NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM JULY 21 2016
July 21, 2016 / /
Speculations about the Turkish coup attampt are ongoing, amid a continued "shut down" of the USA's Incirlik airbase in southern Turkey, a purge now extending into the thousands, and revelations that Russia may have warned Erdogan's government of an impending coup: fuel for high octane speculations:
Hours Before Military Coup Attempt, Turkey Warned by Russia – Reports
http://www.trunews.com/article/Is-Incirlik-Air-Base-being-held-hostage-by-Turkey
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A version of this was posted on the YT. This is a repost.
Members of the US Administration with ties to Iran might have tipped off Iran concerning what was being planned. However, if this info were shared by Iran with Russia I think Russia would have its own means of corroboration and would not take part as a middleman unless there was absolute certainty derived from multiple points of verification concerning what was afoot.
We all know the Middle East is a powder keg and one misstep could land the globe in WW3.
I probably sound like a broken record. However, I can’t shake the fact that Special Access Program (SAP) information was found on HRC’s private server. This is ABOVE TOP SECRET classification, and has no doubt provided exceedingly useful data to the Russians and all governments who hacked her server.
Remember her server security was found by the FBI to be LESS than Google gmail security. That’s bad.
Re the SAP info – When questioned by Congress the Inspector General refused to name the agency that had supplied the SAP that ended up on Clinton’s server. When by (records keeping) law the name of an Agency HRC compromised could not be provided in Open Session to Congress I think the likely agency is the CIA.
SOME ON-GOING CIA OPS ARE LONG IN THE PLANNING
1- Clinton had access from 2009 to 2013. It’s now 2016. If the Russians got the names of US spies and/or data concerning operations in the Middle East (and elsewhere) from her server they have had 3 years to track down that individual/program and – more importantly – to infiltrate.
2- Clinton jeopardized United States national security with tacit
permission from POTUS Obama and every government official, including the United States Congress, who received emails from her for 4 years and didn’t question what security measures were in place for correspondence shared both to and from the Secretary of State.
If these security measures were lacking – and they WERE – HRC should have been ordered to use State Dept systems for State Dept business by the Administration. That, of course, never happened.
3- There is now one documented instance of HRC telling the truth. She said she set up the server “for convenience.” It was indeed convenient for the Clinton Foundation to have instant access to saleable American assets and secrets, and in turn, offer these to the highest donor, country be damned.
The criminal ties between this dirty money-laundering international criminal enterprise, DNC Super Delegates, members of Congress on both sides of the aisle, the federal judiciary and Executive Branch are likely known in INDICTABLE detail by the Russians.
Not a good place to be if when running for POTUS.
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by who on yt. got a link. it’s a good progression and obvious in its nature. also obvious who the next potus is barring a false flag that let’s obama pull an hollande with a permanent emergency. given the nature of the rest of the world as it comes under putin’s influence (and apparently protection), the places where putin’s influence is the least are probably the places false flagged and attacked the most. eventually (or not so eventually) that place becomes the ussa.
Anyone care to place bets on whether or not the US base commander in Turkey has ordered the disarmament or removal of key components from those nuclear weapons? Granted the cores cannot be disabled or destroyed, but they can be rendered useless in short order, if need be, and incapable of immediate use. So if Erdogan believes he may be getting some useful weaponry cheap, he is mistaken. Any move he makes toward the capture of those weapons would be a very bad mistake on his part.
Time will tell if this is a viable method of ridding ones self of an unwanted military base within ones country. It’s an interesting idea and a novel approach to the problem. I would think that many other nations are watching this closely as a proof of concept.
You make a great point. However, it depends on who’s behind the coup. If it is a very powerful rogue faction within the CIA they may simply want them turned over to Ergodan. They need a war desperately to hide the impending economic collapse.
If Turkey gets the nukes it simplifies Iran’s path to building nuclear weapons as their deterrent. And so it goes.
Any war that goes nuclear will soon see the entire world involved. Once the missiles start flying, it will place everyone on alert and it may soon get entirely out of hand and go global. No one truly wins a nuclear war; anyone believing otherwise is lacking mental capacity. Turning these weapons over to Erdogan, even in a disabled state would be a huge mistake.
Gobs of great background material on Gulan:
Emigre Super Bloc: The Failed Turkish Coup – An Exploded View
by GH Eliason
7-21-16
Is Fethullah Gulen the feeble, kindly imam that mainstream media is making him out to be? Hardly. What this article will show is that Gulen is instead a career ultra-nationalist bent on carving up the Middle East and Asia. Gulen is on a mission to destroy Russia and China by cutting out territory that contains Turkic peoples from both nations.
Important to understand is Gulen is at work creating a Turkic Islamic World Order inside the countries his schools, people, and businesses reside in.
