THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO “HMMM”: NASA GIVEN SPY SATELLITES
Here's one that sort of "snuck under the radar", and it raises all sorts of interesting speculations and questions:
US satellite spy agency donates telescopes to NASA
Now, when I read this, I thought, "Whoa....!" For one thing, the use of high resolution spy satellites has an obvious purpose, to spy on other nations, on their bases, constructions, activities, and, one would assume, with the advent of Radar Tomography, what they're doing to a certain depth beneath the ground as well. Now, in the past, we've been told by various internet sources, that these satellites would not have much use for space purposes, say, in photographing...well, the Moon for example, or Mars, etc. Now, granted, the telescopes are on the ground, and the article states there are no cameras, and so on. Sure...the NRO always launches telescopes to peer into other people's business, but, woops, forgets to put a camera on board, or broadcast equipment to send pictures to the earth.
Maybe that's true, and maybe it isn't, but the donation of these satellites to NASA suggests that the NRO may have been surveilling more than Moscow or Beijing, and that indeed, the NRO may have been snooping on other things altogether. A secret space program, so to speak.
Now what also caught my eye was that the NRO no longer "needed" these spy satellites with their implied "space" capabilities, and that NASA doesn't have the money to launch them. As for the first implication, perhaps it indicates that something else has been put into place, and that the NRO may be busily engaging in taking pictures of our nearby neighbors.
In any case, it is an interesting tidbit of information, and one, yet again, that suggests strongly that there is more going on in space than meets the eye, and that someone, at least, is watching it closely.
See you on the flip side.
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I guess nasa must be be Google Earth or Keyhole is now Google earth ??? Google buying up the world is something else that should be looked at, but for now, I think people should know that those spy satellites were actually bought by the church of latter day saints(probably with tax free money donated by google) and given to Google Earth so members of the Church of latter day saints can spy on people that they believe might interfere with their NWO / Illuminati conspiracy project they have going on..All the NWO, Project Blue Beam, Illuminati and Free Mason BS is all being done by the Church of latter day saints and Google… So, if you are being harassed,stalked or a ” TI ” under satellite surveillance, I just want you to know that the criminals violating your civil rights, amongst other crimes being committed against you, the actual criminals are Google employees, google ceo and Members of the Church of Latter day saints… That is a genuine fact!!
Bob,
As basic misdirection of course Perkins Elmer would assert that this is an one off mirror for the Hubble. Even though that’s not likely, because it’s well known that the Hubble is an astronomy version of a Key Hole spy satellite. This is a reasonably hard data point.
Then all of that purported checking and rechecking of the mirror sure makes it seem that Perkins Elmer would notice the problem. Unless of course this was just one of a series of mirrors built correctly for earth facing satellites and the Hubble’s mirror conformed to the specifications for those spy satellites.
Repeating myself a bit differently: Yes, hard raw data is missing, but in this case the best data suggest that this mirror for the Hubble is the same as the ones used in photographic spy satellites, so this mirror was not new tech (perhaps newly public), and that Hubble should have in fact focused correctly upon first activation.
if somebody gives somebody something they could be buying something. the defense department might be trying to get something from NASA. NASA might have some connection to another that the defense dept doesn’t have so in this way they get by giving. what they don’t have is information about the others. the NSA gives to NASA and then looks to see where NASA is looking so they can find NASA’s ‘friends’.
An intriguing scenario Dan and one I find plausible… government agencies spying on other government agencies, though min this case, your scenario about NSA and NASA raises ALL sorts of intriguing speculative possibilities….
You think these spy satellites are spying on other countries ?
Really ? Think again !
I have one right over my head for all kinds of nefarious purposes !
In 15 years, I doubt that it’s first generation.
I’m public friend #1, using all my talents since I was 13.
That makes me Enemy of the State #1.
And I have the strange torturous health to prove it
AND
shunned by the medical community.
The CIA bought up all the property in my neighborhood,
including the house I live in.
With an all-purpose satellite over my head, where would I go ?
I was invited to Russia several years ago.
I had helped out with a problem caused by “US”A,
but declined to leave the only child (the “US”A) they left me.
[She still doesn’t know about my secret life.]
I should be dead every day (?)
THEY think I’m something I always hoped not to be !
It’s not the cia, it’s Google and the church of latter day saints doing all this fanatical spy behavior.. The recently resigned secretary of commerce was the mormon allowing google’s ceo to run all the google earth satellites,which operate out of nasa, illegally for other favors that he got caught on earlier this week.
