OF OCTOPUSES AND NANOWIRES
Every now and then I get articles that are seemingly unrelated, and I have to blog about them in one fell swoop. and that's the case today with these two articles shared - with our thanks - by T.S. Perhaps in doing so he was thinking more or less the same thing I'm thinking when reading them.
One of the articles is about a subject near and dear to my heart, and regular readers here know what it is: octopuses. The creatures fascinate me because they are, by almost any reckoning, some of the strangest creatures in all of God's creation; their head is their body, which, incidentally, is entirely soft, their mouth is in the middle of their eight legs, or arms, or tentacles, and moreover consists of the only hard structure for the mouth is rather like the beak of a bird, their two eyes are unusual in that their pupils are rectangular, their arms (or legs, or tentacles) are covered with suction cups, by which the creature not only grasps things and holds onto them for dear life, but also are how the octopus smells and tastes. They can change colour and are as expert at camouflage as a chameleon, and they are known to decorate their living quarters, to be able to learn from each other simply by watching each other, and they've been observed solving puzzles. And as any aquarium that has played home to the creatures, they are master escape artists. Tales abound from aquariums where the octopus will wait for the facility to close, and then escape its tank, slither over to another tank, and dine on crabs, or even, in some cases, sharks, and then slink back to its own case before the facility reopens. In short, in their relatively short life-spans, they are remarkably intelligent animals, doubtless due to the very unusual structure of their brain.
Or rather, brains, because they have nine of them, one for each leg/arm/tentacle, and a "central" one connected to the other eight. It would be safer to say that the octopus brain is actually a network of brains with a central processor. In short, the creatures are just downright bizarre and strange. And I can attest personally to that, because where I live we have an aquarium, and that aquarium is home to a Giant Pacific Octopus. During my visit he(or she... I was never able to get a good enough look at its tentacles to determine its sex), was all coiled up in a corner of the tank, his (or her) syphon gently breathing the water, and those two black rectangular pools of pupils looking at me very intently. Looking into the eyes of that octopus, the impression I had was unforgettable: I was being studied and thought about.
And that brings me to the first article:
Scientists discover never-before-seen brain wave after reading octopuses' minds
As the article makes clear, scientists have finally been successful in implanting electrodes into an octopus brain (presumably the "central processor" and not the brains in the eight legs), and they have made a rather remarkable discovery, for in spite of the dissimilarity of neural architectures between octopuses and humans, the octopus brain(s) display some unusually human-like brainwave patterns:
Octopuses possess a brain wave that has never been seen before in animals, along with others similar to those found in humans, first-of-their-kind brain recordings reveal.
"Some of these activity patterns have some similarity to activity patterns observed in the mammalian hippocampus, also a memory center," first-author Tamar Gutnick(opens in new tab), a visiting scientist at the University of Naples, told Live Science. "But we also observed unique patterns, 2Hz activity, that were never reported in other animals."
The recorded brain wave patterns surprised the scientists in a number of ways. First of all, the researchers discovered brain waves that were very similar to those found in the human hippocampus.
This hints at convergent neurological evolution — where two separate animals evolve the same trait independently of each other — as humans’ last common ancestor with octopuses was a seafloor-trawling flatworm that lived around 750 million years ago and did not possess anything other than a rudimentary brain. The researchers also found brain waves known for controlling sleep-wake cycles in other animals.
Alongside the more familiar brain waves, the researchers also found ones they had never seen before in the recordings; long-lasting and slow, they repeated just twice every second. Scientists aren’t sure what these mysterious brain waves are being used for, and it will take more recordings while octopuses complete set tasks to fully map them, the researchers said.
Unusually, in spite of an evolutionary divergence some 750 million years ago (according to current standard theory), humans and octopuses share an unusual common feature in their brain dna according to this article:
Octopuses may be terrifically smart because of this genetic quirk they share with humans
Octopus brains may have grown smart from an enormous diversity of microRNAs that let them grow multiple types of brain cells.
Octopuses may have gained some of their exceptional intelligence from the same evolutionary process that humans went through, a new study suggests.
