THE GREAT PYRAMID WEAPON HYPOTHESIS: A RESPONSE TO SESH HERI

In Babylon's Banksters I spend a great deal of time exploring the suppression of alternative physics both in ancient and in modern times, by the financial elites of the respective eras. As with so much of this research, my aim has been to damped the enthusiasm of the "jonquils and daisies" community within the alternative research community, many of whom continue to recoil from my weapons function hypothesis for the Great Pyramid, advanced in my Giza Death Star trilogy. Herewith is an excerpt from Babylon's Banksters, concerning one such individual, and his arguments:

Such, alas, is the case with the recent appearance of the work of a friend of mine, Sesh Heri, and his Handprint of Atlas. Heri indeed advances and argues a novel and intriguing hypothesis, namely, that the entire topography and geomorphology of land features and even the continents themselves are results of such standing waves in the earth. And in a brilliant insight, he couples this idea with the whole idea of the layout of certain artificial monuments and constructions around significant naturally occurring geomorphologies. These brilliant insights remain worthy of consideration, despite my following critique of his misunderstandings.

Heri states in his book the following in reference to my weapon hypothesis for the Great Pyramid as outlined in my Giza Death Star Trilogy:

 

“Such a thesis as Farrell develops in his Giza Death Star trilogy is compelling, breathtaking, chilling, and scientifically convincing in its details, and yet….

     “The same critique that I would apply to Dunn’s electrical power plant thesis, I would also apply in a variant form to Farrell’s weapon thesis as well. While the Great Pyramid, as a transmitter of longitudinal electric waves, could certainly be deployed as a weapon, why would it have been built specifically for the purpose of being used as a weapon? Is a ground based longitudinal electrical wave transmitter the ideal way to configure a massively destructive scalar beam weapon – especially a scalar beam weapon designed for interplanetary war? I would think that a mobile position in space would be the strategically ideal location for a scalar beam weapon…. A civilization that could build the Great Pyramid could also build a giant space platform and mount upon it a longitudinal electric wave transmitter that could propagate massively powerful scalar beams capable of splitting a planet apart.  Such a space platform would also be capable at an instant’s notice of moving from its position in space at superluminal speed….

     “So why would an advanced civilization build a weapon that was a “sitting duck”? Much more likely, a facility such as the Great Pyramid would be an object to be protected by a space platform, not primarily a weapon. Certainly, the Great Pyramid would have been capable of propagating scalar beams in defense if it was attacked. But a true predatory weapon would have to be able to move – and move very quickly.”

 

Before proceeding with the rest of Heri’s critique of my weapon hypothesis for the Great Pyramid, these critiques must be addressed. As already noted in the main text, the best natural oscillators of these “scalar” resonances are large masses such as planets and stars. To miss this point is to miss entirely the point of the physics involved. Thus, if one were to build mobile space platform for Heri’s version of such a weapon, one might accordingly have to do so on almost planetary scale. Not that it could not be done, of course, for the types of civilizations as he, and I, are positing might be capable of doing so, but the purpose of doing so is not cost effective, for it is entirely unnecessary for such a weapon system to be able to move in order to target a specific object, no matter how far distant. The targeting is by resonance and interferometry. The “point-aim-and-shoot” model he is implying is not necessary and indeed in a certain sense almost counter to the whole nature of the system. Similarly, such a system would be defensible precisely on the same basis of exploiting the base planetary system’s geometry and local resonance. In short, it is not necessary for it to move in order to be either offensively “predatory” or “defensible” in either case.

Heri’s second critique is far more telling, but suffers from its own shortcomings:

 

“But this strategic flaw is not the most compelling argument against Farrell’s view that the Great Pyramid was originally destined to be a weapon; rather, it is Farrell’s own repeated emphasis that the Great Pyramid is too “over-engineered” to be anything other than a weapon that draws my attention. Farrell makes the point several times in his Giza trilogy that the evidence indicates that the Great Pyramid was able to transmit energy to “Any Possible Receiver in local space” without requiring a complex receiving apparatus at the load end.  And he presents some very good evidence and arguments that this indeed was the case. But from this he extrapolates that such a sophisticated device could only be constructed for one purpose and one purpose only – to be used as a weapon of mass destruction – to decimate cities and continents – or to blow up planets. But while such a sophisticated device certainly could be used as a weapon, there is no logical reason that it could only be used as a weapon. Indeed, the very kind of highly sophisticated and sensitive tuning characteristics of such a device suggest to me a more likely constructive use than a destructive one. Sensitive, precise focusing and tuning are the characteristics of careful, constructive manipulation of material substance, not a sledge-hammer disintegration of it. A device that could send energy to “Any Possible Receiver” could send much more than destructive waves – it would have the capacity to send carefully modulated waves of energy that could communicate, nourish, build, and grow. The extreme precision evinced by the Great Pyramid strongly suggests that it was designed to be used as a scalpel, not a sword.”

