Here's one for the record books, if it proves to be true (and we can already hear the howls of protest from academia...but more about that later). It seems that a 400,000,000 year old machine has been unearthed in the Kamchatka peninsula in extreme eastern Russia:

Machine dated at 400 million years found in Russia

As I've blogged here before, and written about in some of my books, such unusual artifacts are not unknown to Michael Cremo and Richard Thompson of Forbidden Archeology fame. As they pointed out in there book, such artifacts point to the existence of someone here on earth prior to the existence of modern homo sapiens sapiens, possessed of  fairly sophisticated technology.

So academia, in response to such things, inevitably falls back on its carefully constructed dogma, and contrives reasons that such discoveries are "misinterpreted" data, forgeries, or simply impossible. IN my opinion, the reason is rather simple: the dogma has to be maintained, for to admit the legitimacy of such discoveries would draw attention to the possibility that the stories of human origins from the Vedic literature of India, the literature of Mesopotamia such as the Atrahasis Epic, the Edfu texts, and so on, might actually contain residues of truth, and of a high technology, which those very same elites wish to obscure and monopolize.

Admission of that possibility opens up the possibility that the ancient "cosmic war" as I call it, also happened, and was fought with horrendous technologies and to a degree of destruction scarcely imaginable. It opens the possibility that those technologies could be recovered. It likewise opens up the possibility that "ET" may be our genetic cousins, and that we are, as I hinted in an earlier blog, from their standpoint but property. It opens up, finally, the possibility that all prehistory will have to be rewritten, from a comprehensive textual standpoint, including our religious history.

See you on the flip side....

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. Luigi on August 26, 2012 at 7:08 am

    Well, what do you think about this post? http://www.thetruthbehindthescenes.org/2012/03/09/400-million-year-old-machine-found-in-russia/

    What about this (uncropped) wikimedia file? http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:FossileLaudonomphalus_regularis.jpg

    I guess Occam won this round 🙂

    (see the March 10th update)

  2. Enlil's a Dog on May 1, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    I’ve been reading (on the internet) some stories about an object known as the “Dark Satellite” or “Dark Knight Satellite” reportedly discovered in orbit in the early 1960’s…Does anyone have any legitimate info on this story or is it a dis-informational hoax??


    • Joseph P. Farrell on May 3, 2012 at 4:22 am

      That’s an interesting story…as of this moment I think it is a bit of a disinfo psyop…

    • Enlil's a Dog on May 3, 2012 at 6:36 pm

      Thanks, Dr Farrell…From what I read it was reported in Time Magazine initially after and then the story just disappeared, surprise surprise lol…Apparantly no-one had ever seen it before because it was Black and didn’t reflect light..I tend to agree with you, but if it was true one could understand the elites wanting to keep that information to themselves


  3. Lee on April 9, 2012 at 7:18 am

    makes sense. the earth is some 5 billion years old and man has had language for 5000 years. hmmm…

  4. HAL838 on April 2, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    Gee, Steve……..no problem as it actually hasn’t been written at all yet.
    Nice to be guarranteed a future, though !

  5. Maxim K. Rice on April 2, 2012 at 2:23 pm

    Well, I really DO have these things on my windowsill. See any resemblance to the 400,000,000 year old machine gears? If they would begin chipping these things out of the matrix I believe they will find that these are the ends of long stems.


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  6. SSNaga on April 2, 2012 at 7:24 am

    The Principality of Lie-ght Hides Behind the smiling faces of society – through all Things & Entities of ‘life’=live=evil=Veil-of-Energy (Void). Smile… you’re on Uncandid Camera… closely Observed. Talk about “UnConscious” human beings – naked Apes (“Daily Bell” appellation). … Your “friendly” neighborhood SpyDerMon: http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/CopyofDark-Evil.jpg

    • Jedi on April 2, 2012 at 4:47 pm

      ding dong the bell rings true

  7. Jedi on April 2, 2012 at 3:19 am

    ah… the mathematical wonders of nature, apples are my personal favorite mathematical wonder and the Fibonacci sequence found ..everywhere, to know god is to understand mathematics, I believe that was Michael Angelo that said that …

    I would love to examine those massive stone gears found buried in North America carbon dated layer around 10,000 BC then promptly carted away to the …Smithsonian?.