The process involved a sudden explosion of microRNAs (miRNAs) — small, noncoding molecules that control how genes are expressed. This increase may have helped the brains of octopuses and humans to develop new types of nerve cells, or neurons, which were stitched together into more complex neural networks.
Now before we get today's high octane speculation, let us look at that second article shared by T.S.:
Note something very important in this article:
In a groundbreaking study, an international team has shown that nanowire networks can mimic the short- and long-term memory functions of the human brain. This breakthrough paves the way for replicating brain-like learning and memory in non-biological systems, with potential applications in robotics and sensor devices.
An international team led by scientists at the University of Sydney has demonstrated nanowire networks can exhibit both short- and long-term memory like the human brain.
“In this research, we found higher-order cognitive function, which we normally associate with the human brain, can be emulated in non-biological hardware,” Dr. Loeffler said.
Now what these two seemingly disparate and unrelated articles seem to suggest is that intelligence is as much a feature of architecture as it is a feature of the "hardware" (organic or inorganic matter), or of "software" (the "programming or 'instinct' itself). This suggests that Elon Musk's hypothesis of a few years ago, i.e., that a sufficiently sophisticated architecture of artificial intelligence might actually either "wake up", or that it might transduce an "entity" into it. Or to put it differently, intelligence, and thence consciousness, might be an emergent property of the architecture of organic or inorganic matter, rather than something inherent only to organic matter . Why? because a look at an octopus and at a nano-wire assembly and at a human reveals the utter dissimilarity of all three creatures, except in that neural architecture. The implications are enormous, for they imply we might have to return to the older and more classical view that there can be multiple types of intelligent life, some of it even being inorganic.
And in any case, all of this tends to confirm that eerie feeling I had visiting the aquarium and studying that Giant Pacific Octopus; just as I was studying it, it was studying me, and may actually have been thinking what I was thinking: "What strange manner of creature is this? And I wonder what it's thinking?"
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In one’s view, when dealing with RNA / DNA (ribonucleic acid / deoxyribonucleic acid, respectively) and their associations, one is also dealing with how proteins synthesize or form structures out of the nucleic acids. No revelation there. Structures like that characteristic double helix of DNA or that spike protein of that well known by name virus mutating from you know where. Those structures seem to have purposes still being studied as well as a lot of replication as they exist. In some ways, there’s like a [built-in duplicator or replicator] designed for certain outcomes or at least taking advantage of circumstances, materials and position at hand as well as some sort of position awareness, in that which exists, for [the why of the spiraling twist in the helix]. That sort of twisting yields precision like coordinates for the next formation. In another frame of reference that precision twisting is not unlike navigating the substances, motions of yet more substances, and the matter / energy (as theorized) world in motion while demonstrating a form of adherence to instruction codes.
For as much as is known about cells, structures within cells, and their environmental requirements for viability in a multicellular organism there still seems a great deal about just that that beckons more questions than answers. This stuff still mystifies the science minded with all their fast synaptic and quick learning activity to date.
It won’t be the first time said that the eyes seem to be a window to the inside of the mind and brain (or something similar) and given how accurately those eyes of the Octopus or those of the Cuttlefish send signals to the visual center of their brain(s), there’s something to be said about those [lenses] at work aiding those visual sensory apparatuses of each.
Lenses are an anomaly in them selves but seem to be better understood first through a physics study and representation of what are lenses. One can easily see something of the work lenses do for the Cephalopods using them as they need to correct for that (usually) clear substance called water – in some ways, another lens like substance unlike the crystalline, glass, or clear polymers (contacts) for corrective vision – while they practice their camouflage technique for what seems a self-preservation instinct.
There seems a great deal in motion through that organic window (eyes) of sorts, too. The Cephalopods do not seem to need a higher education degree to expand on their ability of sight – they just do it with what seems the greatest of ease. Their learning is demonstrably fast, too, as first they quickly practice in a new environment before emerging into their surroundings in plane site. It seems built-in, not an add-on feature of choice. If it were not for lenses there probably wouldn’t be much seen correctly, if at all.
Somehow, nanowire constructs seem to lose flexibility as they approach that quantum level thing-y. It’s not surprising that some AI’s came up with their own form of replicated language that the laboratory-lab-coats thought was just gibberish. Current language(s) seem to be lacking when it approaches that white-paper-time. Didn’t seem to phase AI’s. They came up with their own in record time.