 

While I am grateful to Heri that he has indeed perceived my arguments accurately and outlined them fairly to a certain extent, and has not resorted to the dismissive tactic of some in the alternative community who simply dismiss the whole hypothesis out of wishful thinking or appeals to “mentors” and “authorities” with access to a presumed millennia-old unwritten tradition, again Heri fails to see the nature of the physics involved, for precision tuning of the very finest surgical precision would indeed be needed – as evidenced by Tesla’s own remarks - especially if it were deployed as a weapon, precisely in order to avoid the feedback resonance effects noted by Bearden. So this cannot be used as an argument against the weapon hypothesis.

Similarly, the reverse argument that Heri implies – that all its scalpel-like precision and fine tuning evince a constructive purpose for its construction and primary use also fails, for as the copious citations of Tesla in the main text I hope make clear, one and the very same physics and technology can be used for either purpose, that is to say, anyone building any such device would know as an inevitable implication of the physics employed and involved, that one was building both a “power plant” and a weapon. It is impossible to disentangle the two, and in Tesla’s own words, in such a system it is necessary to “grip the earth.” I have merely stated the case in the Giza Death Star Trilogy for the weapon hypothesis as being the ultimate purpose of the Pyramid’s construction simply because so many wish or choose to ignore this implication of the physics involved. But it is clearly evident in the physics. The true purposes of building such a system would, needless to say, probably be kept secret from the general public at any time, just as Tesla kept the true purpose of Wardenclyffe hidden from J.P. Morgan, and even after revealing it to him, only later and in desperation publicly disclosed its weaponization potential. But that potential was clearly present from the beginning as a logical entailment of the physics, and anyone building such a system would know that. Therefore to exclude the possibility of an intentional construction of a weapon from the motivation or purpose in building such systems is a logical impossibility.  In short, at one and the same time as one is building a system for all Heri’s wonderful constructive purposes, one is building by the nature of the case, a weapon, whether one builds it in space or not, and at the very moment that system becomes operational for all those wonderful and constructive purposes, it also becomes operational as a weapon.

(Quotations from Sesh Heri, The Handprint of Atlas: The Artifical Axis of the Earth and How it Shaped Human Destiny (Highland, California: Corvos Books, Lost Continent Library Publishing Co., 2008) pp. 240-241.)

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".

32 Comments

  1. Digging for Dread on September 18, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    the great pyrimid was a power plant, that is why obisisks are made of pure quartz so that they can cunduct electricity… the pyrimids where built with the chambers they have. there is also debate about the entrance to hell being in one of them, still awaiting that ones confromation. i was conducting a archialogical dig and my team and i, and we came across a few artifacts, looking into those with NHM



  2. Prince Corey on May 11, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    It is a weapon but not the way you think. When activated they will repair our ionosphere. Building proper orgonite around the world will strengthen the ley lines and activate the pyramids. It is a weapon in the sense that the Fallen angels from Venus can not enter our atmosphere. The ionosphere is our shield. It protects us from solar activity. Venus is a dieing planet that feeds on itself and all the universe is filled with life. The fallen angels on that “morning star” where Jesus/Sananda resides have already raped, pillaged and plundered Mars on the closest approach of Venus. Venus’ long orbit is around Earth and beyond Mars. Right now there are 2 holes in the ionosphere with which the fallen ones could pass through. There are fallen angel descendants here on Earth -the G7. They are the top of the pyramidal structure of the masons/illuminati/skull and bones/Present public Royal family/Khan empire/Khazar zionists/mongols, you get the bloodlines. The agenda is to use humans to stockpile resources that burn. The longer it takes to burn- the more valuable it is. It is all being stockpiled in one place for easy removal (China) All the oil wells, natural gas wells are reserves. In the arctic, they find it and put on a cap for a future pipeline —not gonna happen, there is no future only destiny. Those well heads are for the spacecraft when they arrive to hook up to to remove our resources. While here they will rape, pillage and plunder much the same as the Khan empire lives by. HARRP, Chemtrails, etc are to destroy our ionosphere. They realize that energy must be burned to reserve resources (collateral cost)To stop us from using too much they just raise prices to stop us from going camping on weekends. Do not buy orgonite from pay sites – it is negative DOR, build it yourself and use a quartz crystal or neodymium magnet in order to turn DOR into POR It will also burn the negative ones as well as positively charge our planets ley lines and trigger the pyramids (which still work, they are giant organite machines with rose granite, calcite, etc motors)Etheric energy.



  3. USpaladin on December 16, 2009 at 9:32 am

    Just to insert more interesting questions, perhaps “Atlantis” may be more correctly referred to as “Phaeton?”



  4. David Antelo on October 28, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwAvqvI-ZQU
    The earth of Musus. The Atlantis region.

    Inside of the plain you can find huge artificial hills
    in terms of high and extension, with several square kilometers.
    Its 20,000 hills are connected to the mega-shaped artificial lagoons
    as a quadrilateral rectangle, whose length in many cases can be measured in tens of square kilometers.
    This hydraulic system is connected with straight channels, dams, terraces, and a vast extension of farmland in the form of ridges.
    At its core, there is a circular archipelago of islands, connected by straight channels that cross the flatness, which in turn are connected to high fields, forming an entire hydraulic mega-system.

