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GYMNOGYPS CALIFORNIANUS PARTHENOGENESIS

This truly bizarre story comes courtesy of D.D., to whom a big thank you for spotting it and passing it along. It fascinates me because it's about a truly mystifying occurrence that has recently been observed in gymnogyps californianus, or the California Condor, a nearly extinct species of vulture that once graced the skies of the American southwest.  Vultures are amazing creatures to begin with, since they eat just about any old carrion they find lying around, and never get sick... with anything... ever. As a result of this odd fact about these amazingly ugly birds, scientists have been studying them trying to learn what gives them their amazing immunity. And the California condor is no different, except perhaps its a very large bird, and it's almost extinct, having been brought back, as the articles states, from a population of only 22 condors, to a little over 500 after years of careful preservation efforts.

But more than that, it fascinates me for a specific reason we'll get into:

California condors: Virgin births discovered in critically endangered birds

Note the basic story here:

US wildlife researchers have discovered that two California condors, a critically endangered bird, gave birth without any male genetic DNA.

The discovery that condors are capable of virgin births - formally called parthenogenesis or asexual reproduction - surprised scientists.

Virgin births have been recorded in other bird species, as well as lizards, snakes, sharks, rays and other fish.

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The researchers describe how routine genetic screenings of captive birds led to the discovery that two male chicks hatched in 2001 and 2009 were related to their mothers and had not inherited DNA from any father bird.

All 467 male condors in the breeding pool were tested. What makes the case even more rare is that it is the first time that any bird species has had a virgin birth when males were present for breeding.

Parthenogenesis is an extremely rare event, but has been recorded in other species before. It happens when a cell in a female behaves like a sperm and fuses with an egg. It normally occurs in animal populations that have few or no breeding males.

What intrigues me here, beyond that which is stated in the article that these two virgin births occurred when there were male condors in the population, is that the two chicks which were virginally born were male, not female. Ponder that for a moment and you'll see how very odd that is, because in most reproductive processes, it is the male rather than the female that determines the sex of the offspring.  Condors, in other words, may be very unique, not only because they're vultures (and very large ones at that), but because the female, in certain cases, is not only capable of parthenogenesis (virgin birth) but capable also of determining the sex of her offspring. That's quite a feat, especially if one views naturally occurring parthenogenesis as being a special form of "spontaneous cloning", in which case any offspring would be female and not male.

Of course, I'm speculating wildly here  based on few clues from the article, but while we're speculating, lets walk even further toward the end of the twig, and hypothesize what potential mechanisms might be at work here.  One possibility might be that in this instance parthenogenesis is related to (or is an effect of) external factors, such as epigenetic forces or perhaps related to truly external and non-material factors such as Dr. Rupert Sheldrake's hypothesized "morphological fields" or other "transcendent" causes we do not yet understand. Another possibility is that it could, in effect, be a combination of factors such as epigenetic or morphological fields responding to near extinction that may be survival mechanisms in certain species like the California condor.  Yet another possibility might be that this event is somehow related to the vulture's ability to remain healthy on a diet that would be highly problematic for most other species.

And interestingly enough for those paying close attention to the symbolic aspects of this story, snakes, or serpents, are among the creatures that can experience parthenogenesis.

See you on the flip side...

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  1. One is familiar with a little dragon or lizard species that seems to fit that “spontaneous cloning” characterization. They’re called ‘Whiptails.’ They’re a lizard type that one finds in the west/southwestern US. They are known to be unisexual and reproduce by parthenogenesis. The unfertilized eggs hatch into clones of the mother. The business of gender seems odd with those Condors.

    Some folks might suggest that lizards, birds, and reptiles have some common features amongst themselves, one feature being – eggs. Hormones play a significant role in all bio-forms that have them.

    In any case, parthenogenesis seems to be a survival trait of that species of Condors if not a hidden trait from upright simian types. It brings back a memory quote: “Every animal knows more than you do.” ~ Nez Perce Clearly, they know something this upright simian type does not.

    1. anakephalaiosis

      Yes, the Runes are an epigenetic narrative, based on the 32-point time-compass (卐).

      A closed loop is a vortex, that induces a morphogenetic field, around a center (卐).

      Parthenogenesis is an angelic footnote, and a code word for illumination (卐).

