I've been arguing for a long time that one of the world's "closet" nuclear powers is Germany, and my case has always consisted of the argument that Germany has all the infrastructure to build nuclear and thermonuclear weapons, and to do so rather quickly.

Now there's this report from Iran's PressTV:

Germany to keep and upgrade US nuclear bombs: Report

The fact that Iran's English language news service is reporting this story is, of course a message, and the message is: why all this concern about us, when the Germans are modifying anupgrading U.S. nukes?

Upgrading nuclear weapons implies the facilities to make them, and indeed I have reported elsewhere on this site of Germany's  role in helping build France's latest submarine-launched ICBM.

The reality is, Germany has probably been a closet nuclear power since the US VELA satellites detected what was apparently a South African nuclear test during the Carter Administration. As I have stated before, no self-respecting German government would allow that nation to be sandwiched in between the two nuclear superpowers without its own nuclear deterrent...it was the same rational behind General De Gaulle nuclear force de frappe, and the United Kingdom's own thermonuclear arsenal.

See you on the flip side.

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Joseph P. Farrell

Joseph P. Farrell has a doctorate in patristics from the University of Oxford, and pursues research in physics, alternative history and science, and "strange stuff". His book The Giza DeathStar, for which the Giza Community is named, was published in the spring of 2002, and was his first venture into "alternative history and science".


  1. MattB on September 12, 2012 at 1:50 am

    It didn’t take long for Japan to change its laws regarding overseas military deployment. Why would it be any stranger for Germany to change military and political doctrines?

    If the GsG9 can take one Andreas Strausmeir from America-doesn’t that tell you the real state of the German military/intelligence doctrine of action?

  2. JHM on September 9, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    Sir, i do have severe doubts about the reality of a german nuclear programme let alone the facilities to produce them. It would be an enormous, a gigantic task to keep that secret in this country, in my humble opinion there is no way this could be hidden from the public and the press for long by any german gouvernment. The mere idea that the United States have forced this country to accept nuclear weapons on it’s soil even after that pompous false “souvereignty” of 1991is an outrage to the majority of the people, alass, only a few openly protest at the supposed storage site of these alleged 10-20 bombs in the western Palatinate near the french border (in case the germans one day would come to silly ideas …). As far as i could find out in the recent press the modernization of those warheads will be done in the US, as usual, and the german part will be the of modernization of the fighter jets to be able to carry the modernized bombs.

    To have a german secret nuclear programme would require France to have fallen into a coma, Britain to have gotten mad, the United States to have left the planet, and this country to be independent, which it is not. It is a protectorate of the United States and it’s WWII-allies, controlled by nearly 70 years of brainwashing and gouvernments which will never consist of anyone capable of doing anything “silly”, gouvernments which would never ever dare to do anything serious against the combined will and might of the United States, Great Britain and France.

    There are no russian troops in Germany anymore. But there are still troops from the United States, France and Great Britain in this country. These troops are not bound to german laws, germans can only pass into the facilities with special papers, the personnel has their own license plates on their cars and so on.

    The current german army in it’s ridiculous state would not be able to keep 100 kilometers along the Rhine or the Odra for more than one day, let alone protect the country from an enemy in a war. That is a reality most people abroad tend to ignore due to the impression this country left in the world in WWII. The Bundeswehr abilities are quite limited, they are far overstretched only with the small presence in Bosnia and that in Afghanistan, which are both officially not even war missions, but “humanitarian operations abroad” due to the strict prohibition of offensive war in the german basic law, that is, german troops are officially not allowed to be part of anything even faintly smelling of “real” war outside the german borders, despite the reality in Afghanistan. There is little to no support for those current operations of the german army abroad in the public here, as is for the army at large, which keeps a very, very low profile in public compared to any other NATO country.

    As i said, living here, knowing what i know, of “official” and “inofficial” history and reality i would nonetheless doubt the idea of a secret german nuclear weapons programme. Far too many indicators speak against it.

    If you would come up with top secret german torsion field or energy weapons of some kind of higher physics of which even our dear protectors would know nothing about i would be more inclined to give that some credit, seriously, no offense meant here in any way.

    • Joseph P. Farrell on September 9, 2012 at 3:34 pm

      Who said it was all located in Germany?

    • LSM on September 10, 2012 at 4:03 am

      Hi JHM,

      “due to the strict prohibition of offensive war in the german basic law, that is, german troops are officially not allowed to be part of anything even faintly smelling of “real” war outside the german borders, despite the reality in Afghanistan”- the reality is Afghanistan so the “strict laws” can obviously be by-passed-

      do you really believe the German Govt. is more honest with us than the US Govt. is with Americans?- ich nicht- and it doesn’t matter which coloring book coalition is in power it’s being manipulated by the same machinations that manipulate any western govt.-

      and I know of at least one underground base in Germany, located near Calw/Schwarzwald- I have two co-workers from that area and both have confirmed its existence- both have said its so highly cordoned off your can’t even get near the place- so what is somebody hiding?-

      many regards-

      Larry- Freiburg/Br.

  3. HAL838 on September 9, 2012 at 11:08 am

    Korea doesn’t count as it flopped, didn’t it?

  4. HAL838 on September 9, 2012 at 11:07 am

    Unless THEY are ‘sitting’ 🙂 on them, there
    have been no tests since, I think

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