    David Antelo



  5. Chuck McCorkle on October 26, 2009 at 1:11 am

    TO THE AUTHOR:

    The presence of Iridium is always found in craters on Earth that were caused by impacting asteroids. My question is: Can we determine if the old craters that you believe may have resulted from ancient weapons contain any Iridium? And, would this be a fair test?

    Chuck McCorkle



    • Chuck McCorkle on October 27, 2009 at 4:36 pm

      To save time and move forward I will post the answer to this question given to me by the author.

      Iridium testing has not been performed on sites that show evidence of ancient cratering (nuclear detonation vs asteroid impact). In addition, Dr. Farrell did say it would be worthwhile to do.

      Maybe this is a brain-fart, but anyone interested in doing this should contact me through Dr. Farrell. Any starving Geologists out there?

      It’s a small point to harp on, but if proven this small detail could do much in advancing the Paleoancient physics theory.

      Sincerely,
      Chuck McCorkle



  6. Matt B on October 15, 2009 at 11:18 am

    Well the plot thickens. Seems the ‘powers that be’ are having to give a little ground.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8307804.stm

    Magnetic charge, crystals and pyramids…….hhhhmmmmmm, haven’t we heard this before.

    I’m looking forward to the ‘oh the boson Higgs doesn’t exist, but hey we found an Aether field’. Yes I know i am far to hopeful.



  7. Chuck McCorkle on September 23, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    It’s funny, from a very young age I considered myself Athiest. Obviously, God was not some guy with a white flowing beard. Santa Claus also had one and it just seemed a bit too convenient for my 10 year old brain.

    Despite that, I always went with my folks to church on Sunday even though I didn’t have to. Being surrounded by good people is a feeling like no other.

    I remember when one of my heroes told me that he was religous, I was shocked. YOU, are religous?? He said; “Yes, but not like you are thinking. The Europeans wrote and re-wrote everything over such a long time that who knows what really happened. And yet, I believe that someone named Jesus did exist”.

    I never forgot what he said. It’s strange that after all this time and learning, a process that I originally thought would have the opposite effect, I have actually grown more spiritual. I’d be lying if I said some higher power did not give me comfort as well.

    Kindest regards



  8. ericswan on September 23, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    Why are the pyramids not mentioned in the bible? Could it be that the pyramids represented a faction that was opposed to the mind control of religion i.e. science?



    • Justina on January 12, 2011 at 4:21 pm

      some things are so self evident, and so irrelevant to the day to
      day business of life, that in a limited paper/parchment context,
      there is no need to mention them.

      In modern times, an example would be the Twin Towers,
      before 9/11.

      or the airline industry. Everybody knows about this, so some
      direction “go thou to New York City immediately, and there
      conduct a prayer session, and buy property from the locals
      and plant a field of hjybrid corn” is not going to mention
      airlines, because you already know they are a travel fast
      option, and the Twin Towers might be visible from where you
      plant the corn, but they are irrelevant.



  9. Arend Lammertink on September 23, 2009 at 8:12 am

    “The thing that constantly gives me comfort in discovering the most horrific things, and I have seen many, is that I am not qualified to fight this. I’m not qualified to judge these acts. If it’s been generations in the making, what can I do? What should I do?”

    @Chuck: What you say is very recognizable to me, it’s basically where I stood a couple of weeks ago. And indeed, we are not qualified to fight nor judge people.

    When you bring all religions down to their basics, there are only two religions in this world. One has many faces and is about to be united, because in the end, all religions but one are variations on the teachings of the Atlantians, or whatever the name of the lost civilization was, who ruled the world before the great flood. The most fundamental characteristic of all these teachings is that there is a separation between the ‘initiated’ and the ordinary people, the cattle or “goyem”, as explained by Albert Pike.

    I have come to the conclusion that in the end, there is only one choice. It’s either this ‘initiated’/’goyem’ separation with all their lies and their deceiving, or it’s the word of God as being laid down in the Bible, as explained so well by Walter Veith. And that totally changed me. I am no longer scared for this whole mess, because I now really believe Jesus Christ is the truth and that he will make an end to this mess soon and will fight and judge these horrendous people.

    All I can say is: that’s the answer I eventually found, and it works for me and it gives me so much hope and relieve. It may also work for you.



  10. Chuck McCorkle on September 22, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    Every word of that might be true. I don’t know. If it is, then the world is truly in for a nightmare. But I am always weary of things that may be meant to instill fear and paranoia in me. The Liars are truly masters of this. They have been in the intelligence trade for 500 years and they know what they’re doing. I garauntee that a computer somewhere knows that I am typing this. I am probably a Red-flag citizen. Go ahead, read my emails, dissect my poop, I don’t care.

    I have always held the belief that someday there would be a cataclysm. I can feel it. Something just seems very off. Everyone is so comfortable and blissfully unaware of everything while considering themselves to be the most interesting thing around (Americans anyway). In a way, it’s what we have sown.

    We are the enemy, there’s no doubt about it. If they have shown one thing over and over it’s that they do fear us. “The People” have always been a thorn in the side of our rulers. Those pesky subjects! For now, I can watch JayZ and Biance sing New York at the MTV Awards, I can travel the world and educate myself as much as I want to. I can basically do anything if I am persistent and determined. This might be freedom, and I’m not going to pass it up. I try to help others that are truly on any path and enjoy life where I can.

