buying all these weapons since they can’t use them properly in the first place witness its Yemen campaign.

  10. Dag from Ringerike

    My background, I am a former process engineer, working for several decades in different types of plants; brick works, nitric acid plants, paper mills et cetra. When this Saudi connection coming up again; how could this backward nation make this sophisicated operation happened?

    Well, when a plant is shutting down, a lot of suggestions are supposed. But at last, the devil is in the details to make it running again.

    About 911. There are three details. The dancing Iraelis, all fighter jets dispersed from New York airspace, and two of the alleged airplanes vaporized, still exist, accorrding to their genuine numbers. Maybe there are more details?

    For me, this is the US911saudibullshittrain emerging once again.

    All the Best, Dag.

    1. In Norway, the dancing Israelis join hands, around the Christmas tree, singing Kol Nidre carols, at the court Jews’ castle.

      Norwegian entrepreneurs, who have the chutzpah of wanting to be king, are labeled antisemites by default.

      Of course, that is a game of monopoly, that demands antitrust legislation, to combat overpriced beer.

      A drinking man is king of brew.

      https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/guxh06kpqxxk2o9/looney-tunes3.jpg

      https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/utw7krt7hrsqegs/looney-tunes.jpg

  11. Declassification? Fine. . . . Some declass on building seven would be fitting, too. In any case, those assorted files will likely be incomplete as they usually are.

  12. Gawd, the govt hasn’t even fessed up to all activities from WW2! Or the Kennedy assassination. What makes you think that any data (save accidentally) would come out that would give a clear and accurate statement of the true facts? 50 years from now people will still be waiting, same as “trusting the plan” baloney from Q-tards.

    1. Your comment jogs my memory of events going back decades. Fifty years ago I wrote an article related to the House Select Committee hearings related to events of (and before) 1963. Twenty five years ago the news program Frontline dispatched a reporter to interview me, and a former associate, regarding specifics related to my decades old article. The first question asked of me was, “Are you a conspiracy Buff?” It was insulting. I suspect his question was in part related to my comment in the conclusion of the original article that I suspected that fifty years hence people would be asking the same questions as those do today regarding the events related to President Lincoln’’s demise almost a hundred years earlier (drawing on a writing assignment at age 14). Point is: Some things never change, but are recycled narratives. Buff? Only the shoes, please. Never again tuned in to 60 Minutes. Long rant, I know, but that’s how it sometimes goes.

  13. Robert Barricklow

    Several stacked operations going on at once;
    or, it your prefer: Matryoshka doll operations.

    The literal framing of certain individuals, and/or countries.
    Those being framed can jump through several hoops;
    and then the CIA press, spins another narrative.
    Still, who can trust the “incapable of agreement U.S. “; and as far as the CIA goes? Well, both may as well be one in the same?

    As far as what’s taken the government so long on 9/11?
    What government?
    The mythical one? The COG one? The CIA one? The Military one?
    I could go on; but, just pick one of the few mentioned?
    For example, the Military one.
    Which military faction is in charge? Today? Yesterday? Tomorrow?
    And that goes for whatever government you pick?
    USA or U.S.S.A.?
    Or?

    Yet, where is this “NWO’, this “Great Re-Set” presence; in all these Afghanistan stacked-deck operations?
    Are “they” the dealer?
    Go for the vaccine Re-Set and you get Saudi Arabia’s arms business. Saudi-Arabia, gets patsy protection and military arms that beat American weapons on the “show & tell fields of battle”.
    [no the breakaway weapons; “they’re” keeping those close to the vest].

    But you get the idea:
    The Re-Set is dealing out all factions in the U.S. government[s].
    After all; the NWO/Re-Set, was purposely was breaking down the USA, w/the help of the international banking cartel and factions w/in the CIA and congress.
    And don’t forget; w/the help also of just about every traitorous international inst1tution you could imagine.
    Especially, the international press.

    Bottom line?
    That depends on whether the bottom line remains – human;
    or, has been Re-Set to an inhuman bottomless pit.

    Those are the battle lines.

    The “inhuman’s” were pulling those 9/11 strings[at every level].
    Are “they” still pulling those powerful levers?

    What does the human bottom line have?

    A God that allows men w/free will to make mistakes?
    What is the human spirit?

    I am the spark of Rebellion that exists in times of oppression.
    I am the freedom that you seek while shackled.
    I am the potential that defies limitations.

