THE FBI AND LATIN RITE CATHOLICS
So many of you sent me the story about the Richmond, Virginia FBI field office memo about FBI tracking of Latin rite Catholics, that I have to blog about it. In doing so, I am fully cognizant that I am painting a very large target on myself, so if I suddenly disappear or have another heart attack, you'll know what has happened: the Swamp has struck again. Since the story first appeared, the memo has been "retracted," but rest assured, the type of thinking behind it did not:
FBI Internal Memo Warns against ‘Radical Traditionalist Catholic Ideology’
The article's contents are chilling in their implications:
The FBI’s Richmond field office released an internal memo last month warning against “radical traditionalist Catholic ideology,” and claiming it “almost certainly presents new mitigation opportunities,” according to a document shared by an FBI whistleblower on Wednesday.
Kyle Seraphin, who was a special agent at the bureau for six years before he was indefinitely suspended without pay in June 2022, published the document, “Interest of Racially or Ethnically Motivated Violent Extremists in Radical Traditionalist Catholic Ideology Almost Certainly Presents New Mitigation Opportunities,” on UncoverDC.com.
“In making this assessment, FBI Richmond relied on the key assumption that [racially or ethnically motivated extremists] will continue to find [radical-traditionalist Catholic or RTC] ideology attractive and will continue to attempt to connect with RTC adherents, both virtually via social media and in-person at places of worship,” the document from January 23 states.
It adds that “RTCs are typically categorized by the rejection of the Second Vatican Council (Vatican II) as a valid church council; disdain for most of the popes elected since Vatican II, particularly Pope Francis and Pope John Paul II; and frequent adherence to anti-Semitic, anti-immigrant, anti-LGBTQ, and white supremacist ideology. Radical-traditionalist Catholics compose a small minority of overall Roman Catholic adherents and are separate and distinct from ‘traditionalist Catholics’ who prefer the Traditional Latin Mass and pre-Vatican II teachings and traditions, without the more extremist ideological beliefs and violent rhetoric.”
It's that last paragraph, and particularly its last sentence, that concern me here, but before we get to those concerns, let us look at something else in this article:
The report relied upon information from the Southern Poverty Law Center, a legal-advocacy organization that has come under fire for including conservative nonprofits like the Alliance Defending Freedom and the American College of Pediatricians on its list of “hate groups” alongside groups like the Ku Klux Klan and the Nation of Islam.
So what is concerning me? Well, firstly, that the criteria of distinguishing between a traditionalist Roman Catholic - Latin mass, dispute and misgivings over the teachings and results of the Second Vatican Council, questions about post-council popes versus "extremist ideological beliefs and violent rhetoric" - seems rather vague. Don't get me wrong: virtually every human group, including religions, has their extremists. Not all Democrats are "woke". Not all Muslims are fanatical fundamentalists; not all Roman Catholic traditionalists are so traditional that they'd have no problem burning heretics; not all Lutherans want to permanently baptize all Anabaptists, and so on. In most cases, such fanaticism is done in the name of texts that depict and advocate religious violence. The Koran, the Old Testament (and even parts of the New) contain violent passages, and these can always be twisted. One wonders whether or not "Grand Lodge" or "Higher Degree" Freemasonry has made the Southern Poverty Law Center's hit list for its long and demonstrable connection to revolutionary movements of a violent sort.; one wonders if the FBI will decide to manipulate that group as well.
What concerns me is that the FBI would be listening to the Southern Poverty Law Center at all, as if it had some special sort of expertise or magisterium or jurisdiction over the internal teachings and affairs of the Roman Catholic Church, traditionalist or otherwise. To be sure, there has been a persistent anti-Catholicism in American culture, almost from the beginning. But viewed another way, that bias could be said to be "anti-liturgical" and "anti-sacramental" as much as anti-Roman Catholic: just ask any traditionalist Anglican (if you can find one), or traditionalist Lutheran or Eastern Orthodox and they'll tell you. America does not, as a culture, like that kind of religion, because it cannot, ultimately, be confined to "private and personal" nor to the revivalist-emotional baptistic sentimentality that has come to represent "Christianity" for most Americans; sacramental religion is always public, because being sacramental, implies its own cosmology, culture, and social organization, regardless of what any secular authority might say. To put it as simply as possible, there is a sovereignty there, whether clearly spelled out as in Roman Catholicism, or clearly implied as in the other sacramental and liturgical religions.
And that raises the issue of whether or not that bias has become part of unofficial policy in various federal agencies.
If so, I would advise extreme caution, because governments have learned the hard way that it is always dangerous business to attempt to control the internal affairs, ritual, or beliefs, of a religion. It didn't work out too well for the Roman Empire, nor for the once all-powerful and officially atheistic Soviet State; the Soviet State is gone; the synagogues, mosques, and churches, are still there, and growing. The more governments meddle, the more those groups go underground. The more they go underground, the bigger the so-called threat becomes, until it is a kind of self-fulfilled prophecy: by making enemies of religion, you make enemies of religion, and the modern American woke progressive state is doing that at a breathtaking pace. They would do well to remember the warning of Mahatma Ghandi: first they persecute you, then they kill you, then you win.
See you on the flip side...
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Probably some FBI Cromwell type behind all this.
I just finished watching the Tudors series – great entertainment – heartily recommend it.
In the Tudor series, biblical quotes are used, to embellish the ‘divine right to rule’, which was the original source of dispute, that divided the proto-Scythian Israelites, in the 10th century BC.
During the Reformation, the biblical translation into native tongue was cut short, at the term ‘Elohim-Yahweh’, because it would have eroded both papal and royal powerbases.
Today, the British monarchy is still threatened, by a correct translation of ‘Elohim-Yahweh’, because there is no powerbase justified upon plain astronomical terminology.
Special bloodlines was – and still is – a gaslit myth of Catholics, and the ‘ten tribes’ seceded as Protestants.
my estimate is that the fbi has a left wing political ideologue problem. one possible explanation for the withdrawn absurd memo is that a political lefty got involuntarily transferred to the ‘extremist ideology’ division (probably a low status assignment) and then ginned up a juicy memo to get transferred elsewhere. or, the drafter was a clueless political hack that wanted to attack conservatives. my experience with the fbi is that they see themselves as crime fighters, but they want to take down a target that improves their promotion chances. the term ‘mitigation opportunities’ was strange. that does not sound like crime fighting, rather it sounds like prosecuting for prevention. which brings up the question of how to interdict terrorism. not easy.
on another front, while perusing the fbi/doj website i found this:
“A federal grand jury in Maryland today returned an indictment charging Sarah Beth Clendaniel, age 34, of Catonsville, Maryland, and Brandon Clint Russell, age, 27, of Orlando, Florida, with conspiracy to destroy an energy facility. The defendants have been detained since their arrest on February 3, 2023, on related charges.
The indictment was announced by United States Attorney for the District of Maryland Erek L. Barron and Special Agent in Charge Thomas J. Sobocinski, of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Baltimore Field Office.
The single-count indictment alleges that Russell and Clendaniel conspired to willfully damage the property of an energy facility, causing damage exceeding $100,000 and causing a significant interruption and impairment of a function of the facility.
An indictment is not a finding of guilt. An individual charged by indictment is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty at some later criminal proceedings. If convicted, Russell and Clendaniel each face a maximum sentence of 20 years in federal prison for conspiracy to damage an energy facility”
“Federal authorities had arrested Sarah Beth Clendaniel, 34, and Brandon Clint Russell, 27, on a criminal information earlier this month, alleging that the two conspired to shoot up five BGE substations that would cause a “cascading failure” in the power grid, an FBI affidavit showed.
Clendaniel specifically mentioned destroying electrical substations in Norrisville, Reisterstown and Perry Hall, and two more in and around Baltimore City, the affidavit alleged.
Much of the information that led to the charges was obtained from an unnamed FBI confidential informant, who communicated with Clendaniel and Russell, who was known to authorities for his affiliations with pro-Nazi groups.”
after the train derailments, I am growing concerned about targeting of critical infrastructure. it seems like the country is a soft target.
Pinkerton is always looking for ‘mitigation opportunities’, to railroad Molly Maguire.
It is the Jesuit method of propping up fake movements, as controlled oppositions.
To use the Holy Writ, to create divide and conquer, is the devil’s trademark.
In the Ukraine, the US Swamp pits Slav against Slav.
To kickstart a Reformation in the Americas, is my idea of fun, and since I am capable of mind manipulation on that level, secret services, on both sides of the pond, find my person both intriguing and utterly disgusting.
The Catholic Church is united, around the popular sentiment of having a patriarchal authority, and precisely like the ancient Israelites, Catholics are divided on the means, whereby such authority is elected.
Technically, one needs someone to fill the shoes of Abram, and many are called, whereas few are chosen. Predictably, the 32-point compass was invented, in 9-8th century BC, to facilitate the means to elect an Adon/Odin.
Pulling sword from stone is home run. Read and weep:
The FBI is making the Pretorian Guard of the Roman Empire look respectable and rational in comparison have they become that useless and dangerous?