    The thing that constantly gives me comfort in discovering the most horrific things, and I have seen many, is that I am not qualified to fight this. I’m not qualified to judge these acts. If it’s been generations in the making, what can I do? What should I do?



  11. Arend Lammertink on September 22, 2009 at 7:52 am

    “For whatever reason, Hitler decided to go after the Reds and that was really it for them. Looking back, he probably thought he had a superweapon and it turned out to have difficulties which needed precious time.”

    @Chuck:

    In one of my quests, I found references to a letter supposedly written by Albert Pike in 1871 to a certain Mazzini. (Google for “pike three world wars”).
    While it can not be proven that he indeed wrote this letter, the substance if this letter is very interesting, because it has been published in 1925 Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez of Santiago, Chile, in his book “The Mystery of Freemasonry Unveiled”.

    So, while no conclusive proof exists to show that this letter was ever written, it is proven that the substance was published in 1925, whomever the real source was. And it is this substance that is very interesting, since it shows that someone already knew the outcome of WW-II in 1925, well before the war was actually fought. What has been laid out there, is nothing less then a plan to conquer the whole world. See threeworldwars [dot] com:

    [quote]

    Following are apparently extracts of the letter, showing how Three World Wars have been planned for many generations.

    “The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the “agentur” (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions.” 2

    Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War.

    “The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm.” 3

    After this Second World War, Communism was made strong enough to begin taking over weaker governments. In 1945, at the Potsdam Conference between Truman, Churchill, and Stalin, a large portion of Europe was simply handed over to Russia, and on the other side of the world, the aftermath of the war with Japan helped to sweep the tide of Communism into China.

    (Readers who argue that the terms Nazism and Zionism were not known in 1871 should remember that the Illuminati invented both these movements. In addition, Communism as an ideology, and as a coined phrase, originates in France during the Revolution. In 1785, Restif coined the phrase four years before revolution broke out. Restif and Babeuf, in turn, were influenced by Rousseau – as was the most famous conspirator of them all, Adam Weishaupt.)

    “The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.” 4

    Since the terrorist attacks of Sept 11, 2001, world events, and in particular in the Middle East, show a growing unrest and instability between Modern Zionism and the Arabic World. This is completely in line with the call for a Third World War to be fought between the two, and their allies on both sides. This Third World War is still to come, and recent events show us that it is not far off.

    [end quote]

    This is quite a disturbing publication, because it suggests that the whole holocaust was not just a matter of blind hatred against the Jews, it was planned that way, in order to create an excuse for creating the state of Israel in Palestine, which is needed to be able to have Israel and the Islamic countries “mutually destroy each other” in the third world war that was also planned.



  12. Jonathan on September 21, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    Sorry, 2004 or 5 doesn’t really make a difference, not that involvement since then is without merit–I certainly don’t mean to suggest so, only that many have reached your conclusions by using different sources and many many variations of those sources.

    All I was saying about Maxwell’s equations and the Michelson/Morely paper (1887) was that neither says what the text books say, and one can read both in the original. Many, including a retired colonel, don’t appear to know the latter point.

    A guy named Barrett also has different “Maxwell’s” equations published in the last dozen years.

    I think your point about interactions with nothing makes clear the point that what is perhaps called nothing is indeed something that we–that’s people–don’t exactly understand yet as a thing–it’s not a standard electromagnetic field.

    If various powers didn’t want Pike read, then his book would have been burnt a long time ago–this kind of thing has happened more than once fairly recently–that means within the last 50 years. I can think of two examples in the US, and more in the wider world.

    Again: I suggest reading more of Farrell’s books and asking the question: Why.



  13. Arend Lammertink on September 21, 2009 at 10:36 am

    @ Jonathan:

    It was *around* 2005, actually it was 2004, I wrote an article back then, which describes my first involvement, which you can find with googling for “lammertink site:osnews.com”.

    As for the Maxwell equations: Prof. Meyl derives them directly from Faraday’s laws. That way, you don’t need to postulate a charge carrier. The EM field is the *cause* that matter exists. When you postulate charge carriers, which would be matter, you create a dog running for it’s own tail, since then you can’t have a field without matter, while actually you can’t have matter without the fields. And yes, this is one of those tiny little errors in the textbooks which ultimately happens to be the reason why “hard science” cannot explain “scalar waves” and “COP > 1″ electrical systems. What a remarkable coincidence!

    As for “conspiracy theory”, let me point you to the *official* handbook of the FreeMasons, written by Albert Pike. You know, Klu Klux Clan. This book should never have been available to the public, yet you can read it at gutenberg.org, since it’s copyright is expired.

    “The Templars were unintelligent and therefore unsuccessful Jesuits.

    Their watchword was, to become wealthy, in order to buy the world. They
    became so, and in 1312 they possessed in Europe alone more than nine
    thousand seignories.”

    “The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry.”

    “The Templars, like all other Secret Orders and Associations, had two doctrines, one concealed and reserved for the Masters, which was Johannism; the other public, which was the _Roman Catholic_.”

    It’s the secret (Masonic) organisations behind the screens. Not just the bankers.