    The bottom has always been:
    We all have responsibility to our common man.
    To neglect them and allow evil to fester
    when we have the ability to stop it
    is a moral failing.

    Spirit is ant1thetical to an oligarchical system.

    1. Matryoshka set from Moscow always seem front and center for international affairs as well as rounding their local borders. Where they are dezinformatsiya is likely nearby as well as contained within.

      Yuri Andropov, Soviet leader and Komitet gosudarstvennoy bezopasnosti (KGB) head, said the following about [dezinformatsiya];. . “If you sniff once or twice, it may not change your life. If you use it every day though, it will make you an addict – a different man.” . . . A significant correlation is what media has fallen into – continual obfuscations, omissions, falsehoods, agenda driven narratives with an occasionally spackled factoid attached to insight interest that distracts, and just plain lies for *clicks*. Standing back and observing one can see the addiction associated derision that tries to divide.

  14. As always geopolitical moves on a chess board, can and should be considered multilayered. This one is particulary cynical in my opiniom. Big powers including RU and USA are trying to instigate a proxy war with China in a Middle East. Nothing like fighting each other away from own territory. And of course WWII has been a best economic boom in a history of economic booms for US, why not to try another one. This time Russia hopes to make some money too, hence the sell of arms by both countries to SA. Big War in ME is comming. Afganistan debacle is part of it, a prelude if you like.

    1. Even some higher up Taliban have also realized this but as usually too entrenched in their hell hole of
      religious tribal clan mentality to fix their own country. Anyhow in the big picture, whats in for the banksters with Pakis and CCP on the same side over Afghanistan, then China against many over Taiwan?
      CCP brass forgot to read Sun Tzu and the wisdom of multi arena wars are always a lost cause?
      Ah! but not for bankers!

  15. It looks to me like the Biden faction is trying to re-gain control of the 9/11 narrative in the current episode of The Truman Show, probably in an attempt to mis-direct/distract us from something else (like the truth!). There is much chatter at present about an imminent and major false flag incident, so perhaps preparing the narrative for that somehow?

    1. gave u an answer in the other topic

      on this one: it is quite apparent that they are consequentially undermining every US gov backbone, if there is any left. bidenenko seems like the endliquifier of the USA. thought that would be trump. but maybe he will return?

      1. Sure thing, I have elaborated further, on the Tibetan connection, at length, under previous topic.

        In Old Norse, the Indo-Scythian Dharmachakra becomes an eight-legged horse, and that is an 8-point compass.

        Buddhists may be surprised, to learn, that their source of inspiration is mare-milk drinking headhunters, that smoked pot in hippie teepees, and were hell on hooves.

        Laughing Buddha was high on Saka seeds.

      1. After reading Herodotus, one realizes, that laughing Buddha was high on Saka seeds, and that field excursions, into Scythian realm, can be accomplished, by smoking weed.

        In the name of science, and the holy ghost. Amen.

  16. Just some ‘Facts’ to consider in this mix of things:

    Saudi Arabia is a Kingdom. Nothing happens within the Kingdom without the knowledge and consent of the King. Should the King not give his consent, then heads will, and do, roll.

    Bandar-Bush (Bandar bin Sultan Al Saud)
    This man has had murky dealings with Reagan-Bush since the very early 1980’s. Most of the Mujahideen fighters in Afghanistan were trained in Saudi Arabia. Then, he was the go-between money man in Iran-Contra-Mena Arkansas. Bandar has had SEVERAL trips and meetings to Russia, including the purchase of Intermediate Range Missiles, missiles capable of being armed with nuclear weapons, from Russia.

    9/11 Families
    There are several outspoken 9/11 Family members who have wanted to sue Saudi Arabi since mid-2002. After all, several of the hijackers were trained in Saudi Arabia (see point number one). It was these family members who were pressuring Biden to release ‘The Documents’. Trump balked at this, instead making direct personal ties to the Saudi Royal Family.

    Hani Hanjour, one of the 9/11 pilots
    Hain Hanjour, from Saudi Arabia. Never flown a plane in his life, much less a sophisticated twin engine jetliner. Hanjour performs two perfect spirals downward from 7,500 feet and crashes the plane directly into the Pentagon. He just ‘happens’ to hit the building directly in the location where the files detailing the missing Two Trillion Dollars worth of un-accounted funds are being kept and studied.

    Yeah Right!

    So,
    This is either lip-service to the 9/11 families on the eve of the 20th anniversary of the event (Inside Job) or it belies that there is some serious infighting going in both in the US and internationally.

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