How did Fethullah Gulen become so powerful in Turkey? In brief I’ll describe his rise for what it is; Erdogan’s self-inflicted wound, that without his own best effort and direct early support could never have happened. It will also show why Erdogan’s purges are going so deep and broad inside all of Turkey’s power structures. What do his people consider Gulen? He is a prophet. -Fethullah Gülen’s Grand Ambition Turkey’s Islamist Danger by Rachel Sharon-Krespin Middle East Quarterly Winter 2009, pp. 55-66
This is a step down from being God. With a whisper, a prophet releases the Word of God to creative or destructive purpose. To his people, this is Fethullah Gulen.
Ankara has accused Gulen of setting up a counter government. I’ll show the proofs that within the United States, Gulen has in fact set up a political organization that is only a step down from a full blown government in exile. It is complete with diplomatic ties to other like minded countries.
http://thesaker.is/emigre-super-bloc-the-failed-turkish-coup-an-exploded-view/?inmoderation
Why does this sound eerily similar to the build-up of tension between the Shah of Iran (Pahlavi) and the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini? Perhaps, the PTB have incorporated this form of ‘revolution’ into their playbook. If so, ferreting-out Gulen’s handlers and money-trail becomes all important…
where is all that money coming from. thought i heard somewhere (probably corbett) that gulen owns the largest chain of charter schools in ussa? who’s creature is he – as in which oligarch in ussa owns him?
ZDB, remember that there will be a chain of handlers, not just well-known oligarchs. Just like Mossad is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Roths, someone a few levels up will be the spider twitching the web around Gulen for their own purposes…
This description of Gulen’s agenda fits seamlessly that of the Gray Wolves. My problem is that Erdogan has been enjoying vast support coming from Gray Wolves.
Which version of Gulen to trust, and more importantly why?
The mere fact that it appears that Russia has forgiven Turkey for the shooting down of the Russian SU – 24, is an indication that Erdogan may have “turned the corner” regarding who he considers a “FRIEND”.
Even though he appears to be sacking just about everybody in Turkey, he isn’t THAT stupid, and in the next few weeks he might show his true colors. Turkey is such an important country to both the US and NATO that the stakes are “REALLY” high here, that one false move could tip the balance.
I would leave the EU out of this, they probably just care about the financial side to this malarkey, and Erdogan knows it. So I’m betting that Turkey won’t do anything soon, BUT, if Turkey gets another gladio style mass shooting, then it’s curtains for the west, and a certain air base.
The real thing that wouldn’t say it name is what is going through the minds of the indigenous people of the World. As the toadies-sycophants of Yahweh-Allah tear each other apart over who will be master of the world. What is that old curse Beware Of What You Wish For You Might Not Like It When You Get It. Long Live the Dark Ages if this is the price that must be paid to rid the World of the CSA garrison bases I hope i’s worth it. What the Olympic Committee did to Russia athletics was the last straw that led to Russia informing the Turkish government about this coup.
Marcos,
How Ironic that the Olympics has gone so low in their political pettiness. The Spirit of Olympic completion is bein being stepped on; just as the humanity that spirit supposedly showcases. Another sad example of not only poor leadership, but of the sinister inhumanity that it continually manifests, and festers in.
Olympic Competition…
For those that read this a later date, the above was placed in moderation. Seems that competition was to just too, 2 much to handle.
However, completion get ink.
Whereas, competition?
I think it can safely be assumed that Gulen Org (Gehlen Org? :-)) is somehow involved. The extremist Mullah Gulen has been labeled a moderate by the US, a clear indication of their association. Remember these pesky moderate Jihadists in Syria that Russia was not supposed to fight?
It was Gulen that opened 450 odd Madrasas and Mosques in Central Asia, not Erdogan.
I find Erdogans fierce and radical removal of people across a variety of institutions unsurprising in the circumstances as this is a major cleanup opportunity as well as a prevention against a better organised coup attempt down the line.
Furthermore, the officers behind the coup attempt are not stupid and knew well they couldn’t do this without backing from some allies. So the question is; who gave the “thumbs up” prior to the coup? the CIA, the Pentagram, State dept or Nato? Or informal networks with them?
I am not in any way an Erdogan supporter,on the contrary. I’m just trying to understand the “Real-Politik” of this very interesting situation.
I think all this raises the question, what antiquities might reside inside Turkey that the perpetrators desire to get their hands on? Did something uncovered in Syria point the PtB toward Turkey? Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Syria and then Turkey, The Great Babylonian Treasure Hunt continues.
I Think Sibelle Edmonds insight is valuable but I pray for your scenario ending and a tool to get rid of those Uncle Sams yahoo’s and hardware outside of the USA stationed “blackmail” forces.
The whole democracy line is a farce beyond belief. No law to abide by makes chaos so rampant so no viable survivability is possible.
Seems only the British vimpires are capable of seeing this. Wondering if any European parasites will ever see the light and steer the EU in a other course free from under Uncle SAM’s thumb.
An interesting 2010 article about Sufism in present-day Turkey:
http://www.eurasianet.org/node/61379
Today: Azerbaijan, defined as Turkey’s close ally, closes Gulen-linked university:
http://www.eurasianet.org/node/79781
My comment is finally out of moderation. Enjoy!
https://gizadeathstar.com/2016/07/russians-claim-transmutation/#comment-63659