    • Don B on April 2, 2012 at 5:26 am

      One of my favorite historical characters, Bernard of Clairvaux, reportedly said “God is geometry”. I think he was on to something.


      • paul degagne on April 2, 2012 at 6:05 am

        What Year is this? (Did somebody ‘transport me somewhere else?)

        I can’t Believe I just read what I just read!

        Don B — I have a ‘tip’ for You which might help You out if lose or are ever unemployed and need a job? I know just the place where they would hire you in ‘ten-seconds-flat!”

        Go to San Francisco to a place called Fisherman’s Wharf. There is this famous WAX MUSEUM there?

        You wouldn’t have to do much work — Just POSE and SAY —GOD IS GEOMETRY.”

        • Jedi on April 2, 2012 at 6:36 am

          could you further explain what you “believe” you read?

          Go buy a artichoke, and start counting the rows….can you identify a mathematical pattern?

          • Jedi on April 2, 2012 at 4:29 pm

            or ….light that wax candle..head to the basement and have a look around…be sure to check the radian.

          • paul degagne on April 3, 2012 at 3:41 am

            Artichokes — I tried one when I was a child. If I can recall they didn’t taste like much but then again I aint one of these gourmets but I use to be a connoseur of Thunderbird, ha, ha! ( just like the wino Peter Lorre in Poe’s Hollywood tale?)

            But I do love Avocardos! They once has a huge crop in California which no one was buying. One person suggested they sell them as “dog food’ for dogs go mad not only for bacon bits but avocardos too.

            I guess this is bad for business and the avocardo owners had their way for just yesterday at the supermarket One small miserly avocado was going for a buck and a half!

            JEDI – If I was going to ‘read into anything” I would read the lines on my palm? (or even my forehead for that matter?)

          • Jedi on April 18, 2012 at 9:08 pm

            you calling me a hound dog barking all the time….you aint never caught a rabbit and you aint no friend of mine…..

            Elvis liked dressing up in his thunderbird outfit….amurica home of feathered serpent…..now about that wow signal.

            you said you were high class…but that was just a lie.

  8. Robert Barricklow on April 1, 2012 at 10:13 am

    The ‘Metal parts’ are the trees.
    Now, what where are those forrests you looking at?

    • Robert Barricklow on April 1, 2012 at 10:35 am

      This is in response to those “crinoids”.

      • Jedi on April 2, 2012 at 6:41 am

        The metal parts may be a ruse too throw us off the actual gear and pulley mechanisms employed by ancient supermen.

        I stress may…question everything, take nothing for granted, trust nothing but your senses…..liars murderers and thieves lurk like rats.

        • Robert Barricklow on April 2, 2012 at 7:50 am

          Perhaps they MAY be manufactured on Krypton?

          • Jedi on April 2, 2012 at 12:43 pm

            watch out for the green glass in the Libyan desert…although the dung beetle holds it in its golden grasp around the pharohs mask.

          • Robert Barricklow on April 2, 2012 at 1:02 pm

            Green Glass/Pharohs Mask.
            A Jedi Class Act!

          • Jedi on April 2, 2012 at 4:26 pm

            vacationing in Tahiti.

          • Robert Barricklow on April 3, 2012 at 8:30 am

            Babes in Toyland
            Now, that’s a fine mess, worth getting into.

          • Jedi on April 3, 2012 at 5:24 pm

            The axis of fire

  9. LSM on April 1, 2012 at 9:40 am

    “It opens up, finally, the possibility that all prehistory will have to be rewritten, from a comprehensive textual standpoint, including our religious history.”

    it’s about time- when will the sheeple wake up and finally realise that the impositional religious dogmas were written by a small but powerful group of control-freaks who hoodwinked the populace due to their big-mouthed rhetoric/ exlusively controlled orthography-


    P.S.- the squeeky wheel always gets the oil- too bad the sheeple still don’t realise this- a sqeeky wheel is the last thing that will support us to where we want to go- after all, it’s defect… (don’t get me started on the concept of “oil”… )

  10. michael on April 1, 2012 at 8:45 am

    Interesting finding & discussion here, but Joseph, is there anymore reliable source than just a blog, pointing to a blog?

