F.L. shared these two articles - and some speculation as to their meaning and implications - and this is a case not only of you tell me, but a case where I am going to depart from my usual practice of quoting and commenting on the articles. I'll just let you read them, and then dive right in:

Operation Pineapple Express Saw Special Ops Vets Lead The Rescue Of Hundreds Of Afghans

Now F.L. had the same reaction to this story that I had: the rescue of even a few hundred Afghani's trying to flee certain retribution from the Taliban has, at some point, to have a logistical commitment to get those people out of Afghanistan, and that commitment implies in turn money. These two facts raise some questions about the operation. (1) Having rescued these people, are they then being evacuated by the normal American channels? That is to say, is the only special part of Operation Pineapple merely the fact that remaining US special forces have done this action on their own, and that the rest of the operation is being conducted through normal military channels? Or, (2) is the entire operation more or less a private operation, raising the questions that if that is the case, who is providing the logistical and financial support?

Unlike F.L., I'm reading these articles differently, namely, that scenario number (1) is the most likely.  If it was (2), then F.L. had a further speculation, namely, that the ultimate role played was by the intelligence community, creating an Afghani exilee community in the USA similar to the post-Castro Cuban exilees in Florida, the ones who went on to form the core of the Bays of Pigs Invasion force. I'll not comment on that possibility, because the implications are obvious.

I want to concentrate on the first scenario, because that's the one with the implications that - to my mind - may have "the Powers that Be" spending a few anxious moments, for the implication is clear: namely, that in spite of official policy, special forces units are acting and conducting operations at variance with that policy, and that means, like it or not, at variance with the chain of command in Swamptington, D.C., or perhaps with a nod and wink from some higher ups.

If that reading be correct, then in its bumbling stumbling inept way, the Swamp could exacerbate matters by courts martial of those involved... or they can play it smart, and ignore it long enough and hope it goes away...

See  you on the flip side...

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. Nidster - on September 2, 2021 at 4:15 pm

    While many good ideas and thoughts have been expressed in this Blog there appears to be a hidden, and more sinister agenda afoot. Just consider on August 2, 2021 the US Dept of State issued this statement: “Department of State is announcing a Priority 2 (P-2) designation granting U.S. Refugee Admissions Program (USRAP) access for certain Afghan nationals and their eligible family members the opportunity for refugee resettlement to the United States. This designation expands the opportunity to permanently resettle in the United States.”

    The ‘scuttle-butt’ is that enough blank Special Immigrant Visa (SIV)’s were printed to allow an army of individuals to come to America even if they did not have qualifying employment, or because they have not met the time-in-service requirement to become eligible. Give some consideration to the old ‘Trojan Horse’ story, and let your imagination run wild.

  2. Michael UK on September 2, 2021 at 7:01 am

    Well it’s one minute to midnight in Afghanistan and it’s now or never for the West and our Western values of democracy. Will we support the Afghan Resistance Movement in Panjshir Valley?
    Ahmad Massoud (son of the Lion of Panjshir) was educated at King’s College London, England where he obtained a BA degree in war studies and then went on to train at the Royal Military Academy in Sandhurst, England with the best of the best in the military.
    Will the West back him? Or is it game over? President Biden, Prime Minister Johnson?

  3. Tulips Moran on September 1, 2021 at 11:11 pm

    There’s also a story reported of an Israeli group running extractions out of Afghanistan. This group had rescued Afghan Women’s soccer team along with 23 other individuals. Interesting read.

  4. Tulips Moran on September 1, 2021 at 11:06 pm

    Other than using the dogs to clear IEDs the Muslims consider dogs unclean and will not touch them. Remember Obummer wouldn’t allow Beau the family dog on AF1. The dogs were let loose but I would suspect they would be target practice.

