If you've been following the implications of the injections for pilots and air traffic controllers, you're probably aware that there's another looming set of problems attached to the rollout of 5G, namely, that the frequencies  involved are very close to those used by aircraft altimeters. This story was spotted and shared by "vsoc, " and finally the airlines and air freight shippers have decided to act:

The problem in a nutshell:

As telecommunication giants Verizon and AT&T prepare to roll out their hotly anticipated new 5G service on Wednesday, major U.S. airlines are warning that the launch will result in “catastrophic” disruption for the aviation industry.

In a letter sent Monday to Biden administration officials, a group of airline CEOs stressed that the forthcoming C-Band 5G deployment would ground “huge swaths” of the U.S. fleet and “could potentially strand tens of thousands of Americans overseas.”

“Unless our major hubs are cleared to fly, the vast majority of the traveling and shipping public will essentially be grounded,” they said in the letter, viewed by NBC News.

The airline executives stated plainly that the rollout could be accompanied by an aviation crisis the likes of which the country has never seen.

“To be blunt, the nation’s commerce will grind to a halt,” they stated plainly.

The letter was reportedly signed by the CEOs of American Airlines, United Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Southwest Airlines, and Jet Blue, as well as by leaders of shipping companies UPS and FedEx.

Here's a thought: it's difficult to have an internet of things if the things delivering the things are unable to fly and, indeed, perhaps crashing and burning because of altimeter interference and/or other unforeseen implications and complications. So rather than disrupt what's already there, why not redesign the  other, and make very certain there are no long term environmental effects before implementing it. That rather obvious and common sense approach raises a disturbing question:

Is there another much more hidden agenda behind 5G? Does someone want global flight and mobility grounded? Does someone want a major disruption in airline and air freight industries?

I have no answers to those questions, but they do hover uneasily over the whole discussion, and I'd be interested to hear if anyone has any ideas, for it's truly a case of "you tell me."

See you on the flip side...

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

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  1. remibeni on January 31, 2022 at 9:28 am

    Interesting how the warning about 5G is about planes and not how it impacts human health.

    • joaquin on February 1, 2022 at 1:43 am

      I see there is claims that the airline CEO’s have been asked to make necessarily adjsutments for years, and that the 5G roll out shouldnt come as a surprise on them.
      But things being what they are, how can they possibly defend going forward?
      I Seems like a really really bad idea.

  2. bassman on January 30, 2022 at 6:35 pm

    Seems to me to be just another drip of info to the normies that we have been witnessing alot of lately. People are starting to wake up to the fact that Mr. Globaloney started a War with us and their battle tactics are becoming more and more well known.

  3. Apeiron on January 30, 2022 at 10:18 am

    From all my professional experience in tech business is that technocratic-burocratic inhuman and empathyless corporatism and the psychopathic elites acculumate tons of stupid decisions on any imaginable and inimaginable scale. For example as I asked the forum, if I read things right, some of them seem to think they can secretely organize a several billion people genocid…

    So my general impressions are rather that Mr Globaloney has rejected every human and intelligent long term thinking very far away from him and is now surrounded by blind yea-sayers and idiots. To me, the more and more centralized monopolistic economy with endless mass manipulation and mind control has a strong after-taste of former Soviet Empire. This inefficiency and madness is also well described by David Graeber’s “Bullshit Jobs” or “Burocracy”.

    And this general idiocy has its nemesis in an avalanche of completely unintended consequences generating an uncontrolable chaos: just the lockdowns would have been a big enough, but they continue to add ever more perturbations on the top of it. So to think that the damage of airplane traffic by introduction of 5G to be intended I would like to see some very concrete detail…

  4. Jay on January 30, 2022 at 2:01 am

    Ah yes , 5G. If I remember correctly, technology behind it is very similar to PESA/AESA type of radiolocation device which means it can transmits and listen as well as it can produce either wide or tight beam.Also, lets not forget about electroencephalographic ( sorry if misspelled) dictionary which also is not affected by language barrier.

  5. GM Hillbilly on January 30, 2022 at 1:31 am

    It certainly appears like the breaking in group wishes to be the only ones who will be able to travel safely— underground!

  6. Barbara-Joyce on January 29, 2022 at 3:45 pm

    There’s no doubt in my mind that this situation is intentional and another desired impact even if just for a while. The real question is what aspect of the global reset does it serve? 0n the otherhand, humans have a history of thinking that they can change one thing and forget about any effects in other areas. Best known is when they set out to destroy a pest and find out that others in the foodchain benefit, go unchecked and become another problem. That is one of my concerns with artificial mRNA, do they really know the impact of this invention on other aspects of life? Do they really know other parts of the human life processes that this chemical is part of? I doubt it, which is why longitudinal data is critical.

