This story was spotted and sent in, almost simultaneously, by V.T., S.D., and C.V., so when you see three emails arrive in your inbox from three widely dispersed people sending the exact same story, you tend to sit up and take notice. (And thank you to you three who did so!)

This is "old news", and in fact, once you read the story, you'll discover it's from the 1990s. But it's a "whopper doozie" that cries out for the high octane speculation treatment. Here's the story:

US Nuclear Submarine 'Buzzed By Underwater Object' Traveling 'Faster Than Speed Of Sound': Scientist

The article itself can be quoted in full since it is so short:

A scientist carrying out classified work onboard the USS Hampton nuclear submarine in the late 1990s says the sub was 'buzzed' by an unidentified object traveling underwater faster than the speed of sound.

In a YouTube interview with UFO researcher Chris Leto, scientist Bob McGwier said that the sub was "running deep and fast" when it was passed at extremely high speed by an object. According to McGwier, the encounter was confirmed by a member of the crew who was shocked at the speed of the Unidentified Submerged Object (USO), Daily Star reports.

"A person with knowledge of onboard systems came out and said ‘this goddam thing is going faster than the speed of sound underwater – but that’s faster than the speed of sound in air'," he continued.

According to McGwier, the crew "didn’t want to report it, didn’t want to tell anybody, didn’t want to cause any problems."

Sound moves at 1,480 meters per second in water (3,355 miles per hour) vs. 331 meters per second in air.

Perhaps it was a 'Tic Tac' UFO, which have been seen emerging from the ocean at high rates of speed?

And there you have it; that's the entire article and story: a US Navy submarine tracked an Unidentified Submerged Object (USO) exceeding 3,355 miles per hour, underwater. The article ends by connecting the story - tenuously - to the "Tic Tac" UFOs much-bally-hooed in the lamestream propatainment media networks and press recently, along with their designated government sponsored "interpretaters" and "whistleblowers."  With that tenuous connection, I assume we're supposed to leap immediately to the conclusion that whoever was zipping along underwater at super-sonic submerged speeds, it wasn't us, i.e., human. ET?  Maybe. An undiscovered underwater intelligent species? Maybe. But human? Definitely not.

Well, readers of this website know my views: I'm not philosophically opposed to ETs or underwater intelligent species (think octopus here) zipping along at incredible speeds. But I'm also skeptical that these are the only two, or even best, explanations. Nor am I convinced that such things are beyond present human capability. Certainly they're  beyond presently acknowledged human capability, but the two are not necessarily the same thing.  If one assumes, for the moment, that someone possesses an inertial or warp or antigravity propulsion system - whatever one wishes to call it - then the medium through which an object moves, be it air, water, or vacuum space, is of little importance.

But I rather strongly suspect that one need not to resort to such end-of-the-twig speculations of such an exotic nature. Instead, I suspect  that there might be another way to simulate the super-sonic movement of a "something" underwater, and that might be by a kind of sonar interferometry creating a "ghost" on the oscilloscope, so to speak, of an "object" that really isn't there. Very sensitive underwater listening stations have been used to triangulate submarine positions for decades.  The loss of the nuclear submarines USS Scorpion and USS Thresher with all hands were two events that the US Navy actually listened to via such stations placed hundreds of miles away from the incidents. Due to these listening posts, they were able to triangulate the location of these submarines rather accurately, and thus to send deep sea probes down to look at them to determine the possible causes of their loss.  So imagine that one uses such stations for the sonic broadcast of signals beyond the range of human hearing from two or more such locations, and interfering the signals in a particular region in such a way as to establish a beat frequency that is detectable by and audible to human hearing and by the sonar equipment on a modern submarine, and moving that area of interference so as to appear to be an object travelling at great underwater speed.

It might thus be possible to deceive the crews of a submarine, and a scientist, and through them, the readers of a newspaper, that there is someone "out there" or "down there", and they have capabilities far in excess of our own.

Just a thought I thought I'd toss out there...

See you on the flip side...




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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

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  1. bluelectricstorm on December 18, 2022 at 5:27 pm

    I need a thorough and detailed explanation of just exactly what is meant by “buzzed”. Did every crew member get “buzzed”? In the same sense? Place? Way?
    Was there a crew member named Buzz? I’ve heard that living on a boat with just a few others can make one wish to leave at the speed of light. Maybe Buzz could no longer handle being fetally dependent on a machine traveling miles under water. Maybe Buzz “saw the light”.
    I don’t know, first I want to ask about the buzz.