  11. MattB on April 1, 2012 at 2:54 am

    Could it be that the Crinoids may (and I stress MAY) be a cover for what these objects could really be? Ask yourself this question: ‘Why would anyone bother planting the E.T meme using a Physicist who could quite easily refute any interest/involvement in Paleontology, or a Paeolontological Extra-Terrestrial object with a seemingly well known fossil?’ If it is a fraud, it is so badly constructed that it only DISCREDITS the ‘Ancient Astronaut meme’. Now I ask ‘Who would like to see that meme discredited?’

  12. Kent on March 31, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    I would like to know the scale of the photograph. I believe the article hinted at the machine being a watch. That would indicate something small. But those wheels could be one, two or more feet in diameter.

    Just for grins. If it was a spaceship crash, maybe the ship dropped its Artikythera
    Mechanism on its way to Russia and that same item is older than 2,000 years.

  13. marcos anthony toledo on March 31, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    I have read in other books about about these anomolelies going back to Frank Edwards, Brad Stieger and others at lest to the 60s. And further back to Charles Fort the early 20th century. Unfortunately dogma has and still is prefured to truth and honest specurelation. Once our elites get some idea into their heads their minds shutdown and there is no breaking down their mental logjams they like the party members in 1984 they quack the party line wherther religious,politcal or scientific ideas brain dead zombies.

  14. MattB on March 31, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    I think I am having to go with Crinoids on this one, unless Crinoids is really a cover in itself…..

    However we do have a Prof Golubev from St. Petersburg University-and he is a PHYSICIST. He seems to be interested in Quantum statistical theory of lasers.


    Prof. Golubev Yuri Mikhailovich
    Head of the Lab

    Date and place of birth
    19th of Sept.1938, Ulan-Yde, USSR

    Affiliation and official address
    V.A.Fock Physics Institute, St. Petersburg State University, 198504 Uljanovskaya ul. 1, Stary Petershof, St. Petersburg, Russia
    mobile.: +7 911 2133608
    office tel.: +7 (812) 4284338
    fax: 8 (812) 428 7240

    4/06/1963 Leningrad Polytechnical Institute (now St. Petersburg Technical State University), Leningrad.

    Academical Degrees
    21/03/1974 Ph.D., Physics Institute, St. Petersburg State University, St. Petersburg
    23/12/1983 Sc.D., Physics Institute, St. Petersburg State University, St. Petersburg
    Head of the laboratory, Physics Institute, St. Petersburg State University
    Professor, Department of Physics, St. Petersburg State University
    Teaching Activity
    From 1996 to present, Department of Physics, St. Petersburg State University, professor
    1990-1995, Baltic Technical University (St. Petersburg), professor
    Membership in Professional Societies
    Russian Optical Society
    St. Petersburg Physical Society
    St. Petersburg Scientific Society
    Contacts with the West Universities
    Universite des Sciences et Technologies de Lille, France
    Universitat GH Essen, Germany
    Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
    Laboratoire Kastler Brossel, Universite Pierre et Marie Curie, Paris, France
    Texas A&M University, USA
    University in Innsbruck, Austria
    Max Plank Institute, Munich, Germany
    Ludwig Maximilian University, Munich, Germany
    1999 – present: Lectures for students of the first course “Mechanics”
    Supervision of B.Sc., M.Sc. and Ph.D. students
    1979 – present: Lecture course ” Problems of modern quantum optics”
    1995 – present: Lecture course “Quantum statistical theory of laser”

    • Daniel Jones on March 31, 2012 at 4:42 pm

      I think I’m in agreement here too Mattb. I don’t think there’s much reason to take this example with anything but fossilized crenoids at the moment without an analysis for this being otherwise. Nature produces such geometry and structure in itself. My guess is that someone out in the blogosphere is being a bit sensational.

    • Kent on March 31, 2012 at 6:00 pm

      WOW! What a pedigree.

  15. Jon Norris on March 31, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    Interesting find, and I’m sure that they will trot out some “expert” to claim that it is a fake or mis-dated, as always with these things.

    The translation reminds me of a movie character – the bumbling Italian lieutenant in “The Secret War of Harry Frigg,” (“…possibly”)

    Wonder if it is related to artifacts from the Moon….