      Lizzy Lizard spawns, by Jesuit incubus, and child sacrifice to Moloch.

      Arthur (卐) draws sword from stone, by unriddling Runes, to slay dragon:
      https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/qmp6qxil1ewow10/iq-test.jpg

  2. Or, they made up the entire story to further confuse us with “progressive” talking points – that men can give birth or women can be men or whatever’s they/them/their/its latest challenge to reason. Or to further shame men for existing. Or to encourage public support for transhumanist experiments that they’ve already done but haven’t yet told us about. It certainly wouldn’t be the first time we’ve been lied to and/or manipulated by the scientific community, especially lately…

  3. In the 1970s I listen to lesbians discussing this subject. And I read a book The Second Genesis that mentions virgin births among humans but the males would be born sterile unable to reproduce. Then there are the two science fiction novels Charlie X and the Left Hand Of Darkness that plays around with this subject.

  4. Physical reality is far more “pliable” than we are taught. I have read that some indigenous peoples living in a strong traditional context also had much more control over some of the things their bodies could do, including women mentally controlling whether or not they got pregnant (in the usual way).

    For an intensely eye-opening view of human physiology and what it is capable of, I suggest reading a section of Michael Talbot’s book, “The Holographic Universe,” which starts on page 97; The Health Implications of Multiple Personality. (The whole book is full of remarkable information, and I recommend it most highly.)

    This book also has information on how hypnosis can effect human physiology, on the powers of people like Jack Schwarz, and on an interesting group of eighteenth century religious zealots who were a small group of Jansenists in France, sometimes referred to as “convulsionaires.”

    The bottom line is that what we think of as purely material, physical things like eye color, tumors, moles, left or right-handedness, illnesses, medical conditions like epilepsy and diabetes, and so on, can appear/disappear instantly based on personality or mental conditioning. Some people with this condition have to carry many different pairs of eye glasses due to the differing visual acuity of their different personalities.

    The Seth material also mentions the case of a person with two personalities who was two inches taller as one personality (which could be mostly postural), and whose physical strength was vastly superior to the “original” occupant of the body – he once jumped from the second story of a building onto concrete without sustaining so much as a bruise, something which would land most of us in the Emergency Room.

    Stop and let that sink in for a bit: tumors, eye color, visual acuity, scars, moles, and more, instantly appearing and disappearing simply due to a different “personality” or mental template holding sway over the physical body. This definitely fits with the research mentioned by Bearden regarding “templates” at a higher dimension literally creating physical reality. Something well worth meditating on every day.

    The implications of these studies of the power of the mind are incredible and make a mockery of the last 150 years of allopathic medical research (not that it would be hard to make a mockery of that mess). It is these people we should study for healing and medical understanding, not a bunch of profit-making chemicals which do more harm than good (lifelong revenue streams being the goal with those).

    The upshot is that physical “reality” is definitely a form of mental construct at some level, and under the proper conditions, that we can drastically impact the physical nature of our own bodies at the very least. For me, this is far more powerful research than even Tiller’s work. Pretty much throws reductionist materialism out the window for good.

    And yet, it is mostly ignored . . . at least publicly. We know that multiple personalities were one focal point of mind control studies – even to the point of using torture and sexual abuse to “create” this condition in people, according to some.

    Sounds like condors know something we do not.

    1. Thank you for the recommendation, Jon. I’ve ordered The Holographic Universe and am really looking forward to reading it.

    2. Years ago Linda Moulton Howe said that Bud Hopkins told her that Michael Talbot was one of his UFO abduction cases. That he had been abducted since childhood and that Michael had told Bud that he didn’t write “The Holographic Universe”. That the entire manuscript was a telepathic download from his UFO abductors.

    3. Robert Barricklow

      Read that years ago.
      I remember recommending it to a friend and he ate it up!
      Change his point of view.
      Great book!