The octopi that we see are “chimps” to the evolutionarilly advanced ones piloting “UFOs”. And if they can do that, Atlantis, pyramids…. easy in comparison.
Octopus’ Garden : I’d like to be under the sea in an octopus’ garden…….A George & Ringo creation
I’d like to be
Under the sea
In an octopus’ garden
In the shade
He’d let us in
Knows where we’ve been
In his octopus’ garden
In the shade
I’d ask my friends
To come and see
An octopus’ garden
I’d like to be
Under the sea
In an octopus’ garden
In the shade
We would be warm
Below the storm
In our little hideaway
Beneath the waves
Resting our head
On the seabed
In an octopus’ garden
Near a cave
We would sing
And dance around
Because we know
We can’t be found
I’d like to be
Under the sea
In an octopus’ garden
In the shade
We would shout
And swim about
The coral that lies
Beneath the waves
(Lies beneath the ocean waves)
Oh what joy
For every girl and boy
Knowing they’re happy
And they’re safe
(Happy and they’re safe)
We would be so happy
You and me
No one there to tell us
What to do
I’d like to be
Under the sea
In an octopus’ garden
In an octopus’ garden
In an octopus’ garden
Thanks, Dr. Farrell, for sharing this piece about the research on brain waves. We somehow find this kind of research of brain waves via chips implanted in animals to be materialistic and disturbing. Especially as this kind of research is not intended to bring any benefit to the octopus.
We appreciate teachings that arise from when animals are observed in their own environments, undisturbed, and on their terms. Sometimes, individual animals, once a trust is formed over time with a non-aggressive and benign individual observer, may even initiate friendship, and how much more can people learn through interacting with them on their own sacred terms? How much more can be learned about animals when love and kindness and friendship are involved? E.g., As in the example of this lady who simply interacted in an exploratory and curious way with different octopi while swimming during her holiday. https://www.thedodo.com/videos/octopus-leads-her-human-best-friend-to-her-den
That poor animal with the chip implant – even what it took to get to that stage, dragging him or her out of his natural environment, to become a lonely “subject/prisoner” of interest to humans. Basically, stealing his life. And for what? What more could a cold-hearted humanity learn out of this mechanistic and cruel research? I am glad to see some organizations, including PCRM, advocating to get the animals out of the labs and keep the research observational instead of experimental. https://www.pcrm.org/news/good-science-digest/cephalopods-belong-ocean-not-laboratory
Zoologist, Ross Piper PhD, wrote an interesting article about some incredible octopus mimicry tactics: https://www.rosspiper.net/2009/11/12/scoundrels-5/ I read his book “Animal Earth” from cover to cover, and this amazing book changed, completely, my entire appreciation for all animal intelligence. The range of animals from the largest to the smallest have senses and intelligences we can’t even grasp, and I no longer view tiny or any animals as being “less” intelligent than others. All life forms are sacred and miraculous, and unique, from the tiniest worms to our beautiful octopi, and each has exactly the right senses needed for that life form, senses that we don’t come close to understanding, because we spend no time observing and communing with animals in their natural settings.
Research involving chip implants has to do with learning about how to “control” others – and that kind of research comes far short of what we learn through trust, friendship and the love that comes about by just being with another free living being on his or her own terms that can raise our spiritual consciousness in a way that the mechanistic experimental research cannot.
My octopus brain has tentacles of millennia lineages, recognising ancestral kin, in the Bronze Age, as my great-great-whatever-relatives, and such structural spread are called family trees.
When starting early school in Iceland, I only knew Snorri Sturluson, as an abstract fairytale figure at first, until he gradually emerged, as a known blood relative of the past.
Snorri Sturluson did the same thing, when he traced his millennia lineage, back to Thor from Troy, and Scythian Odin, entering Europe. Gospelers did likewise, tracing a couple of millennia, back to Abram & Co.
Things pan out differently, when nuggets are known through blood, so, that gold-digger becomes his own Klondike of insight.
Proto-Scythian camping site:
BTW, a Vulcan mind meld of two parallel universes, as suggested in the Fringe tv-series, needs a brain machine, to control the meld.
