NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM MARCH 29, 2012
March 29, 2012 / /
Joseph comments on the following article from The Daily Bell:
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Reminds me of G’Kar from babylon 5. When asked ‘What is truth, and what is God?” He replied reluctantly with this beautiful answer:
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjnpTcvGvts&w=560&h=315%5D
G’Kar has the following to say about god:
G’Kar (from previous question):
…and as a result, we spend too much time trying to be serious. As if that proved we were more enlightened; better than everyone else! But, we can’t be free until we learn to laugh at ourselves. Once you look in the mirror and see just how foolish we can be, laughter is inevetable, and from laughter comes wisdom.
Question from audience:
What is truth and what is God?
G’Kar’s answer:
You don’t really want an answer to that question.
Audience response:
Yes I do, please.
G’Kar:
If I take a lamp and shine it toward the wall, a bright spot will appear on the wall. The lamp is our search for truth, for understanding.
Too often we assume that the light on the wall is god. But, the light is not the goal of the search. It is the result of the search. The more intense the search, the brigher the light on the wall. The brighter the light on the wall, the greater the sense of revelation upon seeing it.
Similarly, someone who does not search, who does not bring a lantern with him, sees nothing.
What we percieve as god is the biproduct of our search for god. It may simply be an appreation of the light, pure and unblemished, not understanding that it comes from us.
Sometimes we stand in front of the light and assume that we are the center of the universe. God looks astonishingly like we do. Or we turn to look at our shadow, and assume that all is darkness.
If we allow ourselves to get in the way, we defeat the purpose, which is to use the light of our search to illumaninte the wall in all its beauty, and in all its flaws, and in so doing, better understand the world around us.
Audience response:
Ah yes, but — what is truth, and what is god?
G’Kar:
[laughs and sighs of frustration]
Truth is a river. [gasps from audience]
Audience response:
And what is god?
G’Kar (giving up out of frustration):
god is the mouth of the river. [more gasps of understanding from audience]
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Can you imagine John Lennon maybe?
If you believe it in your heart and can see it in your mind! Speak to your mountain and let it be raised up and cast into the sea! Do you get the picture? Ya know them pyramids and Megalithic stones and structures!? This is only an unction at this point but I believe they are there to be put into orbit or position around the earth like satilites or shields or deflectors. In the event or case of this possible coronal mass ejection! Far fetched! Right now just my 2cents
Yes I am a prophet but it is a different time now and going to take more than one of me both to see and to complete it. To think about doing a huge task like this! And we know Jesus spent some time down in Egypt but as far as information goes there isn’t much if anything written. So this is going to be or take some seriously new type of creative revelation! I do know they the stones were levitated into place using sound like worship and some very imaginative spiritual connected people! Maybe by them large cranium or elongated skull type people in the distant past..
But also there may be an invisible wall sort of like spiritual energy field or force shield! Like I would imagine going on by the 12 and the 120 in the upper room in comparison to the tower of babble in the old Testament. The difference was on one hand a visible wall or tower or structure in the old T and an invisible wall but much more powerful in the new! Through hearing from God as Jesus said was the “rock or stone or building blocks” of his church. Sort of like a stairway to heaven only we have to come together in agreement and worship to think and or imagine this spiritual shield into place in one accord. I imagine in various critical places all around the country.
Ya know I sometimes sort of wish old Brother Nick Tesla was still around cuz I think some of his idea’s were divinely inspired as well! If I am not mistaken he was a PK or preachers kid at one time as well
And who’s kid was he at another time?
Anybody feel overwhelmed yet! Through the spirit I have been shown such a different church! Where this thing we call the bible is actually supposed to be locked up! Can you imagine that? I know you that are scholarly would think I should be locked up for even making a statement like that!
But the truth is do we not ware and have corruption and evil of almost every kind imaginable! And you can put that against the lack of spiritual people all over the world! And in fact the failure of these bible churches and their leaders and cronnies falling do to every kind of sin imaginable as well.
We should all have unlimited spiritual power by this time so where is it? Instead of peace we have arguments pioty and pettiness that is born out of reading without the spirits guidance or permission to even open the book! Seek Ye first some instruction from God before you even crack the book!
Instead of self less people fasting and prayer and waiting to here from God! We have SELFISH people opening it up any time they get a whim to read what ever they damn well please!