  16. Awake on March 31, 2012 at 11:34 am

    Exerciseing freedom of choice is an enormous mental power that changes energy sycronization and potentially even energy manifestation when it is acted upon and followed long enough with enough passion. Thus the instinctual need to limit and hide the choices others truely have is practiced by those who are insecure but aware of this secret power. Knowledge is analogueous to volts as passion is analogueous to amps. The great works based upon knowledge and passion come ultimately from the mental wattage at work on chooseing and synconizing to the manifestation of new potentials to operate and co-create on. Thus the need to mute passions by these same ignorant, insecure illuminati who have been passed down limited knowledge of these secrets but are unfit in both mental capacity, psychologically, and enough knowledge on them to not intefere with the exercise and knowledge of these secrets by all. Their lack of true understanding, failure to evolve past primative and destructive motivations, and fear of unfettered evolution will cause the extinction of humanity if they don’t come to their senses or are de-throned soon. Grasp with your mind a potential that could be but is currently unobserved by you and others. Search how it could work and might be brought into being. Share your ideas and drum up passion for your ideas with like minded dreamers set about createing or acting upon them. See if the more wattage you and others poor into these new potential phenomenons don’t lead to syncranization with a new wave form incorporateing more and more these new potential phenomenons. Not only from your own circle but miraculously springing up in other previously non-existant circles and previously unobserved timelines in the past among previously unknown circles. You have just successfuly reality shifted my freind by expending the neccessary mental wattage to successfully do so. Whether you stay there or how far you progress in the new potential forms of energy manifestation depends upon how far you and others choose to go down this new rabbit hole and the others that you will then be able to intuit and learn to manifest on and travel.

  17. James on March 31, 2012 at 11:13 am

    Needless to say some strange things and info keep cropping up on this blog! What was this guys name Micheal Assagio and we had experiments in the 50’s and 60’s with time travel and teleportation from New Jersey to New Mexico in a few seconds!
    Wow wouldn’t that be cool form of transportation and my guess is that was 50-60 years ago so where is it and what are they doing with it now? Just like this spying on us 24/7 through our TV’s and computers! Or the NEW spiral light shaped lite bulbs even David Icke commented on this and some detrimental effects of these new light bulbs. I have heard these reptillians would like to have you over for lunch! Ha LOL! And we laugh but what was the devil the picture of in the garden was he not a cold blooded serpent? Does that not make him a reptile? And this was a form of worship all over the world from time to time! Snakes or dragons or serpents asia china! In a lot of ways this guy is much more credible then many of you are! Because he is not afraid to go out on a limb. And you might call him a false prophet but i see more revelation coming from him then many so called christians! With the exception maybe of this blog.

    Well why hasn’t this been talked about! As a possible explanation! Or the Turkish anomoly a whole underground city or them stone circles burried in sand with odd looking creatures., I thought it looked familiar to like a large Mall parking lot with various creatures so if you got drunk you could still get help finding your way back to your flying saucer! And then the recently discovered Serbian pyramids? And then the ones in China!? Strange times we are living in! Strange discoveries? How many more pieces of the puzzle are their yet to be discovered that are underwater like in Japan and India. So I have as well pondered the question is it possible God is some type of supreme alien the glimpses I have had of him was pure power in human form. And then things like the book of Enoch not allowed in the bible which appear to be some sort of advanced or alien type spiritual dimension.

    But or this we call junk DNA and such a small brain capacity! But my guess is like in a computer as pictures and multimedia type things take up more memory space on a hard drive then just written words and numbers and things or documents. So you see this is why God uses dreams and visions and why they are so explosive for spiritual growth! They help to expand your mind verses only words and verbal things. Eventually I imagine we were meant to be some what telepathic it just takes us a while to tune into that sort of frequency. And you never do (Look-up-to-the- higher things) if you are always reading from books! You continue to stay at the lowest levels in your spirituality when or if you fast and pray and relax and depend “only on God” now you can enter this sort of spiritual sort of dream state or wakening! And he God can put the more valuable knowledge through multimedia type pictures or videos into your mind some what telepathically.

    Is it not the same even in the natural for teaching and learning the percentage increases of uptake memory dimensionally from words to pictures to video’s.

    If a picture is worth a thousand words! What is more valuable? And it is the same with God! Only he has to get “his pictures” in you to get the most benefit! So if you have the spirit it is not even necessary that you know how to read and or write period. What will be your discription of what he shows you in this picture form is what is important! And that we share our information!

    You see I don’t even know what it would be like to do this in a group like in the case of the upper room what has he revealed and hear I saw that to and I saw that to or I saw something else! So is this not some what telepathic if you are all seeing similar things! It may start out with simple words to get you tuned in so you know how he speaks to you! But that is just the warm up!