  7. ragiza on January 29, 2022 at 1:48 pm

    I happened to come across this, it fits our (CIA) times really well:
    “The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
    Hannah Arendt

  8. ragiza on January 29, 2022 at 12:49 pm

    >The lack of alarm in Europe stands in stark contrast to the United States, where airlines have warned of catastrophic consequences for aviation and the economy if super-fast 5G mobile service expands without additional safeguards<
    There's probably an easy work-around.
    Despite being from CNN, the article seems credible:

  9. Jen on January 29, 2022 at 8:31 am

    A letter sent on the Monday before the roll out on the Wednesday seems to be cutting it fine for an issue that must have been known of and ‘considered’ even as 5G was being developed.
    It feels like another choke-hold on the supply chain (Canadian truckers, God bless them, being manipulated?), the better to bring onstage the drones and self-driving tech, smart-grid, to save the day – they don’t strike, take holidays, sleep, and are very obliging to the aims of the oligarchs. The Destructionism is intentional and those CEO’s surely must know that, or their investment fund masters do.

  10. Kevin Ryan on January 28, 2022 at 10:40 pm

    If these stories are correct, that 5G can interfere with aircraft altimeters, is this something that will also affect military aircraft? Could enemy drones broadcast 5G signals and cause military aircraft to fly into mountains, the ground, or aircraft carriers during landings when visibility is poor? What justifies the rollout of dangerous new technology that could cripple an existing industry that is fundamental to our current way of life? What is so necessary about 5G? Because 5G and the IoT wedded to Surveillance Capitalism and the corporate ethos that people are expendable assets and cows to be milked add up to a decision aimed at supporting tech giants and their big business customers at the expense of anything and anybody that stands in their way.

    • Richard on January 29, 2022 at 2:13 pm

      Been tossing that RF interference notion around, too, especially with the recent loss of an F-35 in the South China Sea, of all places.

      • Allen S on February 1, 2022 at 9:20 pm

        Let us not forget the reported facts of the pilot’s three day old jabberdo, and the pilot’s verbal comment thereto as he reference / cursed same as he struggled with attempting to regain control in the midst of what he perceived to be a coronary event. Of course there is no follow-info cuz MSM is no longer in that business due to the usual proffered reasons: national security, under investigation, need to know, someone somewhere says no. Summary: pilot was contending not with bad telemetry, but with a personal physical health event.

  11. Westcoaster on January 28, 2022 at 8:38 pm

    A faux pas as big as this deserves it’s own blue-ribbon commission to investigate, don’t ‘cha think?
    And yes, I’m with you Doc, on the idea of this being a deliberate act as depopulation is their goal. We had better stiffen ourselves up to the idea there are people in control of us who want to make us disappear.
    The reasons are many, but it all comes down to two things: 1) Money, and 2) Power. By eliminating us they accomplish both of their goals.

    • Genevieve on February 10, 2022 at 7:53 pm

      Re: (money and) power. Yes, the people un control would have more of both, yet with such great loss of human life the power would be over whom? The dead? Or the land once belonging to the dead? The children/heirs of those dead?

  12. Sandygirl on January 28, 2022 at 8:35 pm

    The 5G rollout also affects weather forecasting. In 2017 “Negotiators at a meeting of the International Telecommunication Union in Sharm El-Sheikh, Egypt, agreed to introduce two stages of protection for frequencies near 24 gigahertz — a range close to those that weather satellites use to detect the amount of water in the atmosphere. Companies that operate 5G networks will have a relatively loose standard from now until 2027. After that, the regulation will get stricter. The idea is to let 5G companies start building networks now, and then to add more protection for Earth observations as 5G transmissions become denser.” “If a 5G station is transmitting a signal near the 23.8-gigahertz frequency, a weather satellite might pick it up and interpret it as water vapour. And that bad data could degrade forecasts.”

  13. marcos toledo on January 28, 2022 at 7:59 pm

    You can bet the farm they have known the effects of 5G long before the rollout. Interfering with transportation vehicles in the air on the road and at sea all part of the plan to corral the livestock they will hunt down. Think planet of the apes meets the world of the time machine with Morlocks instead of apes astride horses hunting down Elois that is why the push for veganism vegans taste better than meat eaters.

  14. cameroncaps on January 28, 2022 at 6:16 pm

    If all this is true it may well explain the rush for lockdowns and planscamdemics. The timeliness for 5g is not to dissimilar, so would it be to far out there that someone knew this fairly early on and needed a reason to ground flights and block shipping routes?

  15. shirley ky on January 28, 2022 at 6:01 pm

    Several years ago there was a similar radio frequency conflict. A company had tested internet mesh equipment and wss in the process of rolling it out, when it was noticed that there was a possible interference with gps signals. The company was stopped, and never tried to switch frequencies to not cause interference.

  16. Roger on January 28, 2022 at 5:35 pm

    Mr. Globaloney: While laughing “What happens if I push this button?”

    Air Traffic Controller: “I don’t know what happened! They all just suddenly lost altitude and disappeared!”

  17. Tom on January 28, 2022 at 3:30 pm

    There’s no way they wouldn’t/ couldn’t have known this before hand. No way. Clown world.