  5. Tulips Moran on September 1, 2021 at 10:48 pm

    According to several interviews Eric Prince gave regarding his spec ops contractors – they worked with Afghan commandoes like an underground railroad set up where various images like the pineapple were used to move people along/around chceck points to the airport where Prince’s team was communicating with military contacts within the airport who would look for them and then allowed access. they would be exfilled via the mil and other nation mil and private aircraft. When biden shut down the airport BEFORE the military were started to board, the US State Department had been busy calling surrounding countries requesting they not allow air space/landing/takeoff to these rescue teams. Then these rescue teams would take some via land out of country – didn’t mention route/direction. almost immediately State Dept then called those same neighboring countries and requested no land/border access. The other teams were working with people like Michael Yon retired spec ops/now war correspondent who learned orders were given to not admit Americans into the airport complex. He released several emails last night that documented the State Dept made that call. Prince did negotiate a $6500/person charge to rescue journalists (thought to be WSJ) they refused the fee and leaked to Washington Post the $6500 fee. Hey Corporations pay much more and like Prince said they had the means to cover his insurance and potential losses. There is a foundation that Glen Beck stared a while back that takes donations to rescue Christians from all over the gold. Thomas Barton from the Nazarene foundation had been active in moving Christians out of Afghanistan, many to the Kabul airport. However in telephone interview with Sen Tom Cotton Beck also said State Dept was getting in the way of their rescues. As for price I believe nonprofit foundations and charities are covering expenses like Rep Mulllin’s renting a helicopter in Tazekestan and bribing folks along the way. His team rescued 20 Afghan/US Citizens translators and commandoes along with an American woman and four children. From the interviews and reports I’ve reviewed I don’t believe any of those rescued paid anything.

  6. marcos toledo on September 1, 2021 at 8:35 pm

    Which brings up the question who is really in charge of the dog and pony show that calls itself the USA. As for the military dogs left behind it looks like they are being recruited the Taiban the West seem to believe that the new government are idiots.

    • Tulips Moran on September 1, 2021 at 10:52 pm

      Other than using the dogs to clear IEDs the Muslims consider dogs unclean and will not touch them. Remember Obummer wouldn’t allow Beau the family dog on AF1. The dogs were let loose but I would suspect they would be target practice.

  7. johnycomelately on September 1, 2021 at 5:04 pm

    I’m going to say the Afghan adventure was an outstanding success and the apparent debacle was a ruse to deflect that the US is in cahoots with the Taliban.

    Since the 90s the TAPI pipeline has been planned to transit gas to India from Turkmenistan via Afghanistan and Pakistan headed by the US company Unocal (of which Hamid Karzai was an employee) and Saudi oil company Delta (which is in cahoots with the Taliban).

    The purpose of this is to bypass Russia and Iran and ensure US dollar hegemony.

    Obviously the only political faction with the clout to guarantee the safety of the pipeline was the Taliban but the fractured group needed a unifying enemy to consolidate power and destroy extremist factions. Hence the US propped up a temporary government to facilitate the building of the pipeline.

    The cream on the cake was leaving the weapons to ensure Taliban hegemony and pipeline safety.

    • Richard on September 1, 2021 at 6:10 pm

      The leaving of US arms, munitions, and hardware could easily have been a down payment for the Taliban to fight ISIS-K. There’s a lot of folks indigenous to that region who do not play well together in that rough terrain despite playing well in that terrain.

      • Foglamp on September 1, 2021 at 8:16 pm

        ISIS, Al Qaeda and the Taliban are all the creations of US intel.

    • Foglamp on September 1, 2021 at 8:24 pm

      The best laid plans of mice and men oft go astray. Think Keystone XL.
      I think the CCP used their control files on Biden and his family to make sure it’s the Shanghai Cooperation Organization pipelines that go through Afghanistan, not anyone else’s.
      The fall of Kabul is a significant, pivotal defeat for The West, not an outstanding success at all.

  8. Syncromyst on September 1, 2021 at 4:17 pm

    On April 1, 2021, CBS premiered the sitcom, ‘The United States of Al’, which featured the experiences of a young combat veteran and his Afghani interpreter who left Afghanistan to escape Taliban reprisals. This was a Chuck Lorre production, it’s pilot was announced in October of 2019, and the series ordered in November 2020. Withdrawing from Afghanistan was already in the works, timing and logistics. I agree, the government is most likely building an exilee community, why else would sit com king, Chuck Lorre, be producing a sit com on the very subject now? Propaganda is a funny business.

    • Richard on September 3, 2021 at 12:49 am

      HumInt or human intelligence keeps buzzing around the gray matter for some reason. What better operatives to be than those that know the nuances of people, place, things Afghan, and the significance of training.

  9. Marco Fredriks on September 1, 2021 at 3:23 pm

    Behind the scenes there are no enemies and they all playing the script on the same chess board. Only for us they need to create “heroes” so each and every country has its rescue operations with holywood like stories. I read these now from the US media, the dustch media and the New Zealand media. And this is not the only affair where the media paints similar pictures for the perception of the population. It is time to shed off some of our naivety as unfortunately they don’t shy away of leaving collateral damage (real victims like for example in the Ukrainian regime change) behind.

  10. Wu Wu on September 1, 2021 at 3:12 pm

    Kamalama was just in Vietnam, perhaps to cement relations with warlords of the “golden triangle” over new routes for the poppy industry.

