11 thoughts on “NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM FEB 16, 2012”

  1. Bear claw Chris Lapp

    If the Nazis did land on the White House Lawn and claimed peaceful intentions, would anybody give them a chance to explain their ideas? If a group actually has the ability to build a base on the moon, they would obviously be quite knowledgeable of the workings of the universe. Do people in America have the ability to hear out the Nazis objectively after 65 years of veyr, very intense anti-Nazs propaganda, or, are our minds too closed?

  2. I think the movie will be good, not for any depiction of reality (what movie ever is), but as an opportunity to open people up to other possibilities. I like the idea that they are strongly pushing th concept that UFOs are not aliens, but Nazis, and I think there is a definite touch of truth in that, as put forth in JPF’s Roswell book.

    I like this for the same reason I like Sitchin – thinking outside the box – doing the “what if?” exercise to give a person a different perspective. Sitchin’s ideas, by way of Gardner, were what first led me to think in terms of “the gods” being actual beings as opposed to the mythological/psychological constructs of weak-minded savages. While I don’t accept everything Sitchin has written, he certainly does make one think differently, and that is valuable.

    Also, this is a crowd-sourced movie – the financing was launched by crowd-source methods, and that holds great promise for breaking the stranglehold of Hollyweird, and it’s (Bankster) gatekeeper/propagandist role in movie making.

    Besides, I hope they have good special effects for the saucers and advanced weapons – getting those ideas into mass consciousness will create a greater interest in and acceptance of, the work of JPF and others in this field. People will more readily accept that which they can visualize…..(one of Hollyweird’s psyops secrets).

    I think it can help boost JPF’s sales, and I think we should help capitalize on that. Time for a little guerrilla marketing.
    Whether people think the movie is good or bad, it gives a perfect opportunity to interject the idea that they should read JPF’s books if they want to know “the real story.” JPF’s publishers should be doing the same…..

    So, lots of posts everywhere the movie is mentioned….let’s build some momentum here……..

  3. The German’s revenge:

    The US and Israel launch an attack on Iran/Syria. The Germans secretly organize a boycott of the US dollar in retaliation. The majority of the world decides to no longer trade in dollars. The US immediately goes into an economic tailspin because it can no longer import the necessary goods for self sustainment. The populous riots. The US government seeks aid from NATO. NATO takes control of Northcom and declares martial law and disbands the US government. The head of NATO, a German general, becomes the de facto head of the US. He orders the end of all US military aggressions with Iran/Syria. Israel is left to fight Iran and Syria on its own. Israel goes to launch its fighter jets but they are shot down by NATO forces in Iraq under orders to preserve a no-fly zone. The rest of Israel’s drones and fighter jets are hacked and are grounded. Quickly Israel begins to get overrun by enemy forces. They order their submarines to surface and launch on Tehran and Damascus. Unfortunately for the Israelis, the Germans put an override mechanism into the missile launch systems of the submarines they built for the Israelis. When the Israelis go to launch the ballistic missiles on Iran and Syria, the missiles land in Israel. Israel is virtually destroyed. The few surviving Israelis that remain can not flee because they have swallowed so many gold and silver coins that their bellies become sick and they fall prone in the streets only to be sliced open by vengeful and greedy jihadists who know this age old trick of vanquished jews.

  4. As for Nazis on the Moon it not a new idea look up Robert A.Heinlein he wrote a scifi novel on that theme. So the Nazis on the Moon not a new idea. Anyway Iron Sky is a comedy so have some fun and enjoy the film.

  5. Timo Vuorensola, the director of the film, recently did a Q&A session on reddit. I took the opportunity to ask him about the use of Kammler’s name in the film, here’s my question and his response:

    Me: “This question is a bit different than the others in this thread.

    I know this is going to sound weird, but how much was this movie based on reality? Obviously I’m not talking about literally Nazis hiding out on the moon after WWII. I’m referring to a more subtle parallel with reality.

    For example, Project Paperclip was responsible for “importing” thousands and thousands of Nazis and assimilating them into the science, espionage, and government agencies here in the US (the Soviets got their fair share too).

    Similarly, Allen Dulles literally struck a deal with the devil by allowing the notorious Reinhard Gehlen to maintain his secret spy ring for decades after the war.