    Or alien technology if they can move through space and time who is to say somebody wasn’t reaching for a cup of star bucks coffee and accidentally hit a wrong button plunging them a little further back in time then they wanted to go. Ay Mr Scott: Whats going on down there? I captain I think I spilled some scotch or coffee on the control panel! So i got my hair dryer out trying to dry it all out should be back and running again in a wee few minutes! Obviously looks like we ain’t in Kansas anymore! Ya we might have to lighten the load a little think I’ll just throw it out the window here. No worries they’ll never figure it out Captain! And we’ll be back on our way.

    Right here in the good old USA serious outer limits type things! What a country? But the irony is I have known or seen crap going on behind the scenes for years just out the corner of my eye how many other countries been chipping away at us from the inside through various legal exploits! Folks talk about prayer in school being taken away! But you can still do it Jesus way privately or secretly to yourself. And that shouldn’t bother anybody!
    If I am not mistaken Jesus told us specifically not to pray like this. Openly and in public like the scribes pharasee’;s and Rabbi’s do! In fact gloating themselves up in the lime light and reading from a script that somebody else wrote! But we see it all the time these days on TV internet or radio and never bat an eyelash think to consider if it is right or wrong according to whose doctrines.

    But you are right about dogma who is to say there can never be new revelation or discoveries! In my spirit you would think I am limited in some ways to 7-8 000 years. But really the book of Genesis kind of leaves space and time open for thought. But in the new testament if a day is 1000 years and a 1000 years is like day! Who is to say God himself didn’t have some problems getting humanity started! Because even I can sure see a lot of cracks in discoveries and space time continueum. But maybe the spirit will be able to fill in some of these missing details. Like if he Jesus went down to Egypt how could he not have seen the pyramids? And wondered? Like many of us including me have wondered even today? And the extinction cycles? For the spirit searches the deep things of God so lets hope so!

    Things like Enoch, Elijah, and Eziekiel where did they really go up to some mother ship or alien abduction? We shall see as the journey continues by the stealth apostle!

  18. amrta on March 31, 2012 at 11:10 am

    Kudos to the Russians for once again being the ones who are open-minded enough to put these things out there for discussion.

    When such are found in the US, they are quickly snatched up by the Smithsonian, never to be heard from again.

  19. Awake on March 31, 2012 at 10:22 am

    I’ve seen speculation that Venus may have had oceans a few hundred thousand years ago and not hundreds of millions. Then a catastrophy happened and it caused the planet to have massive magmatic resurfaceing of the entire planet. In the last 50 years of monitering it has been noted that its counter rotation compared to the rest of the planets in our solar system has slowed and may be about to correct itself in time. Evidence that the catastrophy was much more recent then we are being told. It is also speculated that life potential conditions may have started billions of years ahead of Earth’s. If Earth faced a similar fate in the future and we new it and had a chance to colonize Mars would our elite do it. I personally think we would be smart to start introduce oxygen produceing microbes that could live in Mars thin carbon dioxide atmosphere. Perhaps Mars IS Earth in the past and Venus IS Earth in the future. Space, time, and alternate dimensions may flow in more of an onionated vortex. From our point of reference on our frequency peak or other position on our particular galactive wave potential we are only able to see the syncronizing progression window of our past and future planet in their syncronization with our current relative wave position. Meaning if you look at a wave peaks and valleys of a wave graph we are only able to see our past and future manifestations at certain distances and only where they syncronize with our own current speed and position on our frequency. Because we are unaware of the infinite onion vortex manifestation, progression, and retrogration of space and time frequencies we observe Venus and Mars to be seperate entities from Earth and only existing in seperate solar positions. That’s because our senses operate on and are limited to different wave forms to base our observations on and have a finite band width of frequency perception.

  20. willem on March 31, 2012 at 8:38 am

    “The astonishing is that all the pieces were dated in 400 million! of anos.Yury Gobulev commented:”

    the question is what ways/ methods are there to find that data….?
    It sounds pretty absurd!

    • paul degagne on April 1, 2012 at 3:13 am


      You have a good point there. How in the world did they come up with the date – 400 million yrs?

      Start asking a few pointed intelligent, simple and reasonable questions in a certain particular way. All of a sudden all the excitement and commotion leave the room and a few people start to SQUIRM. There’s usually always a few early-birds who then tell you they have to leave the Party early? ( who blames them for who likes yoke on their faces from fascicos?)