  18. Richard on January 28, 2022 at 1:50 pm

    It seems to come down to and across as wireless frequency discrimination in addition to the traditional acoustical frequency discrimination assigned to the sensory apparatus of auditory perception. (Such a mouthful of gobbledygook) Can wireless frequencies be accurately distributed, measured, and reacted to toward the goals that instruct mechanical, electrical, and electromagnetic frequencies? (More gobbledygook specified) You know, differentiating noise from noise. . . . Well, . . . OK, . . . . without downing aerial phenomena or terrestrial devices with passengers on them or misdirecting missiles mysteriously launched out of control from the usual command structure meant to deploy them or scrambling global positioning systems meant to be sending an ordered sequence of instructions or redirecting RF-DNA ((that would be, radiofrequency (RF) Distinct Native Attributes (RF-DNA)), and on and on. Conveniently distracting from DNA of a genome talk.

    Transitioning to digital from analogue frequency distributions in 2009 apparently was not enough to bring order to wireless noise into ordered radio frequency noises. Well-funded gobbledygook, to be sure.

    And then there’s that [ethical experimentation on human’s thing] without their consent with little to no known outcomes yet measured – for profit of course.

    When one considers how wired electricity flows, an ephemeral process that remains sparsely understood yet widely used and distributed, 5G is another work-in-progress and experiment. Although, there are a lot of experiments involving these little understood forces of Nature. Literally, frequencies that can be seen in the dark with the right detectors. And people wonder why they occasionally get a period dissonant ring-tone-like response in an ear or two every now and then. Such haphazard occurrences still getting a fair share of discussions without umbrella-hats or sending one-ton bulls in circles or disorientating Macaques monkeys in an experimental Faraday cage.

  19. pmchenry on January 28, 2022 at 1:39 pm

    When I saw this break in the news, the big question to me was, “Huh? Really? Two days before they’re going to switch it on?”

    If it’s this sort of problem then they’ve certainly known about it for a very long time (trust me on that; I work on aviation systems for a living). What then is the game here, really? Airline CEOs trying to cover their butts? Some ‘white hat’ faction in the secret war making a last-ditch effort to block the roll-out?

    The one thing it certainly is NOT is some people just ‘discovering’ there’s a problem.

  20. Robert Barricklow on January 28, 2022 at 11:55 am

    White Rabbit

  21. Laura on January 28, 2022 at 11:27 am

    The FCC determined 5G was more important. The FCC divides up the spectrum and sometimes reallocates use within the spectrum. Some FCC decisions impact existing uses.

    So then the FAA orders new safety compliance procedures,
    The FAA is authorized to prescribe rules which increase airline costs. I don’t think hurting the airlines is a motivator, rather the culprit is the data beast.

    competition within the spectrum also happens to GPS.

    • Richard on January 28, 2022 at 1:56 pm

      “Compliance procedures” to defer the ultimate blame to a perpetual ‘catch-me-if-you-can’ game of chase, no doubt.

  22. ragiza on January 28, 2022 at 10:28 am

    There’s an NIH research paper titled “Wi-Fi is an important threat to human health”. When my modem has the wifi turned on it gives me a mild but noticeable “buzz” I don’t like, so I keep it turned off.

    I’ve wondered if at least some of the reports of harmed US embassy personnel in Cuba and other places might not be due to side effects from emissions being used in the embassy for comm security/secrecy purposes.

    If the aircraft altimeter conflict with 5G can’t be solved, maybe that’s a good way of shutting down the distribution of this additional radiation – its main purpose seems to be the spread of ubiquitous AI which is turning out to a another Gatesian plague in its own right.

  23. White Lily on January 28, 2022 at 9:52 am

    This will be yet another way for governments to blame the supply chain breakdown on “circumstances beyond our control.” The same way that they are blaming the unvaccinated truckers and a “shortage” of farm labor for empty store shelves now.
    “No food? It’s not our fault, but try some of Bill Gates worm burgers. They are free with a vaccination or booster.”

    • Jen on January 29, 2022 at 9:28 am

      A ‘manual’ upvote from me.

  24. anakephalaiosis on January 28, 2022 at 5:52 am


    Jesuit cuisine of fifth generation,
    uses microwave radiation,
    in push to fry chicken
    in hell’s kitchen,
    by spontaneous combustion.

    Fried chicken at BBC:

  25. Michael UK on January 28, 2022 at 5:49 am

    You could hypothesize that the “someone” could be the same entity that caused the Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 to disappear from radar screens and completely vanish over the Indian Ocean. It would be interesting to see a latest inventory of the “wreckage” found to date – very little?

    • Jen on January 29, 2022 at 9:46 am

      I did wonder if that was a ‘showcase demonstration’ of stealth technology – to dissappear an aircraft with high value super conductor developers aboard. And it DID just dissappear, despite the American ‘traveller’ paying big bucks to locals in the Indian Ocean to recover the ‘evidence’ of a ditched craft.

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