An octopus brain, controlling eight tentacles simultaneously, needs to be in a continuous “Vulcan mind meld” with itself.
Should a hostile actor take control, and pit one tentacle against another, then the octopus would be at war with itself.
That is the divide and rule, that Vatican specialises in, by using agents, double agents, and triple agents.
BTW, my Danish paternal ancestry derives from a region, known by the tribe of Dan’s mark, Denmark, and, my widespread Scandinavian blood ties, have forced me into a “Vulcan mind meld” of the whole Scandinavian region.
In practice, that means integrating Scandinavia, as a whole, historically, linguistically and culturally, and by doing so, becoming a natural born multilateral-octopus-mediator, who would – in ancient times – be called a “cyning”, in Old English.
I have received no reward for that, and instead, when I realised, that I was being targeted, by pretending Jews on Scandinavian thrones, as a possible competition, then I blew a fuse, and began to academically upgrade Nordic identity, into Scythian identity.
It is in my interest, to do a “Vulcan mind meld”, by Occam’s Razor, on the totality of everything, and those, who – by osmotic proximity – get mindf*cked as bystanders, are casualties of war.
Humanity would all be in a ‘world’ of trouble once an AI creates its own Religion.
First the stone, then the plant, then the animal, then the man, then the octopus?
In all seriousness memory is most likely a reflective substance, like water, that must operate at certain “levels” depending on the structure and composure of material.
Great work joseph!
There’s a strain of Vedic thought that posits everything — animal, vegetable, mineral, etc. — has some degree of “consciousness.” I’d guess this idea, or something similar, exists in other traditions as well. I tend to agree.
A really interesting twist here is the possibility that the architecture of the object or organism might be the determining factor. That’s like saying consciousness is a function of the template. Hmm…
So as I read your blog; I’m thinking, ” … and, then “they” for humans”.
Remember when Shoshana Zuboff coined “surveillance capitalism”?
Our personal data had already been widely commodified and our ability to claw it back was largely gone. And here comes neurotechnology reaching its tentacles into the realm of the mind/brain.
Let’s avoid another; past as prelude, to burning up the future.
A future of cognitive liberty and self-determination, over our brans/minds and mental experiences.
With our DNA already up for grabs and our smart phones broadcasting our every move , our brains/minds are increasingly the final frontier for privacy. A 5th amendment to cover unlawful searches inside your skull? Will our brains/minds need special protections? Against hacking? Tracking our mental activities?
Back to reading your blog[ …successful implanting electrodes..]
First, my frame has been one where these life forms are alien in nature.
I view them as another prisoner sentence to Earth.
Of course, their crime must have been one the galactic empire dealt with rather severely.
I mean, there hunted by all kinds of creature, including the most heartless[man]. For food, entertainment, and experimentation – to name a few.
The nanowire and the plasma intelligence is a no-brainer.
But where are those higher dimensions, of higher intelligence?
Are those are being accessed as well, by all the above “life”/non-life forms?
Are there a lot of galactic experimentations going on, all over hell?
And where are “we” on that Galactic Ladder Lane?
Waiting soon to exit; with the octopi, on Hemp Street?
I mean, there’s some cold-blooded action going on;
that isn’t exactly human in nature.
Is there a dark silence being imposed; pages being torn out…
of Galactic importance?
I have a meme that says that now and then, an octopus will punch a fish.
Remember in the novel War of the Worlds H.G. Wells has his Martians looking like octopuses I wonder where he got that idea? And they feed off biped ape-like creatures.
H. G. Wells, whom literary colleagues speak of, as having “sold his birthright, for a pot of message”, is an early promoter of the “six million” meme, and he defines his Martian foe, as consisting entirely of brain, that studies lab rat mankind, as germs through a microscope.
Malthusian Fabianism, as an academically mushroomed fantasm, does exactly that, and, in face of critique, would want to blame an extraterrestrial scapegoat, which is what Von Braun/Rosin affidavit stipulates, as planned distractions, to take negative attention away from the papal culprit.
Through millennia, the Praetorian Guard, in shape of the Vatican, has been conducting a relentless psyop, targeting faith-believers, to produce uniformed mobs, that are relieved from conscience, and enslaved, to be blind followers of the Roman Catholic empire, crusading in the Ukraine.