  2. Richard on December 15, 2022 at 9:19 pm

    “”. . . . . . .According to McGwier, the crew “didn’t want to report it, didn’t want to tell anybody, didn’t want to cause any problems.”. . . . .””

    That phraseology pretty much sums up what one would expect with keeping sources, methods, technologies, and performance capabilities of state-of-the-art underwater vessels (nuclear powered subs) from tantalizing any would-be secret seekers of foreign adversaries from gaining anything of useful intelligence value. That alone already reveals the sensitivity of onboard instrumentation even if unexpectedly.

    If a craft of some sort, they’re likely navigating space-time-matter/energy rather than traveling as a conventional vessel does. It seems to give them a paradoxical capacity of being there but not according to known physics. Difficult to look out the windows on subs as they’re likely not to have them. That requires corroborating witnesses and further instrumentation specially designed for discerning what was and is in that water medium with its own unique characteristics. Bumping into undersea stuff is possible for subs. Picking up as unidentified submerged somethings, probably, part of the territory, just hasn’t made it to any witness stand with thump-able hands-on evidence to present to that show & tell session. The [Others] who might have such control over matter – energy – manipulation of frequency – and the means to wield that combination are not likely to introduce themselves anytime soon.

    In any case, USO’s seen with unusual characteristics by shipmates have made it into ships logs over the last few centuries already. Still as unidentified submerged objects. It’d be interesting to tune into the scuttlebutt raised as a result. Doesn’t sound like another fish story that got away.

  3. Frank on December 15, 2022 at 2:36 pm

    I read the above blog you posted on an underwater U.S.O. that passed a US Submarine. The Russian Submarine forces have the SHKVAL (Squall). It is a underwater torpedo and the fastest torpedo in the world and has been in service since the 1970’s..

    It has been rumored to run at least 200 knots submerged. The SHKVAL which has an oscillating tip that vibrates as the torpedo moves. This causes an air bubble to encapsulate the torpedo and that torpedo has a rocket engine attached. This unit is really an underwater missile rather than a traditional torpedo as we know torpedos. Hence that is why you see ballistic missiles pop out of the water from their tubes surrounded by an air bubble until the break the surface and on their downward movement (ie gravity kicks in) and their rocket engine fires and then sends the missile upward and towards it intended target. The same goes for any such horizontally launched object. This the shark can travel really fast and thus is an extreme danger to most of its targets. It is very difficult for a warship or any ship traveling at speeds between 10 knots to 40knots to evade such a weapons system. Now the 200 knots is not the same speed as this underwater USO was claimed to be traveling and I was made aware of that fact and so I performed some more research on this subject.

    In researching the Shkval today I came across some-new updated information from several military naval sites. The Shkval is being phased out and being replaced by a new underwater missile named Khishchnik (Predator) and its in final testing phase or as the article notes! (Source UPI Like the Shkval it is being engineered by an aviation missile firm and not a naval torpedo design firm. The military analysts are saying that this new weapon exceeds the Shkval by leaps and bounds in speed and weapon load. This may be already in service or in testing phase and may further be the candidate of went buzzing by our attack boat.

    It should be noted that the USN spy submarine was tailing an OSCAR class submarine when our submarine allegedly and accidentally collided with the Russian boat and causing severe damage. (The KURSK)… There was a french journalist who at the time uncovered evidence that in that incident one of the submarines did in fact fire a standard torpedo which may have hit the Kursk causing additional catastrophic damage. In his article he even had photographic evidence indicating a hit on the Kursk by the torpedo. Whether this happened or not I am uncertain and am relaying only what I read. ( Newsweek and Irish Times both ran articles indicating and claims by Russian admiral of alleged collision )The Kursk was most likely testing the Khishchnik torpedo. All defense articles related to this new weapon state the new speed of this weapon are unknown but outclass the older Squall. In an article Navy states NATO has also tested a very similar weapon with speeds in access of 400 knots per hour or KPH which now comes much closer to this U.S.O. speed. date of that test was in 2005-2006.

    In looking at the above blog and related articles it is my belief on this particular incident we may have a super secret Russian designed underwater missile being fired at an American submarine in a possible warning shot to that submarine as a rather diplomatic “BACK OFF” or you will be sunk moment in that never ending Russian vs American cat and mouse game of hunter killer submarine vs Russian boomers. If NATO has designed torpedos as fast as 400 knots the Russians may have an existing in service grade weapon that can travel faster than 400 knots plus. A real game changer.