So instead of being empower through hearing directly from God through the Holy Spirit we have what we have today. Which is nothing and little or no power and all this corruption is running rampant all over the world and now as well in our very own country.
Since the invention of the printing press oh boy Joseph a litteral pandora’s box has been opened! Oh ya Joseph so this is what we have and this number “666” means carnal carnal carnal! We threw the baby out with the bible and the baptismal bath water!
Can you picture this in your freaken intellectual heads or imagine it for a moment 66 books in the bible and a Carnal man or woman whose number is “6” from the book of Genesis. You see a spiritual person would never have to do this! And you hold it in your hands and read from it to try to get its information into your heads!
So who has this mark how about every so called christian or preacher in America?? And around the world you see the spirit covers more then just me as in how far can you see Abraham? And it moves with us where ever we walk or go depending on how much fasting and prayer and word or revelation as in Dreams and visions we have received! Through this valley of the shadow of death type walk or experience we are on!
Feel like you missed the boat? Well maybe not just yet if you can find a church to go where you sense the presence of God? Best chance is maybe in the back of the church out of sight and out of mind! There is still a chance and I will welcome you with open arms if you choose to give it a try! You don’t have to ask me or wait for some dumb ass preacher to do an alter call that they don’t know how to do anyway! Just close your eyes when you sense his presence and repent unto Jesus three times or however many times it takes for you to receive him.For the Spirit and the Lord say come! This may be during praise and worship or any time during a service! Learn the lords prayer and start fasting when ever you can keep track of the days or meals fasted.
In fact I say you don’t need anybody’s help once you have the spirit! They really just want your money when they should instead give you the money to keep you seeking God for as long as possible. No No they know better they say right Joseph!? Believe me if you ever worship with me his power and presence is going to blow your over bible educated mind! And that is a fact JACK as also the children and the bride say Come! Believe when I tell you when I am under the share power anointing when I say come guess who shows up in a Mi8ghty Mighty big way!
If you saw me on the street I might be inconsequential which is in fact part of the reason I can be so powerful all these idiots got to have center stage to try to be famous. I say just get me in the building and let me worship my way and then ask who’s god is bigger?
This was disconcerting to say the least.
That church you’re talking about that locked up the bible
and simply moved by [some] spirit was the dark ages
[into the middle ages] catholic ‘church’ and the pope
ruled, as moved by [a] spirit, of course, to torture
people that were much better / gooder than he was.
Isn’t it always the way ?
So you are a —————-what ?
But then, isn’t everybody ?
Come back, James. Come back
Well, there is a list of disinfowarriers on the web, and you have it here,
http://letsrollforums.com/suspect-disinformation-agents-gatekeepers-t22035.html?s=90bfb0014fcdfba8f954c90cb30c1806&
I remember, last summer, listening to dutchsinse, on a talkradioprogram, about his YT-channel. He told us that he experienced a lot of hars commentaries after publishing his 10 minutes videos. And he asked his audience, I would guess he had ca 5.000 followers, who are those people? What they found out, most of the postings were comming from companies that were working for the 16 or 18 agencies.
I have experinced the same, after putting up a comment on NP-blogs, with my common nickname, five to ten minutes after, there were up hars comments. BTW, about the global warming scam. After a while I concluded that there are industries, not single lunatics, that are producing the comments. Because of the pattern and the content.
I will guess that this pattern is a world wide phenomen.
When you look at the above webside, you can speculate, consider, the compilation of all those referncies, it is a hell a lot of work.
Hello Dag, Quite a list of disinfo info.lol
I always stay away from people who bash masons(yes I’m a dreaded 32 degree Scottish Rite and York Rite Mason as well as a former Templar-England/Wales/Texas- and proud of it), Jews, Zionists, Jesuits, and so on. There are sinister people in all groups, institutions and other organizations, and there may be a evil secret society that bases some of its rituals on freemasonry, who knows. I like to do my own research and draw my own conclusions in an objective manner and would hope others would do the same. I grew up in an area that didn’t like catholics or Jews and happen to have some relatives who were both so I’ve felt discrimination- but nothing like Blacks have felt- and ignorance can be one of our worst enemies. Anyway, thanks for the info and I hope everything is going great for you in Norway!
Yes, it is quite a list !
It just goes to show you that the INSANE, ELITE
absolute NUTCASES seemed to plan their own
demise.
I just wish they would stop trying to take me along !