    4. Loxie Lou Davie

      Totally, Jon!!! Billy Carson’s “Compendium of The Emerald Tablets”, holding the tale of the Journey of Thoth, speaks of him encountering Beings in his travels through the Universes who were capable of constructing cities & object using the power of their mind & the Aether!! So….I’m assuming we could do the same thing if we had been trained in childhood to know what Powerful Beings we are?!!! 😉

    5. I think the observer effect is something that we humans do every day. We have an idea, we visualize it and create it into existance. The invisible becomes visable. That’s what msm is doing 24/7 to the people by control of their thinking patterns. It works better when there’s fear and high emotions. It goes deeper than being bombarded with propaganda which works on a different level. Human’s are so much more powerful than the digital airwaves, we have a direct and natural connection with the energy fields all around us. We come from nature, we are primary, all else is secondary.

  5. Females do not have Y-chromosomes in their cells to spontaneously generate a male (XY). There is no mechanism through which an X chromosome can become a Y chromosome. You cannot split an X chromosome and make a viable Y chromosome that can bond to X chromosomes. You can only come up with an Y chromosome from an X chromosome through billions of years of successful mutations. It’s akin to having the Mona Lisa and submitting it to random atomic mutations and ending up with Michelangelo’s David. This does not just happen simply and quickly.

    Unless the mothers were viable hermaphroditic mutants to begin with (XXY) or held dormant sperm.

    Or, the transcendent had a hand in expressing its will.

    1. Could this indeed be an experiment / optimisation. I suspect the 22 weeks injection for pregnant women since 20 years ago a method where hermaphrodites are created by giving the opposite chromosomes to the sex of the unborn baby? I honestly do see so many children and adolescents where girls do have so many boy skills and vice versa. Link this also to the whole development of the LHBTG movement sponsored by governments. It is a huge eugenics experiment in follow up from what happened in Germany many years ago.

      1. I, too, thought these “spontaneous” virgin births might be the result of human intervention… especially if it’s a species that has regular contact with humans because it’s being bred, tracked, etc., to be preserved from extinction.

        Researching parthenogenesis — with the goal of achieving human parthenogenesis — seems like something the powers-that-be would be interested in. They seem to hate human sexual reproduction (except within their own families, of course), and appear fascinating with the idea of climbing back up the alchemical tree to the androgyne.

        1. *fascinated
          [oh, for an edit button… I’d submit a support ticket asking for one, but I presume if it were feasible, it would have been added long ago]

        2. Robert Barricklow

          Highly evolved social insects are known for to reproduce by that method[aphids?, bees and ants; for example].

  6. Robert Barricklow

    5/7th letter in the air?
    GMO’s in the food; not to mention other poisons.
    The living universe has a “possible” answer?

  7. Did the condors mate previously?

    sperm fragments from previous mating (pay attention ladies) are long lasting in females. perhaps previous mating could be somehow involved.

    1. Robert Barricklow

      Lots of deception involved in the mating game – from the genes on up.
      One of my favorite non-fiction books was, Sperm Wars.

  8. >symbolic aspects of this story, snakes, or serpents, are among the creatures that can experience parthenogenesis.<
    That could be considered blasphemous.

    1. No doubt. But, not all religions or cultures consider the snake to be a “bad” actor. It is frequently a sign of resurrection and eternal life … being able to shed it’s skin and renew itself for continued growth. As Joseph Campbell once remarked – “Eve and the Serpent may make a better pair than Eve and Adam.” In other words, taking things too literally frequently causes barriers to understanding.

    2. It’s not blasphemous to suspect demonic involvement when something “unnatural” is happening.
      I wonder what the partly domesticated condors have been eating.

      1. Robert Barricklow

        A lot of pesticides and other toxins in the industrialized genetically engineered food chains.

  9. Doctor Who is currently female (in his latest reincarnation / metamorphosis as a woman) and possesses Y chromosomes.

    1. Isn’t that Kleinfelter’s Syndrome (XXY)? Though not guaranteed, infertility is a usual outcome of having that disease.

  10. anakephalaiosis

    Lord Incubus Parthenogenesis, the prince of darkness, and poster boy, to both space reptilians and genocide gremlins alike, melted, along with the wicked witch, as the sun rose on Scotland:

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/wfqfpkl3gfois5b/when-the-saints-go-marching-in.mp4

    CHRISTMAS CARBON 3

    Clever was pig, and much able,
    spell cast fully capable,
    and finest carbon
    fried bacon,
    kept dancing on table.

    https://www.jkrowling.com/the-christmas-pig-is-here/

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