    One last comment. The U.S.O. slant is like the U.F.O. at Roswell NM style of government coverup and disinformation campaign we often see from the military industrial complex and their media lapdogs the main stream media would concoct to make s all go ” NOTHING TO SEE HER BOYS AND GIRLS! MOVE ON…” of course I may be wrong as well.

  4. Mejkai on December 15, 2022 at 11:41 am

    Either a sonar pulse beat thing or plasma something would be my guess. Anything solid and of any significant size would cause a remarkable wave at that speed, which is something I would assume would show up on seismographs all over the place. I don’t know if such data is available for lay persons. Then again, how would a wave go about its waving very deep in the sea under high pressure, I do not claim to know.

  5. marcos toledo on December 14, 2022 at 7:32 pm

    What are the real technological capabilities of our elites that they are not telling us?

    • anakephalaiosis on December 15, 2022 at 1:33 am

      There is a ghost in the machine, which becomes an alien ping on the radar, in the fantastic fable of alien visitations, made by those, who call themselves kings, emperors and popes.

      They advance, from pretending pretenders to poltergeists behind the curtain, and they spin their narratives of invisible webs of mind control, to ensnare their prey.

      They are yet to produce a believable tall tale, that is not Santa and his reindeers, in the coming of the next meme, foretold by Wernher von Braun’s secretary, Carol Rosin.

      After all, men are supposed to be the gullible goyim, in a goblin’s version of the truth.

  6. Kevin Ryan on December 14, 2022 at 4:08 pm

    Two things. 1. A nuclear submarine buzzed by an underwater something that may be a Tic Tac USO. 2. This happens while said submarine is engaged in some type of classified experiment. So – what was the classified experiment? The “USO event” must have been classified as well – assuming it has only recently been disclosed. (If it’s been disclosed decades ago, why is it in the news again now?) Why disclose the USO event and not the experiment? Maybe they are linked. Did the experiment involve any type of pulsed emissions of either sonar or other frequencies? Were they in open water, a canyon, or near underwater mountains or a continental shelf? What about nearby thermoclines? As it stands, I’d say, “Holy Wakanda, Batman! Prince Namor is buzzing our subs! The ones searching for vibranium! Oops! That’s classified! I shouldn’t have said that!”

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  8. Robert Barricklow on December 14, 2022 at 12:29 pm

    Terrestrial technology? Meaning of Planet Earth?
    Or Extra Terrestrial[ET]. ET of this solar system, or beyond our solar system?
    Since it is a “vehicle” of some sort, I’m ruling out other life forms, w/the exception of bio/digital; like an Artificial General Intelligence, that may have taken over an Earthling technology.

    Another possibility; is that the story is bogus.
    1)The people telling it; maybe genuine, but, the technology causing it, may be of a mind-control nature? Or, the technology causing it may be purposed to make those seeing it, think it is “real”?
    2) The story is an outright lie, to achieve some ends; like how the story “evolves”. a) w/guidance. b) w/o guidance. That sort of live narrative experiment?

    If I had to put money on it; I would bet on a Breakaway Technology’s proof of concept experiment., had born fruit of an extraordinary nature.

    Or, a surviving tell-tale of Atlantis?

    Or, a true extra-terrestrial that been on Earth[meaning underwater/] for God knows how long?
    Maybe, surfacing now & then, and visiting land?

    But, if things happening of late[Bizzaro World], are related? Then it would be: Playing w/the narrative. Manipulating narratives; may be as common in the 20th-Worst century, as say…, manipulating the weather?

    • Robert Barricklow on December 14, 2022 at 5:38 pm

      Sherlock Holmes gets his two cents in,
      “What you do in this world is of no consequence.
      The question is, what you can make people believe you have done.”
      – A Study In Scarlet

  9. Michael UK on December 14, 2022 at 8:26 am

    I don’t agree with the sonar hypothesis. Fact is, there have also been much documented and witnessed USOs comings and goings in the Caspian Sea around Azerbaijan in the late 1990s.
    UFOs and USOs have been seen by villages scattered around Baku. People believe there could be bases in the Caspian Sea.
    Note also that the objects that were witnessed appeared to change shape, and through a powerful flash of energy change from solid disc to a light ball / plasma and thus be able to perhaps transition into and out of this world. Almost as if they were moving between worlds!
    Draw your own conclusions!

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