    • Arend Lammertink on September 21, 2009 at 10:40 am

      Oops. Forgot the title of Pike’s book: “Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry”.

      You can find it by googling for: “morals dogmas pike site:gutenberg.org”



  14. Arend Lammertink on September 17, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    @ Jonathan:

    It was *around* 2005, actually it was 2004, I wrote an article back then, which describes my first involvement:
    http://www.osnews.com/story/7442

    As for the Maxwell equations: Prof. Meyl derives them directly from Faraday’s laws. That way, you don’t need to postulate a charge carrier. The EM field is the *cause* that matter exists. When you postulate charge carriers, which would be matter, you create a dog running for it’s own tail, since then you can’t have a field without matter, while actually you can’t have matter without the fields. And yes, this is one of those tiny little errors in the textbooks which ultimately happens to be the reason why “hard science” cannot explain “scalar waves” and “COP > 1” electrical systems. What a remarkable coincidence!

    As for “conspiracy theory”, let me point you to the *official* handbook of the FreeMasons, written by Albert Pike. You know, Klu Klux Clan. This book should never have been available to the public, yet you can read it at gutenberg.org, since it’s copyright is expired:

    http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/19447

    “The Templars were unintelligent and therefore unsuccessful Jesuits.

    Their watchword was, to become wealthy, in order to buy the world. They
    became so, and in 1312 they possessed in Europe alone more than nine
    thousand seignories.”

    “The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry.”

    “The Templars, like all other Secret Orders and Associations, had two doctrines, one concealed and reserved for the Masters, which was Johannism; the other public, which was the _Roman Catholic_.”

    It’s the secret (Masonic) organisations behind the screens. Not just the bankers.



  15. Jonathan on September 16, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    @Arend Lammertink:

    Glad you’ve read “Reich of the Black” Sun, and you certainly seem to accept the idea of an ancient very high civilization, BUT I think that the few tens of thousands of years you ascribe to that/those civilizations’ existences need to be vastly increased given what Dr. Farrell and others have written.

    Also, and far more interesting to me, is the question of what these various different histories imply about what we consider fundamental and established hard science of today, 2009. Beyond “Reich of the Black Sun”, many of Farrell’s books delve into this subject, hence I encourage you to read more and to broaden some assumptions. One of Farrell’s strengths, is that he mostly avoids overly simplified explanations and he credits other authors assiduously–while making clear where he disagrees with those other writers.



    • Arend Lammertink on September 17, 2009 at 8:22 am

      @Jonathan,

      Let me just tell you a bit about my personal quest for the truth and where I stand now.

      I have a university degree in Electrical Engineering, so I have a pretty thorough education in hard science. I used to be a convinced atheist and was convinced the evolution theory was correct and the result of proper science, the way I was thaught and thus believed science was done.

      Around 2005, I have been involved in the campaign against software patents in Europe, so I learned a lot about how politics works in practice: the decisions were literally made during dinners, microphones that “accidentally” broke so the public couldn’t hear what was being said, you name it. After that, we got the story about the new European Constitution, which was rejected by the public, and is being pushed ahead anyway. To make a long story short: I learned what I believed in, democracy, was an illusion. So that was the first thing I used to believe to be true that went down.

      Then, I started investigating 9/11 and I found out more and more about what’s going on behind the screens. Hitler being financed from Wall Street (Prof. Sutton), the Soviet Union (Stalin) being financed from Wall Street, Prince Bernhards World Wild Fund being a disguise in order to control and rob a whole continent. All those secret organisations: the Bildergerg group, the Trilateral Commission, etc. More and more, I concluded that we are heading towards a totally controlled, one-world, fascist government and it sceared the hell out of me. I became depressed and spent half a year at home, because I was unable to work because of this mess.

      When I was recovered, I ran into “free energy”, you know, those “perpetuum mobile’s” that are inpossible according to “hard science”. I read lots of articles on the internet about this and did some experiments myself. I found out that there are quite a number of devices in existence today that can deliver all the energy we need out of “thin air”, because the electric field is only half understood by “hard science”. Google for Thomas Bearden, Prof. Konstantin Meyl and Prof. Klaus Turtur if you’re interested. Basically that was the second thing I beleived to be true that had to come down. Science is not being practiced the way it should and it’s results are manipulated in order to match the agenda of those secret societies that want to lead us towards a “new world order”.

      Then, I ran into the lectures of Prof. Walter Veith, who presents lots of arguments against the evolution theory, arguments I never heard of before. Arguments that had been shuffed under the carpet. I had a very hard time accepting that the whole evolution theory was basically just another lie, but in the end, it was the third truth I used to believe in that went down the drain. The evolution theory just doesn’t fit the evidence. The only reason people still believe it, is because they are being misled and the evidence is being withold.
      If you’re interested, look at: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4211-our-skrinking-sun-curious-time-line.html for the lectures I meant.

      Then I continued with Veith’s lectures about the Bible, and discovered that the whole mess I described above whas predicted in the bible. I don’t want to go into details here, you can see Veiths lectures for yourself and see what you think of it, but the end of the story is that I came to believe that the bible actually is more accurate then “hard” science makes us believe it is.