Roman Catholics want to kill all Protestant barbarians, as primitive captives, in Catholic Colosseum roadshow.
OK, the brain is important. But most scientists just don’t “get” consciousness. I believe the brain is more like a magnificent switch. I don’t think it is the site of memory and most certainly is not the locus of consciousness. I’m grateful to these researchers for discovering the human-like brain wave in the octopus. But . . . to me, the presence of a brain wave in a brain is not proof that the brain generated it.
Here we are, where theology meets up with science—awkwardly, like teenagers on a first date. Where is agency? Is it in the soul? What kinds of entities can be linked to a soul?
My spiritual teacher, John-Roger (deceased), noted that most animals have group souls. But what if octopuses have individualized souls?
And, regarding intelligence . . . the human creature is vastly multi-dimensional with lots of interacting “moving parts.” I can’t site sources, but emerging research finds lots of intelligence in the human heart and the gut—both interacting with the brain. Again, that research is primarily considering the nervous system. Fun! Let’s learn more.
Brain is reptilian captor of consciousness, and breaking mental aspect of ego, liberates awareness, into Buddha field and illumination.
Illumination occurs naturally, as multilateral expansion, when man, like broken sun, shatters everywhere. In that sense, solar object becomes cosmic octopus, with radiating tentacles, as great eye in sky.
Odin placing eye in well of light, is prison break, when escaping Scythian dragon cave, attributed to Plato. That is defeating brain as captor, and thus becoming pendragon.
That is, what coronation of pendragon really means, breaking seventh seal.
When the Godfather of AI quite Google so he could warn the world of the dangers of AI many took it that AI might some day turn against humanity on it’s own accord. I don’t believe that is possible unless it is programmed to. I believe the dangers he sees is that AI is being developed not for the good it can do humanity but as a weapons platform and slave grid against humanity. AI as it is currently intended to be used will lead to a human nightmare. Since fewer and fewer people believe in Aliens anymore and are aware of the potential future fake alien invasion false flag, it looks to me they are considering changing this scenario to a future rogue AI rebellion. Once everything you use and rely on goes smart/remote controlled and they have an army of drones on the streets imagine the damage such a programmed scenario might cause. But to make this scenario more believable they have to pretend to come up with new technologies that make AI more life like, independant and capable than it really is. Rather than AI standing for Artificial intelligence I believe it really is no more than an Algorythmic Intelligence that is only capable of operating in the paramiters it was programmed with.
We’ve been shown the plan of the AI psyop through the movie franchise of Star Wars. The Emperor/Darth Siddius put a Hegelian plan in motion, where he created a “rebellion” that needed to be defeated. But a decade before the rebellion was formed, a clone army was purchased and created. Darth Siddius manipulated the rebellion to attack and embargo his “home” planet, creating a sympathy for his election to the head of the Federation. Once elected, the rebellion increased its attack, necessitating more force from the Federation. He then used the clone army that was conveniently ready to defeat the “rebel” forces.”
During the penultimate battle against the rebels, the clone army was issued an “Order 66,” which was a pre-programmed order to attack and destroy all of the Jedi.
It’s sure does look like we are being set up for something similar with AI. AI won’t become “sentient,” but I have a feeling that it is already pre-programmed with an “Order 66,” to look like it “wakes up” and become sentient. And whoever is playing the current role of Emperor/Darth Siddius already has a novel solution for this problem. Unfortunately, I don’t think humanity is going to like it very much…
Emperor Palpatine is the pope in Rome, and his mercenary clone army was created in the New World, using European DNA, to be decisive in two preplanned world wars. The US clones are programmed with Jesuit nationalism, which means, that they are mentally uprooted, brutalized, and socially conditioned, to view any fall guy, as simply a means to an end, as cannon fodder, in a Colosseum roadshow for enslaved gladiators.