I feel this list you provided could be a valuable resource for those seeking truth. One statement stood out in my quick read of this listing/evaluation. It was, “They tend to polarize ‘discussions’ towards just two (flawed) viewpoints, while there are often several more viewpoints that could be taken into account.” I try always to be aware of those who try to frame an either/or choice, when many other choices are to be considered. We Americans are accustomed to making either/or choices and don’t even question this subtle ploy by others at directing and thus controling considerations and conclusions. Thanks again for this resource…I have marked it for future reference.
What a confusing time to live in. 🙁
Oh, it’s the best !
Yes…Agreed…I am skeptical.
I remain confused. The Daily Bell comes from a Libertarian view, and after reading Ayn Rand I think is just the worst world view one could have if you believe in community and love for each other. I must say I like SOME of their articles, but trying to find second sources that are “reliable” seems a fool’s errand. NO source is “reliable”, even though you might have your favorites. So in an age where ALL information and viewpoints are available we end up being suspicious of all of them. Maybe we’re finding out that “truth” is much more elusive than we ever suspected. As YHWH says, TRUTH must have an enemy. So is it ever possible to KNOW?
You must understand that Ayn Rand was a minarchist. In contrast, The Daily Bell is anarchist. The philosophical and moral difference between minarchism and anarchism is like night and day. They are as different as Yawehism and Gnosticism.
You’re certainly correct. Truth is elusive. I’ll paraphrase the philosopher Dr. Peter Kingsley: Truth is like a wild and violent stream that has to be bravely harnessed and renewed each day. It has to be reached out and caught continuously. Violence as in crimes against man are often the result of when we hold onto fixed ideas and that ‘stream’ becomes blocked.
As Dr. Farrell told me one time as I was struggling to understand what truth was he said, “Truth is a Journey, not a Port.”
I think those are things that one can live by and live in harmony with one’s neighbor. It’s living the ‘examined life’ of Socrates.
Ah but ‘truth without lies’ is the last port of one journey
where another must begin …………..
And Joseph, a planet was indeed blown up many, many moons ago.
But not in a cosmic war.
It was blown up to form the solar system we now know…
by ExtraTemporals.
Oh yes !
What a journey beginning for those who are learning how to FLIP !
I agree with your point.
In fact, I would say that no matter how much you trust any website (or person, for that matter), it is always possible that tomorrow that source will be co-opted (or “turned”) by someone, even legitimately such as through purchase. A perfectly honest source today, could either be completely controlled by some evil power tomorrow, or simply fed misinfo.
And I suspect that it will not be long, if it has not happened already, that the fake websites will become very well “documented.” The footnotes may not even reference real books or articles (or if real, have nothing to do with the quote), but how many Americans will actually check out even one reference? I doubt that even .01% of all Americans would check even one reference per year while they surf the internet.
Consider the famous quote:
“You can fool all of the people some of the time, and you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.”
I would hazard a guess that the game plan has been. for a very long time, to fool MOST of the people MOST of the time.
They don’t need 100% success. It’s a numbers game, and as far as I can see, they have a winning strategy for a long time to come.
Valuable words of wisdom. I must say, I have been a fan for the very reason that you are not dogmatic in your assumptions. You display an ample and measured amount of humility in your demeanor.
One word has been a guiding force in my journey in this mine field of disinformation. That word is DISCERNMENT “…is a term used to describe the activity of determining the value and quality of a certain subject or event.” We must develop it.
Love the ponytail.
I like it, too.
My boyfriend wore one.
Like everyone else I cared for on a personal level,
he got torn from me.
But for my stranger-than-fiction
CREATIVE IMAGINATION
from where all good things come,
I would have long lost hope !
http://www.smh.com.au/national/assange-the-senator-would-champion-free-media-20120326-1vuph.html
“Mr Assange was sharply critical of the federal government and the opposition, saying there was “very little difference between Liberal and Labor, especially once they get into government. Labor suffers more from cronyism, while the Liberals care more for big business”.
You may be very right Joseph. Assange has the ability to ‘represent’ the ‘missing ingredient’ in Australian politics which the voters are seeking; a THIRD OPTION. He would sit well with a voting public that has become increasingly volatile due the apparent ‘centring’ of Australian politics (a phenomenon we see in other Western nations at present).
“While support for WikiLeaks is strongest among Greens voters, Mr Assange said recent polling had shown strong support – 53 per cent approval for WikiLeaks – across the political spectrum. He emphasised that he needed “to be sure my deeply held values and beliefs could be accommodated” in any relationship with a party.”