  11. DanaThomas on September 1, 2021 at 12:00 pm

    It’s impossible to take this and 99% of the other Ka-bull stories at face value. And speaking of logistics, what about the “poppy routes” managed by the “allies” all these years?

    • Foglamp on September 1, 2021 at 8:06 pm

      The opium question is a good one. I wonder, in the age of FASAB 56 and injectable death and operating/control systems for humans, whether black money from opium and a drugged population are any longer necessary? The Great Reset is supposed to be an upgrade for humanity’s control-manipulate-harvest mechanism and perhaps it makes opium obsolete in that context?

  12. Robert Barricklow on September 1, 2021 at 11:56 am

    What is the mission of Great Re-Set?
    Much the same as Rothschild’s operation to implement U.S. Civil War.
    Lincoln thwarted them, by using the U.S. Const1tution in issuing the nation’s own currency[not borrowing from the private banking cartels].
    The Biden Politburo is implementing policies that divide the nation, to destroy the USA; in favor of a NWO puppet, the USSA.
    Hence, the USA soldiers to the rescue.

    If he or she or they are American; Biden’s controlling Politburo is going to seek to destroy & eliminate: any “real” American that is not a woken imbecile.

  13. KSW on September 1, 2021 at 11:56 am

    Maybe the retired US vets were sponsored by someone outside the US … they could be acting as contractors.

    • shirley ky on September 1, 2021 at 7:17 pm

      AKA Mercenary.

      • Richard on September 3, 2021 at 12:51 am

        Well trained mercenaries.

  14. Joseph Aiello on September 1, 2021 at 10:46 am

    Maybe we do have 2 different governments functioning.

  15. Michael UK on September 1, 2021 at 10:29 am

    According to the ABC news report, Former US deputy assistant secretary of defense and ABC News analyst Mick Mulroy was part of both Task Force Pineapple and Task Force Dunkirk, who assisted former Afghan comrades to escape.
    “They never wavered. I and many of my friends are here today because of their bravery in battle. We owe them all effort to get them out and honor our word,” Mulroy said.

  16. ragiza on September 1, 2021 at 9:36 am

    What’s really in store for Afghanistan is having the US grind it into the dirt with an array of economic, financial, and terrorist operations (ISIK?). I think this is going to make the Venezuela thing look mild.

    Secretary Antony Blinken 1:34 UTC · Aug 31, 2021
    >I want to drive home today that America’s work in Afghanistan continues. We have a plan for what’s next, and we’re putting it into action.<

    • Foglamp on September 1, 2021 at 7:57 pm

      I disagree. I think Afghanistan is already being welcomed into the bosom of The Shanghai Cooperation Organization. The CCP will do its utmost to ensure that the US never re-gains a foothold in Afghanistan as it pushes ahead with the construction of infrastructure to link China with The Persian Gulf and The Indian Ocean. This construction is already well advanced. It will probably grant the Taliban vast amounts of cash and other economic and diplomatic assistance. Whatever it takes, in fact.
      This is why the fall of Kabul is seen as such a pivotal moment in history. It represents a significant change in the global balance of power.

      • ragiza on September 1, 2021 at 9:06 pm

        Blinken and the people controlling him aren’t trying to get back into Afghanistan, they’re going to demonstrate the price of thwarting a deep state resource geopolitical project. If they can’t coerce the Taliban, they’ll tie up money, instigate problems, see that ISIS K or whatever it is gets active. And pipelines are very vulnerable.

        • Richard on September 3, 2021 at 1:03 am

          There seems to be evidence of Sun Tzu, Lt Gen Pacepa, and the Col’s Qiao Liang & Wang Xiangsui all over that emerging socio-economic-political battlefield over there. It’s just missing the bullets that the Party of the east by going west shuns.

  17. ragiza on September 1, 2021 at 9:18 am

    Assuming anything about this rescue operation is true, it was likely carried out by an existing mercenary “contractor” group well experienced in operating in Afghanistan. The funding could be private, some USG dept. or maybe some owner/operator willing to carry it. It’s not a Hollywood Rambo operation.

  18. Michael UK on September 1, 2021 at 9:17 am

    Very interesting and quite fascinating that the nuclear weapons equipped country that harboured Osama Bin Laden in his hideout is now preaching to the Western World about how to avoid wars!

    • Richard on September 1, 2021 at 5:57 pm

      What seems to be taking place over there is some sort of puppet show. Probably out of the same red play book that has been in place over there for decades. There’s just new territory to exploit.