    And the thing that struck me most of all (I haven’t seen the film yet), I noticed you actually used the name of Hans Kammler in your film! For those that aren’t aware of Kammler’s reputation, this was a man who not only was in charge of all of Nazi Germany’s secret weapons/project production, but he infamously redesigned the concentration camps for more brutal efficiency.

    But, most importantly, Kammler was head of an actual antigravity project known as “Die Glocke” (or The Bell). More and more evidence suggests that Kammler did not die at the end of the war, and he may have escaped with this device.

    Obviously your movie is satire, and obviously it’s meant to just be loads of fun (I can’t wait)!

    But I can’t help but wonder, whose idea was it to use the actual character Hans Kammler? It seems someone must have done their research, and perhaps is trying to hint at something?

    For those interested in the physics and story behind the mysterious Die Glocke, I recommend the work of Igor Witkowski, Joseph P. Farrell, and Nick Cook.

    Thanks so much, good luck with the film!”

    His reply:

    “Suprisingly many people ask about Hans Kammler, but he isn’t a character in the film. He’s just part of the backstory.

    I wouldn’t say Iron Sky is based on reality, but it’s certainly based on real conspiracy theories. We’re very familiar with them.”

    Cute answer, eh? I feel satisfied =D

    “We’re *very* familiar with them”

    *wink*

  6. Robert Barricklow

    No gain, just pain for those that go with the economies of “The City of London” vs. “The Civil Commons by which People’s Lives are Sustained”.
    Privatized vs. The Commons
    It is as if the ‘grey paradigm’ of rights & wrongs are being drawn from an ‘insideside balance’, to the exremes of inherint inequaities, becoming/morphing/manifesting into ‘black/white paradigms’, a shift that portends a clash reminscent of WW1(which never really truly ‘balanced’ the previous ‘awakening’.
    A superintendent of police(SP) in India said the main problem with ‘terrorists’ is they didn’t understand greed. That unless they became greedy, there was no hope for India’s growing militarized police forces. Instead, what they really needed to do, was just put a TV in every ‘terrorist home’. Then, everything would be automatically sorted out.

    1. How the Elitist ruled, government trained (programmed) military/police “think” ;- I Am at the home of a retired marine sniper, then lifetime police tactical squad sniper. Severely injured in action, then retired. He told me he’d killed countless people, both in the Nam war, & in the squad, and sent “100” to death row. Not a single statement or sign of remorse, except for one instance when a squad of “gooks” overwhelmed his squad, & he pulled the guts out of his dead “best friend” (‘Tune’ was his name), and covered himself with them to appear dead as a second squad of “gooks” (1st squad all killed) came, knifed him in the chest as “procedure,” whilst flies crawled in his nostrils. A second squad of marines appeared &, he happily stated, killed “every last one” of the 2nd “gook” squad. A real darling of humanity; alone, family disowned. Btw, his main activity is watching his giant tv at near full-blast. Retired with honors: the “perfect citizen.” (And yes, selfish & greedy.)

      1. Robert Barricklow

        The law locks up the hapless felon
        who steals the goose off the common,
        but lets the greater felon loose
        who steals the common from the goose.
        ANONYMOUS, England, 1821

  7. Well Joseph,
    We are in fact, experiencing rhe beginning/front of
    Laviolette’s “Supergalactic Wave” which is hitting
    our own weakened Electromagnetic Field as the
    technology specifically created to avoid a planetary
    hit has it encircling the Earth but, because the field
    extends so far out into space, cannot avoid it.

    If Laviolette has anything to say about this,
    you will not hear this ‘news’ inside the US through
    a controlled media and I haven’t tried researching
    further.

    The http://www.SpaceWeather.com page however, is
    tacking it onto the “solar wind” and says quite plainly
    that what is going on to “unsettle” and even creating
    “stormy” conditions with our own field is NOT being
    fully “understood” by the page’s “forecasters.”
    AND
    I can tell you that it is NOT the US that is ‘saving’ the planet.

    1. I have also started reading “Saucers…….”
      and some related material and I think you
      must have had a lot of fun researching the
      section on Adamski…………….?
      😉

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