      I remember reading this little trivia-like note in the back of a textbook that did nothing but promote a certain view ( really the book was an exercise in BRAG, BRAG, BRAG and I am certain mainstream science would ignore this aspect! ( it wasn’t a newspaper for then I would say it probably was PLACED right next to or just before the sports section on page 36>)

      Well in it it said there are (I think) about five different ways or scientific research methodologies to Carbon-date a substance. Each has its only perfectly sound method for dating an object. The only thing is that the spread from one model can be as much as 20 thousand to two hundred thousand years depending on which METHODOLOGY one used!

      What’s up with this SHIT?

      In the real world there is only so much money to ‘go around’ for research. All five methods should be used before anyone can even say with some level of certainty or sic EXACTNESS what or how old something is. ( again, we know research cost money and only certain forms are permitted that back up a DOMINANT consensus drawn by WHO?)

      What do you think happens in a typical —- Laurel and Hardy Scientific Outfit? Three guesses, ha, ha!

      Another example of how scientists really operate and in a way their like Bureaucrats? Plan, decide on that plan, plan some more and decide or don’t decide some more til the DEAD LINE ARISES and someone’s job is at stake if this doesn’t pull through.

      Then the MAD RUSH! ( a mad rush is not the best way to make decisions! One is only LUCKY only so often then it’s — the KNIFE! or your out their with the 99% -ers.

      Yes Dorathy — there are some Wall Streeters in the former Occupuppy movement who lost their cushy jobs and saw the light.

      I saw the Light. I am saved! Hallo—lulu(s)!

      Hallolulus or “Cute a Shegedbeh!” ( One learns a new word every day? Frieda said shegedbeh, which in Hungarian means, “cute, my ass”)

      • paul degagne on April 1, 2012 at 4:06 am

        It’s APRIL FOOLS DAY and I got to go now for there are a couple of dozen angry farmers with pitchforks and I don’t like the angry look on their faces and how they are looking at me.

        Jesus, some people never learn to forgive a grudge. Last yr. they hired me to be a BELL-RINGER for their village but one night I got really “happy’ drinking the local Bennedicteen Monestary Brandy (its really very good) that I jumped on the ropes and woke everybody up 2am in the morning the Bishop was supposed to arrive. (well they were nice about that and gave me another job with no pay and I had to sleep in the barn. At least the hay was soft up in the loft and some daughters use to feel sorry for me and visit me up there from time to time even though I am no hunchback — I noticed the food they served me was ‘thrown to the pigs” if I didn’t want it?

        Well to make a long story short — They made me the official wolf spotter or sentry of the village. It was a pain in the ass fighting wolves all the time and Having to CRY WOLF WHEN EVERY SINGLE TIME THIS HAPPENED THE WOLF RAN AWAY BEFORE ANY VILLAGES WOULD SPOT THEM!

        One night because I was so TIRED I fell asleep and those DAM WOLVES saw that I was checking my eyelids for holes — they CREEP-ED up to the village and ATE a few of the prominant citizens.


        But you know — these Christian People don’t forget anything!

        ###### Have a happy and mischef-vous APRIL FOOLS DAY – this DAY = TODAY


        There more to this story— They ate the Burger Meister and when I enter his house no one was around? I saw this small purse on the table filled with the Burger Meister’s Gold Coins. I am not usually a CROOK but I could use the money and what the heck he and his family were probably being DIGESTED IN A WOLF’S TUMMY so he didn’t need it.

        I took the gold went down to the tip of Italy and bought a small sailboat and sailed around Med Sea for a couple of yrs until one day I was around Morroco and a HUGE STORM blew me across the Atlantic Up the St. Laurance river in Canada onto LAKE MICHIGEN. The WINDS were so strong I fell overboard and that’s the last thing I remember!

        I woke up on the shores of the Gold Coast in Chicago with a woman nudging me awake in the shallow water. “Are You All Right,” she said>

        Turns out she just HAPPENED TO BE my next future wife and We Live Happily Ever After……!

    • HAL838 on April 2, 2012 at 5:57 pm

      Hi Willem.
      They geologically date the strata it is found in.

  21. Robert Barricklow on March 31, 2012 at 8:15 am

    Look for mainstream denials in spades.
    And Aces of Deceptions.