      So, that’s where I stand now.

      That brings me on the question of the time-line of the lost, advanced civilization that appears to have existed. Given what’s being said in the bible, and given that I believe it to be accurate, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it would eventually turn out that the age of the earth is very over-estimated. And even though I have a hard time believing that Veith’s interpretation of the bible, which would put the earth’s age at max. 7700 years, I am now at a point that I have seen so many things I believed in go down the drain, that I consider even that number a possibility.



      • Jonathan on September 17, 2009 at 12:35 pm

        Arend Lammertink:



      • Jonathan on September 17, 2009 at 12:47 pm

        @Arend Lammertink:

        Don’t take this the wrong way, but only since 2005? I’ve certainly read some of the authors you cite and am aware the original form of Maxwell’s equations–and for that matter the actual conclusion to the Michelson/Morely paper; it isn’t anything close to what almost all physics textbooks say.

        I think the idea that “international bankers” did it is a simplistic answer which never explains why the level of trouble and suppression ascribed to them would be so important.

        Again: I encourage you to read Farrell’s other books besides “Reich of the Black Sun”. Then there’s always people like Richard Hoagland or even Wilhelm Reich–including the psychology.



      • Chuck McCorkle on September 22, 2009 at 5:52 am

        I can empathize. My paradigm shifted and it was hard but I was always starving for more good information. There wasn’t much.

        It may be that seeing the underpinnings of a large political structure opened your eyes to certain attitudes which surprised you and spurred you to look for more answers about how things really work. Maybe layers of the process keyed you in to other lower layers, some dark. And everything came into question. It should!

        I have an experience that may help. Or may not, but here it is:

        When I was 18, I was totally shocked and disillusioned to learn that it was very likely our leaders knew full well that Pearl Harbor was about to be attacked. My dad was an Officer in the U.S. Army during the second World War. The idea that this happened had appalled him, and he rejected it completely at first. Later on as established historians began to break it down, he accepted the notion that his leaders had probably done this for the benefit of everyone. A necessary evil.

        I really doubt either of us is qualified to judge the people who made this decision. Americans did not want to enter the war at that time, and we all know what would have happened if we had left well enough alone. “By the skin of our teeth” as Joseph points out was the Life Magazine headline. By all accounts the Nazi’s were really freakin advanced. For whatever reason, Hitler decided to go after the Reds and that was really it for them. Looking back, he probably thought he had a superweapon and it turned out to have difficulties which needed precious time. By the verbal accounts of his personal aides, he had drawn a huge blue line into Russia one night. While collecting the maps off the table in the morning they knew what it meant and thought he had gone insane.

        The moral was, the intention behind something so evil (not warning the fleet) was actually good in the end. Lucky for them. Either way, they were protecting their interests which were based in our semi-free society.

        Spreading everywhere. Evil? It might be. Infested with Nazi’s? Very likely. Responsible for thousands (and thousands and thousands) of political assasinations? Definitely! It’s possible that not one of these murders was in our best interests. But the fact remains that the world power centers are best considered as competing conspiracies. Power centers big and small that still vie for power. There is no Cigar Cabal running the whole thing.

        If I really tried to create an accurate mosaic of all the Intelligence work / Secret Societies (et al.) Financial / Industrial activity that has gone on and totally operated our world for the last 60 years, I would go insane.

        Grain of salt method:

        First Rule of psychological warfare is: Always include a nugget of truth to your manipulations. This can be worked in several directions for multiple purposes but the gist is to give the idea some verifiable credibility. Enough to get things moving. From there it can organically grow and you can shape it like a Bonzai tree. The crazies will always come. There are probably more people writing, producing, educating and Repeating for this hidden agenda than ever imagined.

        The Hopefools and Liars will try to get your interest and waste your time in any way they can. Hopefools want to be heard and recognized (hence the longwinded esoteric junk books amany). And paid liars are just insidious. They want to freak you out and get you talking about something that has a grain of truth with fantastic fillers so that you will sound crazy. You will then clam-up and read even more to get more answers but you really end up brainwashing yourself. Whenever the people who heard your crazy story hear something regarding the same subject in the future, they will always dismiss any further facts whether they are true or not because they once heard that somewhere and crystallized a negative response toward the subject.

        It’s easy to say this is protecting a vast empire of wealth (because they all have a stake in it). But I like to think that the rules for compartmentalization and the plays that they make are protecting something more. Propulsion that could deliver anything to our shores in less than a second (granted because we have already witnessed this technology achievement for over sixty years). Technology that would empower the dumbest people in our world to excercise control over you and me.

        I want ruthless leaders protecting the American way of life. There cannot be other ruthless power centers running around with these abilities. No. If Farrells work proves it actually was weaponry (for which I think he makes a very convincing case), it would be a strong indication that people here at one time almost destroyed everything we now know, while at eachother’s throats. If they were really protecting us (from aliens attacking our sun or something), then that threat hasn’t existed for ten millenia. Wouldn’t someone have come back in all this time to finish it while we were weak? Who the heck knows. Which is why I’m going to enjoy it all and try to live free from paranoia because though I may find some answers, nuggets, lies and more questions, there’s not a whole lot I can do about it but educate myself and be cautious.. Life is short, this organism has existed for a long time and is bigger than any of it’s members, or it’s subjects. It will probably go on long after you and me.