An open Government with left wing social policies and right wing foreign and domestic defence policies, we have had various attempts at this recently. He is too convenient. If he actually gained any momentum, he would become an icon for the ‘Synthesis’ government. We have had various political ‘celebrities’ who have attempted similar kinds of movements, all have failed due some left or right element in their ideology that has been disagreeable to the majority.
Could Assange give the left and right what they want without upsetting the extremes? If he could, he would represent the most popular, and dangerous (to those opposed to the hidden elites) political element in this country. I wonder if this is an ‘experiment’ to see if ‘they’ are getting close to the right ingredients for controlling a post-internet society?
History is rhyming with internet/gutenberg parallels. The question is can the people get ahead of the elites engineered power curves to fashion and generate their own diection of ‘times flow’. In “The World That Never Was: A True Story of Dreamers, Schemers, Anarchists, and Secret Agents by Alex Butterworth we find the power elites not only generating counterrevolutionaries againt the elites(themselves) but penetrating all kinds of organizations with their own agents; turning boba fide members into snitches with silver, bullets, & blackmail, ect.; turning investigative organizations leadership on their respective axis/heads; and other information control maneuvers/measures. These times the inflitration happens basically the same way. Assume all sites being infiltrated, some being actually intiated to draw memberss in opposed the an elitist agenda. There is an atmosphere of mirrors & illusions throughout, so that even those within are not privy to the man or woman next to them being, ulimately, at the top of the puppet’s strings: ‘controlled’. Therefore, it is the individual revolution that ultimately says, one by one, to choose or not to choose. The leaders will, in the end , ideally have to deal with individuals of their own minds, seeking hard answers to hard questions. Assuming deception not blind obediance, thinking not believing.
When the soldier is ordered by the Generals, that soldier’s/officier’s own mind, the elite’s realize, is the weak link in the kill chain
These 2012 memes are replete throughout the infosphere, and with the holographic and mind controlling tools in play, I wouldn’t assume Aladdin’s Lamp is corked-up for the well-being of mankind.
They will do as they are told like they always have done throughout history when ordered to fire on and burn down the homes of their own countrymen. The military breaks you and then conditions you to follow orders no matter what; sleep depredation, bullying and everyother mindcontrol tactic perfected over thousands of years to get soldiers to go against their own conscience and neighbors will see to that. The police for the most part love their growing power and surveilance and ability to be unaccountable to the restrictions of the constitutiion. They will regret it when they are retired and witness their own children and grandchildren suffer unfairly physical and morally corrupt abuse from the lack of legal protection and humanitarian respect the abandoning of the Bill of Rights will usher in. They will regret looking the other way on governmental corruption and eugenics programs when their grandchildren and grandchildren playmates become infertile and get cancers out the yin yang. I foresee a time when the elite will have such a tight grip on us with surveilance technologies and commit such great transgressions against us and our children that society will destroy their own infrastructure and cities just to escape the unbareable hell and controls that will be foisted upon us. I hope when it comes to that point we learn from the mistake we made with the Aristocratic familes of old and give them no quarter or chance to use their wealth against future generations.
Mostly I agree with you in your wanting justice and giving them no quarter, and the infrastructure is also key. But I’am afraid it goes extremely deep. So deep that it’s not onlt in our DNA it’s embedded into time herself. It’s going to take a real Houdini move to unwind this sinister & twisted gordian knot.
As Ollie continually finds himself saying,
“Well, here’s another fine mess you’ve gotten me into!”
P.S. Don’t show everyone that you take off your cowtoy hat at the end of a video. Did Roy Rogers? Or Woody Web? rofl
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Oh, Joseph !
You really don’t see anything “apocalyptic” (?)
[Maybe you don’t see it because it’s everywhere ! ]
Do you really want the end of the world ?
The word has NOTHING ro do with that.
How about the end of evil ?
It will always be around, you say (?)
Evil is the only thing that is truly impossible, as it
cannot sustain itself…………………
and who will sustain it ?
It HAD a purpose………..to prove out good.
I think that has been accomplished, although even the wide road
is getting more and more crowded.
It would seem that the Alite might get their wish as far as population
numbers are concerned.
Too bad they won’t be among the celebrants.
If you are going to “flip” Joseph,
start practicing your somersaults !