There is again this disconnect, conditioned into our thinking. Spy satellites and numbers of spy agencies not only can be, but with 100 percent certainty ARE used to spy on the most dangerous species there is, the awakened taxpayer who is about to become a former taxpayer questioning the racket. Money cannot be used without oversight because it’s all a scam. People cannot be allowed to find out things not prescribed by academia (rhymes with Mafia) or the entire moronic model would be exposed to questioning, i.e. would have the same chances as a snowball in hell.
The NRO gave these satellites away because there is better technology available. They probably are monitoring Earth from Aitken or the South Pole of Luna with real cameras, not the pathetic stuff they say is being sent aboard space exploration vehicles using firecrackers for propulsion.
Interesting from many aspects.
That interagency “trust” is an ongoing given. Like the trust in fiat currencies based on nothing but the threat of the power behind it. A forced trust that is catually nonmexistent between those in the know.
The “moon” factor actually hadn’t occurred to me. But that’s what I like. Finding “twist” I hadn’t thought of. I like it!
It’s been common knowledge for years that the Hubble is simply a variation of a KeyHole Spy (aka KH11 I believe) satellite.
The bigger “puzzle” is why was the focus on the Hubble so off upon first launch? It’s not as if this was radically new gear. It’s much more likely that the spy satellite physicists and engineers didn’t realize that the principles of optics aren’t exactly universal–light is a focused medium and focus depends on the density of that medium. (No, I am not talking about air or the chemical atmosphere of our planet).
A couple of KH11s in upstate NY are a distraction, not an indication that they were in use by the military for spying on other planets. That would be done with other gear.
The focus problem was a simple manufacturing mistake. The process to grind the mirror to shape was entirely automated. The shape was supposed to be paraboloid. Someone accidentally used the program for spherical instead. The heal of a paraboloid is very close to a sphere, but not perfect. Was this done on purpose to “dumb down” Hubble’s capabilities? I personally prefer not to attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
Bob,
Yes, that’s the public consumption story.
However it makes no sense if multiple Hubbles were already in orbit as earth facing spy satellites–and there most certainly are/were.
Put differently: The Hubble was known (not one off) technology, and the mirror maker just made a grinding mistake? Huh?
Jay,
Actually, the Hubble’s mirror was a “one off”. Which is to say that it was hand crafted and not part of a production run. Do you have any evidence that the people at Perkin-Elmer who worked on the Hubble also worked on KeyHole projects? That would be very unusual for classified personnel to be allowed to work on unclassified projects in the same field. Think of the security issues.
There was a wonderful write up a while back on the story of the mirror. It was considered groundbreaking and Perkin-Elmer received all sorts of accolades for taking technology further that it had ever been done before.
In standard lens/mirror grinding you use a blank almost the same size as the mirror and rub the two together to slowly form the shape. P-E took a very small blank and had a robot arm grind it just right. Each night they would carefully clean the mirror and measure the curvature with a laser. Bases on the results, the robot arm would be programed the next nay to remove just the bumps.
Once the shape was just the way the computer said it should be, they went back to a large blank to give it the final perfect polish.
And it ruined it. It gave it all sorts of new troughs and defects.
So they did something never done before (in the known civilian world). The did the entire process by the small blank and robot arm. This was the reverse of common knowledge. Everybody “knew” that you could not achieve large scale accuracy with a small blank. But the computer proved them wrong.
The final mirror was so incredibly accurate that if it were the size of the Gulf of Mexico, the largest defect would only be a quarter of an inch.
You can argue that the military had superior technology within the black projects, but that would not necessarily stop the civilian projects from re-inventing the processes independently. And it is not apparent that any of the Hubble technology was suppressed. So the military was sufficiently advanced that they could allow the civilians to move forward a bit more.
Read the story of any large project that is extending the bounds of technology and you will find failures and face palms at every turn. But these are overcome and you eventually succeed. Give me a story where everything goes according to schedule and I start smelling BS.
Since we are investigating the world of black projects and top secrets, we cannot expect much in the way of raw data. Only the occasional data point and the possible effects the secret stuff is having on the public world. We try to connect the dots and analyze the shadows of the things we cannot see. How do we find that “fingerprint” within the mundane patterns?
Motive is a strong argument. What would “they” have achieved by sabotaging the mirror? It made no difference what so ever on experiments which only required light gathering ability. It only made the pretty pictures a little blurry. And that was later corrected. So the only effect was temporary. What did “they” gain by that?
very interesting post!