        CHEERS



  16. Arend Lammertink on September 16, 2009 at 8:27 am

    “In short, at one and the same time as one is building a system for all Heri’s wonderful constructive purposes, one is building by the nature of the case, a weapon, whether one builds it in space or not, and at the very moment that system becomes operational for all those wonderful and constructive purposes, it also becomes operational as a weapon.”

    …. Which may give us the reason why it has been destroyed. If you consider it possible that there once was a lost civilisation, that lived virtually in a paradise with food in abundance, because of their sophisticated climate control system, it may also be possible that certain cinister individuals started to gain power and at some point became a threat to the whole civilization, because of the potential use of the system as a weapon.

    So, then it is also possible that the constructor of the system destroyed it and most of the world with it, precisely to prevent the weapon-use of the system.

    Hmmm. Interesting.

    What about the idea that the system was built to be a climate control system and operated as such for centuries, and then some “uproar” came and the very same system was used to create the great flood *and* to sink Atlantis?

    I think that would certainly be possible with sophisticated global-scale scalar wave technology, given what I’ve read about what HAARP supposedly can do.



  17. Arend Lammertink on September 16, 2009 at 8:09 am

    @Jonathan,

    You are right, but must of them are quotes.

    Unfortunately, I don’t have the time at the moment to read these books, even though I’m very much interested in the subject. I have read Joseph’s book on the Reich of the Black Sun and it was one of the best books I’ve ever read.

    What I’m trying to say is that there may be other explanations, that may also fit the evidence I’m sure Joseph gathered. The information I have, including the bible, which speaks of a great flood destroying the guarden of Eden, which may be one and the same as Atlantis, suggests that there may have been a highly advanced, lost civilisation, as is also said by Graham Hancock.

    The geological record shows that once lots of animals were much larger then their current offspring. This suggests that before the great flood the climate supported the growth of much more and/or more nutricious food. (See the lectures of Prof. Walter Veith on this subject, you can find them on google video and youtube)

    That suggests that there may have been a climate control system. Given that there are quite some details about the construction of the pyramids and the sphynx that suggest that these were built with very sophisticated technology, more sophisticated then ours, one is tempted to conclude that these pyramids might have been constructed in order influence the climate.

    As far as I can tell, history as well as the geological does support the idea of a catastrophic flood, but I’m not aware of any evidence suggesting the use of a sophisticated weapon.

    So, all I’m saying is: have you thought of this?

    I might be completely wrong, but I may also have a point helping you further in the quest for the truth.



  18. Luso on September 11, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    I have yet to understand what is it that people see in Wilcock. He just seems to be a clever “weaver” of the most trendy “alternative theories”.
    “Jonquils and daisies community”: well said! Those people just simply seem refuse to accept humans nature with their natural violent and predatory sides and thus build their “reasonings” on false wishful thinking. Baloney! Those tend to love Wilcock too…
    Mr. Farrell, keep up your honest and methodic work. Daring but still carefull. You are one of the best.



  19. Jonathan on September 9, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    @Arend Lammertink:

    That’s a mighty long comment to make when you haven’t read the books.



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  21. Arend Lammertink on September 9, 2009 at 7:54 am

    Dear Joseph,

    I must say I haven’t read your Gizah trilogy, so I certainly miss most of your arguments, but I don’t think the pyramids were (primarily) a weapon.

    I have recently read some of the books of David Wilcock and I have been studying a lot of free energy literature, like some of the work of Bearden and Prof. Meyl. While Wilcock goes very far in his cosmology, he does present very interesting hypothesis about the cosmos and especially the resonance thereof. He also talks about Atlantis c.q. the “lost civilization”:

    “The original source of information for the Western world regarding this lost ancient civilization came from the works of Greek philosopher Plato, who first referred to it in the Timaeus as the island continent “Atlantis.”

    It is widely held that the technological sophistication of Atlantis actually superseded our own, including anti-gravity capability that was used both for devices capable of interstellar travel as well as the levitation of tremendous blocks to build the pyramids and sacred structures seen worldwide.

    Also available to the Atlanteans was a form of technology where extremely high amounts of energy to power all sorts of different devices could be drawn from the very essence of empty space itself – a non-physical energy source that the Greeks referred to as “aether,” which was their word for “shine.” The Greek word “pyramid” actually comes from the word roots “Pyre” and “Amid,” meaning “fire in the middle.”

    This suggests that a harnessing of energy is occurring within such structures. In addition to technology, the Atlanteans were much more aware of the spiritual, intuitive and symbolic side of life, something that modern civilization has become much more divorced from.

    Many different sources indicate that Plato had received the information regarding Atlantis secretly from the existing priesthoods of Egypt, and that he created a great controversy amongst their ranks by actually publicizing it. This one small data point, published in the philosophy texts of the day, could be seen as the first clue in unraveling a very substantial mystery.”