  22. willem on March 31, 2012 at 8:14 am

    wow, Joseph you took that page out of Hacienda Dignidad and this Schaeffer….
    what happened?

    • willem on March 31, 2012 at 12:12 pm

      sorry it is there again I was wrong…..

  23. Michael Wolff on March 31, 2012 at 6:56 am

    Just read the comments to the linked article.
    I say hoax and Trochitenkalk to this one.




  24. Maxim on March 31, 2012 at 6:55 am

    Yes, i really think this is a crinoid fossil. I have found similar ones on a mesa near Socorro NM. Have some on my windowsill.

    • paul degagne on March 31, 2012 at 8:28 am

      I don’t know?

      I do know it doesn’t take long for “this odd bunch in here” to see through things.

      Really fast if I must say so Chaps! ( and to think we never went to Cambridge!) Sorry Joe, but I know you know you have a good audience here. Quick too pick up on your intelligent observations. You see all appreciate each other around here. I wonder why?)

      I bet you guys could cause a few of the pinheads over at MIT (the other Cambridge) some worry?

      If this is so —- I really am having a good humored time thinking about … hoaxes?

      Nah, “Have some on my windowsill.”

      Now that is a real good joke and it isn’t really even a joke. (Why couldn’t I have come up with it? like in that Tuna fish commerical — “Sorry Charlie — only tunas that taste good get to graduate, not tunas with good taste!)

      Ok — I will quit this HAM and beans shit!

      It’s just that — “windowsills” is a really Potty idea! Gets to me the more I think of it…!

      Kind of reminds me of the ADAMS FAMILY and that strange staircase of theirs?

    • mizzu on March 31, 2012 at 9:30 am

      Here are some fotos of crinoids. Quite similar to the fotos of the specimen they found.


    • Tor on March 31, 2012 at 11:28 am

      Yes, I think so too. Looks a lot like this


  25. Charlie Primero on March 31, 2012 at 6:49 am

    I have worked on motorcycles and geared farm machinery all my life. These ‘gears’ do not look mechanical to me. They were too irregular.

    Closer investigation with an open mind leads one to the conclusion that the ‘gears’ are fossilised crinoid marine creatures.

    In fact, the image in that Russian article appears to have been cropped from this larger image: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/FossileLaudonomphalus_regularis.jpg

    Every outlandish claim professional skeptics are able to easily refute makes it slightly easier for the ancient control hierarchy to persuade the Sheeple to dismiss the entire human freedom movement as a fringe pipe dream.

    • HPrice on March 31, 2012 at 3:52 pm

      Yep, you’re totally right, Charlie (if I may call you that lol). Its exactly the same image. And so another interesting story bites the dust 😀 … nevermind. You have to be so careful with some stories you see on the net. They seem fine at first glance, they seduce you with the exciting thoughts they create in your head, but ultimately a lot of them are pure hokum.

      Still there have been artifacts that have been found (if all the stories are of course, true) which speak to, maybe, earlier civilsations who lived on the planet. Though of course there are only pictures or drawings of said artifacts, and even those have to be looked at with a little scepticism until one can hold the actual things in one’s hands.

      And as one person commented on the original blog post, if those really were cogs, then the engineers were bloody shoddy!! :D.

      • paul degagne on April 1, 2012 at 3:31 am

        HPrice —-

        it gets really bad or worst for pictures are only “representations — in a way metaphorically they murder the existence of the Object!

        Take that giant skeleton shown in one of Farrel’s books? I loved to believe that is authentic! BUT — IN A World in which even one’s mother will sell you out ( I know it’s usually said the other way and my mother would never do such a thing if she were still alive —- but many do trying to catch the illusionary gold ring on this MERRY-GOLD-ROUND WORLD we be in!

        Who the F2UCK DO WE TRUST?

        Or many be I should have put the Question a little differently?


  26. paul degagne on March 31, 2012 at 5:25 am

    If this is true….. I have to ask my self Joe,as you probably already have, Why This, Why Now! As you can rightly assume — a HOAX?

    But that provoke-a-tive “WHAT IF” really gets to us poor doubting thomas suckers (although we hide it well) who secretly deep down don’t believe a word of it. That’s how bad this Stockhelm-like form of subjectivity was induced into us. There’s a lot we can do to correct it but still — those isty-bitsy bits always remaining cause us the most-trouble (bother)

    In a way — A TOTAL REALIZATION that this —-DAMMED FACT—- AS CHARLIE FORTE WOULD HAVE PUT IT is ABSOLUTELY TRUE –400 million yrs then…..????????????????????