The police state of the Praetorian Guard went underground, in despite of being formally dismantled by Constantine, and it began to elect popes instead of emperors, in Roman Catholicism.
The “Praetorian Guard” gradually transformed the Scythian resistance movement, into Roman Catholicism, to regain former provinces by covert means, while campaigning crusades in barbarian, heathen Europe.
The Jesuit order of the “Praetorian Guard” began lobbying for a new empire in the New World, to be decisive in preplanned world wars, marching mindless minions, in Vatican conquest of world dominion.
The Ukraine is a papal Colosseum, a meat grinder arena, for big cat tanks, to entertain EU bureaucrats on podium.
It is called damage control.
Because the Russians are starting to figure out, that the NATO expansion is a papal crusade against heathens, with Catholics pushing agenda, who – as corrupted politicians – are frequent overseas visitors in the Vatican, where globalist rub shoulders with papacy and fake royalty alike, with grovelling toe-kissing going on, since the Middle Ages.
Catholics need to make it look, as if they are the persecuted party, to provide clerical cover, for the Jesuits pulling strings in secret agencies, that provides acronym cover for the Inquisition, whose low-level Freemasonic operatives are Jesuit-controlled bureaucracy, that kowtows in a lockstep war machinery.
Traditionally, when Europeans smell a pope rat, they turn Protestants, and begin to march towards Rome, to put an end, to the Assyro-Babylonian and Greco-Roman menace.
Elohim-Yahweh is ‘planets and solstice’, which points towards a compass ideology, depicted in rose windows of cathedrals, burned by Pope Satan.
BTW, I come from Protestant Scandinavia, and I trace Saxon roots, back to Scythia, where the Israelites took to the steppe, and created Christianity.
In my view, Roman Catholics are so far gone in their papal idolatry, that I normally wouldn’t waste my breath on hopeless fruitloops.
But desktop generals, that make massacre of cannon fodder, are empowered by these egregores of total mind control, and must be stopped.
The Last Supper Holy Grail is a Scythian skull cup!
They have put various European Pagan revival groups on their lists too. My security clearance for a job in a secured US Federal Agency (DOJ) took over seven months. It was only stopped when the professor who taught “alternative religions in America” at the FBI college found out about it and said, “what are you trying to do, have a lawsuit that we are destined to lose?”
He guessed correctly that I already had a hot-shot young lawyer who did not work for DOJ, all ready to take the case pro-bono and had done his homework. But he couldn’t file a motion until my clearance was denied. I went on to work there for about another year. It was an eye-opener, but my experiences at the DOJ are for another time.
I was horrified by this one because I’ve known people in these groups, and many are good, kind, religious people. Having them on “the list.”
People with high morals!
Thank God! None of them are FBI agents!
After all, the FBI mantra is: “Building relationships to destroy!”.
Real anything, is an enemy of the State.
Especially, real Catholics!
Freedom of religion?
Freedom of the press?
Hell, freedom of thought?
All targets of the “real” fanatics.
Absurd, none of the Tridentine Roman Catholic communities would harbor such extremist ideologues. They are the ultra orthodox of the Catholic world, they adhere to non violence and the teachings of Christ.
Beyond shameful the FBI would publish something like this and attempt to smear and divide Roman Catholics.
Adherence “to white supremacist ideology.” What a disgusting statement. Has the author of this statement even seen who composes the Tridentine community? Even in the US the vast mayority aren’t even white. What about the communities in Africa, Latin America, or Asia? Are they also white supremacists?
I suspect it’s further pressure designed to drive a wedge between the conservative segment of Catholicism with the liberal segment. It will fail, the liberal segment of Catholicism isn’t what keeps the church alive and growing.
I have to agree… I have known some people, for example, in the Society of Pius X and they are very traditional, but I NEVER encountered any literature or rhetoric such as the FBI memo is alleging.
This is exactly, what it is pathetic attempt to divide. I guess Covid19 didn’t work. at least not in Conn. since now when churches are open there is more people attending masses than before, even to my surprise, since I also believed that closed churches would contribute to lapse in faith. Minions in deep state can’t understand that Christianity in large part was and is built on the blood of the martyrs and prosecution.
Impending doom and gloom always makes the wild and woolly run for storm shelter.
Wolves in sheepskin have, so far, never managed, to take the flock out of the sheep.
Papal wolf is counting on that, waiting to bless the scared flock, that eats from his hand.
In Britain, the royal wolf are awaiting his coronation, to consecrate the sheep farm.