    “The general picture of the time of Atlantis that Hall and other sources paint is of a world quite different than we know it today. Atlantis was one of two main advanced civilizations that co-existed on the Earth at that time, the other being the Rama Empire, which was centered in India. [If the Pacific Ocean-based civilization of “Lemuria” had indeed existed, it appears to have been from an even earlier period and was long-gone by the time of Atlantis and Rama.]

    Documents from the Rama empire still exist today for the public to study, which the Hindus call the Vedas, and in these texts there are many references to highly advanced technology, including elaborate flying machines known as “Vimana” and nuclear weaponry. According to David Hatcher Childress in the book Vimana Aircraft of Ancient India and Atlantis,

    The India of 15,000 years ago is sometimes known as the Rama Empire, a land that was contemporary with Atlantis. A huge wealth of texts still extant in India testify to the extremely advanced civilization that is said by these texts to go back over 26,000 years. Terrible wars and subsequent earth changes destroyed these civilizations, leaving only isolated pockets of civilization.

    It is not surprising for those aware of such research that vast undersea city ruins have now been discovered off the coast of India near Gujarat, which could not have been above water for at least 9000 years.

    Some twelve thousand years ago, most of the Earth’s population was nowhere near at the level of sophistication possessed by the Atlanteans or the Ramas, and like the “clashes of civilizations” of our own era, these two giants ended up going into war with each other.

    Atlantis had just begun a program of indoctrinating lesser-developed cultures with their knowledge when their island continent was destroyed by a combination of warfare and geological cataclysms, which completely submerged their land circa 9600 BC.”

    If one combines this with the idea that there once was a garden of Eden, a paradise, where there was food in abundance, etc. then it is not so far fetched to assume there must have been some climate control system, not made by human hands. Since Prof. Walter Veith shows in some of his (earlier) lectures that there are numerous problems with the evolution theory, it is also not far fetched to conclude that life on earth, and especially DNA, was designed by some intelligence and introduced here on earth.

    If one puts all these together, it may very well be that the pyramids were part of a climate control system, built by said intelligence in order to make sure man and animals had (vegetarian) food in abundance and were able to live in peace. However, something apparantly went wrong, and (Atlantian) man went it’s own way, so at one point said intelligence made an end to the party with some great cataclism, known in varies religions as “the great flood”.



    • Chuck McCorkle on September 21, 2009 at 9:32 pm

      @Arend

      That is really sweet, dude.

      Weather? Please make the time to read these. There’s A LOT of esoteric junk out there and Joseph is going at a very fast pace in the books. Almost too fast and too technical, but the info is there for you to make an informed decision and do your own research.

      You did highlight some good literature. Sometimes I do wish that Joseph would do a little more referencing of all the old texts from various cultures. But that would be an encyclopedia of its own.



      • Dr. Joseph P. Farrell on October 14, 2009 at 4:14 pm

        Hi Mr.McCorkle (and everyone else contributing to this discussion):

        Actually, weather manipulation WOULD be one possibility with this physics. Indeed, as I indicated in Giza Death Star Destroyed, this type of manipulation – weaponized – appears to have been at work in that ancient Cosmic War. And one need not manipulate it destructively. As I indicated in the little article above, by the nature of the physics, one could manipulate it constructively or destructively.

        Anyway, thank you (and thank you to everyone else contributing to this discussion),
        Best wishes,
        Joseph Farrell



      • Chuck McCorkle on October 26, 2009 at 1:00 am

        Your right of course, Dr. Farrell. It’s obvious that among the technologies and capabilities of this type of technology would be an inherent control of the weather if one choses to use it that way.

        My response was all too common. I became angered by someone who thought that the motives were probably benign because they were powerful and therefore wise and merciful. People who have faith, in our government, the Church, and even their fellow human beings annoy me to death because they are the reason that these ideas will never take hold.

        Someone a long time ago realized that if they could get two large armies to fight eachother that they could become more powerful than they ever would be without the threats. Leaders might even conspire (meaning “Breath Together” in Latin) for mutually beneficial purposes. Only their subjects will die, so why not if your smart and ruthless?

        There has been no secret society that has passed this trick down through the ages. It seems like merely a tool for the Intelligent to use against the Gullible.

        So whenever someone has a benign idea for the powerful, I get angry. Perhaps I shouldn’t because it’s not their fault (there ain’t no law against being stupid), but I gave up on people ever realizing any truth in the thousands of murders and political plays which dominate our planet. We watch the news and it reinforces what we want to be true.

        The old saying “He who Benefits” is still the best way to find the culprit, for anything. It’s painfully obvious most of the time, and what’s more painful? Seeing them get away scott free because your neighbor watches FOX News.

        Given up on the mongrel multitudes..

        Chuck



    • Justina on January 12, 2011 at 4:55 pm

      The Rama empire was not that long ago, it was only c. 1000 BC or
      so. the use of mercury caused to spin in a container when
      heated to give flight to a Vimana is information the Germans would
      have got from their oriental researches pre Nazi times, and the
      Nazis of course drew on it. the Bell is a derivative from the idea,
      amped up.

      Flying saucers harassed Alexander the Great’s army, forcing him
      to back off of India except for the western corner now Pakistan.

      This was Rama empire technology at work.



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