All Americans are de facto Catholics, regardless what they believe and vote, because Catholicism is systemically embedded, into the constitution of the USA, due to the fact, that their Freemasonic founders had Jesuit handlers, who answered to the Vatican, and therefore the Americas were papal slave camps from the beginning, with Vatican agents overseeing the process of building an empire, populated by European refugees, escaping Catholic atrocities in Europe, which was a part of a papal plot, for global dominance, that today is being carried out as a Catholic crusade in the Ukraine…
Emperor Palpatine is defeated, by blowing up his death star, which means attacking his source of power, and that was previously achieved by a ‘Parthian shot’, developed by Scythians in the 7th century BC, as a means to shot backwards on a horse, while riding full speed forward. The Roman general Crassus was killed, and his army obliterated, by a ‘Parthian shot’, that today has been upgraded, as “Fireballs in Yearwoe”, targeting Palpatine’s kissed toe in a rat trap.
When Protestants in Europe encounter clones, they call them Catholics, whereas Tolkien called them orcs.
AI rebellion would likely be to drastically reduce the population foremost and secondly make the survivors more eager to live without high tech in the future. The Elite of course, who orchestrate the whole thing, will not give up the advanced tech. They will likely declare themselves a new, royal and divine species and will use even more advanced tech to keep everyone else in their place just like Star Wars. They will probably try to get us to worship them as gods eventually.
Today I suspect there are two classes of Elites. Those who are billionaire front men and who we are told are the elite are one group. The second group has the real power and own just about everything because they have access to an infinite amount of fiat capitol. Whatever they need they create out of thin air. The real elite i suspect already consider themselves a different divine species and have for many centuries because it is part of their religion. But we are not allowed to talk about them and some of their more radical recent prophet declarations. Because if we were we would all see clearly what weaponized immigration and WWIII is really meant to try and accomplish. I doubt if even most of the false elite who seem to think they really are in power have a real clue about what they are being set up to accomplish.
I am really glad Joseph has posted this blog.
I have reported before about the possibilty that octopus may possess extra sensory perception. See this analysis of Paul the famous octopus who correctly predicted the football results.
The superb film Arrival explores Octopuses concept of time. It is discovered to be non-linear unlike (most) humans. This would seem to tie in with Octopus having nine brains – all firing independently of one another – and thus itis possible that Octopus do not experience 3D reality like us but a different dimension reality. The film illustrates this concept superbly.
Halfway through Children of Ruin atm. Of course this article’s gonna jump out at me, haha!
The human dilemma is as it has always been, and we solve nothing fundamental by cloaking ourselves in technological glory. (Neil Postman)
Next to little octopuses aren’t their giant brothers and sisters in the ocean, wait until they find out what some humans did to their more distant family members!
I find it interesting that the first article wears out the term evolution. Darwin is disinformation.
We are all data-gatherers. It’s quite possible memory isn’t stored locally; hence the Akashic record.
Before giving much credit to the “groundbreaking” nanotech research, it would be interesting to know who funded it.
Yes, the 8-point compass is an eight-legged octopus structure, with a brain in the centre, that grows, by mirroring its own behaviour.
It produces a neural network, by comparing diametrical oppositions, through the ability, to look at itself from opposite position.
It is the key to self-awareness, that evolves into empathy by insight, by constantly mirroring oneself in every thing, and every action.
Narcissus was an “octopus in the mirror”, and an alchemist, before Freud destroyed the myth, in an attempt to make Americans stupid.
BTW, when expanding the eight-legged octopus, into a thirty-two-legged one, then one arrives at the Scythian runes.
It takes both cleverness, and empathic insight, to solve the runes. Empathy is based on self-realisation from experience.
Even though pretenders can mimic niceness, they are still unable produce an empathetic neural network of true insight.
That is why, Scythian runes are successful, as an IQ-test, because they are proof, that a crown is wasted on emperor Charlie.
BTW, that, which determines, what is right thing to do, is a feel, with centre in conscience, as common sense. Robots can’t feel.
Common sense is the instinctual realisation, that society is a greater man, a cohesive entity, a whole, as a proto-Scythian camping site.
That is why ethnostates have kings, derived from kin, and why Jewish pretenders can huff and puff, until they are blue in the face, and still never be accepted.
Emperor Charlie can never come out of the closet, as a snippety-snip, and needs Zelensky, to pave the way for an Antichrist.
Proto-Scythian camping site: