THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO “HMMMM…”: RUSSIA TO CREATE ...
This one was shared by many of you, and when I saw the article, I saw why it grabbed your attention, for it certainly grabbed mine when I read it. Russia, it seems, is going ahead with a project to find and store frozen DNA sample of every species of life on Earth, and even that of a few extinct species, a project that they are calling, notably enough, Noah's Ark, and a project mirroring the world "seed bank":
‘Noah's Ark’: Russia to build world first DNA databank of all living things
"Not quite the Biblical Noah’s Ark, but possibly the next best thing. Moscow State University has secured Russia’s largest-ever scientific grant to collect the DNA of every living and extinct creature for the world’s first database of its kind.
“'I call the project ‘Noah’s Ark.’ It will involve the creation of a depository – a databank for the storing of every living thing on Earth, including not only living, but disappearing and extinct organisms. This is the challenge we have set for ourselves,' MSU rector Viktor Sadivnichy told journalists.
"The gigantic ‘ark’, set to be completed by 2018, will be 430 sq km in size, built at one of the university’s central campuses.
“'It will enable us to cryogenically freeze and store various cellular materials, which can then reproduce. It will also contain information systems. Not everything needs to be kept in a petri dish,' Sadivnichy added.
Notably the article goes on to make the connection to the Millennium Seed bank:
“'If it’s realized, this will be a leap in Russian history as the first nation to create an actual Noah’s Ark of sorts,' the rector said.
"Russia is of course not the first to attempt something of this general scale - the quest to preserve biological life forms is one everyone should be engaged in. Britain has done just that with its Frozen Ark project, its venture into preserving all endangered life forms, also the first of its kind. They say it’s 'the animal equivalent of the 'Millennium Seed Bank',' a project that encompasses all of the world's seeds."
In a year that has also witnessed an almost continual succession of stories about the discovery this this or that "earth-like" planet in this or that star system, this news is a bit disconcerting, for it creates the impression - at least in my mind - that "they" are once again up to something, whose true purpose and long-range intentions are not being immediately disclosed, but whose intentions are at least strongly suggested by the comparison to the biblical story of Noah's Ark, but what interests me here is precisely the space context implied by the project, and the geopolitical one as well.
As I speculated in my book The Cosmic War: Interplanetary Warfare, Modern Physics, and Ancient Texts, such a situation might have been in play in ancient times, with an Earth-like life-bearing Mars falling victim to a cosmic catastrophe - one recalls Graham Hancock's chilling observation in The Mars Mystery that when one looks at pictures of Mars, one is looking at a murdered planet - but in prevision of that catastrophe, a literal interplanetary Noah's Ark, full of DNA samples, made its way here. More interesting to me is that, under the weight of Western economic sanctions imposed on Russia for its alleged role in the Ukraine, and with a falling Ruble, that the Russian government is nonetheless willing to undertake such a long-term and expensive project. More importantly, the article is curiously remiss (or perhaps intentionally remiss) in stating just where this facility or facilities is or are to be located, and whether the site or site(s) will be "hardened" or even underground.
We can only speculate on the possible reasons for such a project, and your speculation would be as good as mine... Do "they" know something about the planetary environment they're not telling? Or about the Sun? or is there some potential long-term threat "they" are worried about? Is the "secret space war" that so many suspect is going on upstairs not going quite as well as "they" had hoped?
Who knows? The bottom line is that Russia has decided to proceed with the project in spite of what would seem more pressing and immediate needs and problems, and that should be enough to pique anyone's interest.
See you on the flip side....
(Thanks to Mr. B. for sharing this article!)
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Russia already maintains its own heirloom seed bank and is expanding it as part of the Noah’s Ark project (at a cost of 227 million rubles). It’s located deep in a permafrost cryostorage facility in Siberia and, unlike the Millennium and Svalbard vaults, it doesn’t rely on mechanical power so it’s considered more secure in case of disaster. And it doesn’t rely on support from the likes of Rockefeller or Gates foundations.
Russia’s seed collection has had a precarious history and there’s a Nazi connection. By the early ‘30s Soviet geneticist Nikolai Vavilov had amassed the largest collection of crop seeds from around the world. When the Germans invaded, Nazi botanists seized the collections in Ukraine and Crimea and added them to the Ahnenerbe collection. Part of it ended up in Argentina, along with exiled German scientists. Some was eventually recovered and returned to the Soviet Union. Vavilov died in prison and other scientists guarding the remaining collections starved to death rather than eat the seeds they were guarding.
A thousand years ago or so, they were wondering aloud in Scientific American about what roll topoisomerase played in gene expression… something about it causing RNA to configure certain ways to unlock certain instructions from DNA… something like that… but if we ended up happening, dream though we may be, we’re more ecosystems than discreet creatures and, while DNA might well be a crucial bit, I don’t see how one gets there from here on DNA alone.
Far as I can tell, one might misalign all kinds of life forms in the lab with it, but not start from scratch. The energy should all be directed toward enhancing the living of life in all its forms and maybe even making new places for it to thrive, NOT dasting to presume we can create it in the lab or alter it to our dimly thought out ends or running around like crazed bags of hubris so tremendous we only ever manage to make it worse….
role
I came to the same conclusion as Elm, via the exact same way. Knowledge of dna is very ancient, a simple inquiry into dna transcription and a look at royal stone etchings in egypt is proof positive…even the name madonna is code for mitochondria dna.Ma ri is translated as sun pyramid. ka is soul or life energy…marika…A is big or pregnant.
…somebody messed around with human dna code a long time ago….they are still messing around with code. The Union, and the union of the united (altered) states, has been and always was a “penal” colony…that info came to me in the unusual manner of Elm street, and “they” were after gold. Which is odd, in that it can be created, so it must be important only as a vehicle of inducement into slavery by the inferior results of the tampering….just a speculation or a stab into the darkness mind you.
This also sounds like Russia hinting very obliquely to the West – “You want a nuclear war? We take the threat seriously and are saying so by taking measures like this.” It is tantamount to saying “we are preparing.” It is a mild counter-bluff, and then of course it would demonstrate also that in Russia despite the undermining of the ruble, Russia intends to still keep functioning as a scientific/industrial power on many fronts.
It is also a message to the the wider world to the effect that nuclear war is so devastating that it could wipe out most of the life on earth, so we better start and ARK. It’s really both a clever and moral way to bring attention to the utter recklessness of the USSA right now.
Does this mean us peons have 3 or 4 more years, (2018) before the big catastrophe hits. Doesn’t sound too good for us but we can be sure the elites have already bought their tickets to a different galaxy or universe. On our dime no less. No wonder they don’t care about how bad our earth has become, they always knew they were leaving. Popping in and out long enough to set up their NWO.
Sorry, don’t know where else to post this but it does look interesting: http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/2014/12/23/historic-speech-in-damascus-sends-shockwaves-around-the-world/
In this world, patent laws are some of the most powerful & pervasive of all laws, in that they lay claims to ownership & control to an exclusion of all others, except approved licensees. Patent laws have gone far beyond their first blush of ensuring enough time, for a recouping of one’s original investment to bring an idea to market, or Letters Patent issued by the British Crown to fund “Royal” ventures.
This Russian move could be a counter move in the war for control and ownership of DNA and life itself, as the alleged patented, scientific and intellectual “property,” of Corporations and governments. We have already seen claims of ownership to DNA, asserted as a legal premise for a requirement to obtain permission, and also as a basis for an extraction of patent royalties, i.e., user “fees.”
On another level, this is a war between man and God — that God — the Prime Mover and Master Conceptualizer of all things, retains a prior, timeless, infinite and superior claim to an ownership of HIS “intellectual property,” and it is He who determines the terms & nature of its service. But of course, the Roman Church has inserted itself as a claimant to the Creator’s property, as the “secretary” to God’s estate as it were. But then, God requires no secretary, as He can speak, and does continuously speak, for Himself.
An intelligent move on a number of levels besides being one of the greatest
investments that could be made in what is an act of global leadership. Look there is a certain race to do things now, before much is missing.
The notion of an Ark has many implications including that of a space program capable of taking on interstellar exploration of the forced, lifeboat, no turning back kind.
This is the first act towards what would be a series of replication efforts. First one needs to have biological autonomy and full strategic capabilities which are underscored beyond facile currencies of a certain bankrupt digititis.
I think we can safely assume this has all happened a long time ago; as every whistle blower has always stated (paraphrase): the minute a new technology is announced or finally introduced into the public domain it’s already been there for at least 40-50 yrs; are we to blindly assume Russia is no different?
Larry
All their expenses will be in roubles and that means this project just got a lot cheaper.
Simple explanation is that they have to create some work and jobs so it might as well be something useful and proof that “prior artwork” exists before Monsatano patents ordinary plants (they gave up on their first attempt at tomatoes but they’ll be back).
More oxygen deprived would be that they know they will be locked out of “world seed bank” and are covering their assets. The break with the west will go a lot further and deeper than the west thought.
Could It Be A “Smoke Signal” …. A Public Message To Someone That “We Know What You’re Up To My NAZI Friends!” … ???
It’s a if Russia doesn’t have anything else to worry about. A DNA bank, WTF, I just don’t get it…..WHY?????
Unless the Russians are privy to some info which has caused this “knee jerk” plan, then rightly so, we are not being told the truth, where have I heard that before, the never ending game.
I hope the Ruskies aren’t the only ones that have had the foresight to do this. My guess is, the US has probably done the same. But, it’s in private hands.. Just gives you a warm fuzzy doesn’t it? Where the “Evil Empire” (RR quote) is behaving in a very civilized and responsible manner. However, in the US, it appears the parents are gone and the teenagers have the car keys and the liquor store credit card.
And a gun they’re going to use to rob every liquor store in town
The two other projects referenced in this piece are based in the UK.
I just keep remembering the guy who warned Rappoport back in the 80s that very much would be made of DNA by the scientific community, but it would all be bunk… something thought up to keep grant money raining down on them and our imaginations feverishly churning… something to keep us busy while reality goes right on playing out behind our backs….
Nines, can you elaborate on this? Do you possibly have a link? I’ve never heard this one, and I can’t find anything on it in my searches. This is intriguing.
I’m traveling and fried, so maybe it’ll come to me in the middle of the night, but I think I remember Jon talking about it on a video a few years ago. You could search YouBube for Jon Rappoport videos… or go to his site… No More Fake News and search “DNA”… I vividly remember only that he said someone who should know told him this. Jon’s a pretty nice guy, and would probably answer you if you just piped up and asked him.
nines:
Likely the idea that DNA is the totality of life is mostly bunk.
There’s clearly a lot more going on. There are huge holes in the physics that would ostensibly govern the chemistry of DNA.
DNA may have limited use in the way measuring the corners of a room can tell you a room’s volumetric capacity. Doesn’t say what’s in the room. Or what holds the room together, or if the walls of the room can’t quickly be moved or opened or even what the walls are made of.
Then there’s Rife, and Reich and well even Ehrenhaft.
Also most of what is cellular biology takes place in a wet environment. While most of what passes for bio science is after the fact measurements of dried out things.
Bet smart Russians know all this too.
Yep. I think that’s about the size of it… including that the Russians know it.
nines:
Sure looks like genes aren’t understood and govern far less than is accepted, no matter how many scientists bend over backward in reaction to this study, saying “well physical activities were greater if you grew up before 1940″–that’s a reach.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/01/science/gene-linked-to-obesity-hasnt-always-been-a-problem-study-finds.html
You know what else changed after the 1940s, there was a massive increase in the size of the chemical industry; the use of agricultural chemicals, particularly in the US, vastly increased.
Ha! Now you’ve stumbled upon my stock reply to those asking or griping about the obesity epidemic. Ready?
“Better living through chemistry.” THAT so totally and so obviously is what did it. I recognized it as a little kid. The more plastic diet food my mother and sister ate, the fatter they got. No calories. So obviously calories are NOT the problem. No fat. Nix that bright idea. The more chemicals one eats the fatter they get. Some are affected less and some more, but over all and especially if they keep it up, it nails them.
And sugar. Anything sweet, plastic or natural. And they are putting plastic natural sugar in just about everything sold at American grocery stores. High fructose corn syrup. Lethal ooze. Epidemic of Type II Diabetes, foot amputations, blindness, all kinds of miseries because people keep shoveling in the toxins and the sugarier the “better”.
Before that it was almost exclusively wealthy gluttons who got fat, where the expression “fat” came to mean rich people, and people who were not rich ate bacon and eggs for breakfast, steak and potatoes for dinner, big old pastrami sandwich and potato salad for lunch…. Slim. Fit. Healthy. High life expectancy. Cancer and diabetes were rare.
Statisticians are coming up with more and more to say about epigenetics… outside things that switch genes on and off or make marked changes in gene pools…. We’re NOT biological robots, and idiots tampering with chromosomes can’t fix us like broken radios.
It’s just thrust into our consciousness a million times a day until we just stop thinking and take it for granted they’re doing something worthwhile.
I’m too tired. I’m blathering now.
n:
Okay but corn syrup was only added to food starting in the later 1980s. (No one knew how to make it cheaply in quantity before the 1980s.)
The point is the big change in 1945, in the US.
Basically, constructing a warehouse to store DNA, is akin to building a warehouse to store old TV antennas. Whether DNA OR TV antennas can be useful, however, depends upon what’s being broadcasted or if even if the broadcast continues. But then, beyond time/space, there is no “continues,” there just is.
Bruce Lipton shares pertinent insights with readers in his book THE BIOLOGY OF BELIEF, specifically in reference to the membrane of the human cell, “… I was drawn to the conclusion we are immortal, spiritual beings who exist separately from our bodies. I had heard an undeniable inner voice informing me that I was leading a life based not on the false premise that genes control biology but also on the false premise that we end when our bodies die. I had spent years studying molecular control systems within the physical body and at that astounding moment came to realize that the protein “switches” (integral membrane proteins) that control (and define) life are primarily turned on and off by signals from the environment . . . the universe (or Source Field).”
In other words, what Lipton is telling us is, DNA and the cell is not the determining factor for an expression of life, that, “each cell’s unique set of identity receptors are located on the cell’s outer membrane surface, where they act as “antennas,” downloading complimentary environmental signals. These identity receptors read a signal of (only one) “self,” which does not exist within the cell but comes to it from an external environment (a projection of a singular aspect, or spark from the Unity). Consider the human body as a television set (or a photo impression). You are the image on the screen (or in the photo). But your image did not come from inside the television. Your identity is an environmental broadcast that was received via antenna. One day you turn on the TV and the picture tube has blown out (or the photo was burned). Your first reaction would be, “Oh #*$?!! The television is dead (or the photo has been destroyed).” But,” asks Lipton, “did the image (spirit or light in the body) die along with the television set (or with the destruction of the photo)?”
The point being, whatever manifests in physical form upon the earth plain to physical sight — be it the DNA of any thing or the image on a TV screen, it must be externally sustained and expressed into form, by a signal external to man’s ability to control and define it. Call “It” the unlimited and eternal potential and capacity of the Divine Mind, Prime Mover or Master Conceptualizer. It is in this sense, man, in his higher state, is created in the Image of his Maker. So, we may store as much DNA as we wish, but whether the signal for its animation & replication will continue, still remains to be seen. But as usual, there is some knowledge in any quest, and if staying busy is one’s goal, then this foots the bill.
Unlikely that the cell membrane exists.
This whole receptor on the membrane meme is a big of distraction–sort of like DNA being the totality of life.
Think ball of wet jello.
Rather than a “ball of wet jello,” you have left one thinking, why anyone would make such a flippant & foolish remark? That DNA should have been found to be less than the defining moment of life, in no way should suggest an absence of the cell membrane.
E:
The point is that like DNA, the cell membrane is a very limited concept, and in the case of the membrane basically doesn’t exist. (Right dried out dying skin cells would have something akin to a membrane.)
Cells are not liquid filled balloons.
Sorry ball of gelatinous goo (when alive and thriving) is perfectly apt.
I wonder about these DNA storage facilities. Assuming a nuclear war or another event which destroys enough of the planet’s species including the human being, who is going to use this material in order to repopulate? What will be left of any technology and skill sets that will enable this? I just wonder about this. Dark ages occurred in the past when the breakdown of civilization and technological skills were lost.
By the way did you read some of the comments on website below this article Joseph very interesting. Here goes What Do the Russians Know and When did They Know It. Also do they have all the equipment and propulsion systems needed to bug out of the solar system ready to go. I hope they have DNA samples of indigenous people too saving them as well as the flora and fauna.
Well there seem to be quite a few things left unsaid. Spending a paltry USD 200 mln… for a mammoth facility measuring “430 sq km”? A patently excessive size if DNA in the narrow sense is involved. So what other implications might there be in the expression “cellular material”?
And are we to believe that Russia does not already have an advanced “DNA bank”?
Like so many recent announcements in science and technology, there is a conversation here going on above our heads.