    That realization I believe would constitute some kind of Complete Transformation! Maybe even a Metamorphorsis to the person or being experiencing or waking up to the fact!

    I woke up to the fact that my body contains atoms that have been around for billions of yeahs. A nice TINGLE then What— No Big Deal!

    That and a dollar and eighty three cents will get you a cup of lousy coffee!


    Thanks for this article. (we still need to know these things mentioned above because it helps in what ways — we don’t know yet?)

    • paul degagne on March 31, 2012 at 6:09 am

      More two pennies in the pot,

      I like this article — if this object is man made then Zilch — there goes the neighborhood meaning Paradigm! (cant have that now kin we?) Reminds me of Why the Old looking Orangatang in the movie didn’t want his fellow Apes to know – APES CAME FROM MEN — I think I screwed this up, ha, ha! I am always GETTING THIS SPACE SCI-FI—- DARWINISM MIXED UP!

      I know one thing for certain —- I came from my mother’s womb or at least some mother’s womb and not a dam TEST-TUBE? [ I don’t know in What World some of these strange people who visit this web-ste came from HA, HA. ]

      I am just JOKING FOLKS for I am not prejudiced in the least bit (bull…!). I don’t hold it against anyone if you have one green stem sticking out of the top of your head with an eye attached to it. (do you?)

      ( I was referring to one of the last scenes of the 1st Planet of the Apes movie)

      Anyway — Joe I heard you like readers’ feedback so I am saying I like this Non-man made material or articles that imply or suggests no human-being made or created this. (that is if you know our ancestors don’t really go back that far but who knows — have to wait — maybe never find out for sure in our lifetimes?)

      Rather than all this WOMAN/MAN made dizzying physics you at times throw at us. You don’t really need it but I realize the ‘competition’ can get fierce in your field and sounding like a Professor helps the gulable at least get into the mood and look at some real stuff such as examining much closer Myths from ‘texts” as you tried your hand at it in the Cosmic War Book.

      I heard with all these new Literary, Linguistic, Semiotics Theories coming out every day some Anthropologists who used to be laughed at by field- anthropologists are now beginning to look at and pay closer attention to what these former ARMCHAIR Anthropologists are writing nowadays. Now that there are no more so-called Primitive Tribes to Study like in the good old days.

      Yes, their is a lot of controversy. ( like what you can and do generate)

      COOKING up in the Kitchen of Anthropology with Capainn Cook and his voyages.

      I like this for it almost sounds Poetic —POESIS MAYBE = COOKING UP TROUBLE WITH CAPTAIN COOK!

      iT shorda rhymns? ( hey, what kind of world is it without some sense of humor in it?)

      • paul degagne on March 31, 2012 at 6:29 am

        I am not sure of this but Native Americans beat drums too besides the typical smoke signals. I heard they could get a message from Maine to Florida faster than No Dam Pony-Express Rider Ever Could.

        Maybe they didn’t need no dam TEMPLE to communicate. So what if it wasn’t instantaneous! DIFFERENT NEEDS-DIFFERENT STROKES

        Think of all the EXPENSE saved by doing so. Also in not hardly touching or effecting their ecological environment they don’t have to clean up marble pits. (how in the world do you clean up a marble pit?)

        Gadgets — NEW or OLD certainly mess-merize our minds!

        Yes, the idea Temples were the Ham Radios of their daycertainly is intriguing supposition!


        There’s got to be some better way than TECHNOLOGY?

        Lets hope someone DRUMS UP some other form of COMMUNICATION?

        • Steve Campbell on March 31, 2012 at 6:56 am

          “Yes, the idea Temples were the Ham Radios of their daycertainly is intriguing supposition!”
          With emphasis on the ‘Ham.” :~)


          “There’s got to be some better way than TECHNOLOGY?”

          Less is more

    • Steve Campbell on March 31, 2012 at 6:27 am

      “It opens up, finally, the possibility that all prehistory will have to be rewritten, from a comprehensive textual standpoint, including our religious history.”

      We need not rewrite prehistory, only acknowledge it.
      I think our ‘religious history’ is encompassed throughout all prehistory up to the present ‘time.’

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