    • Foglamp on September 1, 2021 at 7:49 pm

      Being both a member of The Commonwealth and The Shanghai Cooperation Organization, and having a land border with Afghanistan, Pakistan is in a position to know what it is talking about.
      For what it is worth, I do not believe that OBL had a hideout in Pakistan. Some say he was ill and died several years earlier. Others say he is alive and well and living on his CIA pension in The Caribbean. I think his alleged murder in Abbotabad was faked, a distraction and a misdirection, another episode in “The Truman Show.”

  19. Michael UK on September 1, 2021 at 9:13 am

    So who left the dogs and cats in cages at Kabul Airport? Is it a Taliban rotten and dirty propaganda exercise for the world’s media news channels?
    Pictures of dogs left behind in cages after the US military left Hamid Karzai International Airport were widely circulated on social media, leaving the US Central Command to issue a statement.
    Animal welfare groups – including the Kabul Small Animal Rescue (KSAR) – had been trying to evacuate dozens of dogs and cats from the Afghanistan.
    “To correct erroneous reports, the US military did not leave any dogs in cages at Hamid Karzai International Airport,” US Army Lt Col Karen Roxberry, a spokesperson for the US Central Command, said in a statement.

    • Richard on September 1, 2021 at 6:01 pm

      There quite a bit that seems to be taken at face value since primary sources can not be corroborated due to a new (but not so new tactic) censorship increasing.

  20. Foglamp on September 1, 2021 at 8:28 am

    For me, the key point here is that TPTB are not monolithic. At a certain level in the pyramid, they are a collection of mobs who pursue their own interests. Sometimes, the interests of one mob will coincide with the interests of one or more other mobs, in which case they cooperate. At other times, their interests clash, in which case they compete/fight. Sometimes they probably do both at once!
    I think Operation Pineapple may be the result of one or more patriotic mobs (like, perhaps, America First or one/some of the Jewish mafia mobs) taking exception to Biden’s treason and betrayal and deciding as a matter of honor to do what it can to salvage whatever human (and material?) assets they can from Afghanistan.
    Just a hunch.

  21. anakephalaiosis on September 1, 2021 at 5:55 am

    Ananas Rambo of the sewage canals uses bow and arrow, as the perfect fighting machine. When hunting dragons, the trick is to get the gold, and get away with it.


    Siegfried cast gaze, into forest bonfire,
    as mirror image of own desire,
    burning fast and slow
    in gold, to know,
    that world soul is dragon fire.

    • anakephalaiosis on September 1, 2021 at 6:11 am

      “If you immediately know the candle light is fire, then the meal was cooked a long time ago.”

  22. Chris on September 1, 2021 at 5:47 am

    I have long failed to understand why there is not a discussion of the negative consequences of bringing people who have betrayed their own people and nation to the US. The US is not the first to include this practice when illegally invading, occupying and departing a foreign country. Of course the military imagines it is the good guy, but who wants a neighbor who, the moment the US is invaded, begins cooperating with the invaders and tattling on those who wish to expel the foreign invaders? I do not support the US government but I have no wish to kneel to Chinese or Russian or Iranian invaders. These “refugees” are the worst sort of opportunists and betrayers.
    I have a number of friends who were against the war in Vietnam. The communists were the boogeymen of their parents and they weren’t buying it. Thanks to NPR and other organs of disinformation they have supported the illegal invasion and occupation of Afghanistan because it’s been portrayed as the US freeing women and girls from an evil patriarchy. What sort of misplaced arrogance is required to think that the broken and declining western civilization is above the law and knows what’s best for older societies?
    Thanks to the military the US is hated by much of the world. When we are eventually invaded you will likely see murdered Americans served as entrees in the top Beijing restaurants. Will we be thanking the US military, vets and active soldiers for that, too? Karma’s a bitch.

  23. Michael UK on September 1, 2021 at 5:46 am

    I should think it was a deeply covert operation with the full knowledge and backing of the Pentagon. Whether the Commander in Chief was awake and aware and had been briefed of Operation Pineapple’s progress is anyone’s guess!
    President Biden does haves a monumental critical strategic decision to make in the next few days – whether to support the Lions of Panjshir Afghan Resistance Movement. See these reports for full details:

    • MQ on September 1, 2021 at 5:54 pm

      Hate to break it to you, but the chances of the US helping in Panjshir is zero. Hell, they didn’t even get out all of the citizens and visa holders that were lined up in Kabul. Pudding pants Joe doesn’t know what day it is. All he knows is what lines he has to read. It’d be great to cut his earpiece so someone can’t put words in his mouth with such ease.

      • Richard on September 1, 2021 at 6:04 pm

        It calls into question who, of that administration, really is summoning the resources of the US for Foreign Affairs activities and directives.

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